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Um, so I'm running one instance of APRSIS32, and have both IS and
Firenet ports defined. But the Firenet port doesn't have Transmit
enabled, nor any of the iGate check boxes (RF to IS or IS to RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via groups.io wrote:
Re: “Note that you should NOT connect an
IGate to firenet. “
My mind just isn’t what it used to be. You
just reminded me WHY I started running separate instances, one
for Amateur Radio APRS, on standard APRS tier 2 servers, and a
second instance for weather watching on firenet. You also
get weather advisories AND warnings on firenet.
I set this all up in 2016, so I think I
will copy parts of your message and put it in a file for
future reference. My mind just isn’t what it used to be, or
did I mention that already.
Mark
KE6BB
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will
o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing spaces.
This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet.
b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well as
the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only want the
strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly as informative),
just use o/SZ-*. This only works on firenet. The KJ4ERJ-15
for lightning data is obsolete and should be ignored.
Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. I've
been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not internally
flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT remember what
stations you've gated and therefore you will not receive
messages addressed to those stations nor courtesy posits from
the originators of those messages.
If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably come up
with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull off gating
nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF without actually
using firenet as the IGate connection, but given their update
frequency during a storm, I really don't think you'd ever want
to actually do this.
Lynn (D) -
KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 4/30/2020 4:52 PM, KE6BB via groups.io
wrote:
Thanks for the reminder, Fred. I had
forgotten about Lynns lightning server. I noticed that I
had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS in my filters which I changed to
b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it works! Now I remember that I used the
“-“ to turn the filter off without having to take it clear
out of the Configure menu. That keeps it handy so I can
turn lightning on or off without having to look it up.
I found an old message (#29727 dated
10/22/16 in groups.io) that says to, “…specify a filter of
b/KJ4ERJ-15 or o/LS*…”, but that may be old info. I haven’t
tried either of them recently:
https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727
Lynn does of great job of keeping me from
hanging out in bars all night 😜.
Mark,
KE6BB
I do almost
the same thing. I also display earthquakes and lightning!
Best regards,
Fred N7FMH
PS. Release
it! It is ready!
Yes! I've had 2 instances running most
of the day...One for "normal" APRS traffic (RF & IS),
and a second one for NWS traffic on firenet for weather
(tornado) watching. No problems so far.
I love the program! Thank
you.
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Date:
4/29/20 5:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject:
[APRSISCE] Ready for Release?
So, according to the second
("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing down. So
the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest
development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General release
since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
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Mark, KE6BB
Greg, I have done that in the past, and actually found that configuration on an old Windows 8 (upgraded to Win 10) tablet (Acer W8?) that I have used for years. I usually run that as an RF only instance since we don’t really need additional Igates here in southern California (they don’t hurt anything either), and it gives me a good view of the RF environment. I know, I can configure the scroller to see RF only, and the screen, etc., but I have found separate instances are simply easier for me to see and use. That old tablet is also fanless, and 3 of my last 4 computer failures were due to fan freeze-up. The tablet is too slow and “thermally challenged” for much of anything else, but APRSIS32 runs great on it. The dual instance of APRSIS32 is what I have settled on, and it works great. You only need one executable, but you create a shortcut for each instance using the .exe as the “Target” for both, and different “Start in” directories. Each instance saves its own aprsis32.xml in its own target directory. Works great. Mark, KE6BB Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Greg DSent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 03:58 PM To: APRSISCE@groups.ioSubject: Re: [APRSISCE] Lightning data Um, so I'm running one instance of APRSIS32, and have both IS and Firenet ports defined. But the Firenet port doesn't have Transmit enabled, nor any of the iGate check boxes (RF to IS or IS to RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Re: “Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. “ My mind just isn’t what it used to be. You just reminded me WHY I started running separate instances, one for Amateur Radio APRS, on standard APRS tier 2 servers, and a second instance for weather watching on firenet. You also get weather advisories AND warnings on firenet. I set this all up in 2016, so I think I will copy parts of your message and put it in a file for future reference. My mind just isn’t what it used to be, or did I mention that already. Mark KE6BB Sent from Mail for Windows 10 b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing spaces. This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet. b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well as the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only want the strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly as informative), just use o/SZ-*. This only works on firenet. The KJ4ERJ-15 for lightning data is obsolete and should be ignored. Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. I've been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not internally flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT remember what stations you've gated and therefore you will not receive messages addressed to those stations nor courtesy posits from the originators of those messages. If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably come up with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull off gating nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF without actually using firenet as the IGate connection, but given their update frequency during a storm, I really don't think you'd ever want to actually do this. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 4/30/2020 4:52 PM, KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Thanks for the reminder, Fred. I had forgotten about Lynns lightning server. I noticed that I had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS in my filters which I changed to b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it works! Now I remember that I used the “-“ to turn the filter off without having to take it clear out of the Configure menu. That keeps it handy so I can turn lightning on or off without having to look it up. I found an old message (#29727 dated 10/22/16 in groups.io) that says to, “…specify a filter of b/KJ4ERJ-15 or o/LS*…”, but that may be old info. I haven’t tried either of them recently: https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727 Lynn does of great job of keeping me from hanging out in bars all night 😜. Mark, KE6BB I do almost the same thing. I also display earthquakes and lightning! Best regards, Fred N7FMH PS. Release it! It is ready! Yes! I've had 2 instances running most of the day...One for "normal" APRS traffic (RF & IS), and a second one for NWS traffic on firenet for weather (tornado) watching. No problems so far. I love the program! Thank you. -------- Original message -------- Date: 4/29/20 5:38 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: [APRSISCE] Ready for Release? So, according to the second ("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing down. So the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General release since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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Just another hint, you know you can point both instances to a
single directory and they'll share tiles?
Even when I get MBTiles support finished in APRSIS32, multiple
instances will be able to concurrently share a tiles database.
Not so on Android or under MOAI, but APRSISCE/32 has the advantage
of invoking the SqLite C API natively.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 4/30/2020 7:59 PM, KE6BB via
groups.io wrote:
Greg,
I have done that in the past, and actually
found that configuration on an old Windows 8 (upgraded to Win
10) tablet (Acer W8?) that I have used for years. I usually
run that as an RF only instance since we don’t really need
additional Igates here in southern California (they don’t hurt
anything either), and it gives me a good view of the RF
environment. I know, I can configure the scroller to see RF
only, and the screen, etc., but I have found separate
instances are simply easier for me to see and use. That old
tablet is also fanless, and 3 of my last 4 computer failures
were due to fan freeze-up. The tablet is too slow and
“thermally challenged” for much of anything else, but APRSIS32
runs great on it.
The dual instance of APRSIS32 is what I
have settled on, and it works great. You only need one
executable, but you create a shortcut for each instance using
the .exe as the “Target” for both, and different “Start in”
directories. Each instance saves its own aprsis32.xml in its
own target directory. Works great.
Mark,
KE6BB
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Um, so I'm running one instance of
APRSIS32, and have both IS and Firenet ports defined. But
the Firenet port doesn't have Transmit enabled, nor any of
the iGate check boxes (RF to IS or IS to RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via
groups.io wrote:
Re: “Note that
you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. “
My mind just
isn’t what it used to be. You just reminded me WHY I
started running separate instances, one for Amateur Radio
APRS, on standard APRS tier 2 servers, and a second
instance for weather watching on firenet. You also get
weather advisories AND warnings on firenet.
I set this all
up in 2016, so I think I will copy parts of your message
and put it in a file for future reference. My mind just
isn’t what it used to be, or did I mention that already.
Mark
KE6BB
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will
o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing
spaces. This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet.
b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well as
the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only want the
strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly as
informative), just use o/SZ-*. This only works on firenet.
The KJ4ERJ-15 for lightning data is obsolete and should be
ignored.
Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. I've
been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not internally
flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT remember what
stations you've gated and therefore you will not receive
messages addressed to those stations nor courtesy posits
from the originators of those messages.
If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably come up
with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull off gating
nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF without
actually using firenet as the IGate connection, but given
their update frequency during a storm, I really don't think
you'd ever want to actually do this.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of
APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 4/30/2020
4:52 PM, KE6BB via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for
the reminder, Fred. I had forgotten about Lynns
lightning server. I noticed that I had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS in
my filters which I changed to b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it works!
Now I remember that I used the “-“ to turn the filter
off without having to take it clear out of the Configure
menu. That keeps it handy so I can turn lightning on or
off without having to look it up.
I found an
old message (#29727 dated 10/22/16 in groups.io) that
says to, “…specify a filter of b/KJ4ERJ-15 or o/LS*…”,
but that may be old info. I haven’t tried either of
them recently:
https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727
Lynn does of
great job of keeping me from hanging out in bars all
night 😜.
Mark,
KE6BB
I do almost
the same thing. I also display earthquakes and
lightning!
Best
regards,
Fred N7FMH
PS. Release
it! It is ready!
Yes! I've had 2 instances
running most of the day...One for "normal" APRS traffic
(RF & IS), and a second one for NWS traffic on
firenet for weather (tornado) watching. No problems so
far.
I love the program!
Thank you.
--------
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Date: 4/29/20
5:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject:
[APRSISCE] Ready for Release?
So, according to the
second ("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing down.
So the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest
development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General
release since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
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Mobile and Win32
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Sure. But bottom line, using two instances only gives a cosmetic
separation of the screen's data, no effect on the traffic or
functionality.
That's what I was thinking. One instance is less CPU and RAM
consumed, but gives only a single filter to the screen data at a
time.
Greg KO6TH
Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:
Just another hint, you know you can point both instances to a
single directory and they'll share tiles?
Even when I get MBTiles support finished in APRSIS32, multiple
instances will be able to concurrently share a tiles database.
Not so on Android or under MOAI, but APRSISCE/32 has the
advantage of invoking the SqLite C API natively.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 4/30/2020 7:59 PM, KE6BB via
groups.io wrote:
Greg,
I have done that in the past, and
actually found that configuration on an old Windows 8
(upgraded to Win 10) tablet (Acer W8?) that I have used for
years. I usually run that as an RF only instance since we
don’t really need additional Igates here in southern
California (they don’t hurt anything either), and it gives
me a good view of the RF environment. I know, I can
configure the scroller to see RF only, and the screen, etc.,
but I have found separate instances are simply easier for me
to see and use. That old tablet is also fanless, and 3 of
my last 4 computer failures were due to fan freeze-up. The
tablet is too slow and “thermally challenged” for much of
anything else, but APRSIS32 runs great on it.
The dual instance of APRSIS32 is what I
have settled on, and it works great. You only need one
executable, but you create a shortcut for each instance
using the .exe as the “Target” for both, and different
“Start in” directories. Each instance saves its own
aprsis32.xml in its own target directory. Works great.
Mark,
KE6BB
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Um, so I'm running one instance of
APRSIS32, and have both IS and Firenet ports defined. But
the Firenet port doesn't have Transmit enabled, nor any of
the iGate check boxes (RF to IS or IS to RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via
groups.io wrote:
Re: “Note
that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. “
My mind just
isn’t what it used to be. You just reminded me WHY I
started running separate instances, one for Amateur
Radio APRS, on standard APRS tier 2 servers, and a
second instance for weather watching on firenet. You
also get weather advisories AND warnings on firenet.
I set this
all up in 2016, so I think I will copy parts of your
message and put it in a file for future reference. My
mind just isn’t what it used to be, or did I mention
that already.
Mark
KE6BB
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will
o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing
spaces. This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet.
b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well
as the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only want
the strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly as
informative), just use o/SZ-*. This only works on
firenet. The KJ4ERJ-15 for lightning data is obsolete and
should be ignored.
Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet.
I've been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not
internally flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT
remember what stations you've gated and therefore you will
not receive messages addressed to those stations nor
courtesy posits from the originators of those messages.
If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably come
up with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull off
gating nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF
without actually using firenet as the IGate connection,
but given their update frequency during a storm, I really
don't think you'd ever want to actually do this.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of
APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On
4/30/2020 4:52 PM, KE6BB via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for
the reminder, Fred. I had forgotten about Lynns
lightning server. I noticed that I had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS
in my filters which I changed to b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it
works! Now I remember that I used the “-“ to turn the
filter off without having to take it clear out of the
Configure menu. That keeps it handy so I can turn
lightning on or off without having to look it up.
I found an
old message (#29727 dated 10/22/16 in groups.io) that
says to, “…specify a filter of b/KJ4ERJ-15 or o/LS*…”,
but that may be old info. I haven’t tried either of
them recently:
https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727
Lynn does
of great job of keeping me from hanging out in bars
all night 😜.
Mark,
KE6BB
I do
almost the same thing. I also display earthquakes and
lightning!
Best
regards,
Fred
N7FMH
PS.
Release it! It is ready!
Yes! I've had 2
instances running most of the day...One for "normal"
APRS traffic (RF & IS), and a second one for NWS
traffic on firenet for weather (tornado) watching. No
problems so far.
I love the program!
Thank you.
--------
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Date: 4/29/20
5:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject:
[APRSISCE] Ready for Release?
So, according to the
second ("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing
down. So the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest
development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General
release since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
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Mobile and Win32
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Mark, KE6BB
Yes! I have been doing that for some time. Good to know that MBTiles can also be shared. I am looking forward to using them. BTW, this dual instance all started because I wanted easy APRS only viewing at times, and easy weather watching other times without a lot of reconfiguring in going back and forth. You were working with others on HF/VHF instances, so I thought, “Why not give it a try!” It just stuck. Once I implemented shared tiles, which took a lot of careful XML file editing, the resources to run 2 instances dropped dramatically. Tnx. Mark KE6BB Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Lynn DeffenbaughSent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 05:55 PM To: APRSISCE@groups.ioSubject: Re: [APRSISCE] Lightning data Just another hint, you know you can point both instances to a single directory and they'll share tiles? Even when I get MBTiles support finished in APRSIS32, multiple instances will be able to concurrently share a tiles database. Not so on Android or under MOAI, but APRSISCE/32 has the advantage of invoking the SqLite C API natively. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 4/30/2020 7:59 PM, KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Greg, I have done that in the past, and actually found that configuration on an old Windows 8 (upgraded to Win 10) tablet (Acer W8?) that I have used for years. I usually run that as an RF only instance since we don’t really need additional Igates here in southern California (they don’t hurt anything either), and it gives me a good view of the RF environment. I know, I can configure the scroller to see RF only, and the screen, etc., but I have found separate instances are simply easier for me to see and use. That old tablet is also fanless, and 3 of my last 4 computer failures were due to fan freeze-up. The tablet is too slow and “thermally challenged” for much of anything else, but APRSIS32 runs great on it. The dual instance of APRSIS32 is what I have settled on, and it works great. You only need one executable, but you create a shortcut for each instance using the .exe as the “Target” for both, and different “Start in” directories. Each instance saves its own aprsis32.xml in its own target directory. Works great. Mark, KE6BB Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Um, so I'm running one instance of APRSIS32, and have both IS and Firenet ports defined. But the Firenet port doesn't have Transmit enabled, nor any of the iGate check boxes (RF to IS or IS to RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Re: “Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. “ My mind just isn’t what it used to be. You just reminded me WHY I started running separate instances, one for Amateur Radio APRS, on standard APRS tier 2 servers, and a second instance for weather watching on firenet. You also get weather advisories AND warnings on firenet. I set this all up in 2016, so I think I will copy parts of your message and put it in a file for future reference. My mind just isn’t what it used to be, or did I mention that already. Mark KE6BB Sent from Mail for Windows 10 b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing spaces. This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet. b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well as the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only want the strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly as informative), just use o/SZ-*. This only works on firenet. The KJ4ERJ-15 for lightning data is obsolete and should be ignored. Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. I've been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not internally flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT remember what stations you've gated and therefore you will not receive messages addressed to those stations nor courtesy posits from the originators of those messages. If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably come up with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull off gating nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF without actually using firenet as the IGate connection, but given their update frequency during a storm, I really don't think you'd ever want to actually do this. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 4/30/2020 4:52 PM, KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Thanks for the reminder, Fred. I had forgotten about Lynns lightning server. I noticed that I had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS in my filters which I changed to b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it works! Now I remember that I used the “-“ to turn the filter off without having to take it clear out of the Configure menu. That keeps it handy so I can turn lightning on or off without having to look it up. I found an old message (#29727 dated 10/22/16 in groups.io) that says to, “…specify a filter of b/KJ4ERJ-15 or o/LS*…”, but that may be old info. I haven’t tried either of them recently: https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727 Lynn does of great job of keeping me from hanging out in bars all night 😜. Mark, KE6BB I do almost the same thing. I also display earthquakes and lightning! Best regards, Fred N7FMH PS. Release it! It is ready! Yes! I've had 2 instances running most of the day...One for "normal" APRS traffic (RF & IS), and a second one for NWS traffic on firenet for weather (tornado) watching. No problems so far. I love the program! Thank you. -------- Original message -------- Date: 4/29/20 5:38 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: [APRSISCE] Ready for Release? So, according to the second ("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing down. So the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General release since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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Greg, Yes, I understand the bottom line, but CPU and RAM are really inexpensive these days. The way I am set up, I can use any computer in the house for APRS and/or for RF. Any combination I want without reconfiguration within the program. Sadly, I have too many computers. I just enabled the firenet port on my tablet, I think it is in the configuration you are suggesting. In the scroller, I am seeing a lot of stations scrolling by that are not RF. I tried configuring the scroller to view RF only, and it helped, but it appeared only partially effective. Those stations may be from firenet since I have IS disabled. I will work with it some more, and also try to filter non-rf at the IS server, but since the firenet port is not my IS port, I’m not sure how to apply them. I think filters applied by the configuration menu are applied to the APRS-IS port only. I will work on it more tomorrow. Regards. Mark, KE6BB Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Greg DSent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 06:06 PM To: APRSISCE@groups.ioSubject: Re: [APRSISCE] Lightning data Sure. But bottom line, using two instances only gives a cosmetic separation of the screen's data, no effect on the traffic or functionality.
That's what I was thinking. One instance is less CPU and RAM consumed, but gives only a single filter to the screen data at a time.
Greg KO6TH
Just another hint, you know you can point both instances to a single directory and they'll share tiles? Even when I get MBTiles support finished in APRSIS32, multiple instances will be able to concurrently share a tiles database. Not so on Android or under MOAI, but APRSISCE/32 has the advantage of invoking the SqLite C API natively. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 4/30/2020 7:59 PM, KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Greg, I have done that in the past, and actually found that configuration on an old Windows 8 (upgraded to Win 10) tablet (Acer W8?) that I have used for years. I usually run that as an RF only instance since we don’t really need additional Igates here in southern California (they don’t hurt anything either), and it gives me a good view of the RF environment. I know, I can configure the scroller to see RF only, and the screen, etc., but I have found separate instances are simply easier for me to see and use. That old tablet is also fanless, and 3 of my last 4 computer failures were due to fan freeze-up. The tablet is too slow and “thermally challenged” for much of anything else, but APRSIS32 runs great on it. The dual instance of APRSIS32 is what I have settled on, and it works great. You only need one executable, but you create a shortcut for each instance using the .exe as the “Target” for both, and different “Start in” directories. Each instance saves its own aprsis32.xml in its own target directory. Works great. Mark, KE6BB Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Um, so I'm running one instance of APRSIS32, and have both IS and Firenet ports defined. But the Firenet port doesn't have Transmit enabled, nor any of the iGate check boxes (RF to IS or IS to RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Re: “Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. “ My mind just isn’t what it used to be. You just reminded me WHY I started running separate instances, one for Amateur Radio APRS, on standard APRS tier 2 servers, and a second instance for weather watching on firenet. You also get weather advisories AND warnings on firenet. I set this all up in 2016, so I think I will copy parts of your message and put it in a file for future reference. My mind just isn’t what it used to be, or did I mention that already. Mark KE6BB Sent from Mail for Windows 10 b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing spaces. This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet. b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well as the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only want the strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly as informative), just use o/SZ-*. This only works on firenet. The KJ4ERJ-15 for lightning data is obsolete and should be ignored. Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. I've been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not internally flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT remember what stations you've gated and therefore you will not receive messages addressed to those stations nor courtesy posits from the originators of those messages. If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably come up with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull off gating nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF without actually using firenet as the IGate connection, but given their update frequency during a storm, I really don't think you'd ever want to actually do this. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 4/30/2020 4:52 PM, KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Thanks for the reminder, Fred. I had forgotten about Lynns lightning server. I noticed that I had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS in my filters which I changed to b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it works! Now I remember that I used the “-“ to turn the filter off without having to take it clear out of the Configure menu. That keeps it handy so I can turn lightning on or off without having to look it up. I found an old message (#29727 dated 10/22/16 in groups.io) that says to, “…specify a filter of b/KJ4ERJ-15 or o/LS*…”, but that may be old info. I haven’t tried either of them recently: https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727 Lynn does of great job of keeping me from hanging out in bars all night 😜. Mark, KE6BB I do almost the same thing. I also display earthquakes and lightning! Best regards, Fred N7FMH PS. Release it! It is ready! Yes! I've had 2 instances running most of the day...One for "normal" APRS traffic (RF & IS), and a second one for NWS traffic on firenet for weather (tornado) watching. No problems so far. I love the program! Thank you. -------- Original message -------- Date: 4/29/20 5:38 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: [APRSISCE] Ready for Release? So, according to the second ("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing down. So the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General release since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
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Sounds good, Mark. There are lots of tradeoffs and customization
opportunities, depending on one's circumstances.
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via groups.io wrote:
Greg,
Yes, I understand the bottom line, but CPU
and RAM are really inexpensive these days. The way I am set
up, I can use any computer in the house for APRS and/or for
RF. Any combination I want without reconfiguration within the
program. Sadly, I have too many computers.
I just enabled the firenet port on my
tablet, I think it is in the configuration you are
suggesting. In the scroller, I am seeing a lot of stations
scrolling by that are not RF. I tried configuring the
scroller to view RF only, and it helped, but it appeared only
partially effective. Those stations may be from firenet since
I have IS disabled. I will work with it some more, and also
try to filter non-rf at the IS server, but since the firenet
port is not my IS port, I’m not sure how to apply them. I
think filters applied by the configuration menu are applied to
the APRS-IS port only.
I will work on it more tomorrow.
Regards.
Mark,
KE6BB
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Sure. But
bottom line, using two instances only gives a cosmetic
separation of the screen's data, no effect on the traffic or
functionality.
That's what I was thinking. One instance is less CPU and RAM
consumed, but gives only a single filter to the screen data at
a time.
Greg KO6TH
Just another hint, you know you can point both instances to
a single directory and they'll share tiles?
Even when I get MBTiles support finished in APRSIS32,
multiple instances will be able to concurrently share a
tiles database. Not so on Android or under MOAI, but
APRSISCE/32 has the advantage of invoking the SqLite C API
natively.
Lynn (D) -
KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 4/30/2020 7:59 PM, KE6BB via
groups.io wrote:
Greg,
I have done that in the past, and
actually found that configuration on an old Windows 8
(upgraded to Win 10) tablet (Acer W8?) that I have used
for years. I usually run that as an RF only instance
since we don’t really need additional Igates here in
southern California (they don’t hurt anything either), and
it gives me a good view of the RF environment. I know, I
can configure the scroller to see RF only, and the screen,
etc., but I have found separate instances are simply
easier for me to see and use. That old tablet is also
fanless, and 3 of my last 4 computer failures were due to
fan freeze-up. The tablet is too slow and “thermally
challenged” for much of anything else, but APRSIS32 runs
great on it.
The dual instance of APRSIS32 is what I
have settled on, and it works great. You only need one
executable, but you create a shortcut for each instance
using the .exe as the “Target” for both, and different
“Start in” directories. Each instance saves its own
aprsis32.xml in its own target directory. Works great.
Mark,
KE6BB
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Um, so I'm running one instance of
APRSIS32, and have both IS and Firenet ports defined.
But the Firenet port doesn't have Transmit enabled, nor
any of the iGate check boxes (RF to IS or IS to RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via
groups.io wrote:
Re: “Note
that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. “
My mind
just isn’t what it used to be. You just reminded me
WHY I started running separate instances, one for
Amateur Radio APRS, on standard APRS tier 2 servers,
and a second instance for weather watching on
firenet. You also get weather advisories AND warnings
on firenet.
I set this
all up in 2016, so I think I will copy parts of your
message and put it in a file for future reference. My
mind just isn’t what it used to be, or did I mention
that already.
Mark
KE6BB
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will
o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing
spaces. This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet.
b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well
as the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only
want the strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly
as informative), just use o/SZ-*. This only works on
firenet. The KJ4ERJ-15 for lightning data is obsolete
and should be ignored.
Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet.
I've been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not
internally flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT
remember what stations you've gated and therefore you
will not receive messages addressed to those stations
nor courtesy posits from the originators of those
messages.
If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably
come up with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull
off gating nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF
without actually using firenet as the IGate connection,
but given their update frequency during a storm, I
really don't think you'd ever want to actually do this.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of
APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On
4/30/2020 4:52 PM, KE6BB via groups.io wrote:
Thanks
for the reminder, Fred. I had forgotten about Lynns
lightning server. I noticed that I had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS
in my filters which I changed to b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it
works! Now I remember that I used the “-“ to turn
the filter off without having to take it clear out
of the Configure menu. That keeps it handy so I can
turn lightning on or off without having to look it
up.
I found
an old message (#29727 dated 10/22/16 in groups.io)
that says to, “…specify a filter of b/KJ4ERJ-15 or
o/LS*…”, but that may be old info. I haven’t tried
either of them recently:
https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727
Lynn does
of great job of keeping me from hanging out in bars
all night 😜.
Mark,
KE6BB
I do
almost the same thing. I also display earthquakes
and lightning!
Best
regards,
Fred
N7FMH
PS.
Release it! It is ready!
Yes!
I've had 2 instances running most of the day...One
for "normal" APRS traffic (RF & IS), and a
second one for NWS traffic on firenet for weather
(tornado) watching. No problems so far.
I
love the program! Thank you.
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Date:
4/29/20 5:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject:
[APRSISCE] Ready for Release?
So, according to the second
("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing
down. So the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest
development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General
release since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows
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Hi Greg, I never thought to have two internet ports. I run two instances so I can see different groups of data. I display earthquakes, NWS, lightning, and a few other odds and ends, on my firenet instance. I display the typical items on my APRS-IS port instance. Each instance has different filter settings. Best regards, Fred N7FMH
From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg D
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:59 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Lightning data Um, so I'm running one instance of APRSIS32, and have both IS and Firenet ports defined. But the Firenet port doesn't have Transmit enabled, nor any of the iGate check boxes (RF to IS or IS to RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Re: “Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. “ My mind just isn’t what it used to be. You just reminded me WHY I started running separate instances, one for Amateur Radio APRS, on standard APRS tier 2 servers, and a second instance for weather watching on firenet. You also get weather advisories AND warnings on firenet. I set this all up in 2016, so I think I will copy parts of your message and put it in a file for future reference. My mind just isn’t what it used to be, or did I mention that already. Mark KE6BB Sent from Mail for Windows 10 b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing spaces. This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet. b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well as the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only want the strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly as informative), just use o/SZ-*. This only works on firenet. The KJ4ERJ-15 for lightning data is obsolete and should be ignored. Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. I've been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not internally flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT remember what stations you've gated and therefore you will not receive messages addressed to those stations nor courtesy posits from the originators of those messages. If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably come up with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull off gating nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF without actually using firenet as the IGate connection, but given their update frequency during a storm, I really don't think you'd ever want to actually do this. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 4/30/2020 4:52 PM, KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Thanks for the reminder, Fred. I had forgotten about Lynns lightning server. I noticed that I had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS in my filters which I changed to b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it works! Now I remember that I used the “-“ to turn the filter off without having to take it clear out of the Configure menu. That keeps it handy so I can turn lightning on or off without having to look it up. I found an old message (#29727 dated 10/22/16 in groups.io) that says to, “…specify a filter of b/KJ4ERJ-15 or o/LS*…”, but that may be old info. I haven’t tried either of them recently: https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727 Lynn does of great job of keeping me from hanging out in bars all night 😜. Mark, KE6BB I do almost the same thing. I also display earthquakes and lightning! Best regards, Fred N7FMH PS. Release it! It is ready! Yes! I've had 2 instances running most of the day...One for "normal" APRS traffic (RF & IS), and a second one for NWS traffic on firenet for weather (tornado) watching. No problems so far. I love the program! Thank you. -------- Original message -------- Date: 4/29/20 5:38 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: [APRSISCE] Ready for Release? So, according to the second ("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing down. So the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General release since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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As long as the APRS-IS port is connected to the mainstream
network and the additional port is connected to firenet, you
should be OK from an IGate perspective. IGating recption only
transmits on the APRS-IS port (plus any local server ports you may
be running).
The same filter is sent to both ports, IIRC. I'm not completely
certain of that because my extra ports are all connected to port
10152 for a full feed.
I do know that the CWOP servers don't do any filtering on any
port, so if you connect there, be ready for a flood of blue
stations!
But if you want different filters, then you definitely need to
run two instances.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 5/1/2020 9:40 AM, Fred Hillhouse
wrote:
Hi Greg,
I never thought
to have two internet ports. I run two instances so I can see
different groups of data. I display earthquakes, NWS,
lightning, and a few other odds and ends, on my firenet
instance. I display the typical items on my APRS-IS port
instance. Each instance has different filter settings.
Best regards,
Fred N7FMH
Um, so I'm
running one instance of APRSIS32, and have both IS and Firenet
ports defined. But the Firenet port doesn't have Transmit
enabled, nor any of the iGate check boxes (RF to IS or IS to
RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via groups.io wrote:
Re: “Note that you should NOT connect an
IGate to firenet. “
My mind just isn’t what it used to be.
You just reminded me WHY I started running separate
instances, one for Amateur Radio APRS, on standard APRS tier
2 servers, and a second instance for weather watching on
firenet. You also get weather advisories AND warnings on
firenet.
I set this all up in 2016, so I think I
will copy parts of your message and put it in a file for
future reference. My mind just isn’t what it used to be, or
did I mention that already.
Mark
KE6BB
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will
o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing
spaces. This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet.
b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well as
the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only want the
strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly as
informative), just use o/SZ-*. This only works on firenet.
The KJ4ERJ-15 for lightning data is obsolete and should be
ignored.
Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. I've
been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not internally
flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT remember what
stations you've gated and therefore you will not receive
messages addressed to those stations nor courtesy posits
from the originators of those messages.
If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably come up
with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull off gating
nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF without
actually using firenet as the IGate connection, but given
their update frequency during a storm, I really don't think
you'd ever want to actually do this.
Lynn (D) -
KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 4/30/2020 4:52 PM, KE6BB via
groups.io wrote:
Thanks for the reminder, Fred. I had
forgotten about Lynns lightning server. I noticed that I
had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS in my filters which I changed to
b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it works! Now I remember that I used the
“-“ to turn the filter off without having to take it clear
out of the Configure menu. That keeps it handy so I can
turn lightning on or off without having to look it up.
I found an old message (#29727 dated
10/22/16 in groups.io) that says to, “…specify a filter of
b/KJ4ERJ-15 or o/LS*…”, but that may be old info. I
haven’t tried either of them recently:
https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727
Lynn does of great job of keeping me
from hanging out in bars all night 😜.
Mark,
KE6BB
I do almost
the same thing. I also display earthquakes and
lightning!
Best
regards,
Fred N7FMH
PS. Release
it! It is ready!
Yes! I've had 2 instances
running most of the day...One for "normal" APRS traffic
(RF & IS), and a second one for NWS traffic on
firenet for weather (tornado) watching. No problems so
far.
I love the program!
Thank you.
--------
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Date:
4/29/20 5:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject:
[APRSISCE] Ready for Release?
So, according to the
second ("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing down.
So the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest
development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General
release since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
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I can understand Greg’s usage. If mobile with a single display, it is useful to see the local traffic and some data that only exists on Firenet. How many vehicles have room for more than one display? Sitting at home, multiple instances are easy and maybe the most convenient. Best regards, Fred N7FMH
From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 10:36 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Lightning data As long as the APRS-IS port is connected to the mainstream network and the additional port is connected to firenet, you should be OK from an IGate perspective. IGating recption only transmits on the APRS-IS port (plus any local server ports you may be running). The same filter is sent to both ports, IIRC. I'm not completely certain of that because my extra ports are all connected to port 10152 for a full feed. I do know that the CWOP servers don't do any filtering on any port, so if you connect there, be ready for a flood of blue stations! But if you want different filters, then you definitely need to run two instances. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 5/1/2020 9:40 AM, Fred Hillhouse wrote: Hi Greg, I never thought to have two internet ports. I run two instances so I can see different groups of data. I display earthquakes, NWS, lightning, and a few other odds and ends, on my firenet instance. I display the typical items on my APRS-IS port instance. Each instance has different filter settings. Best regards, Fred N7FMH Um, so I'm running one instance of APRSIS32, and have both IS and Firenet ports defined. But the Firenet port doesn't have Transmit enabled, nor any of the iGate check boxes (RF to IS or IS to RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Re: “Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. “ My mind just isn’t what it used to be. You just reminded me WHY I started running separate instances, one for Amateur Radio APRS, on standard APRS tier 2 servers, and a second instance for weather watching on firenet. You also get weather advisories AND warnings on firenet. I set this all up in 2016, so I think I will copy parts of your message and put it in a file for future reference. My mind just isn’t what it used to be, or did I mention that already. Mark KE6BB Sent from Mail for Windows 10 b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing spaces. This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet. b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well as the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only want the strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly as informative), just use o/SZ-*. This only works on firenet. The KJ4ERJ-15 for lightning data is obsolete and should be ignored. Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet. I've been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not internally flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT remember what stations you've gated and therefore you will not receive messages addressed to those stations nor courtesy posits from the originators of those messages. If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably come up with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull off gating nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF without actually using firenet as the IGate connection, but given their update frequency during a storm, I really don't think you'd ever want to actually do this. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 4/30/2020 4:52 PM, KE6BB via groups.io wrote: Thanks for the reminder, Fred. I had forgotten about Lynns lightning server. I noticed that I had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS in my filters which I changed to b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it works! Now I remember that I used the “-“ to turn the filter off without having to take it clear out of the Configure menu. That keeps it handy so I can turn lightning on or off without having to look it up. I found an old message (#29727 dated 10/22/16 in groups.io) that says to, “…specify a filter of b/KJ4ERJ-15 or o/LS*…”, but that may be old info. I haven’t tried either of them recently: https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727 Lynn does of great job of keeping me from hanging out in bars all night 😜. Mark, KE6BB I do almost the same thing. I also display earthquakes and lightning! Best regards, Fred N7FMH PS. Release it! It is ready! Yes! I've had 2 instances running most of the day...One for "normal" APRS traffic (RF & IS), and a second one for NWS traffic on firenet for weather (tornado) watching. No problems so far. I love the program! Thank you. -------- Original message -------- Date: 4/29/20 5:38 PM (GMT-08:00) Subject: [APRSISCE] Ready for Release? So, according to the second ("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing down. So the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General release since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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Actually, this is on my home system. I'm running Linux on it, with
4 Desktops. One is dedicated to APRSIS32, full-screen (such as a
22" inch display is these days). The others are for various other
themes (email, etc.). I still find it easiest to just have the one
instance running.
To Lynn's thought about separate filters, I hadn't considered that,
but it seems to work out ok. I'm not finding a lot of stuff on the
screen that I would want to partition out into separate instances.
I think all I have as a filter is s//Q (earthquakes), which is a
constant source of entertainment out here in California. That only
applies to Firenet, and sources nothing from APRSIS.
As for the Mobile, I'm running YAAC there. It's got a better format
for the small VGA in-dash display (shared with the backup camera),
and it runs on the Raspberry Pi that I have connected to the radio.
The cell phone, if it's doing APRS, tends to run APRSDroid, or I
just get lazy and share my position with the family through Google
Maps if I'm on my way there.
Greg KO6TH
Fred Hillhouse wrote:
I can
understand Greg’s usage. If mobile with a single display, it
is useful to see the local traffic and some data that only
exists on Firenet. How many vehicles have room for more than
one display?
Sitting at
home, multiple instances are easy and maybe the most
convenient.
Best regards,
Fred N7FMH
As long as the APRS-IS port is connected to the mainstream
network and the additional port is connected to firenet, you
should be OK from an IGate perspective. IGating recption only
transmits on the APRS-IS port (plus any local server ports you
may be running).
The same filter is sent to both ports, IIRC. I'm not
completely certain of that because my extra ports are all
connected to port 10152 for a full feed.
I do know that the CWOP servers don't do any filtering on any
port, so if you connect there, be ready for a flood of blue
stations!
But if you want different filters, then you definitely need
to run two instances.
Lynn (D) -
KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 5/1/2020 9:40 AM, Fred Hillhouse
wrote:
Hi Greg,
I never
thought to have two internet ports. I run two instances so
I can see different groups of data. I display earthquakes,
NWS, lightning, and a few other odds and ends, on my
firenet instance. I display the typical items on my
APRS-IS port instance. Each instance has different filter
settings.
Best regards,
Fred N7FMH
Um, so I'm
running one instance of APRSIS32, and have both IS and
Firenet ports defined. But the Firenet port doesn't have
Transmit enabled, nor any of the iGate check boxes (RF to IS
or IS to RF).
Isn't that effectively the same, but all on one screen?
Greg KO6TH
KE6BB via groups.io wrote:
Re: “Note that you should NOT connect
an IGate to firenet. “
My mind just isn’t what it used to be.
You just reminded me WHY I started running separate
instances, one for Amateur Radio APRS, on standard APRS
tier 2 servers, and a second instance for weather watching
on firenet. You also get weather advisories AND warnings
on firenet.
I set this all up in 2016, so I think I
will copy parts of your message and put it in a file for
future reference. My mind just isn’t what it used to be,
or did I mention that already.
Mark
KE6BB
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
b/KJ4ERJ-15 will get you my flying satellites as will
o/ISS*/PSAT* (the * is required as they have trailing
spaces. This should work on both APRS-IS and firenet.
b/KJ4ERJ-LS will get you the individual strikes as well
as the strike zones as well o/LS-*/SZ-*. If you only want
the strike zones (a lot fewer objects, but nearly as
informative), just use o/SZ-*. This only works on
firenet. The KJ4ERJ-15 for lightning data is obsolete and
should be ignored.
Note that you should NOT connect an IGate to firenet.
I've been told that firenet's 14580 ports are not
internally flagged as "IGate" ports, so they will NOT
remember what stations you've gated and therefore you will
not receive messages addressed to those stations nor
courtesy posits from the originators of those messages.
If I thought about it hard enough, I could probably come
up with a combination of APRSIS32 instances to pull off
gating nearby strikezone objects from the -IS to RF
without actually using firenet as the IGate connection,
but given their update frequency during a storm, I really
don't think you'd ever want to actually do this.
Lynn (D)
- KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and
Win32
On 4/30/2020 4:52 PM, KE6BB via
groups.io wrote:
Thanks for the reminder, Fred. I had
forgotten about Lynns lightning server. I noticed that
I had -b/KJ4ERJ-LS in my filters which I changed to
b/KJ4ERJ-LS, and it works! Now I remember that I used
the “-“ to turn the filter off without having to take it
clear out of the Configure menu. That keeps it handy so
I can turn lightning on or off without having to look it
up.
I found an old message (#29727 dated
10/22/16 in groups.io) that says to, “…specify a filter
of b/KJ4ERJ-15 or o/LS*…”, but that may be old info. I
haven’t tried either of them recently:
https://groups.io/g/APRSISCE/message/29727
Lynn does of great job of keeping me
from hanging out in bars all night 😜.
Mark,
KE6BB
I do
almost the same thing. I also display earthquakes and
lightning!
Best
regards,
Fred
N7FMH
PS.
Release it! It is ready!
Yes! I've had 2
instances running most of the day...One for "normal"
APRS traffic (RF & IS), and a second one for NWS
traffic on firenet for weather (tornado) watching. No
problems so far.
I love the
program! Thank you.
--------
Original message --------
Date:
4/29/20 5:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject:
[APRSISCE] Ready for Release?
So, according
to the second ("Upgrades") telemetry graph for KJ4ERJ
at
aprs.fi, it appears that the upgrades are slowing
down. So the $20,000
question is: For those of you running the latest
development release,
is it ready to be pushed out as the first General
release since 2012?
https://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/KJ4ERJ?range=week
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows
Mobile and Win32
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