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Other type Packets


Don Woodward
 

Totally new to APRS - I setup an iGATE with APRIS and a TT4 and am receiving a number of packets, but I believe I saw that only position packets will get gated to IS?  I am seeing the position packets nearby get sent to IS and show up on my "stations heard direct" in aprs.fi.

How can I look at the other packets and see what king of packets they are and if they are position packets why they are not being sent to IS?

TIA & 73,

Don W.
KD4APP



Don Woodward
 

He's some of the RAW packets on aprs.fi from my IGATE

2020-04-28 12:51:28 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:>281651zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 13:20:58 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:@172100h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 13:21:29 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=8,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=8,DX=4*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 13:21:29 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:>281721zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 13:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@172332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 13:51:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281751zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 13:53:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@175332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 14:21:31 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=13,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=14,DX=10*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 14:21:31 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281821zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 14:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@182332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 14:51:32 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281851zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 14:53:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@185332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 15:21:33 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=12,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=13,DX=16*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 15:21:33 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281921zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 15:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@192332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 15:51:34 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281951zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 15:53:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@195332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 16:21:34 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=14,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=14,DX=22*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 16:21:34 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>282021zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 16:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@202332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 16:51:35 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>282051zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 16:53:29 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@205331h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate


From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Don Woodward via groups.io <dbwoodw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:34 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: [APRSISCE] Other type Packets
 
Totally new to APRS - I setup an iGATE with APRIS and a TT4 and am receiving a number of packets, but I believe I saw that only position packets will get gated to IS?  I am seeing the position packets nearby get sent to IS and show up on my "stations heard direct" in aprs.fi.

How can I look at the other packets and see what king of packets they are and if they are position packets why they are not being sent to IS?

TIA & 73,

Don W.
KD4APP



Rob Giuliano
 

APRSISce/32 has a large array of logging options.
You can view the log from >Menu >Enables >Logging and view the interfaces you would like to review.
I find it most useful to have the log files open and minimuized, the check:
  IGateEnabled
  Port(APRS-IS)
  Port({your RF port name}) 

Between those, you should get a pretty good picture of what is going where.

Lynn might have some addition things to view.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 4:34:53 PM EDT, Don Woodward <dbwoodw@...> wrote:


Totally new to APRS - I setup an iGATE with APRIS and a TT4 and am receiving a number of packets, but I believe I saw that only position packets will get gated to IS?  I am seeing the position packets nearby get sent to IS and show up on my "stations heard direct" in aprs.fi.

How can I look at the other packets and see what king of packets they are and if they are position packets why they are not being sent to IS?

TIA & 73,

Don W.
KD4APP



Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

APRSIS32 will pass all received packets to the APRS-IS unless you've tweaked the default configuration.


Look for and enable any/all IGate* trace logs and you'll see the packets in one of them.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 4/28/2020 4:34 PM, Don Woodward wrote:
Totally new to APRS - I setup an iGATE with APRIS and a TT4 and am receiving a number of packets, but I believe I saw that only position packets will get gated to IS?  I am seeing the position packets nearby get sent to IS and show up on my "stations heard direct" in aprs.fi.

How can I look at the other packets and see what king of packets they are and if they are position packets why they are not being sent to IS?

TIA & 73,

Don W.
KD4APP



Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Those are the packets generated by your IGate and are only indirectly related to the gating activity.



2020-04-28 12:51:28 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:>281651zAPRSISCE/32
You have Configure / Status enabled with Timestamp checked but not GridSquare.  If you're beaconing a position (and you are) then it is best NOT to check GridSquare because then you'd be transmitting two different precision locations and some APRS clients will ping-pong your station between them.


2020-04-28 13:20:58 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:@172100h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
That's your posit packet.  Various portions of this are configured via Configure / Beacon.  You might want to set your Configure / Beacon / Mic-E Notification to None (you current have it as !INSERVICE!) as that doesn't really communicate anything helpful when using non-Mic-E posits.


2020-04-28 14:21:31 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=13,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=14,DX=10*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
That's your IGate status message that says that you have copied 13 stations locally, 4 of them direct, and 1 additional station is beyond the "local" range.  You have not gated any messages from the -IS to RF and the furthest station you've recently copied is N4NE-2 which is 45 miles away at 196 degrees.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 4/28/2020 5:01 PM, Don Woodward wrote:
He's some of the RAW packets on aprs.fi from my IGATE

2020-04-28 12:51:28 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:>281651zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 13:20:58 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:@172100h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 13:21:29 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=8,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=8,DX=4*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 13:21:29 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:>281721zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 13:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@172332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 13:51:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281751zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 13:53:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@175332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 14:21:31 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=13,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=14,DX=10*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 14:21:31 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281821zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 14:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@182332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 14:51:32 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281851zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 14:53:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@185332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 15:21:33 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=12,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=13,DX=16*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 15:21:33 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281921zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 15:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@192332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 15:51:34 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281951zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 15:53:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@195332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 16:21:34 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=14,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=14,DX=22*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 16:21:34 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>282021zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 16:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@202332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 16:51:35 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>282051zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 16:53:29 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@205331h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate


From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Don Woodward via groups.io <dbwoodw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:34 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: [APRSISCE] Other type Packets
 
Totally new to APRS - I setup an iGATE with APRIS and a TT4 and am receiving a number of packets, but I believe I saw that only position packets will get gated to IS?  I am seeing the position packets nearby get sent to IS and show up on my "stations heard direct" in aprs.fi.

How can I look at the other packets and see what king of packets they are and if they are position packets why they are not being sent to IS?

TIA & 73,

Don W.
KD4APP



Don Woodward
 

Thanks for all the replies on this.

Don W.
KD4APP


From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Lynn Deffenbaugh via groups.io <kj4erj@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:44 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Other type Packets
 

Those are the packets generated by your IGate and are only indirectly related to the gating activity.



2020-04-28 12:51:28 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:>281651zAPRSISCE/32
You have Configure / Status enabled with Timestamp checked but not GridSquare.  If you're beaconing a position (and you are) then it is best NOT to check GridSquare because then you'd be transmitting two different precision locations and some APRS clients will ping-pong your station between them.


2020-04-28 13:20:58 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:@172100h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
That's your posit packet.  Various portions of this are configured via Configure / Beacon.  You might want to set your Configure / Beacon / Mic-E Notification to None (you current have it as !INSERVICE!) as that doesn't really communicate anything helpful when using non-Mic-E posits.


2020-04-28 14:21:31 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=13,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=14,DX=10*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
That's your IGate status message that says that you have copied 13 stations locally, 4 of them direct, and 1 additional station is beyond the "local" range.  You have not gated any messages from the -IS to RF and the furthest station you've recently copied is N4NE-2 which is 45 miles away at 196 degrees.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 4/28/2020 5:01 PM, Don Woodward wrote:
He's some of the RAW packets on aprs.fi from my IGATE

2020-04-28 12:51:28 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:>281651zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 13:20:58 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:@172100h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 13:21:29 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=8,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=8,DX=4*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 13:21:29 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2POLAND:>281721zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 13:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@172332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 13:51:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281751zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 13:53:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@175332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 14:21:31 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=13,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=14,DX=10*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 14:21:31 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281821zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 14:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@182332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 14:51:32 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281851zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 14:53:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@185332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 15:21:33 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=12,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=13,DX=16*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 15:21:33 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281921zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 15:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@192332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 15:51:34 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>281951zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 15:53:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@195332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 16:21:34 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=14,DIR_CNT=4,RF_CNT=14,DX=22*N4NE-2(45mi@196<0xb0>)
2020-04-28 16:21:34 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>282021zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 16:23:30 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@202332h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate
2020-04-28 16:51:35 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:>282051zAPRSISCE/32
2020-04-28 16:53:29 EDT: KD4APP-5>APWW10,TCPIP*,qAC,T2HAKATA:@205331h3451.48N/08356.15W#!INSERVICE!APRS-IS for Win32 - 2-way iGate


From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Don Woodward via groups.io <dbwoodw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:34 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: [APRSISCE] Other type Packets
 
Totally new to APRS - I setup an iGATE with APRIS and a TT4 and am receiving a number of packets, but I believe I saw that only position packets will get gated to IS?  I am seeing the position packets nearby get sent to IS and show up on my "stations heard direct" in aprs.fi.

How can I look at the other packets and see what king of packets they are and if they are position packets why they are not being sent to IS?

TIA & 73,

Don W.
KD4APP