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Re: What does "Not Queing" mean in the Transmit Log ?

Randy Love
 

Lynn can correct me if I'm wrong, but Digipeating only works for KISS mode ports.
That port looks to be a KNWD port. So, if you have your D710 in APRS mode and using a KNWD port, it won't go.
So, I may be wrong if you have this port as a KISS port of some type and not a KNWD port.

In the second NOT Queing that you have there ( at 22:06:44.888 ), the path is used up, so it won't send that one anyway.
The first one ( at 21:35:42.948 ) has a WIDE2-1 still open. But if you set up your Digi for WIDE1-1, that won't send because the packet doesn't meet the Digi parameters that you set.

Randy
WF5X


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 5:52 PM KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...> wrote:
I hear N4TNA directly.

i have Digipeat active.

Here is a typical sample from my xmit log.
One time I do not transmit his call/beacon. The other I do.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
2019-12-10T21:32:56.200 Transmit(INT) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:=3829.68N/08301.10W-

2019-12-10T21:35:42.948 Transmit(RF) N4TNA-9>SX2Y0U,KD7YZ-15*,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1:`nCMl\Yv/`"5X}Monitoring the KG4DVE Repeater_%
2019-12-10T21:35:42.948 KWD710(APRS)(KWD710(APRS)) NOT Queueing N4TNA-9>SX2Y0U,KD7YZ-15*,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1:`nCMl\Yv/`"5X}Monitoring the KG4DVE
Repeater_%

2019-12-10T21:44:22.317 Transmit(IS) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:T#725,100,048,095,128,000,10100000
2019-12-10T21:44:22.317 Transmit(INT) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:T#725,100,048,095,128,000,10100000
2019-12-10T22:00:22.315 Transmit(IS) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:T#726,100,048,095,128,000,10100000
2019-12-10T22:00:22.315 Transmit(INT) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:T#726,100,048,095,128,000,10100000
2019-12-10T22:04:52.358 Transmit(IS) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=1,DIR_CNT=1,RF_CNT=1

2019-12-10T22:06:44.888 Transmit(RF) N4TNA-9>SX2Y0R,KD7YZ-15*,WIDE1*:`nCXl"7v/`"6*}Monitoring the KG4DVE Repeater_%
2019-12-10T22:06:44.888 KWD710(APRS)(KWD710(APRS)) NOT Queueing N4TNA-9>SX2Y0R,KD7YZ-15*,WIDE1*:`nCXl"7v/`"6*}Monitoring the KG4DVE Repeater_%

2019-12-10T22:15:22.353 Transmit(IS) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:T#727,100,048,088,128,000,10100000


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--
KD7YZ Bob EM88LL




Re: Aprsis32 on my Android sees on my computer doesn't see my Android?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

It would help if you detailed exactly what each of your stations is.  What software, what hardware, and whether they are APRS-IS or RF or both.

And yes, hopefully no one is taking "massive traffic" from online to RF.  Remember, RF is only a 1200 baud shared channel!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 12/11/2019 5:28 PM, K7OI-Mark wrote:
Hello I have a theory about this.

My droid Aprsis app sees my computer k7oi-8. Rd only

My computer k7oi-8 doesn't see droid or any input k7oi-9 or k7oi-7.

Am I doing something wrong? Or is it because no one is digipeating massive traffic from online to rd side?
The later is my guess. I don't have internet in the shack.
Is there a fix?

K7oi Mark in Tucson


What does "Not Queing" mean in the Transmit Log ?

KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...>
 

I hear N4TNA directly.

i have Digipeat active.

Here is a typical sample from my xmit log.
One time I do not transmit his call/beacon. The other I do.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
2019-12-10T21:32:56.200 Transmit(INT) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:=3829.68N/08301.10W-

2019-12-10T21:35:42.948 Transmit(RF) N4TNA-9>SX2Y0U,KD7YZ-15*,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1:`nCMl\Yv/`"5X}Monitoring the KG4DVE Repeater_%
2019-12-10T21:35:42.948 KWD710(APRS)(KWD710(APRS)) NOT Queueing N4TNA-9>SX2Y0U,KD7YZ-15*,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1:`nCMl\Yv/`"5X}Monitoring the KG4DVE
Repeater_%

2019-12-10T21:44:22.317 Transmit(IS) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:T#725,100,048,095,128,000,10100000
2019-12-10T21:44:22.317 Transmit(INT) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:T#725,100,048,095,128,000,10100000
2019-12-10T22:00:22.315 Transmit(IS) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:T#726,100,048,095,128,000,10100000
2019-12-10T22:00:22.315 Transmit(INT) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:T#726,100,048,095,128,000,10100000
2019-12-10T22:04:52.358 Transmit(IS) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=1,DIR_CNT=1,RF_CNT=1

2019-12-10T22:06:44.888 Transmit(RF) N4TNA-9>SX2Y0R,KD7YZ-15*,WIDE1*:`nCXl"7v/`"6*}Monitoring the KG4DVE Repeater_%
2019-12-10T22:06:44.888 KWD710(APRS)(KWD710(APRS)) NOT Queueing N4TNA-9>SX2Y0R,KD7YZ-15*,WIDE1*:`nCXl"7v/`"6*}Monitoring the KG4DVE Repeater_%

2019-12-10T22:15:22.353 Transmit(IS) KD7YZ-15>APWW10,WIDE2-2:T#727,100,048,088,128,000,10100000


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
KD7YZ Bob EM88LL


Aprsis32 on my Android sees on my computer doesn't see my Android?

K7OI-Mark
 

Hello I have a theory about this.

My droid Aprsis app sees my computer k7oi-8. Rd only

My computer k7oi-8 doesn't see droid or any input k7oi-9 or k7oi-7.

Am I doing something wrong? Or is it because no one is digipeating massive traffic from online to rd side?
The later is my guess. I don't have internet in the shack.
Is there a fix?

K7oi Mark in Tucson


Re: DIGI configuration

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Robert is correct.  Whatever you want to digipeat must be in the left side of a <DigiXform> and is replaced by whatever is to the right of the <DigiXform>.  The following would be for my KJ4ERJ-2 iGate to digipeat.

<DigiXform>KJ4ERJ-2=KJ4ERJ-2*</DigiXform>

Basically, whatever is in your Configure / General / MyCall-ssid would be to the left and right of the = in a <DigiXform> with the * added to the right side.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 12/11/2019 1:25 PM, Rob Giuliano via Groups.Io wrote:
Was asked this by a local ham, but wasn't sure of the answer:
  "Does APRSIS32.exe DIGI on the user callsign?"

My answer was:
"I will have to double check, but from memory, it only DIGIs on what is placed in the XML's <!- -DigiXform- -> area (outside the RFPort[#]).  You can add that using the form."
   Example: <DigiXform>KB8RCO=KB8RCO*</DigiXform>

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


Re: Hello I have a passcode

Rob Giuliano
 

As Lynn stated, you need to decide, but the format is what I was referring to.

Fill-in (local, low with limited power), just use:
<DigiXform>WIDE1-1=WIDE1*</DigiXform>

MAJOR (wide area coverage, high with more power to cover the area) would use:
<DigiXform>WIDE1-1=WIDE1*</DigiXform>
<DigiXform>WIDE2-1=WIDE2*</DigiXform>
<DigiXform>WIDE2-2=WIDE2-1</DigiXform>

Others may want state or other specialized (like supporting an event) DIGI would just follow the format to replace what is found (left side of '=') with the text on the right side.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 12:50:01 PM EST, Mark Loiler <k7oi.us@...> wrote:


Ok tnx Rob
So there are 5 or so white plain text boxes in the wiki. Which copy paste options exactly do I want to use. In order.
I'm not really tech minded this will be a first for me.

I did watch a you tube video from a Canadian ham 've?Dec I think showing this still want clear.

K7OI

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019, 10:39 Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:
Because Yahoo is making undesirable changes to its groups, the APRSIS32 Yahoo groups has been migrated to groups.io.

The direct link to the WIKI that discussed setting up DIGIpeating is:


MAKE SURE APRSIS32 is closed (nto running) when you edit the APRSIS32.INI file.  Save and close the file (just to be sure) before opening APRSIS32.exe. 

Find <!- -DigiXform- -> that is AFTER any <!- -RFPort[#]- -> designations.
The format is a little different than most applications, but that makes it extremely flexible.
Most people prefer to "Copy and Paste" from the WIKI, what you want the DIGI to act on, modify as needed.

Save and close the INI and then run APRSIS32.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 11:53:49 AM EST, Mark Loiler k7oi.us@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce-noreply@...> wrote:


Hi I have a passcode thanks.
I am attempting to edit xml. To digipeat in local area. I have msg to several local hams even email posted to wikidot and can't get into yahoogroups (says I'm not a member) must be member to join...

So last resort and I know your busy.

My call K7OI I live in Tucson, Arizona.(Catalina).85739 zip code.

I would like to edit my xml. To allow digipeat. I read your edit xml. Documentation. 
My question there are several plain text boxes 1-4 or so.
Exactly which box or set of commands do I copy to xml.
And do I copy this exactly as you wrote them.

My plan is to improve the system not otherwise. And in a year or two most likely move way out of town to some land and continue Aprs. 

Right now I can operate 5w-50w I've been abt 10-20.
I obviously watched some vids on aprs and still not sure exactly what to change xml to.


DIGI configuration

Rob Giuliano
 

Was asked this by a local ham, but wasn't sure of the answer:
  "Does APRSIS32.exe DIGI on the user callsign?"

My answer was:
"I will have to double check, but from memory, it only DIGIs on what is placed in the XML's <!- -DigiXform- -> area (outside the RFPort[#]).  You can add that using the form."
   Example: <DigiXform>KB8RCO=KB8RCO*</DigiXform>

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


Re: Digipeater xml conf.

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Do you want to be a WIDE1 "fill-in" digipeater or a "high altitude" WIDE2 (or more) digipeater.  Only you can make that determination for your RF environment.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 12/11/2019 12:33 PM, K7OI-Mark wrote:
Hi I have traveled far😁 I'm trying to find out as I've read and watched about everything on aprsis xml file for digipeating.
I live in Tucson but in a year or 2 I plan on living way out in the county.
I need the exact script to edit xml for digipeating for my area. I don't want to mess things up. Can anyone help?


Digipeater xml conf.

K7OI-Mark
 

Hi I have traveled far😁 I'm trying to find out as I've read and watched about everything on aprsis xml file for digipeating.
I live in Tucson but in a year or 2 I plan on living way out in the county.
I need the exact script to edit xml for digipeating for my area. I don't want to mess things up. Can anyone help?


Re: Hello I have a passcode

Rob Giuliano
 

Because Yahoo is making undesirable changes to its groups, the APRSIS32 Yahoo groups has been migrated to groups.io.

The direct link to the WIKI that discussed setting up DIGIpeating is:


MAKE SURE APRSIS32 is closed (nto running) when you edit the APRSIS32.INI file.  Save and close the file (just to be sure) before opening APRSIS32.exe. 

Find <!- -DigiXform- -> that is AFTER any <!- -RFPort[#]- -> designations.
The format is a little different than most applications, but that makes it extremely flexible.
Most people prefer to "Copy and Paste" from the WIKI, what you want the DIGI to act on, modify as needed.

Save and close the INI and then run APRSIS32.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 11:53:49 AM EST, Mark Loiler k7oi.us@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce-noreply@...> wrote:


Hi I have a passcode thanks.
I am attempting to edit xml. To digipeat in local area. I have msg to several local hams even email posted to wikidot and can't get into yahoogroups (says I'm not a member) must be member to join...

So last resort and I know your busy.

My call K7OI I live in Tucson, Arizona.(Catalina).85739 zip code.

I would like to edit my xml. To allow digipeat. I read your edit xml. Documentation. 
My question there are several plain text boxes 1-4 or so.
Exactly which box or set of commands do I copy to xml.
And do I copy this exactly as you wrote them.

My plan is to improve the system not otherwise. And in a year or two most likely move way out of town to some land and continue Aprs. 

Right now I can operate 5w-50w I've been abt 10-20.
I obviously watched some vids on aprs and still not sure exactly what to change xml to.


Re: Keep Settings on Dev Version

Bob KE6GYD
 

Thanks
Bob


Re: HF Locator Modes #poll

Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes)
 

I had to say None as I don't have anything operational yet, but when I do, it will be JS8Call.

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH


Re: Keep Settings on Dev Version

Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes)
 

Yes, all settings stay the same.

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 10:03 AM Bob KE6GYD <ke6gyd@...> wrote:
If I change as described, the 0 to 1 in the XML file  to use the development version, will all settings remain: Particularly, Nicknames and Ports.
73
Bob 
KE6GYD 


Re: Keep Settings on Dev Version

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Yes.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 12/10/2019 10:03 AM, Bob KE6GYD wrote:
If I change as described, the 0 to 1 in the XML file  to use the development version, will all settings remain: Particularly, Nicknames and Ports.
73
Bob 
KE6GYD 


Keep Settings on Dev Version

Bob KE6GYD
 

If I change as described, the 0 to 1 in the XML file  to use the development version, will all settings remain: Particularly, Nicknames and Ports.
73
Bob 
KE6GYD 


Re: More GPS stuff

David Shrum
 

Sorry Lynn,

When I started my reply, your email hadn't shown up yet to me. If I said any thing wrong, please correct it, thanks.

Dave N8PU

 

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 2:34 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] More GPS stuff

 

If it says current is 2012, then you didn't change the right 0 to a 1 or it was reverted.  As I said in an earlier e-mail:

You must make sure APRSIS32 is CLOSED when you edit the XML file and open it back up after saving the changed file.  Otherwise, APRSIS32 will overwrite your changes when you close it.

Either that is the problem, or you're editing the worng (sic) file.  Close APRSIS32 and check the revision date of the file you're about to edit.  It should be the current date and time.  If it's not, you need to find the APRSIS32.XML file that is in the default directory from which you execute APRSIS32.

 

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 12/8/2019 11:26 AM, ve6tdx wrote:

Hi Group.

Lynn, I did change the 0 to1.

But checking the version it just tells me it is the current version,

I’m running version build 2012/08/30.

Is this the last one?

Thanks in advance.

Adrian de Ve6tdx

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: More GPS stuff

David Shrum
 

I can answer that one for you, that is what Lynn called the stable build, the development build should be,
Built: 2019/01/21 17:53

Assuming you made the change (<Update.Development>1</Update.Development>) without APRSIS32 running and saved the change, then restart the program, all that should be required is click on About in the program and it should ask you if you want to download the latest version. At that point it will tell you, you need to restart the program and you should show this version.

Dave N8PU


On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:14 PM ve6tdx <ve6tdx@...> wrote:

Hi Group.

Lynn, I did change the 0 to1.

But checking the version it just tells me it is the current version,

I’m running version build 2012/08/30.

Is this the last one?

Thanks in advance.

Adrian de Ve6tdx

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: More GPS stuff

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

If it says current is 2012, then you didn't change the right 0 to a 1 or it was reverted.  As I said in an earlier e-mail:

You must make sure APRSIS32 is CLOSED when you edit the XML file and open it back up after saving the changed file.  Otherwise, APRSIS32 will overwrite your changes when you close it.

Either that is the problem, or you're editing the worng (sic) file.  Close APRSIS32 and check the revision date of the file you're about to edit.  It should be the current date and time.  If it's not, you need to find the APRSIS32.XML file that is in the default directory from which you execute APRSIS32.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 12/8/2019 11:26 AM, ve6tdx wrote:

Hi Group.

Lynn, I did change the 0 to1.

But checking the version it just tells me it is the current version,

I’m running version build 2012/08/30.

Is this the last one?

Thanks in advance.

Adrian de Ve6tdx

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: More GPS stuff

ve6tdx
 

Hi Group.

Lynn, I did change the 0 to1.

But checking the version it just tells me it is the current version,

I’m running version build 2012/08/30.

Is this the last one?

Thanks in advance.

Adrian de Ve6tdx

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: FT8 Contest

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Yes, John, I have the latest version of JS8Call.  I do really like the turbo mode, but for our purposes the standard mode with lower signal capability is best.  My son and son-in-law both have smaller lots and HOAs to contend with, so they're both running compromised antennas.  I'm the only one with space for a full 40/80 NVIS dipole away from structures.

But yes, the turbo mode sure makes the keyboard QSOs fly!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 12/8/2019 12:46 PM, John KC4LZN wrote:
Lynn,

If you have the latest version of JS8CALL, try the turbo mode. It's dependent on the signal strength but if the stations are strong enough, the fastest speed is literally live keyboard to keyboard, comparable to PSK31 and other similar modes. 40m is the most popular place but activity on 20 is present as well. Haven't heard much on 80. 

GL es gud DX
73
John
KC4LZN
EL98ds

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019, 08:58 Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

To all,

Just in case any of you are wondering why the recent poll was posted about HF locator modes, I've been tinkering with JS8Call for use between myself, my son, and my son-in-law all here in Florida in the event of a major hurricane.  We've all put up 40/80 NVIS antennas and have seen the mode work, but thankfully we didn't need to use it this season.

If any of you haven't heard of JS8Call, it's a low signal, keyboard-to-keyboard chat mode that is based on, but incompatible with, the FT8 low signal mode that is in turn a successor to the JT65 mode that, I believe, was originally written for Earth-Moon-Earth bounce communications, hence the need for low signal capability.

Well, you may have noticed (or not) a Configure / Objects / New JT65 menu option that has been in APRSIS32 for a few years now.  That option would require you to point to your JT65 log file which would be periodically scraped for gridsquare references which will be placed on your local APRS map.  Since both FT8 and JS8Call continue to include gridsquare references in some of their transmissions, I've implemented (but not yet released) parallel object types for those modes.

And since there's an FT8 contest running right now, here's what I've copied on 40m over the past 2 hours.  That's 274 stations across the world, but most of them are in the US.

But then again, a path must have opened up between Florida and Japan recently as well:


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

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