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Re: HTC Mogul PPC-6800

Noel Shrum
 

I ran it for a little while on my Sprint HTC Mogul (PPC-6800).

It worked great.

Noel
W8TVI

On 01/04/2010 11:24 AM, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh wrote:
Is anyone out there running the subject device with APRSISCE? Even
failing that, does anyone know if it actually contains a GPS? The
review below doesn't mention it even though it seems to be fairly detailed.

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/HTC-Mogul.htm

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS. If you have one, be cautious in trying it. I have a report that it
crashed a phone to the extent of needing an entire data restore.
Nothing in my program should be capable of causing that extreme of a
hang. At times, the program can be non-responsive (on my list to fix)
when you are out of data coverage, but the Start Menu still works and
Settings / System / Memory / Running Programs is always able to kill it
without even rebooting the phone, let alone losing data.


Re: Start up whoos

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Dave's pretty quick! That's exactly what I did. As I've mentioned in the past, I keep a copy of APRSIS32 running with u/APWW*/APWM* in the filter text. This gives me packets from anyone running APRSISCE (APWW*) or APRSIS32 (APWM*) as shown on http://www.aprs.org/aprs11/tocalls.txt

When I saw K0OZ show up, I sent a quick APRS message to you telling you about the reply. There really wasn't any direct connection except through my fingertips.

If you have sound on your PC and don't have it muted (I keep mine that way too often), you should have heard a sound when the message arrived and the "No Msg" would have changed to a green background with my callsign in it. If there are any non-acknowledged outbound messages or unread incoming messages when you close the client, it warns you about them so you don't miss them.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

David Shrum wrote:

I've used it to send a message, kind of handy.

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of DonM
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:35 PM
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: Start up whoos

How did aprsis32 know that you answered my post? When I tried to close it
it told me that I had a reply to my message. That is way cool.

Don K0OZ


Re: Start up whoos

David Shrum
 

I've used it to send a message, kind of handy.

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of DonM
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:35 PM
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: Start up whoos

How did aprsis32 know that you answered my post? When I tried to close it
it told me that I had a reply to my message. That is way cool.

Don K0OZ

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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04:41:00


Re: Start up whoos

DonM <morrisdon69@...>
 

How did aprsis32 know that you answered my post? When I tried to close it it told me that I had a reply to my message. That is way cool.

Don K0OZ

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

You must start APRSIS32 with the same default directory each time. It
stores all configuration information in a file called APRSIS32.XML in
the current directory. This directory must be writable by the program
for it to save the configuration there.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSIS32 for Windows

DonM wrote:
When I start up aprsis32 It does not remember my call or my last map. Is that the way it works?

73 Don K0OZ


Re: Start up whoos

DonM <morrisdon69@...>
 

Okay that did it.

Thanks,
Don K0OZ

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

You must start APRSIS32 with the same default directory each time. It
stores all configuration information in a file called APRSIS32.XML in
the current directory. This directory must be writable by the program
for it to save the configuration there.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSIS32 for Windows

DonM wrote:
When I start up aprsis32 It does not remember my call or my last map. Is that the way it works?

73 Don K0OZ


Re: Start up whoos

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

You must start APRSIS32 with the same default directory each time. It stores all configuration information in a file called APRSIS32.XML in the current directory. This directory must be writable by the program for it to save the configuration there.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSIS32 for Windows

DonM wrote:

When I start up aprsis32 It does not remember my call or my last map. Is that the way it works?

73 Don K0OZ


Start up whoos

DonM <morrisdon69@...>
 

When I start up aprsis32 It does not remember my call or my last map. Is that the way it works?

73 Don K0OZ


Re: HTC Mogul PPC-6800

David Shrum
 

I had an Alltel brand one and if I remember correctly, that would be a
no IF you are using a stock rom. Hardware wise it has one but you
can't use it. If you have a different rom that is suppose to let you
use it, I would say a qualified yes. Mine was very slow to lock on to
see the 'birds'; but this was my mileage, yours may vary.

Dave N8PU

On 1/4/10, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@arrl.net> wrote:
Is anyone out there running the subject device with APRSISCE? Even
failing that, does anyone know if it actually contains a GPS? The
review below doesn't mention it even though it seems to be fairly detailed.

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/HTC-Mogul.htm

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS. If you have one, be cautious in trying it. I have a report that it
crashed a phone to the extent of needing an entire data restore.
Nothing in my program should be capable of causing that extreme of a
hang. At times, the program can be non-responsive (on my list to fix)
when you are out of data coverage, but the Start Menu still works and
Settings / System / Memory / Running Programs is always able to kill it
without even rebooting the phone, let alone losing data.




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HTC Mogul PPC-6800

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Is anyone out there running the subject device with APRSISCE? Even failing that, does anyone know if it actually contains a GPS? The review below doesn't mention it even though it seems to be fairly detailed.

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/HTC-Mogul.htm

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS. If you have one, be cautious in trying it. I have a report that it crashed a phone to the extent of needing an entire data restore. Nothing in my program should be capable of causing that extreme of a hang. At times, the program can be non-responsive (on my list to fix) when you are out of data coverage, but the Start Menu still works and Settings / System / Memory / Running Programs is always able to kill it without even rebooting the phone, let alone losing data.


Re: What phone

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

How much data you use is subject to the APRS activity in your area, the range that you configure, and how long you keep the client connected (mine is 24x7). If you double-click the screen part that normally says "APRS OK", it will give you the packets and bytes sent and received since that instance of the client was started.

A client on my desktop that has been running since 1/1 7:46 (1 day 16 hours) says 8,663,362 bytes total with a 200 mile range.

Another client running an unfiltered full feed that has been running for since 12/31 at 16:26 (2 days 4.5 hours) says 490,145,574 bytes.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - As always, YMMV!

g4ilo wrote:

Thanks. I checked on that and "unlimited" over here is subject to a fair usage restriction of 750MB / month. Would that be a problem?

I've found an HTC T3232 Touch 3G which looks OK. So I might go for that instead.

Julian, G4ILO

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

I didn't have time to study the link you sent, but you'd also want to have an unlimited Internet service on the phone. The GPS must (currently) be supported by the Windows Mobile GPSapi. The upcoming release will be able to do NMEA GPS via direct or Bluetooth serial port.


Re: What phone

g4ilo
 

Thanks. I checked on that and "unlimited" over here is subject to a fair usage restriction of 750MB / month. Would that be a problem?

I've found an HTC T3232 Touch 3G which looks OK. So I might go for that instead.

Julian, G4ILO

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

I didn't have time to study the link you sent, but you'd also want to
have an unlimited Internet service on the phone. The GPS must
(currently) be supported by the Windows Mobile GPSapi. The upcoming
release will be able to do NMEA GPS via direct or Bluetooth serial port.


Re: What phone

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

I didn't have time to study the link you sent, but you'd also want to have an unlimited Internet service on the phone. The GPS must (currently) be supported by the Windows Mobile GPSapi. The upcoming release will be able to do NMEA GPS via direct or Bluetooth serial port.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

g4ilo wrote:

Is there anything specific besides Windows Mobile and GPS that a phone would need to have to run this? Would it run on an HP iPAQ like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Voice-Messenger-Organiser-Windows-Mobile/dp/B001NPE8LS/
Julian, G4ILO

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

I developed APRSISCE for an AT&T Tilt (HTC TyTN II) and still use it on
that phone.


Re: What phone

g4ilo
 

Is there anything specific besides Windows Mobile and GPS that a phone would need to have to run this? Would it run on an HP iPAQ like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Voice-Messenger-Organiser-Windows-Mobile/dp/B001NPE8LS/

Julian, G4ILO

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

I developed APRSISCE for an AT&T Tilt (HTC TyTN II) and still use it on
that phone.


Re: What phone

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

I developed APRSISCE for an AT&T Tilt (HTC TyTN II) and still use it on
that phone. I now have an extended battery on the phone and can get 3-4
hours tops with live tracking and GPS active (about a 70 mile range of
monitored space). My phone also heats up quite substantially with all
of the radios active (I keep WiFi active on trips for Navizon mapping),
so I also arrange to have it in front of an A/C duct.

When I turn the GPS off to simply monitor APRS-IS, I can extend the
(extended) battery life to 8 hours or so of the same 70 mile range
around Central Florida. Activity on the APRS-IS network affects battery
life as you would expect. I tried monitoring 1000 miles or so on
battery one time (3G), but it really ate into the battery.

When I go mobile on my bicycle or hiking, I have run 7.2v NiMH battery
pack through a 5v regulator and feed external power to the phone just to
keep it running. With 2 packs and the phone's internal battery, I've
gone well over 12 hours of full tracking with capacity to spare.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

David Shrum wrote:

I use a HTC Touch Pro and it works well for me. Couldn't give you an answer
on the battery because whenever I use it mobile I always have it 'plugged
in' to external power so my phone wouldn't go to sleep, I guess I could
change that setting but chose not to, the only thing I have a small issue
with is, not the program, my phone generates a fair amount of heat running
the GPS and the Cellular at the same time so I try and place my in front of
one of the vents on my vehicle when I'm using it, especially in warm
weather.

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of g4ilo
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:33 PM
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [aprsisce] What phone

I came across APRSISCE while looking for information about APRS apps for
iPhone. I don't own an iPhone, but was considering getting one to run one of
the APRS apps available for it. But now that I have discovered APRSISCE
Windows Mobile based phones are also an option.

So I would be interested to know what phones other users of this program
would recommend. It must support 3G, and have a built-in GPS like the iPhone
3G(S). What battery life can you expect with position reporting enabled?

Julian, G4ILO


Re: Can't zoom map

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

The left and right arrows also change the transparency of the map. If
you fade the map out to nothing, the icons will jump as the program
changes from a Mercator (sp?) projection to a circular distance/heading
mapping of stations from the center of the map. Makes for an
interesting effect to hover between the two projections with lots of
widely distributed stations on the map.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


David Shrum wrote:

I'll give it a try, with the program running you will see a long narrow
'box' in the same frame as the circle, you will notice it has a "+" at the
top and a "-" at the bottom; click one or the other and the map will zoom in
or out. OR the other choice is the up and down arrow keys on your key board,
same results (at least for me), they will also cause the map to zoom in or
out.

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of g4ilo
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:08 PM
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [aprsisce] Can't zoom map

I have just installed APRSIS32 and started it, but I don't know how to zoom
the map. If I click on the screen to try to draw a rectangle round the map,
the whole map moves when I drag.

I closed the program and manually entered my position by editing the XML.
However the map is still just a small view of the whole world which fits
well within the circle. How do I zoom in?

Julian, G4ILO


Re: What phone

David Shrum
 

I use a HTC Touch Pro and it works well for me. Couldn't give you an answer
on the battery because whenever I use it mobile I always have it 'plugged
in' to external power so my phone wouldn't go to sleep, I guess I could
change that setting but chose not to, the only thing I have a small issue
with is, not the program, my phone generates a fair amount of heat running
the GPS and the Cellular at the same time so I try and place my in front of
one of the vents on my vehicle when I'm using it, especially in warm
weather.

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of g4ilo
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:33 PM
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [aprsisce] What phone

I came across APRSISCE while looking for information about APRS apps for
iPhone. I don't own an iPhone, but was considering getting one to run one of
the APRS apps available for it. But now that I have discovered APRSISCE
Windows Mobile based phones are also an option.

So I would be interested to know what phones other users of this program
would recommend. It must support 3G, and have a built-in GPS like the iPhone
3G(S). What battery life can you expect with position reporting enabled?

Julian, G4ILO

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10
04:20:00


What phone

g4ilo
 

I came across APRSISCE while looking for information about APRS apps for iPhone. I don't own an iPhone, but was considering getting one to run one of the APRS apps available for it. But now that I have discovered APRSISCE Windows Mobile based phones are also an option.

So I would be interested to know what phones other users of this program would recommend. It must support 3G, and have a built-in GPS like the iPhone 3G(S). What battery life can you expect with position reporting enabled?

Julian, G4ILO


Re: Can't zoom map

David Shrum
 

I'll give it a try, with the program running you will see a long narrow
'box' in the same frame as the circle, you will notice it has a "+" at the
top and a "-" at the bottom; click one or the other and the map will zoom in
or out. OR the other choice is the up and down arrow keys on your key board,
same results (at least for me), they will also cause the map to zoom in or
out.

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of g4ilo
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:08 PM
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [aprsisce] Can't zoom map

I have just installed APRSIS32 and started it, but I don't know how to zoom
the map. If I click on the screen to try to draw a rectangle round the map,
the whole map moves when I drag.

I closed the program and manually entered my position by editing the XML.
However the map is still just a small view of the whole world which fits
well within the circle. How do I zoom in?

Julian, G4ILO

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10
04:20:00


Re: Can't zoom map

g4ilo
 

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "g4ilo" <julian.g4ilo@...> wrote:

I have just installed APRSIS32 and started it, but I don't know how to zoom the map. If I click on the screen to try to draw a rectangle round the map, the whole map moves when I drag.
Okay. I'm making some progress now. For some reason I thought that clicking on + would zoom in on the map. By accident I found that clicking - does that.

The icons on the map seem a bit small and unclear. Also is there any way to view messages that have been received, after they have been read the first time?

Julian, G4ILO


Re: Feedback solicitation

g4ilo
 

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Can you all drop a note describing your APRS RF station and particularly
the TNC you use and what it takes to enter and exit KISS mode?
I'm using AGW Packet Engine in sound card (KISS Simple) mode.

Julian, G4ILO