Anyone out there running APRSISCE on an HTC Touch Pro?

I was chatting with G4ILO-12 this morning (my time) and he mentioned that his HTC Touch Pro sometimes shows an error message from "device.exe" while running APRSISCE. When this happens, he has to reboot to get a connection back to APRS-IS. He's on 3 UK as a carrier.

If you're running an HTC Touch Pro (on any carrier), please reply and let us know if you've seen this error, any other error, or if it's "just working" for you.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Absolutely ... go to www.pbworks.com where you can create aprsisce.pbworks.com wiki for free. Very easy to use. For an example, check out www.hlares.pbworks.com. I had all of the files and material already and built that in an evening. And it's free.

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Eric Sderman wrote:

Now, if I could only find a free Wiki to start putting all of these
short notes into, we'd end up with a documentation set to which new
users could be pointed! Anyone know of one?

Wikispaces.org maybe? Its used by the QS1R, for example:
http://qs1r.wikispaces.com/

Google Sites could also be used or Google Groups (but then you also
get a mailinglist)

Thanks for the link. I just signed up at wikidot.com and created http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/

The Red Dot article is the only thing there for now, but it looks easy enough to be useful. I'll check out wikispaces.com as well.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Now, if I could only find a free Wiki to start putting all of these
short notes into, we'd end up with a documentation set to which new
users could be pointed! Anyone know of one?

Wikispaces.org maybe? It´s used by the QS1R, for example:
http://qs1r.wikispaces.com/

Google Sites could also be used or Google Groups (but then you also
get a mailinglist)

BR

Eric
SA5BKE

I was in an APRS QSO with M6XSD-1 this morning and was asked what the "red dot" is that "appears sometimes". That was such a good question that I figured I'd answer it here.

Short Answer: The red dot is a visual indicator of the Genius Beaconing's Forecast Error.

Long Answer:

Genius Beaconing's Forecast Error works by calculating where an outside observer would think you are based on your last beaconed speed and heading. It takes that last information and extends it by the time it has been since your last beacon to arrive at an expected lat/lon. This is compared to your actual lat/lon (which, of course, only you know at this point) to derive an error vector (distance and direction). The red dot is plotted inside the circle in that direction and scaled such that the circle is the configured Genius Forecast Error distance.

When the red dot hits the circle, the configured Forecast Error distance has been reached and a new beacon is sent (provided that at least the Min Time has been reached).

So, if you're driving along in a straight line at a steady speed, you won't see the red dot. (It's actually bouncing around a bit underneath your icon in the center of the circle).

If you slow down, that outside observer will still think you're driving fast and will have you further ahead of where you are and the red dot will start moving towards the top of the screen. If you then resume your original speed, the red dot will freeze at that distance ahead. If you go faster than your last beaconed speed the red dot will drift back to the center and will then start falling towards the bottom of the screen as your actual location gets ahead of where the elapsed-time forecast would place you.

Slight heading changes are even more fun. If you turn to the left (by less than the configured Heading Change or that will trigger a new beacon), the red dot will begin drifting to the right. Veer right and it will drift to the left. Resume straight line motion in the new heading and the dot will continue to drift as your actual location continues to get further away from the course indicated by the previously beaconed speed and heading.

Now, if I could only find a free Wiki to start putting all of these short notes into, we'd end up with a documentation set to which new users could be pointed! Anyone know of one?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Lynn W. Deffenbaugh wrote:

Jason Tuggle, K2ENG wrote:

As a side note, the check-mark is now always on and cannot be turned off for
some reason. In older versions, this is how I centered on my own station.

Actually, I disabled that on purpose. I can't tell you how many times I popped up the menu on the station that was being tracked and accidentally unchecked the Center and WHAM, I was back at the middle. So, it no longer toggles off. That's why I moved it to double-clicking

But wait, I just re-tested it and I can still uncheck the Center and it puts me back to the middle. This is both on Win32 and Windows Mobile and works regardless of whether or not I've panned off of the centered station. Go figure! They say the memory is the first thing to go so.....What was I talking about again?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Jason Tuggle, K2ENG wrote:

As a side note, the check-mark is now always on and cannot be turned off for
some reason. In older versions, this is how I centered on my own station.

Actually, I disabled that on purpose. I can't tell you how many times I popped up the menu on the station that was being tracked and accidentally unchecked the Center and WHAM, I was back at the middle. So, it no longer toggles off. That's why I moved it to double-clicking the heading box. It'll make more sense when I figure out an icon to put on the screen indicating that you've dragged the map, or are tracking someone else, or are tracking yourself.

More to come and a new release coming within the next day or two.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Hi Lynn,
The tt4 is connected up to a Tait T500 comercial radio.
Works well. 25 watts
Cheers,
Robin.

Robin Williams wrote:

On RF.
just tried sending message to and from aprsis.Worked fine.
As I live in an area where I hear a lot of digi's etc I recieved 5 ACK'S back.
(unexpected redundant ack from zl3rew-1.)
Is there a way to block out duplicate ack's.

Right now, no. But I'll see if I can move them into the .LOG file in the next release. I'm loath to make them completely disappear just yet. I agree with you though, they get old in the presence of multiple radio paths.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Robin Williams wrote:

I have connected up to my TT4 and all is receiving fine.
Managed to shift all my tiles over to the laptop and seems fine.
Messaging working well ZL3REW-8.
Thanks Lynn,

You're welcome. Glad to know it's all working. What's the TT4 connected to radio-wise?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Lynn,

Just tried the "buddy" filter feature ... works great for filtering down to
just the desired SSID(s).

I added your SSID b/KJ4ERJ* and expanded the display map to all the
southeast US see my station in Atlanta and yours in Palm Bay.


Two Questions:

(1) Is there a limit to the number of SSIDs that can be added in the filter
field?

(2) As a future feature, would it be possible to add the ability to create
User Definable Filters that would automatically add to the "VIEW"
drop-down menu (or if not add perhaps fixed User1, User2, User3, to the
VIEW menu)?


Thanks,

Jerome
WD4CWG




From: "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@arrl.net>

To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com

Date: 02/11/2010 09:04 AM

Subject: Re: [aprsisce] APRSIS32 Tracking

Sent by: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com









Jerome Lofton wrote:

I Just used the "Click --> Center" Tracking" functionality today for
the first time ... great feature to be able to lock onto a specific SSID.

Actually, on APRSIS32, you can just right click on a station and it
start tracking center on him. Either way, the client also adds a Friend
Range filter when you're tracking someone using the normally configured
range. That way if s/he/it travels beyond your normal circle, you'll
still get the updates as well as stations around them.

If you add b/CALL* filters to your Add Filter string (space delimited
where CALL is the prefix of the call you want to track or the entire
callsign without the *), the client will reverse-video those stations in
the scrolling station window.

For instance, here's the filter I run on KJ4ERJ-AP:

b/KJ4DXK* b/KJ4ERJ* b/KJ4OVQ* u/APWW*/APWM* b/W4SGC* b/AF3K

Read more about filters at http://www.aprs-is.net/javAPRSFilter.aspx

I was tracking a friends progress on his flight in his airplane.

That AF3K in my buddy filter is a cool boat that I was tracking as it
went down the Intercoastal Waterway on the Atlantic side of Florida.
Really a cool boat. We had dinner with the owners when they were here
after I tracked them down the coast from Jacksonville. See their boat
at: http://lnvt.wikidot.com/hull-63

Is there a way to save the tracking log so that I can forward it to
him as reference for his speed & path ?

Unfortunately no. But that's a really good idea! The program actually
buffers tracks for ALL stations which is why you see the lines all the
time and get dots for the recent positions of the centered station.
Maybe just a new popup menu option to "Save Track" that's only there if
there's a sufficiently interesting number of points. I'll add that to
the list right after I learn how to write out GPX files of your own
track! It'd be a simple extension of that one.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS. Sneak peek for those that read this far. I'm planning to support
"track in separate window" in some future release of the Win32 client.
The additional window would be only a map and scale bar, but will
otherwise behave like the main window. Then you can keep one window
zoomed out for the local APRS picture while putting up a "picture in
picture" (if you position the windows correctly) of the details of one
or more interesting stations.

Thanks,
Jerome
WD4CWG

Just downloaded APRSISCE Monday for the first time. Installed just fine (or sort of) on my HTC SNAP. So far I've only noticed a couple of things.

1.) If I leave the GPS on and walk into a building were I can not get GPS my phone gets warm and eats batteries like popcorn.

2.) I don't have a touch screen so any 'double click' or 'right click' doesn't work. Made for an interesting time setting up the software as I couldn't get to all the options.

3.) I can't change my icon. I like the phone icon that shows up but I'd rather show the guy walking icon.

Jason Tuggle, K2ENG wrote:

I am running the first recent update. Now for some reason (even though the "center" is checked) it will no longer keep my station centered on the map. I have to keep clicking on my station and selecting center.

If you double-click on the Heading box (beside or below the large speed box), it will first re-center the map on some other station that you were tracking. The next time you double-click it, it will return the center to you. Alternatively, if you click on your own station ("Me"), it should have a check-mark and the Center option checked. If not, check it and the map should stay centered on your station again.

Anyone else having that issue? Perhaps it's something I'm not doing correctly?

I'm trying to figure out some visual cue what mode the client is in. It might be a) statically centered because of a drag, b) statically centered at your "Preferred" view, c) Tracking center on some arbitrary station, or d) Tracking center on itself. If there's an artist out there that can come up with some small visual icon that shows these four states (or the first 3 and the lack of the icon is the fourth), I'd be interested in their ideas. I'm thinking to add such an icon somewhere at the edge of the map which will toggle through the various states when double-clicked until it gets back to state d.

If this doesn't get the tracking restored, let me know and I'll see what else I can figure out.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Jason, K2ENG

It won't be a port of this one, but a friend of mine, KJ4HPQ, is working on a native BlackBerry client. He's not happy about what it does to his battery, but as those of us on Windows Mobile know, that's the price you pay for keeping a live data connection and hot GPS running. That's why we all have car chargers!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

b a wrote:

any chance porting  this application into a blackberry application.

Lynn,

Great ... I look forward also to the next updates.

Best regards,

Jerome
WD4CWG


From: "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@arrl.net>

To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com

Date: 02/11/2010 09:04 AM

Subject: Re: [aprsisce] APRSIS32 Tracking

Sent by: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com









Jerome Lofton wrote:

I Just used the "Click --> Center" Tracking" functionality today for
the first time ... great feature to be able to lock onto a specific SSID.

Actually, on APRSIS32, you can just right click on a station and it
start tracking center on him. Either way, the client also adds a Friend
Range filter when you're tracking someone using the normally configured
range. That way if s/he/it travels beyond your normal circle, you'll
still get the updates as well as stations around them.

If you add b/CALL* filters to your Add Filter string (space delimited
where CALL is the prefix of the call you want to track or the entire
callsign without the *), the client will reverse-video those stations in
the scrolling station window.

For instance, here's the filter I run on KJ4ERJ-AP:

b/KJ4DXK* b/KJ4ERJ* b/KJ4OVQ* u/APWW*/APWM* b/W4SGC* b/AF3K

Read more about filters at http://www.aprs-is.net/javAPRSFilter.aspx

I was tracking a friends progress on his flight in his airplane.

That AF3K in my buddy filter is a cool boat that I was tracking as it
went down the Intercoastal Waterway on the Atlantic side of Florida.
Really a cool boat. We had dinner with the owners when they were here
after I tracked them down the coast from Jacksonville. See their boat
at: http://lnvt.wikidot.com/hull-63

Is there a way to save the tracking log so that I can forward it to
him as reference for his speed & path ?

Unfortunately no. But that's a really good idea! The program actually
buffers tracks for ALL stations which is why you see the lines all the
time and get dots for the recent positions of the centered station.
Maybe just a new popup menu option to "Save Track" that's only there if
there's a sufficiently interesting number of points. I'll add that to
the list right after I learn how to write out GPX files of your own
track! It'd be a simple extension of that one.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS. Sneak peek for those that read this far. I'm planning to support
"track in separate window" in some future release of the Win32 client.
The additional window would be only a map and scale bar, but will
otherwise behave like the main window. Then you can keep one window
zoomed out for the local APRS picture while putting up a "picture in
picture" (if you position the windows correctly) of the details of one
or more interesting stations.

Thanks,
Jerome
WD4CWG