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Re: Windows update problem for / 32 program

David Shrum
 

Well the reason it was incorrect was I had renamed the main folder where the
/32 program was; no the 'bug' was NOT because of something you did, but
something I did. Once I corrected MY mistake the program started working as
before my screw up.

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:19 PM
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: Windows update problem for / 32 program

So, if I understand you correctly, the OSMPath pointed to an invalid
location? If that's the case, I need to fix that bug

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

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Re: Mobile

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Bradley,

I keep APRSISCE up and running on my AT&T Tilt phone 24x7 as KJ4ERJ-12 and have never seen this issue. Do you have your OSMTiles on the main memory or on an SD card? If you double-click an empty space on the map, it will show you the memory consumed by them as well as the path to the tile cache directory tree.

Also, what Range and other additional filters are you running? If you're receiving LOTS of stations, it will affect memory consumption over time as the stations AND the mobile's tracks are accumulated. If you double-click the skinny bars on the left side of the right edge of the screen, it will show you the number of stations and memory consumed by their tracks.

My phone client has been up for 5 hours now (Bring up the Station Popup on Me, the timestamp near the bottom is when you started running the client) and it has the following stats:

Using 398 of 512 stations (yes, I increased the limit in my .XML file)
Age 80 to 180 Minutes (a feature from the next release)
86/96 Track Points (3Kb) (That's my own track)
1851/3744 Total Points (117Kb) (That's ALL tracks)
(394 Dupes, 21 Inv) (Sometime I'll document what these are once I make them more useful).

My OSMTile stats are Total: 10595 87.46MB, but I have them stored on a Storage Card, so that doesn't impact my main memory.

If you bring up Start / Settings / System / Memory, what does it tell you about Storage and Program? Does that number decrease over time faster than the other numbers in APRSISCE increase? Mine says:

Storage Program
Total: 124.91MB 101.38MB
In use: 57.41MB 71.49MB
Free: 67.51MB 29.89MB (dropped to 29.88 while I watched!)

As you can imagine, if I had my 87.46MB of OSM Tiles in the main memory, I'd be hurting!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Bradley Haney wrote:

Is anyone having trouble. With their windows mobile device coming up with a screen saying that it is running. Low on memory and. It asks u which program you want to close to free up memory? The only app I have running on mine is the aprsisce. And the internal gps. This only happens if I run the program. For a long period of time. Like for over 8 hours. Just wondering

Kc9gqr
Bradley
Sent from my BlackBerry


Re: APRSISCE Mobile

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Stan,

It sounds like you've done everything you need to to get the maps prefetched. And when you prefetch, it does not only the level you're on, but drills down 3 more levels for a total of 4 levels of detail. And it does this for the entire visible space when you triggered the prefetch. You should have plenty of detail for your drive to work.

I'd also recommend doing a prefetch on the planet itself (zoomed the whole way out) and then another zoomed in 2 or 3 levels and covering your main stomping grounds. The top 6 zoom levels are exempt from the purger regardless, and having them on-board allows low-resolution expansions of them to be used for missing lower level tiles.

Yes on Question 2, provided that the GPS is working and you have Screen / Tracking / Me checked along with probably Screen / Tracking / Locked. If your TNC connection is working, the beacons will also go out to RF and hopefully to an IGate. You can tell if you're receiving on RF in one of two ways. The scrolling station log will have a * (possibly followed by N) for RF-received stations. The N indicates that multiple copies of the packet were received, most likely from digipeats. The other way is to toggle View / RF / All on and see if any stations show up on the map. The first time you toggle any of the View options on (except View / Ambiguous), View / All is automatically turned off.

I gather this is all under KC7EHJ-3, so I'll be "riding along" from here!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Stan Leeds wrote:

Lynn,

I just finished installing your latest program onto one of my older laptops, IBM Thinkpad T30 1.2GHz and 512MB.
Installed Delormes' serial emulator with an LT-40 USB GPS puck to COM2
Attached a DR-135/T2-135 onto COM1 in KISS as KC7EHJ-3
I plan to have it running mobile @7:30am, noon and @5pm, tomorrow back and forth to work.


For the Map Prefetch, I zoom to the level I wanted, then selected Screen/Map/Prefetch.
Question 1: I take it that when you say "wait until it is finished" (prefetching) that you wait for the Yellow Circle to stop expanding, correct?

So I started at my QTH, then went along a 10 mile path and at each place I did a Screen/Map/Prefetch. Then I made the change to <OSM.RetainDays> to 0 (zero).

Question 2: So now when I fire everything up in the morning and drive my route, the program will move the map according to my coordinates, correct?

Things and 73,
Stan/KC7EHJ



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Re: Windows update problem for / 32 program

David Shrum
 

Don't know if my (earlier) reply to my own message went through but I did
find out what went wrong; ME. Earlier in the day I went and renamed the
parent folder on both computers to a name that made more since to me, not
realizing it would screw up the tile location. Once I changed the name in
the XML file to reflect the 'new' name of the folder, everything 'magically'
started working again. D'oh.

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:16 PM
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Windows update problem for / 32 program

David Shrum wrote:
My laptop is similar except that it is a 64 bit system, it will initialize
saying APRS OK but the yellow ring is the same thing and even if I click
on
a menu item I can close it down without using the task manager, bummer.
I do all my development and testing on a Windows 7 Pro 64 bit system.
It's running fine on mine, but I haven't let the latest uSoft updates
apply just yet, although I was headed for my weekly reboot anyway...

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

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Mobile with the TT4

K3RWN
 

I have made a few observations running /32 mobile and the TT4.  First if I track myself I find that my track on APRS-FI shows many points that are not showing up on /32.  I am thinking this can occur because I am being heard but not receiving the DIGI in the mobile.  I have turned on WYPTXT on the TT4 which is supposed to update my position on the map regardless if I was heard or received.  I am guessing that the WYPTXT feature on the TT4 is not working properly in KISS mode.  I have no way of testing it in TEXT mode.  I am going to make a post on the TT4 reflector to see if others have it working.  Are there any other items I should be looking at that may be the issue?

 

I have to say that I love this program and I am having a ball playing with it.  I have a ton of tiles for my area and the map detail is great.  Lynn I cannot thank you enough for such a great APRS software package.

 

Rioch


Re: Windows update problem for / 32 program

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

N8PU wrote:
D'OH, I found my problem, do I feel dumb. I renamed the parent folder where everything /32 was stored. Corrected the name in the 'XML' file on both the desktop and laptop and guess what... Everything is back to working again, oh boy....
So, if I understand you correctly, the OSMPath pointed to an invalid location? If that's the case, I need to fix that bug. I've had a niggle about some sort of temporary memory of what tiles were attempted and avoid attempting them again until some suitable time had elapsed, but right now the program has no internal memory of the tiles, just the file system and that can't record the tiles that failed retrieval.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: Windows update problem for / 32 program

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

David Shrum wrote:
My laptop is similar except that it is a 64 bit system, it will initialize
saying APRS OK but the yellow ring is the same thing and even if I click on
a menu item I can close it down without using the task manager, bummer.
I do all my development and testing on a Windows 7 Pro 64 bit system. It's running fine on mine, but I haven't let the latest uSoft updates apply just yet, although I was headed for my weekly reboot anyway...

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: Windows update problem for / 32 program

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Sounds to me like you've lost Internet access for the program. Possibly the update turned on an outbound firewall that is preventing the program from connecting to the Internet.

Can you turn on Enables / Debug Logging, close the program, start the program, let it run for a bit (with the rings going out), Turn off Enables/Debug Logging, close the program and then e-mail APRSIS32.LOG from the executing directory to KJ4ERJ@arrl.net. I'll see if the logs tell me anything about what's happening.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

David Shrum wrote:

Today windows updated the system and since that the /32 version will do
nothing other than load, showing the circle with the yellow ring
continuously going out to the ring, on both my desktop which is 32 bit
system, it says not initialized. If I click on the "X" to close the window
it will allow that IF I haven't on one of the menus at the top, if I do that
I have to use the Task Manager to shut it down.

My laptop is similar except that it is a 64 bit system, it will initialize
saying APRS OK but the yellow ring is the same thing and even if I click on
a menu item I can close it down without using the task manager, bummer.

I'm not blaming the /32 program, I'm blaming the windows update because the
program worked until the update(s). Color me as 'not a happy camper'. :(

Dave N8PU

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Re: New Self-Updating Version Available!

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Gary Sanders wrote:

Committing to flash is apparently an all or nothing thing, as far as I can tell. However, it supports USB, and on another Thin Client I have a USB flash drive plugged in to archive weather data from the Peet Brothers weather station connected to it. So, I see no reason why the XML file couldn't be saved to it (other than the current requirement that ancillary files go into the same subdirectory that the program runs from) If I could specify a fully qualified path, it would probably work.
Just put the APRSIS32 directory on the flash drive and run the program from there. The XML will be in the same directory as the .EXE and they'll both be on the flash. Allowing you to specify a fully-qualified location to the XML file would still require the flash to be in all the time, so I don't see a difference.

Besides, if I let you configure an XML location, where would I get that location to read the configuration the first time? Chicken and Egg situation unless I let you put it on the command line....Hm, another ToDo list item!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: Hallo :)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Greetings and welcome,

I keep the latest released version in the Files section of the Yahoo group. If you download that one, it contains logic in the About dialog box that checks to see if there's a newer version and can automatically download it as well, provided that you have an Internet connection and APRS-IS enabled when you bring up the About box.

There's also a fledgling Wiki at http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/

What platform will you be using it on? Win32 (desktop) or a Windows Mobile phone? If the latter, which one?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Leszek Kowalski wrote:



I am new on this group and say 73 to all. Nice to be witch You and this project :)

Whitch of versions of APRSISCE is the newest?


SQ9MLI (SQ9MLI-9)





Mobile

Bradley Haney <kc9gqr@...>
 

Is anyone having trouble. With their windows mobile device coming up with a screen saying that it is running. Low on memory and. It asks u which program you want to close to free up memory? The only app I have running on mine is the aprsisce. And the internal gps. This only happens if I run the program. For a long period of time. Like for over 8 hours. Just wondering

Kc9gqr
Bradley
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APRSISCE Mobile

Stan Leeds <srkleeds@...>
 

Lynn,

I just finished installing your latest program onto one of my older laptops, IBM Thinkpad T30 1.2GHz and 512MB.
Installed Delormes' serial emulator with an LT-40 USB GPS puck to COM2
Attached a DR-135/T2-135 onto COM1 in KISS as KC7EHJ-3
I plan to have it running mobile @7:30am, noon and @5pm, tomorrow back and forth to work.


For the Map Prefetch, I zoom to the level I wanted, then selected Screen/Map/Prefetch.

Question 1: I take it that when you say "wait until it is finished" (prefetching) that you wait for the Yellow Circle to stop expanding, correct?

So I started at my QTH, then went along a 10 mile path and at each place I did a Screen/Map/Prefetch. Then I made the change to <OSM.RetainDays> to 0 (zero).

Question 2: So now when I fire everything up in the morning and drive my route, the program will move the map according to my coordinates, correct?

Things and 73,
Stan/KC7EHJ


Re: Windows update problem for / 32 program

David Shrum
 

D'OH, I found my problem, do I feel dumb. I renamed the parent folder where everything /32 was stored. Corrected the name in the 'XML' file on both the desktop and laptop and guess what... Everything is back to working again, oh boy....

Dave N8PU

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "David Shrum" <dave.n8pu@...> wrote:

Today windows updated the system and since that the /32 version will do
nothing other than load, showing the circle with the yellow ring
continuously going out to the ring, on both my desktop which is 32 bit
system, it says not initialized. If I click on the "X" to close the window
it will allow that IF I haven't on one of the menus at the top, if I do that
I have to use the Task Manager to shut it down.

My laptop is similar except that it is a 64 bit system, it will initialize
saying APRS OK but the yellow ring is the same thing and even if I click on
a menu item I can close it down without using the task manager, bummer.

I'm not blaming the /32 program, I'm blaming the windows update because the
program worked until the update(s). Color me as 'not a happy camper'. :(

Dave N8PU

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Windows update problem for / 32 program

David Shrum
 

Today windows updated the system and since that the /32 version will do
nothing other than load, showing the circle with the yellow ring
continuously going out to the ring, on both my desktop which is 32 bit
system, it says not initialized. If I click on the "X" to close the window
it will allow that IF I haven't on one of the menus at the top, if I do that
I have to use the Task Manager to shut it down.

My laptop is similar except that it is a 64 bit system, it will initialize
saying APRS OK but the yellow ring is the same thing and even if I click on
a menu item I can close it down without using the task manager, bummer.

I'm not blaming the /32 program, I'm blaming the windows update because the
program worked until the update(s). Color me as 'not a happy camper'. :(

Dave N8PU

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Re: New Self-Updating Version Available!

Gary Sanders
 

Lynn W. Deffenbaugh wrote:
Gary,
If you double-click the narrow bars on the left side of the right edge
of the display, it should tell you something like "Using N of M
stations". If N is greater than M, then APRSISCE/32 is dynamically
replacing stations that have exceeded MinAge even though they haven't
gotten to MaxAge in an attempt to keep the total station count below
MaxCount (all <Station.xxxx> in the XML).
I did happen to look at that this morning, and it indicated something like "600 of 128"

I just found and fixed a bug this morning when a Track(XXXXX-NN) station
exceeds MinAge and gets replaced in this fashion. The program would
start saying it was Track()ing the replacement station instead of the
original. I fixed that this morning and it will be in the next release
of the client. Eliminating Track() stations after their MaxAge was
working correctly, it was the replacement caused by MaxCount/MinAge that
was/is broken.
Yep, it sounds like you've zeroed in on the culprit! Sounds like it was one those problems that could have been really elusive...

This happened to me this morning as I had MinAge set to 30 minutes and
my wife's van's tracker shuts off 20 minutes after parking. She was
parked for an hour and I noticed that I was now Track()ing a different
station!
It did have me scratching my head a little bit when I first encountered it too. :)


PS. That HP ThinClient trick sounds neat with the flash vs RAM. Is
there a way to flag any single file(s) or directory as "flash on
update"? Or do you always have to manually commit the RAM to Flash?
There's lots of cool stuff that gets saved dynamically to the .XML file
that you might want retained all the time.
Committing to flash is apparently an all or nothing thing, as far as I can tell. However, it supports USB, and on another Thin Client I have a USB flash drive plugged in to archive weather data from the Peet Brothers weather station connected to it. So, I see no reason why the XML file couldn't be saved to it (other than the current requirement that ancillary files go into the same subdirectory that the program runs from) If I could specify a fully qualified path, it would probably work.

Gary Sanders
WB0BZR


Re: Hallo :)

Fred Hillhouse
 

Both of the most recent versions (CE and 32) are in the files section.
 
Welcome!
Fred


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Leszek Kowalski
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 17:06
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Hallo :)

 

I am new on this group and say 73 to all. Nice to be witch You and this project :)

Whitch of versions of APRSISCE is the newest?


SQ9MLI (SQ9MLI-9)



Hallo :)

Leszek Kowalski <sq9mli@...>
 

I am new on this group and say 73 to all. Nice to be witch You and this project :)

Whitch of versions of APRSISCE is the newest?


SQ9MLI (SQ9MLI-9)



Re: Sending E-mail from APRSISCE/32 [1 Attachment]

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Fred Hillhouse wrote:
I don't know why I have EMAIL(-2) in those fields. It seems they were there when I started looking at this but I am not sure. How can I clear the slate for those fields to start over?
To clear the buffered e-mail addresses and/or message callsigns, simply edit the XML file (http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/editing-xml-configuration) and delete whatever <MessageCall> or <EMail> you don't want to appear there. You should find them near the bottom of the XML file. Make sure you delete the whole tag (starting and ending, actually the whole line).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: Sending E-mail from APRSISCE/32

Fred Hillhouse
 

Hi Lynn,
 
Hopefully the attachment will come through. It will explain what I did.
 
I see what I did incorrectly. At some point EMAIL or EMAIL-2 came up in the "To" field and from then on I assumed that is what was meant. The "To" field is really the email address and the "Text'"is really the message to be sent. You are inserting the EMAIL(-2) automatically for us.
 
In the Send Message option, EMAIL is already loaded in the "To" field as well.
 
I don't know why I have EMAIL(-2) in those fields. It seems they were there when I started looking at this but I am not sure. How can I clear the slate for those fields to start over?
 
Sorry about not including the call sign! Oops!
 
It is really fast! Wow!
 
I don't get your comments about the shortcuts yet. But I will go back and run through it again.
 
Thanks!
Fred, N7FMH
 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 15:12
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Sending E-mail from APRSISCE/32

 

Fred (& all),

First, it's always helpful to include the callsign-SSID under which
you're asking a question. Luckily, I know Fred's, so I was able to get
to the correct station on aprs.fi fairly quickly.

As to the e-mail problem, here's what aprs.fi has for your raw packets:

2010-03-09 18:48:00 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL fmhillhouse@comcast.net w/PW

2010-03-09 18:48:00 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-09 18:48:36 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL: fmhillhouse@comcast.net /PW

2010-03-10 17:43:38 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL plauzon2001@gmail.com this is through APRSIS32

2010-03-10 17:43:38 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-10 17:44:27 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-10 17:44:27 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL plauzon2001@gmail.com This is through APRSIS32

2010-03-10 17:44:55 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: plauzon2001@gmail.com APRSIS32

2010-03-10 17:44:55 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: Email sent to plauzon2001@gmail.com

2010-03-10 17:47:01 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL plauzon2001@gmail.com This is through APRSIS32

2010-03-10 17:47:01 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-10 19:37:09 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL fmhillhouse@comcast.net 03102010 testing

2010-03-10 19:37:09 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-10 19:38:33 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL: fmhillhouse@comcast.net 2nd 03102010 test

2010-03-10 19:41:23 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-10 19:41:23 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL plauzon@gmail.com Saying HI from APRSIS32

According to what I see here, you were indeed "leaving the building".
The APRS-IS is a really quick transport medium, and errors like this one
are really quick for the EMAIL-2 server to deal with.

The problem you had is that you were apparently using the "Send EMail"
option in APRSIS32 but were putting EMAIL at the front of the address.
The one that worked, you seem to have used "Send Message" and entered
(or selected) EMAIL as the recipient?

The design of APRSISCE/32 is to assist with sending e-mail from the
client. If you use Messages / Send EMail, simply enter the target
e-mail address in the To: dropdown entry field and your message text in
the Text: field. The client will send an APRS message to the configured
e-mail server (default EMAIL-2) properly formatted with the To: e-mail
address first followed by the Text: The To: e-mail address cannot have
any spaces.

If you want to use Messages / Send Message, you can send it to either
EMAIL (the old server, sometimes down) or EMAIL-2 (the new server with
more capabilities), but in this case you need to put the e-mail address
as the first "word" of the Text: box. And APRSISCE/32 won't record
e-mail addresses in this mode so you'll have to enter them every time.

You can also use Messages / Send EMail to set up shortcuts as long as
you haven't changed the default e-mail server from EMAIL-2. Simply
enter the shortcut into the To: box and the e-mail address in Text: and
EMAIL-2 will record that shortcut for future use. This lets you put
more text in the message because the shortcut is usually shorter than an
e-mail address. By setting up shortcuts, others can even send e-mail
back to your APRS client!

See http://www.aprs-is.net/Email.aspx for additional details on the
EMAIL-2 server and the POP3 support that it has.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Fred Hillhouse wrote:
>
>
> Hi Lynn,
>
> I haven't done much with sending EMAIL yet. Today I have sent several
> to myself as a test. I have seen similar results with the previous
> version so it does not seem to be something new. I previously had not
> followed a particular set of steps while taking note.
>
> When I choose to send an email, I will often get a message back saying:
>
> "No email address found! Reply?"
>
> At the top of the window there is:
> EMAIL-2 2010-03-10 14:41:23
>
> The response is immediate or at least fast enough that I doubt it
> leaves the building.
>
> I have selected Messages>Send EMail and typed in my email address and
> message.
>
> Any clues?
>
> Thanks!
> Fred
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 09, 2010 20:05
> *To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [aprsisce] New Self-Updating Version Available!
>
>
>
> Here it is, a new release that makes new releases easier! The About
> dialog box now checks a web server for new versions and offers to
> download them directly to your phone or PC! It even preserves the
> existing .EXE under a dated name! However, to get this functionality,
> you have to download this version the old way, via the Yahoo Group's
> Files section.
>
> Even better, as long as APRS-IS is enabled, the client will
> periodically
> (every 2 days by default) check the server for a new version and will
> send itself an APRS message announcing the availability. If you don't
> bring up About and download it, another reminder APRS message will be
> self-sent every 7 days. If yet another new version becomes available,
> the cycle starts all over again.
>
> What else is new? I'm glad you asked!
>
> Pending messages now automatically trigger another retry set when a
> beacon is heard from the intended recipient. The pending message
> popup
> box also changes from seconds, to minutes, to hours, or even days ago!
>
> If you close the client while still Await()ing a station to track, it
> remembers that on restart. If the station you were tracking exceeds
> MaxAge and disappears, the client will go back to Await(XXXXX-NN)
> automatically.
>
> OSMPaths are no longer truncated, so you can use any (reasonable)
> length
> path and it should be able to put the zoom/x/y.png tree below it.
>
> Position Ambiguity is now displayed in station popups and a View /
> Ambiguous allows filtering to see only those stations with ambiguity
> set. On Win32, if you zoom in on such a station, a purplish circle
> shows the ambiguity specified by the station (0.1 1.0 10.0 or 60.0
> nautical miles).
>
> On Win32 only, the station popup displays the hourly packet counts
> received from IS, RF, or both for the past 8 hours. In addition, you
> can send ?APRSH to either version to get a list of recently heard
> stations on RF. Win32 also supports ?APRSH XXXXX-NN to return the
> hourly packet counts for that station as heard by that station.
>
> Mic-E message text is parsed and displayed in the Station Popup as
> Mic-E
> xxxx). Note that the station popup MIGHT be getting too tall on
> Windows
> Mobile. If so, this will be addressed in some future release.
>
> ?APRSM from a station will cause all pending messages for the sending
> station to be re-queued for transmission. A response is sent
> indicating how many messages were requeued.
>
> ?APRSV or ?VER will return the client's timestamp (version) string.
>
> Rel: and Pos: in the station popup have been changed to Ctr: and
> ME: and
> show distance and bearing FROM the queried station TO either the
> center
> or My coordinates.
>
> Enjoy! Eventually I'll get back to working down the ToDo list instead
> of chasing other rainbows!
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>
> PS. Here's the LONG list of changes.... The ToDo list is still
> downloadable in a .TXT file from Yahoo.
>
> Exhausted retry message display now will do seconds, minutes,
> hours, or
> days ago (exactly how long IS 468 minutes? 7.8 hours makes more
> sense.)
>
> If an Await(XXXX-N) station is not discovered before closing the
> client,
> don't forget to keep waiting for the station on restart. (Gary
> WB0BZR)
> (Dave N8PU)
>
> Fix OSMPath length so that it doesn't truncate for "reasonable"
> length
> directory paths (James VE6SRV)
>
> Put a progress bar on fetching non-tile data (Addresses and
> Updated .EXEs)
>
> Change APRSISCE progname (reported to APRS-IS server) to
> APRSISCE6P to
> match .EXE name and provide room for additional CE builds if
> necessary.
>
> The About dialog box checks for, confirms, and downloads .EXE
> updates if
> Internet-connected. It will say "Current Version Verified" if it
> checked and you are already running the latest. No longer
> necessary to
> download .ZIP and copy .EXEs. Original .EXE is saved under a release
> date name.
>
> Additionally, if APRS-IS is enabled, the program will periodically
> check
> for new versions and send itself an APRS message when one is
> available.
> Default is to check every 2 days with additional reminders every 7
> days. For the REALLY brave, you can set > to 1 to
> get my incremental development builds (note that these may be
> COMPLETELY
> broken at times).
>
> If a tracking station exceeds the MaxAge, change from
> Track(XXXXX-N) to
> Await(XXXXX-N) and retain across process restarts. This works best
> with
> Screen / Tracking / Locked.
>
> Add Hours and Days to how long ago a Pending Message was retried.
> Also
> add "Second" to the active retries if Retriggered by a newly received
> packet.
>
> Preserve Await(XXXXX-N) status across restarts, even if the
> station had
> not been heard yet.
>
> Support $GPVTG sentence from Delorme's Bluetooth GPS (Speed-only)
>
> Support View / Ambiguous to show only stations that are using
> ambiguity
> in their beaconed position
>
> Draw a purplish circle at the range of an ambiguously positioned
> station. Also, put the station 1/2 into the ambiguous region
> (latitude
> only) like aprs.fi. (However, aprs.fi also moves the longitude, I
> don't
> per spec) (Circles on Win32 for performance reasons)
>
> Add an Hourly packet count to Station Popup, differentiating
> between RF
> (only), IS (only), and I+R (both) (Win32 only for vertical size
> restrictions)
>
> Support ?APRSH to send back an RF-heard station list. ?APRSH
>
> will send back the hourly packet counts heard from that station
> (both RF
> and IS) (Win32 only for memory considerations, although you can
> send the
> message from CE)
>
> Parse Mic-E message text and display in Station Popup (Mic-E:
> xxxx) if
> known for a station
>
> Deal with stations that put spaces after their ackxxxx or rejxxxx
> message (N4GVA-2 in CONV mode!)
>
> Handle a ?APRSM query by re-initiating retries for all messages
> for the
> sending station. A response is sent with the requeued message count.
>
> Handle a ?APRSV or ?VER query by sending back the client's timestamp
> (version) string
>
> Change ?APRS to ?APRS? to initiate a remotely-triggered forced
> Transmit
> (only if Tracking is enabled)
>
> Change Rel: and Pos: to Ctr: (Center) and ME: (Me) for relative
> position
> information in station popup. Bearing is now FROM the station TO
> either
> the center or My coordinates. (Win32 displays all, Mobile displays 1).
>
> Display "Ambiguity: NNN nm" in the popup if station is using
> ambiguity.
> On Mobile, this trumps teh Ctr: and/or ME: lines in the station popup.
>
> Lat/Lon grid on blank "map" screen if you fade the OSM to nothing it
> displays 10 degree lines (Sailor Dave KO4MI)
>
>
>
>
>


Sending E-mail from APRSISCE/32

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Fred (& all),

First, it's always helpful to include the callsign-SSID under which you're asking a question. Luckily, I know Fred's, so I was able to get to the correct station on aprs.fi fairly quickly.

As to the e-mail problem, here's what aprs.fi has for your raw packets:

2010-03-09 18:48:00 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL fmhillhouse@comcast.net w/PW

2010-03-09 18:48:00 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-09 18:48:36 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL: fmhillhouse@comcast.net /PW

2010-03-10 17:43:38 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL plauzon2001@gmail.com this is through APRSIS32

2010-03-10 17:43:38 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-10 17:44:27 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-10 17:44:27 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL plauzon2001@gmail.com This is through APRSIS32

2010-03-10 17:44:55 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: plauzon2001@gmail.com APRSIS32

2010-03-10 17:44:55 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: Email sent to plauzon2001@gmail.com

2010-03-10 17:47:01 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL plauzon2001@gmail.com This is through APRSIS32

2010-03-10 17:47:01 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-10 19:37:09 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL fmhillhouse@comcast.net 03102010 testing

2010-03-10 19:37:09 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-10 19:38:33 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL: fmhillhouse@comcast.net 2nd 03102010 test

2010-03-10 19:41:23 UTC: EMAIL-2>N7FMH: No email address found!

2010-03-10 19:41:23 UTC: N7FMH>EMAIL-2: EMAIL plauzon@gmail.com Saying HI from APRSIS32


According to what I see here, you were indeed "leaving the building". The APRS-IS is a really quick transport medium, and errors like this one are really quick for the EMAIL-2 server to deal with.

The problem you had is that you were apparently using the "Send EMail" option in APRSIS32 but were putting EMAIL at the front of the address. The one that worked, you seem to have used "Send Message" and entered (or selected) EMAIL as the recipient?

The design of APRSISCE/32 is to assist with sending e-mail from the client. If you use Messages / Send EMail, simply enter the target e-mail address in the To: dropdown entry field and your message text in the Text: field. The client will send an APRS message to the configured e-mail server (default EMAIL-2) properly formatted with the To: e-mail address first followed by the Text: The To: e-mail address cannot have any spaces.

If you want to use Messages / Send Message, you can send it to either EMAIL (the old server, sometimes down) or EMAIL-2 (the new server with more capabilities), but in this case you need to put the e-mail address as the first "word" of the Text: box. And APRSISCE/32 won't record e-mail addresses in this mode so you'll have to enter them every time.

You can also use Messages / Send EMail to set up shortcuts as long as you haven't changed the default e-mail server from EMAIL-2. Simply enter the shortcut into the To: box and the e-mail address in Text: and EMAIL-2 will record that shortcut for future use. This lets you put more text in the message because the shortcut is usually shorter than an e-mail address. By setting up shortcuts, others can even send e-mail back to your APRS client!

See http://www.aprs-is.net/Email.aspx for additional details on the EMAIL-2 server and the POP3 support that it has.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Fred Hillhouse wrote:



Hi Lynn,
I haven't done much with sending EMAIL yet. Today I have sent several to myself as a test. I have seen similar results with the previous version so it does not seem to be something new. I previously had not followed a particular set of steps while taking note.
When I choose to send an email, I will often get a message back saying:
"No email address found! Reply?"
At the top of the window there is:
EMAIL-2 2010-03-10 14:41:23
The response is immediate or at least fast enough that I doubt it leaves the building.
I have selected Messages>Send EMail and typed in my email address and message.
Any clues?
Thanks!
Fred

------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 09, 2010 20:05
*To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [aprsisce] New Self-Updating Version Available!


Here it is, a new release that makes new releases easier! The About
dialog box now checks a web server for new versions and offers to
download them directly to your phone or PC! It even preserves the
existing .EXE under a dated name! However, to get this functionality,
you have to download this version the old way, via the Yahoo Group's
Files section.

Even better, as long as APRS-IS is enabled, the client will
periodically
(every 2 days by default) check the server for a new version and will
send itself an APRS message announcing the availability. If you don't
bring up About and download it, another reminder APRS message will be
self-sent every 7 days. If yet another new version becomes available,
the cycle starts all over again.

What else is new? I'm glad you asked!

Pending messages now automatically trigger another retry set when a
beacon is heard from the intended recipient. The pending message
popup
box also changes from seconds, to minutes, to hours, or even days ago!

If you close the client while still Await()ing a station to track, it
remembers that on restart. If the station you were tracking exceeds
MaxAge and disappears, the client will go back to Await(XXXXX-NN)
automatically.

OSMPaths are no longer truncated, so you can use any (reasonable)
length
path and it should be able to put the zoom/x/y.png tree below it.

Position Ambiguity is now displayed in station popups and a View /
Ambiguous allows filtering to see only those stations with ambiguity
set. On Win32, if you zoom in on such a station, a purplish circle
shows the ambiguity specified by the station (0.1 1.0 10.0 or 60.0
nautical miles).

On Win32 only, the station popup displays the hourly packet counts
received from IS, RF, or both for the past 8 hours. In addition, you
can send ?APRSH to either version to get a list of recently heard
stations on RF. Win32 also supports ?APRSH XXXXX-NN to return the
hourly packet counts for that station as heard by that station.

Mic-E message text is parsed and displayed in the Station Popup as
Mic-E
xxxx). Note that the station popup MIGHT be getting too tall on
Windows
Mobile. If so, this will be addressed in some future release.

?APRSM from a station will cause all pending messages for the sending
station to be re-queued for transmission. A response is sent
indicating how many messages were requeued.

?APRSV or ?VER will return the client's timestamp (version) string.

Rel: and Pos: in the station popup have been changed to Ctr: and
ME: and
show distance and bearing FROM the queried station TO either the
center
or My coordinates.

Enjoy! Eventually I'll get back to working down the ToDo list instead
of chasing other rainbows!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS. Here's the LONG list of changes.... The ToDo list is still
downloadable in a .TXT file from Yahoo.

Exhausted retry message display now will do seconds, minutes,
hours, or
days ago (exactly how long IS 468 minutes? 7.8 hours makes more
sense.)

If an Await(XXXX-N) station is not discovered before closing the
client,
don't forget to keep waiting for the station on restart. (Gary
WB0BZR)
(Dave N8PU)

Fix OSMPath length so that it doesn't truncate for "reasonable"
length
directory paths (James VE6SRV)

Put a progress bar on fetching non-tile data (Addresses and
Updated .EXEs)

Change APRSISCE progname (reported to APRS-IS server) to
APRSISCE6P to
match .EXE name and provide room for additional CE builds if
necessary.

The About dialog box checks for, confirms, and downloads .EXE
updates if
Internet-connected. It will say "Current Version Verified" if it
checked and you are already running the latest. No longer
necessary to
download .ZIP and copy .EXEs. Original .EXE is saved under a release
date name.

Additionally, if APRS-IS is enabled, the program will periodically
check
for new versions and send itself an APRS message when one is
available.
Default is to check every 2 days with additional reminders every 7
days. For the REALLY brave, you can set <Update.Development> to 1 to
get my incremental development builds (note that these may be
COMPLETELY
broken at times).

If a tracking station exceeds the MaxAge, change from
Track(XXXXX-N) to
Await(XXXXX-N) and retain across process restarts. This works best
with
Screen / Tracking / Locked.

Add Hours and Days to how long ago a Pending Message was retried.
Also
add "Second" to the active retries if Retriggered by a newly received
packet.

Preserve Await(XXXXX-N) status across restarts, even if the
station had
not been heard yet.

Support $GPVTG sentence from Delorme's Bluetooth GPS (Speed-only)

Support View / Ambiguous to show only stations that are using
ambiguity
in their beaconed position

Draw a purplish circle at the range of an ambiguously positioned
station. Also, put the station 1/2 into the ambiguous region
(latitude
only) like aprs.fi. (However, aprs.fi also moves the longitude, I
don't
per spec) (Circles on Win32 for performance reasons)

Add an Hourly packet count to Station Popup, differentiating
between RF
(only), IS (only), and I+R (both) (Win32 only for vertical size
restrictions)

Support ?APRSH to send back an RF-heard station list. ?APRSH
<station>
will send back the hourly packet counts heard from that station
(both RF
and IS) (Win32 only for memory considerations, although you can
send the
message from CE)

Parse Mic-E message text and display in Station Popup (Mic-E:
xxxx) if
known for a station

Deal with stations that put spaces after their ackxxxx or rejxxxx
message (N4GVA-2 in CONV mode!)

Handle a ?APRSM query by re-initiating retries for all messages
for the
sending station. A response is sent with the requeued message count.

Handle a ?APRSV or ?VER query by sending back the client's timestamp
(version) string

Change ?APRS to ?APRS? to initiate a remotely-triggered forced
Transmit
(only if Tracking is enabled)

Change Rel: and Pos: to Ctr: (Center) and ME: (Me) for relative
position
information in station popup. Bearing is now FROM the station TO
either
the center or My coordinates. (Win32 displays all, Mobile displays 1).

Display "Ambiguity: NNN nm" in the popup if station is using
ambiguity.
On Mobile, this trumps teh Ctr: and/or ME: lines in the station popup.

Lat/Lon grid on blank "map" screen if you fade the OSM to nothing it
displays 10 degree lines (Sailor Dave KO4MI)