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does the application have an instalation icon now?

Kevin Jensen <ktjensen@...>
 

Lynn,

Does the application have an installation icon now? I have a blank
little icon for the app, and was wondering if you picked something and
put it in the file during CAB install?

Also do you have an installation application for those who want to
sync WM6 with a desktop system?

Kevin
N1KCG-12


2009/11/05 Release Notes!

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Yes, there's another new release of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile. Mostly
this release is about fixing up some screen layout issues on different
shaped phones and phones with different font sizes. If you've had
screen layout issues, check this one out!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile


Here's what's new in APRSISCE6P091105.zip

Those that had screen layout and font size issues, give this version a
try and read #2 and #16.

1) Corrected a spontaneous exit issue if OSM Tile loading fails.

2) Support operator selection of Orientation via View/Map Menu. Options
are Automatic (what it originally
was), Wide (stuff at the top), or Narrow (stuff at the left). The
choice is recorded in the XML configuration
file and is used on restart. (For you XML hackers, the tag is
<Orientation> and 0=Narrow, 1=Wide, 2=Auto).

3) Support XML configuration of the toggle between Date and Time. The
originally coded value of 2367 is the
default. The value is which units digits of the seconds will display
the Date. To have only time displayed,
the value should be empty. To only display the date, the value should
be 0123456789. Get it?

4) Detect and track time-delayed duplicate track entries caused
(apparently) by KPC-3+ Digis in KISS mode.
These display as yellow squares in the tracks which no longer ping-pong
back and forth if the duplicate is
detected. Dupes are also counted and displayed in the station
Information window. Hopefully in the future
I'll be able to highlight the Digi and/or IGates that are causing the
delayed duplication.

5) Did some work with rejecting position updates that are too far away
or too fast of moving, but I still
don't like it so it mostly just complains into the .LOG file and accepts
the position update anyway...

6) Ability to filter what stations are displayed via a View menu
option. Choices are All (original and
default), Buddies (only those stations listed in a b/ in your filter),
Duplicates (only those stations with
detected duplicates), and Tracks (only stations that have moved). The
View filter is NOT recorded and reverts
back to all on a restart. There will be future additions to the filter
options.

7) Only treat a { in a message as the ack delimiter if it is within 6
characters of the end of the message.

8) Improve drawing performance of max-ed or min-ed colored bar charts
(empty rectangles).

9) Display local date/time when the GPS is disabled

10) Suppress Lookup and Message menu options for Objects

11) Added the ability to Retry or Abort a pending (non-acknowledged)
message. No auto-retry yet, though.

12) The map is no longer clipped to the circle but overflows and fills
between the other boxes. The circle is
still there to provide for a scale. Let me know what you think about
this change. I kind of like not wasting
the screen estate and seeing the stations outside the circle.

13) Satellite PRNs (numbers) are shown in a smaller font both in the
circle and at the bottom of the screen.
I can still read them on my phone, but I'm anxious to see if I made them
too small for some platforms.

14) Fix leaking GDI brush in painting the Pending Message window. This
would cause the client to lock up your
phone if you left it running for a LONG time.

15) The Win32 version of the client detects and complains about leaking
GDI resources (this is how I figured
out #14).

16) Made some MAJOR revisions in how the various information rectangles
are positioned during resizing.
Nearly all of it is based on fonts now, so those of you that had trouble
with the satellites at the bottom or
the stations on the left should see a HUGE improvement. Let me know
what you think. If you don't like one
layout, toggle the View/Map and try it the other way.

17) Warn if closing the client with non-acknowledged messages pending.

18) Ack indicators ({nnnnn) are removed from messages

19) Much improved and extended Platform detection using ToCalls

Completed ToDo from previous release:

Fix up fonts for VGA (640x480) devices (test with Noel W8TVI)

To Dos: (Incomplete)
Automatic, decaying retransmission of non-acked messages (start at 30+
seconds due to APRS-IS dupe checker)
Read message display (they disappear now once read)
Tile ager/purger - Critical now that you can center on other stations!
Parse and display Frequency object information
Parse, use, and transmit !DAO! (APRS PRECISION AND DATUM OPTION)
Support the -180/180 latitude wrap with closest display tile
Find a better icon scaling algorithm based on screen size & scale
Allow configuration of location for OSMTiles cache (w/o editing XML)
Allow configuration of date/time display & GMT vs local (Dave N8PU)
Allow configurable removal of some screen elements (Satellites, John N8JJ)
Pan (Drag) screen for browsing the map
Record/Recall last DNS/IP for OSM/APRS-IS (in config file, for
connecting without DNS)
Asynchronous TCP/IP connections & reading (solves hangs)
Timeout on OSM Tile fetcher (solves stalls)
Implement whatever results from the Zoom +/- Poll

Win32 client only for the following:
Simultaneously track multiple targets in separate circles
Support NMEA GPS

Extreme future:
Support KISS TNCs

Detect and highlight source of delayed duplications
Better speed/distance rejection algorithms
Additional View/Filter options based on symbol types
Auto-retry Pending Messages

Feed-through APRS-IS with local filters (for multiple instances of Win32
version with a single full feed to
APRS-IS).


New file uploaded to aprsisce

aprsisce@...
 

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New file uploaded to aprsisce

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Re: pda

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

I just edited the database settings so that group members can do anything. See if it works now when you have a chance.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS. It was previously set that Group Members could only add records...

David Shrum wrote:

I tried your link, "You are not a moderator of the group aprsisce."

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf
Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:21 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] pda

I've implemented this on an AT&T Tilt cell phone running Windows Mobile
6.1 (upgraded from 6.0). This is the same device as an HTC TYTN II,
I've been told.

There is a Database in the Yahoo group where you can put in your
callsign and the device on which you run the client as well. I think
it's open for editing, but I'm not positive.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce/database?method=reportRows&tbl=1

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

ashburtonrobin wrote:

Hi All,
Can anyone give me a recomendation for the devices that you are using.
There seems to be that many pda's for sale that i would like to get the
right one.

Cheers,
Robin ZL3REW


Re: pda

David Shrum
 

I tried your link, "You are not a moderator of the group aprsisce."

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf
Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:21 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] pda

I've implemented this on an AT&T Tilt cell phone running Windows Mobile
6.1 (upgraded from 6.0). This is the same device as an HTC TYTN II,
I've been told.

There is a Database in the Yahoo group where you can put in your
callsign and the device on which you run the client as well. I think
it's open for editing, but I'm not positive.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce/database?method=reportRows&tbl=1

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

ashburtonrobin wrote:
Hi All,
Can anyone give me a recomendation for the devices that you are using.
There seems to be that many pda's for sale that i would like to get the
right one.
Cheers,
Robin ZL3REW


Re: pda

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

I've implemented this on an AT&T Tilt cell phone running Windows Mobile
6.1 (upgraded from 6.0). This is the same device as an HTC TYTN II,
I've been told.

There is a Database in the Yahoo group where you can put in your
callsign and the device on which you run the client as well. I think
it's open for editing, but I'm not positive.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce/database?method=reportRows&tbl=1

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

ashburtonrobin wrote:

Hi All,
Can anyone give me a recomendation for the devices that you are using.
There seems to be that many pda's for sale that i would like to get the right one.
Cheers,
Robin ZL3REW


Re: pda

David Shrum
 

I would say about the main requirement is it needs to operate with the
Windows mobile operating system. I use a HTC Touch Pro. As soon as the
"Quick GPS" program can download good data which seems to be a problem in
the US since the DST change has screwed up the use of the built in GPS; but
that is a discussion for a different forum.

Dave N8PU

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf
Of ashburtonrobin
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:49 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] pda

Hi All,
Can anyone give me a recomendation for the devices that you are using.
There seems to be that many pda's for sale that i would like to get the
right one.
Cheers,
Robin ZL3REW


pda

ashburtonrobin <phonetech@...>
 

Hi All,
Can anyone give me a recomendation for the devices that you are using.
There seems to be that many pda's for sale that i would like to get the right one.
Cheers,
Robin ZL3REW


non-APRS tracking software

n1kcg <ktjensen@...>
 

Just wanted to share a non APRS tracking software link called TRACKME. Have used it once or twice.

http://www.luisespinosa.com/trackme_eng.html#S5


Couple of comments after about a month of off and on use

svkaereste <fritzejohn@...>
 

My phone, using the HTC Touch/Sprint unlimited plan CE6.1

Comments about when screen goes dark; does program keep running? On the Touch, the answer is YES. The screen goes dark to save battery but all applications keep running. Push the power switch and screen is back up, everything including GPS is working. I didn't need to change any settings for this on the Touch.

Texting is much faster using my phone, over the Kenwood D710 or similar. Even though I don't have a real key pad on this phone, using the stylus and the on screen typing keyboard is a breeze.

It is taking some time to get the local digi owners to change their settings to the internet to get full duplex with radio based APRSers but they are coming around once I show them this program.

BTW, I love the phone icon. It brings interesting coments from FindU users ;-) Especially since my message is my phone number.

Everyone I've shown this to is WOWed by it!

My only negative comment is that + and - which I guess you asked the group about (before I tried the program) works opposite from any GPS I've owned so I have to stop and think about which way to press. + should be for zooming in for more detail. But don't change it on my account ;-)

This latest version has a couple of neat additions.

Keep up the good work! Thanks again,73

John
K2QY


Red dots

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Jerome,

The red dot (there should only be one of them) indicates your projected position based on the most recent beacon that APRSISCE transmitted. The red dot isn't scaled to the map, but to the surrounding circle. In the Genius Beacon settings, there's a Forecast Error that defaults to 0.1 miles (1/10 mile). That distance is considered to the be radius of the circle. The red dot will range from the center towards the edge in the direction that your last beaconed heading and speed would place you. When the red dot hits the edge, if the Min Time has elapsed, a new beacon will be issued.

For instance, let's say your last beacon said you were going due East at 5 miles per hour. Right after that beacon, you increased your speed to 7 miles per hour. The red dot will start lagging to the west as you travel faster east than your last beacon would indicate. When the forecast lags by 1/10 mile, the dot will hit the left edge of the circle and a new beacon will be sent and the red dot will jump back to the center to be covered by your own icon.

If you turn slightly left or right, you will see the red dot slow start moving towards the edge as your current path veers away from where an extrapolated position would put you. Again, when it has seen an accumulated error of 1/10 mile (or whatever you have configured for the Forecast Error), a new beacon will be sent.

Hopefully that clarifies the mysterious red dot!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

PS. Sorry for the delay in answering this question. I received it while on vacation and am now clearing out that "ToDo" folder in my e-mail!

Jerome Lofton wrote:


Lynn,

Lynn what are the fast moving unmarked round red dots on the display?


Jerome Lofton, Jr.


Re: Constant DATA streaming?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

n1kcg wrote:
Lynn -
1) is the APRSIS-CE application constantly maintaining a DATA STREAM connectivity to the internet, via my data plan on my phone? In other words, while I am beaconing, do I have a connection via my data plan, that never disconnects?

Yes, for APRS-IS to function correctly by displaying all activity, a
constant TCP connection to the APRS-IS server is necessary. This is
true even if you are NOT beaconing. The incoming connection is
controlled by Enables/APRS-IS Enabled. The transmission of your current
location is a combination of GPS Enabled and Tracking Enabled.
Telemetry can also be independently enabled in the current version.
2) Or does APRSIS-CE make a connection,; send a beacon; and then disconnect?
This would be the equivalent of a transmit-only tracker and is not
supported by APRSISCE. The whole purpose of the client is to provide
visibility to what's around you as well as providing visibility of you
to others. That's why I recommend an unlimited data plan.
3) I assume that I need to have a constant functioning of my GPS circuit in my cellphone, in order for APRSIS-CE to work. Is that correct?
Sort of. In order to transmit your position, yes, you have to keep the
GPS enabled. However, to conserve battery life (the GPS eats more than
the data connection), I routinely disable my GPS (double-click on the
gps fix status box) when going indoors. This allows the client to keep
the current picture up-to-date with respect to others, but saves power
by not running the GPS when you're not significantly moving.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile


Check Windows Mobile GPS functions - use VisualGPSce

n1kcg <ktjensen@...>
 

I have a small free tool I use on my Sprint Mogul phone called VisualGPSce that works to display satellites and my gps position, via the built-in phone gps. Some might find it useful to supplement APRSIS-CE and make sure your gps is working.


Constant DATA streaming?

n1kcg <ktjensen@...>
 

Lynn -

1) is the APRSIS-CE application constantly maintaining a DATA STREAM connectivity to the internet, via my data plan on my phone? In other words, while I am beaconing, do I have a connection via my data plan, that never disconnects?

2) Or does APRSIS-CE make a connection,; send a beacon; and then disconnect?

3) I assume that I need to have a constant functioning of my GPS circuit in my cellphone, in order for APRSIS-CE to work. Is that correct?


Re: wake up from battery save mode

n1kcg <ktjensen@...>
 

understood. turning off the GPS is a application stopper also.

At least it is clear how this all seems to work under WM6. I tried the test again this afternoon. Activated APRDISCE and hit the ScreenOff button. everything kept working smoothly.

--- In aprsisce@..., "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Very good info and I'll give "ScreenOff" a try. I've been looking for
something like that.

One correction though. The power button doesn't suspend APRSISCE (at
least on my Tilt). It DOES shut off the GPS. I do this routinely when
I walk inside a building. The APRS-IS incoming stream continues to
operate as I've received APRS-IS messages after turning off the phone.
I know that beaconing stops because the GPS no longer reports a fix.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Kevin Jensen wrote:
Okay did further testing to find a way to run APRSISCE continuous, on
battery power only, and found:

1) Never, never, never hit the power button on your cellphone to
blank the screen. Even though in theory, the phone under WM6 should
keep the applications running in the background; instead it puts all
applications in SUSPEND, thus turning off applications. This is no
good for APRSISCE, as it turns it off. Even with the S2U2
application, and APRSISCE loaded as a excepted application to S2U2,
somehow APRSISCE goes into suspend.

2) Instead, to save on battery power, install the applications
"ScreenOff", and map a button to the application. This tool will just
turn the screen off, and do nothing else. Everything else on your WM6
phone will keep working. If you want the screen back on gain hit the
power on button for your phone, and the phone comes back on. Even the
data stream keeps running while the screen is blanked with ScreenOff.

3) Also would like to recommend the WM6 application "LvmTopBat" as it
will keep a thin battery power status bar at the top of every
application. This is great for watching the battery decrease in power
while running APRSISCE.

Just tried this all on my drive to work today. The whole trip was
beaconing and it all recorded and was displayed on a APRS.FI web page.
All while the phone was on battery power only, and the screen was
turned off. No issues for the 1/2 hour drive.


Re: wake up from battery save mode

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Very good info and I'll give "ScreenOff" a try. I've been looking for
something like that.

One correction though. The power button doesn't suspend APRSISCE (at
least on my Tilt). It DOES shut off the GPS. I do this routinely when
I walk inside a building. The APRS-IS incoming stream continues to
operate as I've received APRS-IS messages after turning off the phone.
I know that beaconing stops because the GPS no longer reports a fix.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Kevin Jensen wrote:

Okay did further testing to find a way to run APRSISCE continuous, on
battery power only, and found:

1) Never, never, never hit the power button on your cellphone to
blank the screen. Even though in theory, the phone under WM6 should
keep the applications running in the background; instead it puts all
applications in SUSPEND, thus turning off applications. This is no
good for APRSISCE, as it turns it off. Even with the S2U2
application, and APRSISCE loaded as a excepted application to S2U2,
somehow APRSISCE goes into suspend.

2) Instead, to save on battery power, install the applications
"ScreenOff", and map a button to the application. This tool will just
turn the screen off, and do nothing else. Everything else on your WM6
phone will keep working. If you want the screen back on gain hit the
power on button for your phone, and the phone comes back on. Even the
data stream keeps running while the screen is blanked with ScreenOff.

3) Also would like to recommend the WM6 application "LvmTopBat" as it
will keep a thin battery power status bar at the top of every
application. This is great for watching the battery decrease in power
while running APRSISCE.

Just tried this all on my drive to work today. The whole trip was
beaconing and it all recorded and was displayed on a APRS.FI web page.
All while the phone was on battery power only, and the screen was
turned off. No issues for the 1/2 hour drive.


Re: wake up from battery save mode

Kevin Jensen <ktjensen@...>
 

Okay did further testing to find a way to run APRSISCE continuous, on
battery power only, and found:

1) Never, never, never hit the power button on your cellphone to
blank the screen. Even though in theory, the phone under WM6 should
keep the applications running in the background; instead it puts all
applications in SUSPEND, thus turning off applications. This is no
good for APRSISCE, as it turns it off. Even with the S2U2
application, and APRSISCE loaded as a excepted application to S2U2,
somehow APRSISCE goes into suspend.

2) Instead, to save on battery power, install the applications
"ScreenOff", and map a button to the application. This tool will just
turn the screen off, and do nothing else. Everything else on your WM6
phone will keep working. If you want the screen back on gain hit the
power on button for your phone, and the phone comes back on. Even the
data stream keeps running while the screen is blanked with ScreenOff.

3) Also would like to recommend the WM6 application "LvmTopBat" as it
will keep a thin battery power status bar at the top of every
application. This is great for watching the battery decrease in power
while running APRSISCE.

Just tried this all on my drive to work today. The whole trip was
beaconing and it all recorded and was displayed on a APRS.FI web page.
All while the phone was on battery power only, and the screen was
turned off. No issues for the 1/2 hour drive.


Re: Breadcrumb tool - any better ones?

n1kcg <ktjensen@...>
 

the aprs.fi tool seems to do a pretty good job. just had to tweak it some.

--- In aprsisce@..., "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

This one's pretty neat showing our drive to Miami from home...

http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net.nyud.net/Tracking/CostaRica/KJ4ERJ-12-2009-03-23T07.52.29-2009-03-23T12.22.00-10.png

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

n1kcg wrote:
Here is a breadcrumb tool to see the point beaconed while you drive. all printed on a map.

http://www.reng.ca/map/aprs.php

But is there something that is better for a tool?





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Re: wake up from battery save mode

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Thanks for doing the research! Please keep us posted, I'm sure it will
interest all of us. I'm especially interested for when I go mobile
walking without my normal external charger pack to keep the phone happy
for 6-8 hours.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

n1kcg wrote:

Did some more testing of the configuration on my WM6 cellphone. Right mow am leaning towards useing the application S2U2 as a power saver and sleep tool; while using APRSISCE. The latest version of S2U2 has an exceptions list. If I put APRSISCE on the exceptions list the S2U2 will never start in, and APRSISCE keeps running regardless of battery power levels.

Of course all battery power saver startup routines are disabled at all times now. Will keep investigating.




--- In aprsisce@..., "ae5pl" <pete@...> wrote:

I am wondering if there is a way to keep the application active even in battery saver mode... There are some apps that seem to run regardless (Bing, Google Maps, ActiveSync, etc. I would be very interested if there is a way to "mark" the app as always active. I will do some looking through my development stuff on this as well.

73,

Pete AE5PL

--- In aprsisce@..., "n1kcg" <ktjensen@> wrote:

Lynn - thanks for a great application. I am looking for some kind of utility that would wake up the phone from battery saver mode, to allow a beacon of my position.

since phones naturally want to go to battery save mode, there must be some application that will bring my data connection up, activate aprsisce and then put the phone back to sleep. maybe once every five, ten or twenty minutes; assuming i am on battery power,and assuming i have a data connection.

alternatively, wondering if the aprs protocol would allow a mobile station to record its position versus time; and then upload the data when a data connection is re-established. does aprs protocol allow that?