Date   

Igates and their use of digi paths

Justin Cherington
 

I’m trying to wrap my head around two way igates and if they generally use digi paths to increase their IS to RF ranges. In the SW we generally have igates in the cities/towns and wide area digi’s in the mountains. 


As a two way igate, if a station 80 miles away (easily just one hop) transmits a message and I gate it, how do I get the response back to that station when the recipient replies? In APRSIS32, I set the filter to let’s say 20 miles because that’s my direct range.  But that seems to be a disservice to the stations 80 miles away using digi’s, and I’m the closest igate to them. 


Am I missing something? I don’t want to increase qrm needlessly, but the hikers, hunters, and off roaders need love too. Thanks! 


Re: Kenwood D710A running APRSIS32 on Windows 10 tablet with serial to bluetooth adapter

Gil
 

It does sound as if you've had your challenges.  My setup is not uncomplicated but I've made it as tidy and neat as I can without going totally "wireless".  I do have the ability to use my D710A for Winlink.  There's a setup predetermined for that radio in Winlink and I just used that, dialed up the nearest gateway station and it worked.  Obviously it's not doing APRS at the same time - but my FTM-400 can run in APRS mode at the same time if necessary.

Here are a few more of the components I used for my arrangement:

This is the hub I got that also allows power to be fed to the Surface Go:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QXMNF1X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use one USB port for the connection to the D710A Control head with the PG-5 (?) cable and a serial to USB adapter.  Another USB port is used for the USB powered GPS receiver I use for the Surface Go.  The last port is used for the FTM-400XDR connection to the Surface Go for when I use that at the APRS radio with APRSIS32.  I got another el cheapo "regular" hub I can piggyback onto one of those ports to get a few more ports if necessary.

This is the mobile power supply I got to feed power to that hub:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003FOOY32/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I was tempted to cut off the cigarette lighter plug and use Anderson Power Pole connectors but I didn't want to circumvent the fuse in the plug so I had to use an inline cigarette lighter socket with a Power Pole cord to feed that power supply.  I guess I could have put a Power Pole inline fuse into its power feed, but I already had the other parts.  I try to keep everything set up with Power Pole connectors.

I used two of these as the "disconnects" for the wiring to the vehicle battery (which is additionally fused at the battery) and for the wiring to the "radio" battery (which is also fused at the battery terminals - it's a big deep-discharge marine battery) that is hooked to a West Mountain Radio ISOPower+ isolation device.  That cut down on some control wiring.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P4DZ2JT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The "radio" battery is in the back.  I was never quite sure how well the isolator gadget was working regarding charging that battery so I found one of these to keep an eye on it with my phone.  I would have preferred a Windows application, but I have to settle for my phone.:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WCW49YM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I keep an eye on the engine electrical system voltage with one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0773BYS6P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yes, this all added up to a tidy sum, but I wanted to try to do this installation as well as I could.  It will serve me for many years.  I still have my other 15-year old vehicle from which I learned a lot about installing radios.  I plan to keep this one as long as possible too, so the cost will be spread out over many years.  I only get to do this infrequently...

Gil, WB2UTI




Re: Kenwood D710A running APRSIS32 on Windows 10 tablet with serial to bluetooth adapter

Anthony Mascola
 

Hi Gil,
Thanks for sharing your setup.  I really like it.  I purchased a used Toshiba Encore WT8-A32 on eBay as it was the only Windows 10 tablet that I could find that had a built in GPS receiver.  It turns out however that getting the GPS feed from the tablet and Windows is quite challenging and it has not been very useful and I wouldn't recommend this idea to others at least from my limited experience.  I had hoped to minimize wires and klunkiness and have as clean a setup as possible so that I might be able to remove the tablet from the vehicle and still use it with various mapping software but it has been an elusive goal.  I can only use the internal GPS receiver with the Windows Maps app but other software such as Terrain Navigator Pro can't find the GPS feed even with creating a virtual serial port to output this data. I have to use the K6VHF GPS unit attached to the D710 with APRSIS32.  Unfortunately SARTrack can't even utilize the K6VHF GPS feed and requires a separate external serial GPS unit which I am still in need of acquiring and klunkiness and wires and time and expense galore have been the bane of my efforts to date.

The tablet was inexpensive and appeared promising initially but the above limitations I ran into with Windows 10 and the internal GPS data not being easily acceptable for other software plus the limitations of the single USB micro-B connector for charging and data communications has proven challenging.  It is a little tricky I have found to use the tablet as it requires a special custom Y cable to trick the computer into allowing data exchange and power at the same time.  The USB-C connector seems to have a lot of advantages over the micro USB port in this regard.  I had a problem where I wore out the first micro USB port from removing and inserting the cable repeatedly and tried to repair it and ended up having to replace the entire tablet with another one on eBay as I was unable to repair it and also incurred damage due to non sine wave AC power from the power supply plugged into the inverter described below.  Your setup with the magnetic connector is very good.  

Getting the US Converters Blutronium configured properly is also still elusive and has consumed dozens of hours of time and despite numerous exchanges with the manufacturer, I have yet to get it running consistently with Winlink Express.  I can get it running intermittently with APRSIS32 but I can't count on it.  I have given up on this for the time being as I just don't have time to keep trying and have been using the RT systems serial to USB connector.  The USB to serial cable introduces a challenge with the tablet above as the connector itself requires power to enable it to function and the special Y cable to connect it all which is also somewhat finicky.  The power required to charge the tablet is greater than the 0.5A that is typical for a USB port and requires a more significant power supply.  If I plug the tablet into the inverter built into the Jeep with a AC to DC wall wart type of power supply I have encountered damage to the motherboard possibly because the inverter is not a pure sine wave output.  This was another factor leading to my needing to replace the first tablet and I have run it off of a power bank since that time.

I post this to assist others in being aware that though this would appear to be a straightforward project, but at least for me it has been quite challenging and at times very frustrating.  I think the Microsoft Surface or other tablet with a USB C connector and hub and USB to serial cables would be the way to go.  If anyone out there has ever been successful in getting a Windows tablet and bluetooth to serial connector running with APRSIS32 and other software such as SARTrack or Winlink Express I would love to know how you configured this with the Kenwood D710. 

t would be nice to see how other persons are running a Windows tablet in their vehicles.  Despite the klunkiness and time and frustration above, I love being able to send Winlink packet and email and use APRS on the beautiful color screen of the tablet and also to have the tablet to program the transceiver and use the internet for general computing use when in cell range.   it would be nice to share ideas on how to streamline this process for others.  So far I like your setup the best Gil of all that I have heard about. 


Re: Kenwood D710A running APRSIS32 on Windows 10 tablet with serial to bluetooth adapter

Gil
 

I've been dealing with a somewhat similar problem.  I have a Microsoft Surface Go Windows 10 "tablet" in my new vehicle.  I finally found a way to "install" it so that it's visible for use and connected to my radios, but removable when not in use.  I didn't go the Bluetooth route although I considered it, but I'm not savvy enough to pull that off.  It only has ONE type-C USB port on it.  It also has a charging port for its somewhat proprietary charger configuration.  I wanted to be able to connect my D710A and a separate GPS receiver to the computer (I also have a Yaesu FTM-400XDR that's connected to it also).  I didn't really want to have to come up with a power source to connect to the charging port on the computer.  I discovered that the "new" computers like this can do all sorts of things via that USB port.  In particular, with the right USB hub, I can connect three USB devices AND an external power supply and it will communicate with all those devices and charge the computer's battery (full-blast, not a trickle charge) through that one single USB port ("USB Power Delivery").  Who knew?  I certainly didn't.  I still have to use a serial to USB adapter on the cable from the D710A, but all that extra stuff is hidden under the front seat.

So then the issue became how to get the computer in and out easily without wearing out the USB port.  I found a magnetically-coupled USB-C connector (right angle, no less) that simply uncouples the one and only connection when I want to remove the computer. (https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Adapter-Connector-Transfer-Compatible/dp/B07TT6NGBC/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-p13n1_0?cv_ct_cx=magnetic+usb+connector&dchild=1&keywords=magnetic+usb+connector&pd_rd_i=B07TT6NGBC&pd_rd_r=94dcae33-42b7-4b0c-8698-2b71c4fa3a4b&pd_rd_w=3HAPK&pd_rd_wg=QUe6u&pf_rd_p=1da5beeb-8f71-435c-b5c5-3279a6171294&pf_rd_r=7V7DHKG861TGQWYY3592&psc=1&qid=1591821940&sr=1-1-70f7c15d-07d8-466a-b325-4be35d7258cc)

There was one problem I had not counted on.  If I left the computer connected in the vehicle in my garage overnight, the computer's battery would be significantly depleted by the next day.  I discovered that the "turned-off" computer was powering the USB GPS receiver when the external power source was turned off.  Shutting off the computer with its default power settings would not shut off the power to the USB port.  An internet search had me check what the power button does in Windows 10.  It has to really shut it off and not just put it to sleep.  Now it really shuts everything off when I turn it off.

I know this doesn't directly address your problem, but I thought it might give you some alternative ideas...

Gil, WB2UTI


Re: Remembering Settings Across Restart

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

IIRC, (it's been a long time since I wrote this particular code), when a windows is maximized or minimized, the Win32 API to get the window position and size returns some really weird numbers. Rather than remember these and have to deal with them on the restart, I simply don't change the remembered windows parameters if the client is closed while maximized or minimized.

Unfortunately, the View settings for the window(s) (including MultiTracks) are attached to the size and position when they are saved resulting in the View settings also not being saved and restored if a client is closed while maximized or minimized.

One of these days (weeks?  months?  years?) I may revisit this issue but every time I think about it I remember the "weight of the installed base".  Doing such a change such that it is backward-compatible (new code honors old saved values), I anticipate being tricky.  But some day I might get inspired to joust with that particular dragon (or tickle it's tail: see definition 3 from https://tinyurl.com/ydfnzs3s)

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/9/2020 7:32 PM, Jeff wrote:
Lynn,

In the past I have seen the limitation of APRSIS32 not being able to save settings when maximized. I've never asked, and apologize if it has been explained before, but I was just wondering the reason for that limitation. Is it a "Windows" thing, or something else?

Thanks for all you do to support and improve this software!

73,
Jeff
N5TEV



Re: Remembering Settings Across Restart

Jeff
 

Lynn,

In the past I have seen the limitation of APRSIS32 not being able to save settings when maximized. I've never asked, and apologize if it has been explained before, but I was just wondering the reason for that limitation. Is it a "Windows" thing, or something else?

Thanks for all you do to support and improve this software!

73,
Jeff
N5TEV


Re: Remembering Settings Across Restart

Gil
 

Thanks, Lynn.

I've been playing a bit since I asked about this and I've seen what you're talking about.  I can live with that.  It starts with what I want and I just maximize it.  It restarts with what I want then, too.

Got it.  Thanks.

And, as always, please know how appreciated you are for developing this amazing software.

Gil, WB2UTI


Re: Remembering Settings Across Restart

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Make sure the application is NOT maximized when you close it and the settings will be remembered.  If you want it large, then size it large, but not maximized, and then close it.  It should re-open from then on (until you close it in some other size) that way.

The same applies to your View selections because they are actually stored with the screen size.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/9/2020 5:07 PM, Gil wrote:
Did the issue of not remembering screen (and other) settings across a restart ever get resolved?  I tried to find information in the messages, but all I found was people asking about it and finding out that they couldn't expect them to be saved if the screen was maximized when exiting.  I'm certainly experiencing that issue and I'd sure like to know if I'm doing something wrong.  The screen always starts minimized with the wrong map.  One of my versions has "View All" turned off upon restart and it takes me a while to remember why I'm not seeing any stations on the map.

Can I edit the .xml file to set the parameters I want when starting?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Gil Chapin, WB2UTI


Remembering Settings Across Restart

Gil
 

Did the issue of not remembering screen (and other) settings across a restart ever get resolved?  I tried to find information in the messages, but all I found was people asking about it and finding out that they couldn't expect them to be saved if the screen was maximized when exiting.  I'm certainly experiencing that issue and I'd sure like to know if I'm doing something wrong.  The screen always starts minimized with the wrong map.  One of my versions has "View All" turned off upon restart and it takes me a while to remember why I'm not seeing any stations on the map.

Can I edit the .xml file to set the parameters I want when starting?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Gil Chapin, WB2UTI


Re: LS-* objects near CLAYTN digipeater

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Actually, with the qAC(WG3K-NJ), I think it went via RF and back into the APRS-IS.  If this is an RF station of your's, then hopefully Enables / Ports / Log All is checked and there should be a *.PKT file in the APRSIS32 directory with a copy of all the RF-received packets.  Can you check in there for any LS-FN* objects?

The report was for FN20*, but this one is probably close enough in FN42.  I can't believe there'd be more than one IGate pushing them through to RF.

BTW, for anyone considering this, the SZ-* objects are much fewer and update slightly less often than the LS-* individual (and grouped) strikes.  SZ-* (Strike Zone) only go to 4 character gridsquare while LS-* (Lightning Strike) go down to 6 character gridsquare and change their overlay depending on how many strikes are in that square.  The SZ will move around showing the centroid of the strikes within the larger square.  The comment should show the total number of strikes in the last 10 minutes within the square as well.  At least, I think that's the way it works from memory.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/3/2020 9:05 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:

Never mind, this may be one of the Firenet servers which I am connected to.

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 8:56 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] LS-* objects near CLAYTN digipeater

 

I saw this in Massachusetts. Is it helpful?

 

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 2:53 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: [APRSISCE] LS-* objects near CLAYTN digipeater

 

Is there any APRSIS32 user operating an RF station near the CLAYTN

digipeater in New Jersey (https://aprs.fi/#!call=CLAYTN)?

 

I received a report from KD2EIB that he is seeing my LS-* lightning

strike objects on his RF-ONLY FTM-400.  I'd like to track down the

source of these objects on their local RF.  Some IGate operator within

digipeater path coverage must be gating these objects from firenet to RF.

 

If anyone happens to have a capture of packets from RF from earlier

today, I'd like to know if any LS-* objects show up. They'll likely

(hopefully, at least) be third party packets transmitted by some nearby

IGate.  That IGate operator needs to be contacted and realize that

gating a potentially 100s of megabit pipe onto a 1200 baud pipe is not a

good idea!

 

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

 

 

 

 

 


Avast logo

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com




Re: LS-* objects near CLAYTN digipeater

Fred Hillhouse
 

Never mind, this may be one of the Firenet servers which I am connected to.

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 8:56 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] LS-* objects near CLAYTN digipeater

 

I saw this in Massachusetts. Is it helpful?

 

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 2:53 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: [APRSISCE] LS-* objects near CLAYTN digipeater

 

Is there any APRSIS32 user operating an RF station near the CLAYTN

digipeater in New Jersey (https://aprs.fi/#!call=CLAYTN)?

 

I received a report from KD2EIB that he is seeing my LS-* lightning

strike objects on his RF-ONLY FTM-400.  I'd like to track down the

source of these objects on their local RF.  Some IGate operator within

digipeater path coverage must be gating these objects from firenet to RF.

 

If anyone happens to have a capture of packets from RF from earlier

today, I'd like to know if any LS-* objects show up. They'll likely

(hopefully, at least) be third party packets transmitted by some nearby

IGate.  That IGate operator needs to be contacted and realize that

gating a potentially 100s of megabit pipe onto a 1200 baud pipe is not a

good idea!

 

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

 

 

 

 

 


Avast logo

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com




Re: LS-* objects near CLAYTN digipeater

Fred Hillhouse
 

I saw this in Massachusetts. Is it helpful?

 

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 2:53 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: [APRSISCE] LS-* objects near CLAYTN digipeater

 

Is there any APRSIS32 user operating an RF station near the CLAYTN

digipeater in New Jersey (https://aprs.fi/#!call=CLAYTN)?

 

I received a report from KD2EIB that he is seeing my LS-* lightning

strike objects on his RF-ONLY FTM-400.  I'd like to track down the

source of these objects on their local RF.  Some IGate operator within

digipeater path coverage must be gating these objects from firenet to RF.

 

If anyone happens to have a capture of packets from RF from earlier

today, I'd like to know if any LS-* objects show up. They'll likely

(hopefully, at least) be third party packets transmitted by some nearby

IGate.  That IGate operator needs to be contacted and realize that

gating a potentially 100s of megabit pipe onto a 1200 baud pipe is not a

good idea!

 

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

 

 

 




Avast logo

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com



LS-* objects near CLAYTN digipeater

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Is there any APRSIS32 user operating an RF station near the CLAYTN digipeater in New Jersey (https://aprs.fi/#!call=CLAYTN)?

I received a report from KD2EIB that he is seeing my LS-* lightning strike objects on his RF-ONLY FTM-400.  I'd like to track down the source of these objects on their local RF.  Some IGate operator within digipeater path coverage must be gating these objects from firenet to RF.

If anyone happens to have a capture of packets from RF from earlier today, I'd like to know if any LS-* objects show up. They'll likely (hopefully, at least) be third party packets transmitted by some nearby IGate.  That IGate operator needs to be contacted and realize that gating a potentially 100s of megabit pipe onto a 1200 baud pipe is not a good idea!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Re: Message > Email

Don Poaps
 

Old eyes and fat fingers.

73

Thank you

Don va7dgp/va7qu

On Wed., Jun. 3, 2020, 9:41 a.m. Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Look closely at your second attempt.  You had gmail <comma> com, not gmail <dot> com.

I just sent a second test to your @winlink.org e-mail address. It may be that winlink is blocking the EMAIL-2 sending address or something?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/3/2020 11:31 AM, Don Poaps wrote:
Weird. I realize my typo in the first attempt. Corrected email address. I tried yours went through. I then tried a fellow ham and it went through. Not sure why my original 2 attempts crashed with the corrected email. It works. We have been doing a Zoom demonstration of using APRS messaging of the various parts.  Bringing renewed  interest locally. 

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 8:23 AM Don Poaps <va7dgp@...> wrote:
I did your steps but used a ISP email. Not a Winlink email.

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:22 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Can you tell me the steps you took to get that error?  I just sent a test e-mail from my APRSIS32 (KJ4ERJ-AP) to you via EMAIL-2 and it worked as designed.

Messages / Send EMail...

Paste in or select the destination e-mail address (I used your's)

Enter a SHORT text in that box

Click Send.

A new QSO will open between EMAIL-2 and your station's callsign-SSID.  Mine says:

10:18:29  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and KJ4ERJ-AP on 2020-06-03
10:18:22> Email sent to va7qu@...

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/3/2020 10:02 AM, Don Poaps wrote:
6:52:30  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and VA7DGP on 2020-06-03
06:52:0 Invalid Request!



I imagine that info on this web page is hardcoded in APRSIS. I know wlnk-1 works

73

Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           






                    






  




 


Re: Message > Email

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Look closely at your second attempt.  You had gmail <comma> com, not gmail <dot> com.

I just sent a second test to your @winlink.org e-mail address. It may be that winlink is blocking the EMAIL-2 sending address or something?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/3/2020 11:31 AM, Don Poaps wrote:
Weird. I realize my typo in the first attempt. Corrected email address. I tried yours went through. I then tried a fellow ham and it went through. Not sure why my original 2 attempts crashed with the corrected email. It works. We have been doing a Zoom demonstration of using APRS messaging of the various parts.  Bringing renewed  interest locally. 

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 8:23 AM Don Poaps <va7dgp@...> wrote:
I did your steps but used a ISP email. Not a Winlink email.

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:22 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Can you tell me the steps you took to get that error?  I just sent a test e-mail from my APRSIS32 (KJ4ERJ-AP) to you via EMAIL-2 and it worked as designed.

Messages / Send EMail...

Paste in or select the destination e-mail address (I used your's)

Enter a SHORT text in that box

Click Send.

A new QSO will open between EMAIL-2 and your station's callsign-SSID.  Mine says:

10:18:29  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and KJ4ERJ-AP on 2020-06-03
10:18:22> Email sent to va7qu@...

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/3/2020 10:02 AM, Don Poaps wrote:
6:52:30  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and VA7DGP on 2020-06-03
06:52:0 Invalid Request!



I imagine that info on this web page is hardcoded in APRSIS. I know wlnk-1 works

73

Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



image.png


                    
image.jpeg


image.jpeg


  




 


Re: Message > Email

Don Poaps
 

Weird. I realize my typo in the first attempt. Corrected email address. I tried yours went through. I then tried a fellow ham and it went through. Not sure why my original 2 attempts crashed with the corrected email. It works. We have been doing a Zoom demonstration of using APRS messaging of the various parts.  Bringing renewed  interest locally. 

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 8:23 AM Don Poaps <va7dgp@...> wrote:
I did your steps but used a ISP email. Not a Winlink email.

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:22 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Can you tell me the steps you took to get that error?  I just sent a test e-mail from my APRSIS32 (KJ4ERJ-AP) to you via EMAIL-2 and it worked as designed.

Messages / Send EMail...

Paste in or select the destination e-mail address (I used your's)

Enter a SHORT text in that box

Click Send.

A new QSO will open between EMAIL-2 and your station's callsign-SSID.  Mine says:

10:18:29  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and KJ4ERJ-AP on 2020-06-03
10:18:22> Email sent to va7qu@...

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/3/2020 10:02 AM, Don Poaps wrote:
6:52:30  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and VA7DGP on 2020-06-03
06:52:0 Invalid Request!



I imagine that info on this web page is hardcoded in APRSIS. I know wlnk-1 works

73

Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



image.png


                    
image.jpeg


image.jpeg


  




 


Re: Message > Email

Don Poaps
 

I did your steps but used a ISP email. Not a Winlink email.

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:22 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Can you tell me the steps you took to get that error?  I just sent a test e-mail from my APRSIS32 (KJ4ERJ-AP) to you via EMAIL-2 and it worked as designed.

Messages / Send EMail...

Paste in or select the destination e-mail address (I used your's)

Enter a SHORT text in that box

Click Send.

A new QSO will open between EMAIL-2 and your station's callsign-SSID.  Mine says:

10:18:29  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and KJ4ERJ-AP on 2020-06-03
10:18:22> Email sent to va7qu@...

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/3/2020 10:02 AM, Don Poaps wrote:
6:52:30  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and VA7DGP on 2020-06-03
06:52:0 Invalid Request!



I imagine that info on this web page is hardcoded in APRSIS. I know wlnk-1 works

73

Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



image.png


                    
image.jpeg


image.jpeg


  




 


Re: Message > Email

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

According to what I see in your raw packets at aprs.fi, you didn't use a properly formed e-mail address:

2020-06-03 09:52:00 EDT: VA7DGP>APWW11,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAO,VA7ITJ-10::EMAIL-2  :va7kmg@gmail Good Zoom chat last night{PY}
2020-06-03 09:52:09 EDT: VA7DGP>APWW11,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAO,VA7ITJ-10::EMAIL-2  :ack96}PY
2020-06-03 09:57:43 EDT: VA7DGP>APWW11,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAO,VA7ITJ-10::EMAIL-2  :va7kmg@gmail,com Great Zoom chat{PZ}96
2020-06-03 09:57:51 EDT: VA7DGP>APWW11,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,CHURCH::EMAIL-2  :ack97}PZ
2020-06-03 10:00:58 EDT: VA7DGP>APWW11,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAO,VA7ITJ-10:@140055h4912.03N/12257.24WlAPRS-IS for Win32

The first attempt was simply "@gmail" which is invalid.

The second attempt was "@gmail,com" with a comma where a dot should be.

So of course EMAIL-2's response was not success:

2020-06-03 09:52:01 EDT: EMAIL-2>APJIE4,TCPIP*,qAC,AE5PL-JF::VA7DGP   :Invalid Request!{96}PY
2020-06-03 09:57:44 EDT: EMAIL-2>APJIE4,TCPIP*,qAC,AE5PL-JF::VA7DGP   :Invalid Request!{97}PZ
2020-06-03 10:18:22 EDT: EMAIL-2>APJIE4,TCPIP*,qAC,AE5PL-JF::KJ4ERJ-AP:Email sent to va7qu@...{XN}EC

Try it again with a proper e-mail address and it should work for you as it did for me.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/3/2020 10:02 AM, Don Poaps wrote:
6:52:30  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and VA7DGP on 2020-06-03
06:52:0 Invalid Request!



I imagine that info on this web page is hardcoded in APRSIS. I know wlnk-1 works

73

Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



image.png


                    
image.jpeg


image.jpeg


  




 


Re: Message > Email

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Can you tell me the steps you took to get that error?  I just sent a test e-mail from my APRSIS32 (KJ4ERJ-AP) to you via EMAIL-2 and it worked as designed.

Messages / Send EMail...

Paste in or select the destination e-mail address (I used your's)

Enter a SHORT text in that box

Click Send.

A new QSO will open between EMAIL-2 and your station's callsign-SSID.  Mine says:

10:18:29  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and KJ4ERJ-AP on 2020-06-03
10:18:22> Email sent to va7qu@...

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/3/2020 10:02 AM, Don Poaps wrote:
6:52:30  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and VA7DGP on 2020-06-03
06:52:0 Invalid Request!



I imagine that info on this web page is hardcoded in APRSIS. I know wlnk-1 works

73

Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



image.png


                    
image.jpeg


image.jpeg


  




 


Message > Email

Don Poaps
 

6:52:30  New Chat Between EMAIL-2 and VA7DGP on 2020-06-03
06:52:0 Invalid Request!



I imagine that info on this web page is hardcoded in APRSIS. I know wlnk-1 works

73

Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



image.png


                    
image.jpeg


image.jpeg