Date   

Re: Google Maps to GPX

Fred Hillhouse
 

For a while mapstogpx did not work. It was after one of the big Google map changes. I am glad it is working again. I have tried other methods and some were better than others. I quickly made a collection of tracks that covered a few was to a destination.

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Leeds
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 9:17 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Google Maps to GPX

 

I've used it a lot.� Did some mapping for Amtrak routes that my wife and I will do with APRSIS32 once this virus thing gets more under control.� Its good when you only need routes as defined by Google Maps.

Another one I have used was www.mapmyride.com.� I paid for the low range offering to support, but it's pluses were when you need to change from roads or documented pathways to say through a fence gate or using a foot path, you are able to change the tool that documents that and then you can output as a GPX with no hand editing the file.� Used for a number of bike and marathons here and again with APRSIS32. (No affiliation just the one I came across that worked for what I needed)

Cheers and 73,
Stan, KC7EHJ

 

On 7/13/2020 6:17 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:

Greetings,

�

It has been a while since I tried converting a Google Maps travel solution to GPX. I just tried it and had success. It has never been simpler!

�

https://mapstogpx.com/

�

Give it a shot!

�

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 


Avast logo

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com




Re: Google Maps to GPX

Min
 

Hi Fred

 

Thanks for the link and will try it but I normally use Basecamp for any mapping and routes, motor biking(motorcycling) or car.

With the controls that BC has a true time for the setup but doesn’t have the road closure at that time….

I’ll try anything once J….

 

I’m an active user of Google and used to use MyRoute APP when it Tyre to Travel and wondered why a route would not work (The road through the Alps was closed due to rock fall) making it a 120 km reroute !!! Google intelligence at the time but since they started charging up to the minute planning has gone from some routing websites.

 

So plan it on BC and then check on Google for road works and closure nearer the time.

 

My routes taken are then put into BC and it’s worrying the information available to you and others!!!!!!

 

Min G0JMS

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
Sent: 13 July 2020 23:17
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: [APRSISCE] Google Maps to GPX

 

Greetings,

 

It has been a while since I tried converting a Google Maps travel solution to GPX. I just tried it and had success. It has never been simpler!

 

https://mapstogpx.com/

 

Give it a shot!

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 


Avast logo

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com




Re: Google Maps to GPX

Stan Leeds <srkleeds@...>
 

I've used it a lot.� Did some mapping for Amtrak routes that my wife and I will do with APRSIS32 once this virus thing gets more under control.� Its good when you only need routes as defined by Google Maps.

Another one I have used was www.mapmyride.com.� I paid for the low range offering to support, but it's pluses were when you need to change from roads or documented pathways to say through a fence gate or using a foot path, you are able to change the tool that documents that and then you can output as a GPX with no hand editing the file.� Used for a number of bike and marathons here and again with APRSIS32. (No affiliation just the one I came across that worked for what I needed)

Cheers and 73,
Stan, KC7EHJ

On 7/13/2020 6:17 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:

Greetings,

�

It has been a while since I tried converting a Google Maps travel solution to GPX. I just tried it and had success. It has never been simpler!

�

https://mapstogpx.com/

�

Give it a shot!

�

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH




Avast logo

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com



Google Maps to GPX

Fred Hillhouse
 

Greetings,

 

It has been a while since I tried converting a Google Maps travel solution to GPX. I just tried it and had success. It has never been simpler!

 

https://mapstogpx.com/

 

Give it a shot!

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH




Avast logo

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com



Re: Passcode request (posted to main group)

Rob Giuliano
 

He has been sending emails direct to me and I have tried to cross post, but his replies always come back to me alone.
It appears he has moved on to a different client.  He didn't say which.

I did ask him to check the folder that he ran APRSIS32.exe from, to see if there is an APRSIS32.xml file in it.
I am pretty sure I tried this from work (with restricted internet access allowing no maps), it created the xml, but left the screen blank (no map).

If there was na XML but no OSMTiles folder, I would guess #1.
No XML, and it was definitely run from within the zip.

I just don't know if he will take the time to look.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 8:33:25 PM EDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:


You can download the .ZIP file to anywhere.  It is critically important, however, that you UNZIP the contents into a newly-created, empty, and not protected (like not under Program Files) directory.  Then make sure you execute APRSIS32.EXE from within that newly created directory.

By placing the .ZIP into the directory where you unzipped it, it is still possible that you double-clicked a folder view of the .ZIP and not the unzipped .EXE file.

The behavior you are describing may be Rob's first issue, but it certainly describes what you see when you double-click a .ZIP view.

Try going to the following URL and see if you get a map tile.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/5/2020 6:43 PM, Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
Cross posting to the APRSIS32 group.

That sounds like 2 possibilities:
1. having an issue connectin to the internet (port blockled) and you can't download maps
    I know I can't download maps when I am at work - it is blocked.
2. the folder access for either the APRSIS32.xml or maps

Is there an APRSIS32.XML file in the folder you tried installing it into?
You can attach that and maybe there will be a clue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

PS: Please reply to all to post to the APRSIS32 groips.io board.


On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 5:28:45 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Robert, thank you for emailing me back.

After downloading the zip file to the C drive into its own folder,(not under programs) I unzipped the file. It required me to insert my call sign and the pass code you gave me.

After entering this I was expecting the map to show up for me to enter my location, as shown by the video? All that would show up was a white box across my screen a half inch wide 6 inchess long with a small blue square flashing on and off.

I tried many times and gave up.

David va3dpg

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:44 PM Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:
I don't remember seeing another post, or I deleted the update and not the original.
Did you ever get this working?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 9:14:12 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


When starting the exe file you are required to enter call sign and ssid, and enter. That’s is as far as I can get


On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

I am not sure what you are referring to with"Filled the required fields on start up.  Aprsis32 no responding message?"
What are you expecting?

Are you getting stations in the scroll bar (left side) that are coming in from APRS-IS?

You can check your status by enabling logging
  >Menu >Enables >logging >Port(APRSIS)
This will allow you to see the interaction with the APRS-IS server.

If you disable APRS-IS and re-enable the port with logging, you can see if there are any errors

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 6:35:27 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Thanks for the code. Filled the required fields on start up. Aprsis32 no responding message?


On Jul 2, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

<passcode info removed>


On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 5:14:43 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Please provide a passcode for David George call sign VA3DPG.

Thank you.


Re: Passcode request (posted to main group)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

You can download the .ZIP file to anywhere.  It is critically important, however, that you UNZIP the contents into a newly-created, empty, and not protected (like not under Program Files) directory.  Then make sure you execute APRSIS32.EXE from within that newly created directory.

By placing the .ZIP into the directory where you unzipped it, it is still possible that you double-clicked a folder view of the .ZIP and not the unzipped .EXE file.

The behavior you are describing may be Rob's first issue, but it certainly describes what you see when you double-click a .ZIP view.

Try going to the following URL and see if you get a map tile.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/5/2020 6:43 PM, Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
Cross posting to the APRSIS32 group.

That sounds like 2 possibilities:
1. having an issue connectin to the internet (port blockled) and you can't download maps
    I know I can't download maps when I am at work - it is blocked.
2. the folder access for either the APRSIS32.xml or maps

Is there an APRSIS32.XML file in the folder you tried installing it into?
You can attach that and maybe there will be a clue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

PS: Please reply to all to post to the APRSIS32 groips.io board.


On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 5:28:45 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Robert, thank you for emailing me back.

After downloading the zip file to the C drive into its own folder,(not under programs) I unzipped the file. It required me to insert my call sign and the pass code you gave me.

After entering this I was expecting the map to show up for me to enter my location, as shown by the video? All that would show up was a white box across my screen a half inch wide 6 inchess long with a small blue square flashing on and off.

I tried many times and gave up.

David va3dpg

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:44 PM Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:
I don't remember seeing another post, or I deleted the update and not the original.
Did you ever get this working?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 9:14:12 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


When starting the exe file you are required to enter call sign and ssid, and enter. That’s is as far as I can get


On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

I am not sure what you are referring to with"Filled the required fields on start up.  Aprsis32 no responding message?"
What are you expecting?

Are you getting stations in the scroll bar (left side) that are coming in from APRS-IS?

You can check your status by enabling logging
  >Menu >Enables >logging >Port(APRSIS)
This will allow you to see the interaction with the APRS-IS server.

If you disable APRS-IS and re-enable the port with logging, you can see if there are any errors

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 6:35:27 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Thanks for the code. Filled the required fields on start up. Aprsis32 no responding message?


On Jul 2, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

<passcode info removed>


On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 5:14:43 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Please provide a passcode for David George call sign VA3DPG.

Thank you.


Re: Passcode request (posted to main group)

Rob Giuliano
 

Cross posting to the APRSIS32 group.

That sounds like 2 possibilities:
1. having an issue connectin to the internet (port blockled) and you can't download maps
    I know I can't download maps when I am at work - it is blocked.
2. the folder access for either the APRSIS32.xml or maps

Is there an APRSIS32.XML file in the folder you tried installing it into?
You can attach that and maybe there will be a clue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

PS: Please reply to all to post to the APRSIS32 groips.io board.


On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 5:28:45 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Robert, thank you for emailing me back.

After downloading the zip file to the C drive into its own folder,(not under programs) I unzipped the file. It required me to insert my call sign and the pass code you gave me.

After entering this I was expecting the map to show up for me to enter my location, as shown by the video? All that would show up was a white box across my screen a half inch wide 6 inchess long with a small blue square flashing on and off.

I tried many times and gave up.

David va3dpg

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:44 PM Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:
I don't remember seeing another post, or I deleted the update and not the original.
Did you ever get this working?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 9:14:12 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


When starting the exe file you are required to enter call sign and ssid, and enter. That’s is as far as I can get


On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

I am not sure what you are referring to with"Filled the required fields on start up.  Aprsis32 no responding message?"
What are you expecting?

Are you getting stations in the scroll bar (left side) that are coming in from APRS-IS?

You can check your status by enabling logging
  >Menu >Enables >logging >Port(APRSIS)
This will allow you to see the interaction with the APRS-IS server.

If you disable APRS-IS and re-enable the port with logging, you can see if there are any errors

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 6:35:27 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Thanks for the code. Filled the required fields on start up. Aprsis32 no responding message?


On Jul 2, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

<passcode info removed>


On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 5:14:43 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Please provide a passcode for David George call sign VA3DPG.

Thank you.


Re: Passcode request (posted to main group)

Rob Giuliano
 

I don't remember seeing another post, or I deleted the update and not the original.
Did you ever get this working?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 9:14:12 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


When starting the exe file you are required to enter call sign and ssid, and enter. That’s is as far as I can get


On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

I am not sure what you are referring to with"Filled the required fields on start up.  Aprsis32 no responding message?"
What are you expecting?

Are you getting stations in the scroll bar (left side) that are coming in from APRS-IS?

You can check your status by enabling logging
  >Menu >Enables >logging >Port(APRSIS)
This will allow you to see the interaction with the APRS-IS server.

If you disable APRS-IS and re-enable the port with logging, you can see if there are any errors

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 6:35:27 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Thanks for the code. Filled the required fields on start up. Aprsis32 no responding message?


On Jul 2, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

<passcode info removed>


On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 5:14:43 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Please provide a passcode for David George call sign VA3DPG.

Thank you.


Re: KJ4ERJ-LS feed?

Glenn O'Connor
 

You are very welcome!


On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 08:32 Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Wasn't supposed to be down, but it apparently wasn't polling blitzortung.  Restarted and you should be seeing the feed again.

Thanks for noticing and even more thanks for letting me know!  I've got so many things running that I sometimes neglect to check their status.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/4/2020 8:19 AM, Glenn O'Connor wrote:
Has the "experimental" lightning feed been suspended?

Glenn-KF0ED


Re: KJ4ERJ-LS feed?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Wasn't supposed to be down, but it apparently wasn't polling blitzortung.  Restarted and you should be seeing the feed again.

Thanks for noticing and even more thanks for letting me know!  I've got so many things running that I sometimes neglect to check their status.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/4/2020 8:19 AM, Glenn O'Connor wrote:
Has the "experimental" lightning feed been suspended?

Glenn-KF0ED


KJ4ERJ-LS feed?

Glenn O'Connor
 

Has the "experimental" lightning feed been suspended?

Glenn-KF0ED


Re: Passcode request

Rob Giuliano
 

Are you running the application in a protected area?
Protected areas such as:
1. Inside the ziup file -> you must extract the EXE file into a local unpretotected folder
2. Extracted into "Program Files" or some other Microsoft restricted folder
3. Folder is protect by virus protection
    Many folders are now (by default) read only) and you need to provide permissions to allow access to these folder.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 7:02:46 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Rob, I have followed the setup page to no end but still cannot get the map to appear to complete the setup. A small blue square is flashing on the screen to no end. Any suggestion?

David


On Jul 2, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

Passcode for VA3DPG is 18080

This passcode will work for any -SSID (http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:ssids) you choose to use.
Because it is actually the APRS-IS network passcode, it should also work with other APRS-IS client software.

73 de
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 5:14:43 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Please provide a passcode for David George call sign VA3DPG.

Thank you.


Re: Passcode request (posted to main group)

Rob Giuliano
 

I am not sure what you are referring to with"Filled the required fields on start up.  Aprsis32 no responding message?"
What are you expecting?

Are you getting stations in the scroll bar (left side) that are coming in from APRS-IS?

You can check your status by enabling logging
  >Menu >Enables >logging >Port(APRSIS)
This will allow you to see the interaction with the APRS-IS server.

If you disable APRS-IS and re-enable the port with logging, you can see if there are any errors

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 6:35:27 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Thanks for the code. Filled the required fields on start up. Aprsis32 no responding message?


On Jul 2, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

<passcode info removed>


On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 5:14:43 PM EDT, David George <va3dpg@...> wrote:


Please provide a passcode for David George call sign VA3DPG.

Thank you.


Re: Direct RF Messaging

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

There are lots of things going on here that need more information.  See interspersed below.

On 6/27/2020 1:37 PM, Charles Jessee wrote:
I've turned off the Beacon on the APRS-IS Port and also set my 710-APRS Port to No Gate ME.

That's a good start.  And to be clear, you're using a KWD710(APRS) port to talk to your D710, right?  If so, that introduces yet another layer of confusion.

I sent a message directly from my radio

So, you didn't use APRSIS32, but the front panel of your D710 to send the message.  What is the configured callsign-SSID of the radio and the same question for your APRSIS32 instance?

and saw that appear on the target AB1II-7 when I clicked it's icon on the APRSIS32 map.

I have no idea what "saw that appear...it's icon" means.  Messages don't show up on icons nor any popups that I can recall.  Can you describe what you saw and where/when you saw it?

My sent message was red and remained red.

Where was your sent message red?  I didn't think the D710 had a color display?  Or did you actually send the message from APRSIS32?  And if the latter, what were the checkboxes in the message dialog when you sent the message?


I see the below on APRS.FI Messaging. It looks like it sent 5 times?

APRS.fi's messaging display isn't the best place to look as it doesn't show acks.  It's convenient in that it shows messages both to and from a station, but for what you're trying to debug, you need to see the acks.

Also, APRS.fi is only fed by the APRS-IS and that has very little to do with what your station(s) were copying on RF.  Anything captured on the APRS-IS is at the mercy of IGates and duplicate suppression.  If you want to debug "Direct RF Messaging", then you need to do it with RF logs, not the APRS-IS nor APRS.fi.

Do you have Enables / Logging / File Enabled checked?  This allows all trace log content to be recorded into your APRSIS32*.log files.

Do you have the Port<YourPortName> trace log enabled?  This would capture lots of traffic between APRSIS32 and your radio or TNC.

Do you have Enables / Ports / Log All checked?  This will cause all RF-received packets to be logged to a *.PKT file.  Very useful for analyzing what your station is hearing via RF.

Do you have the Transmit trace log enabled?  This will allow you to see what your station is transmitting and over which ports.

I saw no reply on APRSIS32 but see the below on APRS-FI.

What "reply" are you expecting?  Do you mean the ack?  Or a separate message from the other station?


Can I send direct RF on APRSIS32 as I am now configured (above)?

Again, you said you sent the message "directly from my radio", so I'm confused (again).  The only thing it takes to send on RF Only is selecting the appropriate option in the APRSIS32 messaging dialog.


Thanks for helping me understand!

But wait, there's more!  First, you should use a unique callsign-SSID for every active station.  According to aprs.fi's raw packets (https://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=N4SRN), you are using your base callsign for both APRSIS32 and a CWOP weather station.  One of these should have an -SSID to keep them straight.

You never mentioned if the other station in your test is actually reachable in your local RF environment.  Or are you trying to go RF through a local IGate or digipeater to reach the other station?  And can you copy it direct via RF?  RF paths are not necessarily bi-directional.

Here's your raw packets from aprs.fi that match the messages you posted:

2020-06-27 11:04:25 CDT: N4SRN>APK102,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,KB1GKN-10::AB1II-7  :TES RF RX{5
2020-06-27 11:05:26 CDT: N4SRN>APK102,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N3LLO-3::AB1II-7  :TES RF RX{5
2020-06-27 11:06:26 CDT: N4SRN>APK102,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,KB1GKN-10::AB1II-7  :TES RF RX{5
2020-06-27 11:07:27 CDT: N4SRN>APK102,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,KB1GKN-10::AB1II-7  :TES RF RX{5
2020-06-27 11:08:27 CDT: N4SRN>APK102,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N3LLO-3::AB1II-7  :TES RF RX{5

Given the >APK102, it does appear that you sent these from the radio itself, but assuming a KWD710(APRS) type port, this could be suspect.  Apparently 3 of these messages got through, or at least 3 acks came back according to AB1II-7's raw packets:

2020-06-27 11:05:36 CDT: AB1II-7>APY02D,W1MHL*,WIDE2-1,qAR,N1UEC-6::N4SRN    :ack5
2020-06-27 11:06:35 CDT: AB1II-7>APY02D,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,W1XM::N4SRN    :ack5
2020-06-27 11:08:36 CDT: AB1II-7>APY02D,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N3LLO-3::N4SRN    :ack5

So, the question is why the ack's didn't get back to the radio, right?

And now, on the other 'way round.  Here's messages from AB1II-7 to N4SRN:

2020-06-27 11:19:46 CDT: AB1II-7>APY02D,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N3LLO-3::N4SRN    :R 73  TES RF RX{34
2020-06-27 11:20:51 CDT: AB1II-7>APY02D,W1MHL*,WIDE2-1,qAR,NS1RA-2::N4SRN    :R 73  TES RF RX{34
2020-06-27 11:21:55 CDT: AB1II-7>APY02D,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N3LLO-3::N4SRN    :R 73  TES RF RX{34
2020-06-27 11:22:59 CDT: AB1II-7>APY02D,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N3LLO-3::N4SRN    :R 73  TES RF RX{34
2020-06-27 11:24:05 CDT: AB1II-7>APY02D,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,W1XM::N4SRN    :R 73  TES RF RX{34

Apparently, all 5 of these retransmissions got through because acks were logged coming from N4SRN.

2020-06-27 11:19:46 CDT: N4SRN>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2LONDON::AB1II-7  :ack34
2020-06-27 11:20:51 CDT: N4SRN>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2LONDON::AB1II-7  :ack34
2020-06-27 11:21:55 CDT: N4SRN>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2LONDON::AB1II-7  :ack34
2020-06-27 11:22:59 CDT: N4SRN>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2LONDON::AB1II-7  :ack34
2020-06-27 11:24:05 CDT: N4SRN>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2LONDON::AB1II-7  :ack34

So, based on the acks, each station apparently DID copy the original messages, but based on the retries, the acks were not copied by the originating station.  In the second exchange, this may or may not be surprising, because the logged packets were sent via the APRS-IS.  But then again, you haven't mentioned turning off Messages on the APRS-IS port, so acks were likely sent out on all ports, RF and the -IS, but the -IS would only show the first copy of said ack.

So, there's the situation with questions for additional clarification.  Hopefully there's some RF logs from one or both sides to help reconstruct what really happened.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 

PS.  Apparently AB1II-7 with a ToCall of APY02D is a Yaesu FT2D radio so there aren't likely logs available from it...


Bret/N4SRN

2020-06-27 12:04:25 EDT: N4SRN>AB1II-7: TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:05:26 EDT: N4SRN>AB1II-7: TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:06:26 EDT: N4SRN>AB1II-7: TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:07:27 EDT: N4SRN>AB1II-7: TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:08:27 EDT: N4SRN>AB1II-7: TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:19:46 EDT: AB1II-7>N4SRN: R 73 TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:20:51 EDT: AB1II-7>N4SRN: R 73 TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:21:55 EDT: AB1II-7>N4SRN: R 73 TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:22:59 EDT: AB1II-7>N4SRN: R 73 TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:24:05 EDT: AB1II-7>N4SRN: R 73 TES RF RX


Direct RF Messaging

Charles Jessee
 

I've turned off the Beacon on the APRS-IS Port and also set my 710-APRS Port to No Gate ME. I sent a message directly from my radio and saw that appear on the target AB1II-7 when I clicked it's icon on the APRSIS32 map. My sent message was red and remained red.

I see the below on APRS.FI Messaging. It looks like it sent 5 times? I saw no reply on APRSIS32 but see the below on APRS-FI.

Can I send direct RF on APRSIS32 as I am now configured (above)?

Thanks for helping me understand!

Bret/N4SRN

2020-06-27 12:04:25 EDT: N4SRN>AB1II-7: TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:05:26 EDT: N4SRN>AB1II-7: TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:06:26 EDT: N4SRN>AB1II-7: TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:07:27 EDT: N4SRN>AB1II-7: TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:08:27 EDT: N4SRN>AB1II-7: TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:19:46 EDT: AB1II-7>N4SRN: R 73 TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:20:51 EDT: AB1II-7>N4SRN: R 73 TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:21:55 EDT: AB1II-7>N4SRN: R 73 TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:22:59 EDT: AB1II-7>N4SRN: R 73 TES RF RX
2020-06-27 12:24:05 EDT: AB1II-7>N4SRN: R 73 TES RF RX


APRSIS32 on RPi (was Passcode request for KI6HHJ)

Rob Giuliano
 

First I tried the simple solution.  Since the latest version of Raspbian is based of Debian Buster, I decided to just install WINE
   sudo apt-get install wine
I got (what I expected) BAD executable error.

So, as stated below, I decided to try and follow the instructions from https://www.novaspirit.com/2019/04/15/run-x86-arm/ on the RPi4 that I was going to use (2GB version).  So to build a custom kernel I followed Kernel building - Raspberry Pi Documentation
   sudo apt-get install get bc bison flex libssl-dev make
   git clone --depth=1 https://github/com/raspberrypi/linux
  cd linux
  KERNEL=kernel7l
  make bcm2711_defconfig
This created the .config file which requires the editing.  This was Kernel version 4.19.127
   find CONFIG_VMSPLIT_3G and make sure it is CONFIG_VMSPLIT_3g=y
   makes sure there is no CONFIG_VMSPLIT_2G=y  if so, comment it out with the # in front.
   Next add something to CONFIG_LOCALVERSION to identify your version.
       CONFIG_LOCALVERSION="-QEMU" to indicate the updated QEMU split.
I stop at "Cross Compiling". 
I rebooted the Pi and checked the version cat /proc/version.  Unfortunately, it showed the old default version (4.19.118).

It took a little effort to figure out why until I looked at file name (kernel7l.img) was confusing.  Was it 7 'el' or 7 one?
  Of course I assumed 'one' and it turned out to be an 'el'.
     The good news is that these are just renames - no need to completely recompile.
     I renamed (mv) the file to the correct name

I rebooted again, and check again.   cat /proc/version now shows 4.19.127

Well, I got my Raspberry Pi version 4 (RPi4) kernel updated to the recommended split.
Tomorrow is field day, so this is on pause until after that bit of fun.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 10:38:12 PM EDT, Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> wrote:


With all this discussion, I decided to "give-it-a-go".
I am following the instructions from https://www.novaspirit.com/2019/04/15/run-x86-arm/
  (instructions, I don't watch video - I'd rather read).

I did change "stretch" to "buster" to get the latest raspian version (4.19.127 is showing).
This will take a little experimenting, but I'll let you know how it goes.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 8:21:36 PM EDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:


Ah, that's the subject of this whole (wrongly subjected) thread!  Here I was hoping that you already had it up and running and we were all going to ask you how you managed it!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 8:14 PM, Don Poaps wrote:
I would love to use if I knew how to make it work.

73

Don

On Thu., Jun. 25, 2020, 4:17 p.m. Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Is that "I love to USE" or "I WOULD love to use"?  Do you have it up on a PI currently?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 1:43 PM, Don Poaps wrote:
I love to use APRISCE on a PI. The maps that are used are really good. 

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:26 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

I did attempt to get MOAI/APRSISMO running on a Pi over a year ago, but at that time the windowing layer that MOAI used wasn't properly detecting and/or using the native video chip in the Pi, so it was falling back to X which was EXTREMELY SLOW....  I tried to figure it out but gave up.

So maybe by now the lower layers have caught up and I should give that another shot.  It won't be APRSIS32, at least not until I get most of the remainder of the features ported over!

Oh, and it won't have MutliTrack in any case because the entire MOAI GUI interface is single window, even under Windows.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 11:54 AM, Greg D wrote:
It might be easier to get the Android version to run on a Pi.  Both ARM, and both Linux.  Just missing the Android API.  Has anyone written such for the Pi?  This looks promising...  https://magpi.raspberrypi.org/articles/android-raspberry-pi

Greg  KO6TH


Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
The Pi4 is definitely a much more powerful processor (4 cores at 1.5GHz) with more RAM (now up to 8GB with some fancy 32-bit paging).

However, the Pi is an ARM processor and APRSIS32 is compiled for the x86 processors.  Since WINE is typically run in a Linux environment also on x86 processors, it doesn't translate across the processors.  It mostly translates to the host OS. There was a version of WINE for the PI, but there are so few apps compiled for the Pi processor, that it created high expectations that it couldn't deliver on.

Exagear was a true "emulator" that allowed the x86 code to run on the Pi's processor.  However, the processor in the Pi4 made so many drastic changes to key things like hardware I/O addressing and even memory addressing, it has been hard for Exagear to catch up.  It looks like they gave up in February.

There is a newer 'custom' version of WINE for the Pi that does a much better job, but it requires a customer Kernel and some modifications to the WINE configuration.  I think it requires some custom QEMU settings as well. There are a few YouTube videos if you search on "WINE on the Pi4".

Good luck - report back if you actually get it running!

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 10:16:45 AM EDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:


I don't know if the newest Pis have enough power to do it reasonably well, but APRSIS32 runs under WINE and I believe you can put WINE on a Pi.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 9:03 AM, Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
Mike,
I am posting your Pi question to the main group.
Of course APRSIS32 is a Windows application for x86 processors.
I do not know of anyone running this on a Pi

I know some who use the Pi as the pseudo TNC (soundcard or direct connect a hardware TNC) then send the data to a Windows PC over TCP/IP.


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

PS:  Passcode sent off list.


On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 2:54:25 AM EDT, Mike Hollibaugh <mhollibaugh@...> wrote:


Good evening, I am very excited to use your software,

I would like to use APRSSI32 and I am hoping to obtain a passcode.

My name is Michael L Hollibaugh and my callsign is KI6HHJ.

I can be found on aprs.fi using the SSID's of KI6HHJ-1 and KI6HHJ-2:


Thank you for your assistance and please let me know if you have any questions,


Mike


PS: being that Exagear's emulator is no longer available, do you have
any other recommendations to install your application on a Raspberry
Pi 4, 4G without a Windows environment?


Re: [EXT] Re: [APRSISCE] Configure APRSIS32 for Kenwood TM-D710GA as Mobile

Fred Hillhouse
 

Hi Bret,

 

I saw it today. I don’t always sit down to my PC.

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Jessee
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 6:26 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [APRSISCE] Configure APRSIS32 for Kenwood TM-D710GA as Mobile

 

Hi Fred,

I sent you a test message at 18:24 today. If received or not, that tells me something.  BRET/N4SRN




Avast logo

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com



Re: Passcode request for KI6HHJ

Rob Giuliano
 

With all this discussion, I decided to "give-it-a-go".
I am following the instructions from https://www.novaspirit.com/2019/04/15/run-x86-arm/
  (instructions, I don't watch video - I'd rather read).

I did change "stretch" to "buster" to get the latest raspian version (4.19.127 is showing).
This will take a little experimenting, but I'll let you know how it goes.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 8:21:36 PM EDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:


Ah, that's the subject of this whole (wrongly subjected) thread!  Here I was hoping that you already had it up and running and we were all going to ask you how you managed it!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 8:14 PM, Don Poaps wrote:
I would love to use if I knew how to make it work.

73

Don

On Thu., Jun. 25, 2020, 4:17 p.m. Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Is that "I love to USE" or "I WOULD love to use"?  Do you have it up on a PI currently?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 1:43 PM, Don Poaps wrote:
I love to use APRISCE on a PI. The maps that are used are really good. 

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:26 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

I did attempt to get MOAI/APRSISMO running on a Pi over a year ago, but at that time the windowing layer that MOAI used wasn't properly detecting and/or using the native video chip in the Pi, so it was falling back to X which was EXTREMELY SLOW....  I tried to figure it out but gave up.

So maybe by now the lower layers have caught up and I should give that another shot.  It won't be APRSIS32, at least not until I get most of the remainder of the features ported over!

Oh, and it won't have MutliTrack in any case because the entire MOAI GUI interface is single window, even under Windows.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 11:54 AM, Greg D wrote:
It might be easier to get the Android version to run on a Pi.  Both ARM, and both Linux.  Just missing the Android API.  Has anyone written such for the Pi?  This looks promising...  https://magpi.raspberrypi.org/articles/android-raspberry-pi

Greg  KO6TH


Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
The Pi4 is definitely a much more powerful processor (4 cores at 1.5GHz) with more RAM (now up to 8GB with some fancy 32-bit paging).

However, the Pi is an ARM processor and APRSIS32 is compiled for the x86 processors.  Since WINE is typically run in a Linux environment also on x86 processors, it doesn't translate across the processors.  It mostly translates to the host OS. There was a version of WINE for the PI, but there are so few apps compiled for the Pi processor, that it created high expectations that it couldn't deliver on.

Exagear was a true "emulator" that allowed the x86 code to run on the Pi's processor.  However, the processor in the Pi4 made so many drastic changes to key things like hardware I/O addressing and even memory addressing, it has been hard for Exagear to catch up.  It looks like they gave up in February.

There is a newer 'custom' version of WINE for the Pi that does a much better job, but it requires a customer Kernel and some modifications to the WINE configuration.  I think it requires some custom QEMU settings as well. There are a few YouTube videos if you search on "WINE on the Pi4".

Good luck - report back if you actually get it running!

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 10:16:45 AM EDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:


I don't know if the newest Pis have enough power to do it reasonably well, but APRSIS32 runs under WINE and I believe you can put WINE on a Pi.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 9:03 AM, Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
Mike,
I am posting your Pi question to the main group.
Of course APRSIS32 is a Windows application for x86 processors.
I do not know of anyone running this on a Pi

I know some who use the Pi as the pseudo TNC (soundcard or direct connect a hardware TNC) then send the data to a Windows PC over TCP/IP.


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

PS:  Passcode sent off list.


On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 2:54:25 AM EDT, Mike Hollibaugh <mhollibaugh@...> wrote:


Good evening, I am very excited to use your software,

I would like to use APRSSI32 and I am hoping to obtain a passcode.

My name is Michael L Hollibaugh and my callsign is KI6HHJ.

I can be found on aprs.fi using the SSID's of KI6HHJ-1 and KI6HHJ-2:


Thank you for your assistance and please let me know if you have any questions,


Mike


PS: being that Exagear's emulator is no longer available, do you have
any other recommendations to install your application on a Raspberry
Pi 4, 4G without a Windows environment?


Re: Passcode request for KI6HHJ

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Ah, that's the subject of this whole (wrongly subjected) thread!  Here I was hoping that you already had it up and running and we were all going to ask you how you managed it!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 8:14 PM, Don Poaps wrote:
I would love to use if I knew how to make it work.

73

Don

On Thu., Jun. 25, 2020, 4:17 p.m. Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Is that "I love to USE" or "I WOULD love to use"?  Do you have it up on a PI currently?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 1:43 PM, Don Poaps wrote:
I love to use APRISCE on a PI. The maps that are used are really good. 

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:26 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

I did attempt to get MOAI/APRSISMO running on a Pi over a year ago, but at that time the windowing layer that MOAI used wasn't properly detecting and/or using the native video chip in the Pi, so it was falling back to X which was EXTREMELY SLOW....  I tried to figure it out but gave up.

So maybe by now the lower layers have caught up and I should give that another shot.  It won't be APRSIS32, at least not until I get most of the remainder of the features ported over!

Oh, and it won't have MutliTrack in any case because the entire MOAI GUI interface is single window, even under Windows.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 11:54 AM, Greg D wrote:
It might be easier to get the Android version to run on a Pi.  Both ARM, and both Linux.  Just missing the Android API.  Has anyone written such for the Pi?  This looks promising...  https://magpi.raspberrypi.org/articles/android-raspberry-pi

Greg  KO6TH


Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
The Pi4 is definitely a much more powerful processor (4 cores at 1.5GHz) with more RAM (now up to 8GB with some fancy 32-bit paging).

However, the Pi is an ARM processor and APRSIS32 is compiled for the x86 processors.  Since WINE is typically run in a Linux environment also on x86 processors, it doesn't translate across the processors.  It mostly translates to the host OS. There was a version of WINE for the PI, but there are so few apps compiled for the Pi processor, that it created high expectations that it couldn't deliver on.

Exagear was a true "emulator" that allowed the x86 code to run on the Pi's processor.  However, the processor in the Pi4 made so many drastic changes to key things like hardware I/O addressing and even memory addressing, it has been hard for Exagear to catch up.  It looks like they gave up in February.

There is a newer 'custom' version of WINE for the Pi that does a much better job, but it requires a customer Kernel and some modifications to the WINE configuration.  I think it requires some custom QEMU settings as well. There are a few YouTube videos if you search on "WINE on the Pi4".

Good luck - report back if you actually get it running!

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 10:16:45 AM EDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:


I don't know if the newest Pis have enough power to do it reasonably well, but APRSIS32 runs under WINE and I believe you can put WINE on a Pi.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 9:03 AM, Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
Mike,
I am posting your Pi question to the main group.
Of course APRSIS32 is a Windows application for x86 processors.
I do not know of anyone running this on a Pi

I know some who use the Pi as the pseudo TNC (soundcard or direct connect a hardware TNC) then send the data to a Windows PC over TCP/IP.


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

PS:  Passcode sent off list.


On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 2:54:25 AM EDT, Mike Hollibaugh <mhollibaugh@...> wrote:


Good evening, I am very excited to use your software,

I would like to use APRSSI32 and I am hoping to obtain a passcode.

My name is Michael L Hollibaugh and my callsign is KI6HHJ.

I can be found on aprs.fi using the SSID's of KI6HHJ-1 and KI6HHJ-2:


Thank you for your assistance and please let me know if you have any questions,


Mike


PS: being that Exagear's emulator is no longer available, do you have
any other recommendations to install your application on a Raspberry
Pi 4, 4G without a Windows environment?


Re: Passcode request for KI6HHJ

Don Poaps
 

I would love to use if I knew how to make it work.

73

Don

On Thu., Jun. 25, 2020, 4:17 p.m. Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Is that "I love to USE" or "I WOULD love to use"?  Do you have it up on a PI currently?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 1:43 PM, Don Poaps wrote:
I love to use APRISCE on a PI. The maps that are used are really good. 

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU   VOICE


Winlink: va7qu@...
Subject://wl2k           



                    
  




 


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:26 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

I did attempt to get MOAI/APRSISMO running on a Pi over a year ago, but at that time the windowing layer that MOAI used wasn't properly detecting and/or using the native video chip in the Pi, so it was falling back to X which was EXTREMELY SLOW....  I tried to figure it out but gave up.

So maybe by now the lower layers have caught up and I should give that another shot.  It won't be APRSIS32, at least not until I get most of the remainder of the features ported over!

Oh, and it won't have MutliTrack in any case because the entire MOAI GUI interface is single window, even under Windows.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 11:54 AM, Greg D wrote:
It might be easier to get the Android version to run on a Pi.  Both ARM, and both Linux.  Just missing the Android API.  Has anyone written such for the Pi?  This looks promising...  https://magpi.raspberrypi.org/articles/android-raspberry-pi

Greg  KO6TH


Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
The Pi4 is definitely a much more powerful processor (4 cores at 1.5GHz) with more RAM (now up to 8GB with some fancy 32-bit paging).

However, the Pi is an ARM processor and APRSIS32 is compiled for the x86 processors.  Since WINE is typically run in a Linux environment also on x86 processors, it doesn't translate across the processors.  It mostly translates to the host OS. There was a version of WINE for the PI, but there are so few apps compiled for the Pi processor, that it created high expectations that it couldn't deliver on.

Exagear was a true "emulator" that allowed the x86 code to run on the Pi's processor.  However, the processor in the Pi4 made so many drastic changes to key things like hardware I/O addressing and even memory addressing, it has been hard for Exagear to catch up.  It looks like they gave up in February.

There is a newer 'custom' version of WINE for the Pi that does a much better job, but it requires a customer Kernel and some modifications to the WINE configuration.  I think it requires some custom QEMU settings as well. There are a few YouTube videos if you search on "WINE on the Pi4".

Good luck - report back if you actually get it running!

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 10:16:45 AM EDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:


I don't know if the newest Pis have enough power to do it reasonably well, but APRSIS32 runs under WINE and I believe you can put WINE on a Pi.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/25/2020 9:03 AM, Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
Mike,
I am posting your Pi question to the main group.
Of course APRSIS32 is a Windows application for x86 processors.
I do not know of anyone running this on a Pi

I know some who use the Pi as the pseudo TNC (soundcard or direct connect a hardware TNC) then send the data to a Windows PC over TCP/IP.


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

PS:  Passcode sent off list.


On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 2:54:25 AM EDT, Mike Hollibaugh <mhollibaugh@...> wrote:


Good evening, I am very excited to use your software,

I would like to use APRSSI32 and I am hoping to obtain a passcode.

My name is Michael L Hollibaugh and my callsign is KI6HHJ.

I can be found on aprs.fi using the SSID's of KI6HHJ-1 and KI6HHJ-2:


Thank you for your assistance and please let me know if you have any questions,


Mike


PS: being that Exagear's emulator is no longer available, do you have
any other recommendations to install your application on a Raspberry
Pi 4, 4G without a Windows environment?