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Re: FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

Robert Bruninga
 

Ø  but the trailing / AND the !DAO! are left in the humanly readable comment

Which Is why I strongly recommend that the !DAO! always be appended at the end of a packet, not near the beginning.

 

Ø  but the trailing /…

Which is my long standing frustrating that the manufacturers did not implement my recommendation for considering the delimiter (either a SPACE or a “/” as  something to ignore and not begin parsing the remaining comment until after any adelimiter.

 

Kenwood didn’t and so now we have to concatenate PHG and what follows making for some pretty human confusing combinations.   But maybe this is no big deal as more  and more stuff is parsed and so humans don’t look at the raw packets much anymore.

 

In fact, this  could be an advantage to Lynn’s parsing, so that we don’t have to worry so much about human readability of the raw packets.

 

Bob, Wb4APR

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:50 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 



So, if I see those right, the PHG information is parsed and stripped off, but the trailing / AND the !DAO! are left in the humanly readable comment.  At least it's readable, anyway.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 1:40 PM, Steve Daniels wrote:

Hopefully the attached VX8 images will go through, if not will email Lynn direct

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: 10 May 2012 18:10
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

Actually, I'd be interested in seeing how the newly proposed FTM-350 workaround PHGnnnn/FFF.FFFMHz ... packets appear on the VX-8s display.  If the PHG is removed, whether or not the / is removed, and whether the frequency is visible or line-wrapped and how much of the subsequent information is included on the display.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/10/2012 12:35 PM, Bob Bruninga wrote:

Ø  I have a VX8 user local to me, I know it does not do QSY but I can check how it displays the information, if that’s a help

 

Thanks, but I believe the answer has been given that no, they do not.  Just the FTM-350.

 

Bob, WB4aPR

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of James Ewen
Sent: 10 May 2012 15:30
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@...> wrote:
>> It would be nice to have taken a bit of time to ensure
>> that the BASELINE is currently correct rather than firing
>> off something incomplete to the manufacturers.
>
> Relax.  How can we assure it is correct without involving them in that
> assessment?  Afterall, until Lynn came along, they were the ONLY players in
> the game!

Nailing an accurate definition down would be a first step, and then
assess the implementation.

> I have many DOZENS of emails over several years with them clarifying these
> details in the FREQ SPEC.  The SPEC evolved along with our mutual
> understanding.  And I guess that contributed somewhat to its poor
> organization.  Which I am trying to fix now.

I ended up working until midnight last night, so didn't get any time
to work on looking into your changes, nor towards creating a test
packet array to be used to identify the various implementations.

--
James
VE6SRV






 






Re: Scanning in comment

Robert Bruninga
 

Agree, keep the freq until a new one replaces it.  I have asked Kenwood to transmit “[scanning]” while scanning, but that is the fix that they have not yet implemented.

 

Bob

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 4:32 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment

 

That is correct.  It's kind of like PHG at aprs.fi, you don't need to keep receiving it, but it is remembered.  This is (almost) necessary because there are dual-purpose "stations" out there that transmit repeater information and weather information under a single -SSID.

I am considering aging it out, or at least displaying how old the information IS.  Any comments on how long makes sense?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 4:27 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:

Hmm, the frequency didn't  get removed when a newer packet came in.



VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=

The last two packets did not have a frequency in the packet I recorded.

APRS.FI confrimed it has been awhile too.

2012-05-11 19:41:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:42:59 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,VE3DVQ,WIDE2,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:43:00 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY5P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB}lrBb/>"4r}=  [Rate limited (< 5 sec)]
2012-05-11 19:43:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY4U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gC"lgSb/>"4t}=
2012-05-11 19:46:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX9W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBnm+^b/>"4u}=
2012-05-11 19:48:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:49:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:51:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX1X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBIm+Sb/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:52:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB;m5eb/>"4q}=
2012-05-11 19:54:08 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW6U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB,m+Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:55:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW4Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAym+]b/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:58:39 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV9Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA[m5Vb/>"4n}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:00:09 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:00:10 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA?m" b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gA?m"<0x1c>b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:41 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:02:48 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:07:47 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBLl^Ib/>"4s}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:11:51 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:12:49 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:13:17 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:13:57 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH


________________________________

        From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
        Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 14:44
        To: aprsisce@...
        Subject: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment
       
       
         

        For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
        Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
        correctly.
       
        Best regards,
       
        ------------------------------------
        Fred Hillhouse Jr
        http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
        ------------------------------------
       
       

       

 


Re: Scanning in comment

Robert Bruninga
 

Originally, the D710 violates the astonishment preincipal and just transmits what ever freq is in the radio at the instant of the beacon!

 

Really bad.  It is on the fix list, but I don’t think it has been released?

 

Bob

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 4:41 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment

 




That is true, if [scanning], no frequency.

 

My recollection is that the Yaesu is totally blank when scanning except for comment. If someone has a D710 handy, start scanning for a bit.

 

Best regards,

Fred, N7FMH

 

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 16:34
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment

Wait, looking at your raw packets, it seems that [scanning] replaces the frequency information?  And even with that, some beacons don't even include the comment text at all, so obviously I wouldn't want to just forget the last heard just because there isn't one in this packet.

Any chance we could get [scanning] added to the FreqSpec recommendations?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 4:27 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:

Hmm, the frequency didn't  get removed when a newer packet came in.



VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=

The last two packets did not have a frequency in the packet I recorded.

APRS.FI confrimed it has been awhile too.

2012-05-11 19:41:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:42:59 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,VE3DVQ,WIDE2,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:43:00 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY5P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB}lrBb/>"4r}=  [Rate limited (< 5 sec)]
2012-05-11 19:43:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY4U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gC"lgSb/>"4t}=
2012-05-11 19:46:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX9W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBnm+^b/>"4u}=
2012-05-11 19:48:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:49:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:51:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX1X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBIm+Sb/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:52:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB;m5eb/>"4q}=
2012-05-11 19:54:08 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW6U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB,m+Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:55:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW4Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAym+]b/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:58:39 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV9Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA[m5Vb/>"4n}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:00:09 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:00:10 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA?m" b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gA?m"<0x1c>b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:41 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:02:48 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:07:47 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBLl^Ib/>"4s}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:11:51 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:12:49 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:13:17 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:13:57 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH


________________________________

        From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
        Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 14:44
        To: aprsisce@...
        Subject: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment
       
       
         

        For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
        Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
        correctly.
       
        Best regards,
       
        ------------------------------------
        Fred Hillhouse Jr
        http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
        ------------------------------------
       
       

       

 





Re: Scanning in comment

Fred Hillhouse
 

Two different D72 stations for comparison:
KC2KJQ-7>ECCU4Y,W2RGI-1,WIDE1*,qAR,N2KGC:`fBS ht>/>":m}[scanning]=
VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
 
Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH
 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 16:41
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment

 

That is true, if [scanning], no frequency.
 
My recollection is that the Yaesu is totally blank when scanning except for comment. If someone has a D710 handy, start scanning for a bit.
 
Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH
 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 16:34
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment

Wait, looking at your raw packets, it seems that [scanning] replaces the frequency information?  And even with that, some beacons don't even include the comment text at all, so obviously I wouldn't want to just forget the last heard just because there isn't one in this packet.

Any chance we could get [scanning] added to the FreqSpec recommendations?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 4:27 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:

Hmm, the frequency didn't  get removed when a newer packet came in.



VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=

The last two packets did not have a frequency in the packet I recorded.

APRS.FI confrimed it has been awhile too.

2012-05-11 19:41:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:42:59 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,VE3DVQ,WIDE2,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:43:00 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY5P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB}lrBb/>"4r}=  [Rate limited (< 5 sec)]
2012-05-11 19:43:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY4U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gC"lgSb/>"4t}=
2012-05-11 19:46:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX9W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBnm+^b/>"4u}=
2012-05-11 19:48:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:49:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:51:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX1X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBIm+Sb/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:52:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB;m5eb/>"4q}=
2012-05-11 19:54:08 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW6U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB,m+Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:55:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW4Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAym+]b/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:58:39 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV9Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA[m5Vb/>"4n}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:00:09 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:00:10 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA?m" b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gA?m"<0x1c>b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:41 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:02:48 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:07:47 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBLl^Ib/>"4s}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:11:51 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:12:49 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:13:17 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:13:57 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH


________________________________

        From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
        Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 14:44
        To: aprsisce@...
        Subject: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment
       
       
         

        For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
        Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
        correctly.
       
        Best regards,
       
        ------------------------------------
        Fred Hillhouse Jr
        http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
        ------------------------------------
       
       

       



Re: Scanning in comment

Fred Hillhouse
 

That is true, if [scanning], no frequency.
 
My recollection is that the Yaesu is totally blank when scanning except for comment. If someone has a D710 handy, start scanning for a bit.
 
Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH
 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 16:34
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment

Wait, looking at your raw packets, it seems that [scanning] replaces the frequency information?  And even with that, some beacons don't even include the comment text at all, so obviously I wouldn't want to just forget the last heard just because there isn't one in this packet.

Any chance we could get [scanning] added to the FreqSpec recommendations?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 4:27 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:

Hmm, the frequency didn't  get removed when a newer packet came in.



VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=

The last two packets did not have a frequency in the packet I recorded.

APRS.FI confrimed it has been awhile too.

2012-05-11 19:41:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:42:59 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,VE3DVQ,WIDE2,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:43:00 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY5P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB}lrBb/>"4r}=  [Rate limited (< 5 sec)]
2012-05-11 19:43:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY4U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gC"lgSb/>"4t}=
2012-05-11 19:46:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX9W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBnm+^b/>"4u}=
2012-05-11 19:48:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:49:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:51:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX1X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBIm+Sb/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:52:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB;m5eb/>"4q}=
2012-05-11 19:54:08 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW6U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB,m+Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:55:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW4Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAym+]b/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:58:39 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV9Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA[m5Vb/>"4n}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:00:09 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:00:10 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA?m" b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gA?m"<0x1c>b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:41 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:02:48 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:07:47 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBLl^Ib/>"4s}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:11:51 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:12:49 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:13:17 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:13:57 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH


________________________________

        From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
        Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 14:44
        To: aprsisce@...
        Subject: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment
       
       
         

        For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
        Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
        correctly.
       
        Best regards,
       
        ------------------------------------
        Fred Hillhouse Jr
        http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
        ------------------------------------
       
       

       



Re: Scanning in comment

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Wait, looking at your raw packets, it seems that [scanning] replaces the frequency information?  And even with that, some beacons don't even include the comment text at all, so obviously I wouldn't want to just forget the last heard just because there isn't one in this packet.

Any chance we could get [scanning] added to the FreqSpec recommendations?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 4:27 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:

Hmm, the frequency didn't  get removed when a newer packet came in.



VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=

The last two packets did not have a frequency in the packet I recorded.

APRS.FI confrimed it has been awhile too.

2012-05-11 19:41:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:42:59 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,VE3DVQ,WIDE2,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:43:00 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY5P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB}lrBb/>"4r}=  [Rate limited (< 5 sec)]
2012-05-11 19:43:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY4U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gC"lgSb/>"4t}=
2012-05-11 19:46:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX9W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBnm+^b/>"4u}=
2012-05-11 19:48:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:49:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:51:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX1X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBIm+Sb/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:52:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB;m5eb/>"4q}=
2012-05-11 19:54:08 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW6U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB,m+Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:55:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW4Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAym+]b/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:58:39 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV9Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA[m5Vb/>"4n}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:00:09 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:00:10 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA?m" b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gA?m"<0x1c>b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:41 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:02:48 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:07:47 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBLl^Ib/>"4s}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:11:51 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:12:49 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:13:17 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:13:57 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH


________________________________

        From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
        Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 14:44
        To: aprsisce@...
        Subject: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment
       
       
         

        For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
        Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
        correctly.
       
        Best regards,
       
        ------------------------------------
        Fred Hillhouse Jr
        http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
        ------------------------------------
       
       

       



Re: Scanning in comment

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

That is correct.  It's kind of like PHG at aprs.fi, you don't need to keep receiving it, but it is remembered.  This is (almost) necessary because there are dual-purpose "stations" out there that transmit repeater information and weather information under a single -SSID.

I am considering aging it out, or at least displaying how old the information IS.  Any comments on how long makes sense?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 4:27 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:

Hmm, the frequency didn't  get removed when a newer packet came in.



VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=

The last two packets did not have a frequency in the packet I recorded.

APRS.FI confrimed it has been awhile too.

2012-05-11 19:41:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:42:59 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,VE3DVQ,WIDE2,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:43:00 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY5P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB}lrBb/>"4r}=  [Rate limited (< 5 sec)]
2012-05-11 19:43:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY4U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gC"lgSb/>"4t}=
2012-05-11 19:46:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX9W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBnm+^b/>"4u}=
2012-05-11 19:48:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:49:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:51:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX1X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBIm+Sb/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:52:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB;m5eb/>"4q}=
2012-05-11 19:54:08 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW6U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB,m+Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:55:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW4Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAym+]b/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:58:39 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV9Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA[m5Vb/>"4n}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:00:09 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:00:10 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA?m" b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gA?m"<0x1c>b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:41 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:02:48 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:07:47 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBLl^Ib/>"4s}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:11:51 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:12:49 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:13:17 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:13:57 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH


________________________________

        From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
        Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 14:44
        To: aprsisce@...
        Subject: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment
       
       
         

        For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
        Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
        correctly.
       
        Best regards,
       
        ------------------------------------
        Fred Hillhouse Jr
        http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
        ------------------------------------
       
       

       



Re: Scanning in comment

Fred Hillhouse
 

Hmm, the frequency didn't  get removed when a newer packet came in.



VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=

The last two packets did not have a frequency in the packet I recorded.

APRS.FI confrimed it has been awhile too.

2012-05-11 19:41:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:42:59 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY6Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,VE3DVQ,WIDE2,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBal|Eb/>"4t}146.985MHz C100 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:43:00 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY5P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB}lrBb/>"4r}=  [Rate limited (< 5 sec)]
2012-05-11 19:43:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PY4U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gC"lgSb/>"4t}=
2012-05-11 19:46:37 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX9W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBnm+^b/>"4u}=
2012-05-11 19:48:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:49:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX6X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBjm!jb/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 19:51:07 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PX1X,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBIm+Sb/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:52:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB;m5eb/>"4q}=
2012-05-11 19:54:08 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW6U,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB,m+Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 19:55:38 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PW4Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAym+]b/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 19:58:39 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV9Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA[m5Vb/>"4n}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:00:09 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:00:10 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV6S,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gAKm5Ub/>"4n}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gA?m" b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:27 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV4P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gA?m"<0x1c>b/>"4r}=
2012-05-11 20:01:41 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:02:48 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PV3W,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gACm"Gb/>"4p}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:07:47 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU9R,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBLl^Ib/>"4s}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VE2RUH-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:08:50 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU8Q,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gB]l{hb/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:11:51 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:12:49 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU3P,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNm!mb/>"4m}[scanning] 73, Arthur.=
2012-05-11 20:13:17 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,VA2PBS-3:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=
2012-05-11 20:13:57 UTC: VA3BIT-6>T5PU0V,VE3WCC-1,WIDE1,qAR,VE3UIL-14:`gBNlI>b/>"4o}=

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH


________________________________

        From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
        Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 14:44
        To: aprsisce@...
        Subject: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment
       
       
         

        For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
        Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
        correctly.
       
        Best regards,
       
        ------------------------------------
        Fred Hillhouse Jr
        http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
        ------------------------------------
       
       

       


Re: TH-D72A Sending Wrong Position ??

kc2nyu <eckerpw@...>
 

Randy - do you have a TH-D72A and use with APRSIS32 ??

If so would like to share configurations.

73 Paul kc2nyu

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:

If you are using the D72 in KISS mode, *all* of its APRS functionality will
be disabled. You will have to rely on APRSIS32 for all APRS functions.
Placing a radio/tnc into KISS mode turns it into a simple modem interface.

Randy
WF5X
On May 10, 2012 4:41 PM, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

**


On 5/10/2012 4:36 PM, kc2nyu wrote:
Well - that didn't seem to work. Not receiving or sending msgs on the HT
or the laptop. When I tried the below sequence in APRSIS32 - got a msg
saying - call sign changed. Can't see how to change it back.

Configure / Messages / My Messages is just a check-box option. It
doesn't change anything.

If your message was "CallSign Changed, Chat DISABLED!", in the Chat
window, you need to clear and close that chat window or restart
APRSISCE/32 to fully effect your Configure / General / MyCall-SSID
change that you did at some point since the last restart.

As for the HT not doing messages, I'll leave that to a D72 owner.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Paul

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hillhouse"<fmhillhouse@>
wrote:
Excellent!

A GPS into the laptop directly can keep APRSIS32 centered on your
location.
Messages will be a bit easier with -8 as well.
Try this for messages: Check Toolbar => Configure => Messages => My
messages.
Any messages to your HT will be picked up on your laptop.

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH



_____

From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
Of kc2nyu
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 16:13
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: TH-D72A Sending Wrong Position ??




Fred- I believe you solved my problem with the reading assignments. I
failed
to realize that APRSIS32 running on the laptop was going to report its
position, along with the TH-D72A reporting its position. So the "wrong"
position being seen on the laptop, was solved by giving the laptop its
own
SSID (KC2NYU-8) and then doing a transmit centered on ME. It moved the
laptop icon to right position on the laptop screen.
-- the TH-D72A is transmitting it's position but not the laptops
position,
which I think is ok.
-- my goal is to use the laptop in the car hooked to the HT and have
APRSIS32 running on the laptop.

73 Paul

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Fred
Hillhouse"<fmhillhouse@> wrote:
Unfortunately I don't have a D72, so other users will need to pipe up
here.
Here is a link to port configuration on the WIKI.
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/port-configuration

I recommend reading this as well:
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/port:kenwood-tm-d710

It will be similar. It explains more than I know.

Certainly use a different SSID for the radio and APRSIS32. Not only is
this
HIGHLY recommended, it can help debugging.

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH





_____

From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
Behalf
Of kc2nyu
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 15:41
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: TH-D72A Sending Wrong Position ??




-Radio is in APRS12 mode.
-I am using AGW PE because I thought I needed it. Am running the same
duo
on
the main pc. Never tried APRSIS32 without the PE. How do I set up KISS
mode?
-HT is still running. although I just noticed its time is off by an
hour.

73 Paul KC2NYU

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> , "Fred
Hillhouse"<fmhillhouse@> wrote:
What mode is the D72 in? How old is the data you see for your HT?

The curious in me is asking why are you suing AGWPE? Can't you connect
the
HT directly to APRSIS32? If the HT is in PACKET mode, can you use KISS
in
APRSIS32 and have it work?

I haven't seen a packet from your HT in awhile. Is it still running?

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH



_____

From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of kc2nyu
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 15:09
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: TH-D72A Sending Wrong Position ??




Fred- sorry for confusion, I meant in the APRSIS32 program I am
running
on
the laptop, that the TH-D72A is plugged into. It still is showing
wrong
position on the laptop APRSIS32.

Paul

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> , "Fred
Hillhouse"<fmhillhouse@> wrote:
I looked at your -7 on my instance of APRSIS32. And, APRS.FI has it
correct
according to George.

When you originally said "APRSIS",what did you mean?

In APRSIS the position for the HT, KC2NYU-7 is being reported as 31
47.00N
81 26.30W.
Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH



_____

From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of kc2nyu
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 14:50
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: TH-D72A Sending Wrong Position ??




Radio is connected via usb port to com 3. I am running AGW Packet
engine
on
the laptop. SSID for HT is KC2NYU-7, not sure which radio settings to
list.
But what's interesting is as George noticed, kc2nyu-7 is reported
correctly
in APRS FI. And when I look at APRSIS32 that I am running on main PC
(KC2NYU-1), the position for the HT is also correct. So it has
something
to
do with the laptop.

Paul

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> , "Fred
Hillhouse"<fmhillhouse@> wrote:
Describe your ports, radio settings, SSIDs and anything else that
might
make
it less cryptic for the rest of us.

Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH



_____

From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of George D. Nincehelser
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 14:31
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] TH-D72A Sending Wrong Position ??




I looked on aprs.fi and it shows your correct position per your HT.


Yet you're seeing it wrong locally on APRSIS?


On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:14 PM, kc2nyu<eckerpw@> wrote:





I have my HT TH-D72A hooked to my laptop (Win 64) running APRSIS32
2012/04/06. The GPS on the HT says my position is 31 56.94N 81
02.03W
In APRSIS the position for the HT, KC2NYU-7 is being reported as 31
47.00N
81 26.30W.

I can't figure what is causing the difference. Any ideas?

Thanks& 73
Paul
KC2NYU


------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links





Re: FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

sbd sbd
 

And I should credit Alan G2DXU for helping with the test and supplying the photos

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: 11 May 2012 19:50
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

So, if I see those right, the PHG information is parsed and stripped off, but the trailing / AND the !DAO! are left in the humanly readable comment.  At least it's readable, anyway.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 1:40 PM, Steve Daniels wrote:

Hopefully the attached VX8 images will go through, if not will email Lynn direct

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: 10 May 2012 18:10
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

Actually, I'd be interested in seeing how the newly proposed FTM-350 workaround PHGnnnn/FFF.FFFMHz ... packets appear on the VX-8s display.  If the PHG is removed, whether or not the / is removed, and whether the frequency is visible or line-wrapped and how much of the subsequent information is included on the display.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/10/2012 12:35 PM, Bob Bruninga wrote:

Ø  I have a VX8 user local to me, I know it does not do QSY but I can check how it displays the information, if that’s a help

 

Thanks, but I believe the answer has been given that no, they do not.  Just the FTM-350.

 

Bob, WB4aPR

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of James Ewen
Sent: 10 May 2012 15:30
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@...> wrote:
>> It would be nice to have taken a bit of time to ensure
>> that the BASELINE is currently correct rather than firing
>> off something incomplete to the manufacturers.
>
> Relax.  How can we assure it is correct without involving them in that
> assessment?  Afterall, until Lynn came along, they were the ONLY players in
> the game!

Nailing an accurate definition down would be a first step, and then
assess the implementation.

> I have many DOZENS of emails over several years with them clarifying these
> details in the FREQ SPEC.  The SPEC evolved along with our mutual
> understanding.  And I guess that contributed somewhat to its poor
> organization.  Which I am trying to fix now.

I ended up working until midnight last night, so didn't get any time
to work on looking into your changes, nor towards creating a test
packet array to be used to identify the various implementations.

--
James
VE6SRV






 

 


Re: FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

sbd sbd
 

That looks to be the case, so it is usable

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: 11 May 2012 19:50
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

So, if I see those right, the PHG information is parsed and stripped off, but the trailing / AND the !DAO! are left in the humanly readable comment.  At least it's readable, anyway.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 1:40 PM, Steve Daniels wrote:

Hopefully the attached VX8 images will go through, if not will email Lynn direct

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: 10 May 2012 18:10
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

Actually, I'd be interested in seeing how the newly proposed FTM-350 workaround PHGnnnn/FFF.FFFMHz ... packets appear on the VX-8s display.  If the PHG is removed, whether or not the / is removed, and whether the frequency is visible or line-wrapped and how much of the subsequent information is included on the display.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/10/2012 12:35 PM, Bob Bruninga wrote:

Ø  I have a VX8 user local to me, I know it does not do QSY but I can check how it displays the information, if that’s a help

 

Thanks, but I believe the answer has been given that no, they do not.  Just the FTM-350.

 

Bob, WB4aPR

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of James Ewen
Sent: 10 May 2012 15:30
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@...> wrote:
>> It would be nice to have taken a bit of time to ensure
>> that the BASELINE is currently correct rather than firing
>> off something incomplete to the manufacturers.
>
> Relax.  How can we assure it is correct without involving them in that
> assessment?  Afterall, until Lynn came along, they were the ONLY players in
> the game!

Nailing an accurate definition down would be a first step, and then
assess the implementation.

> I have many DOZENS of emails over several years with them clarifying these
> details in the FREQ SPEC.  The SPEC evolved along with our mutual
> understanding.  And I guess that contributed somewhat to its poor
> organization.  Which I am trying to fix now.

I ended up working until midnight last night, so didn't get any time
to work on looking into your changes, nor towards creating a test
packet array to be used to identify the various implementations.

--
James
VE6SRV






 

 


Re: Scanning in comment

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

With no indication of the [scanning] status?  That's kind of less-than-helpful, isn't it?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 3:02 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
The D710 actually shows the frequency at the time of beacon if I recall correctly

Adam
KC2ANT

-----Original Message-----

From: Fred Hillhouse
Sent: 11 May 2012 18:44:32 GMT
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment

 

For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
correctly.

Best regards,

------------------------------------
Fred Hillhouse Jr
http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
------------------------------------



Re: Scanning in comment

Fred Hillhouse
 

I am pretty sure it does the [scanning] as well. If you have one, test it. Inquiring minds want to know for sure! :)
 
Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH
 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Adam Mahnke
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 15:03
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment

 

The D710 actually shows the frequency at the time of beacon if I recall correctly

Adam
KC2ANT

-----Original Message-----

From: Fred Hillhouse
Sent: 11 May 2012 18:44:32 GMT
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment

 

For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
correctly.

Best regards,

------------------------------------
Fred Hillhouse Jr
http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
------------------------------------


Re: Scanning in comment

Adam Mahnke <kc2ant@...>
 

The D710 actually shows the frequency at the time of beacon if I recall correctly

Adam
KC2ANT

-----Original Message-----

From: Fred Hillhouse
Sent: 11 May 2012 18:44:32 GMT
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Scanning in comment

 

For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
correctly.

Best regards,

------------------------------------
Fred Hillhouse Jr
http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
------------------------------------


Re: FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS) [3 Attachments]

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

So, if I see those right, the PHG information is parsed and stripped off, but the trailing / AND the !DAO! are left in the humanly readable comment.  At least it's readable, anyway.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/11/2012 1:40 PM, Steve Daniels wrote:

Hopefully the attached VX8 images will go through, if not will email Lynn direct

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: 10 May 2012 18:10
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

Actually, I'd be interested in seeing how the newly proposed FTM-350 workaround PHGnnnn/FFF.FFFMHz ... packets appear on the VX-8s display.  If the PHG is removed, whether or not the / is removed, and whether the frequency is visible or line-wrapped and how much of the subsequent information is included on the display.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/10/2012 12:35 PM, Bob Bruninga wrote:

Ø  I have a VX8 user local to me, I know it does not do QSY but I can check how it displays the information, if that’s a help

 

Thanks, but I believe the answer has been given that no, they do not.  Just the FTM-350.

 

Bob, WB4aPR

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of James Ewen
Sent: 10 May 2012 15:30
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@...> wrote:
>> It would be nice to have taken a bit of time to ensure
>> that the BASELINE is currently correct rather than firing
>> off something incomplete to the manufacturers.
>
> Relax.  How can we assure it is correct without involving them in that
> assessment?  Afterall, until Lynn came along, they were the ONLY players in
> the game!

Nailing an accurate definition down would be a first step, and then
assess the implementation.

> I have many DOZENS of emails over several years with them clarifying these
> details in the FREQ SPEC.  The SPEC evolved along with our mutual
> understanding.  And I guess that contributed somewhat to its poor
> organization.  Which I am trying to fix now.

I ended up working until midnight last night, so didn't get any time
to work on looking into your changes, nor towards creating a test
packet array to be used to identify the various implementations.

--
James
VE6SRV





 



Scanning in comment

Fred Hillhouse
 

For a station that is currently scanning, check out VA3BIT-6.
Notice the comment of [scanning]. The D710 is the same if I remember
correctly.

Best regards,

------------------------------------
Fred Hillhouse Jr
http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?N7FMH
------------------------------------


Re: FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

sbd sbd
 

Hopefully the attached VX8 images will go through, if not will email Lynn direct

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: 10 May 2012 18:10
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

Actually, I'd be interested in seeing how the newly proposed FTM-350 workaround PHGnnnn/FFF.FFFMHz ... packets appear on the VX-8s display.  If the PHG is removed, whether or not the / is removed, and whether the frequency is visible or line-wrapped and how much of the subsequent information is included on the display.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/10/2012 12:35 PM, Bob Bruninga wrote:

Ø  I have a VX8 user local to me, I know it does not do QSY but I can check how it displays the information, if that’s a help

 

Thanks, but I believe the answer has been given that no, they do not.  Just the FTM-350.

 

Bob, WB4aPR

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of James Ewen
Sent: 10 May 2012 15:30
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] FREQ OBJECT Uniqueness (Tones and OFFSETS)

 

 

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@...> wrote:
>> It would be nice to have taken a bit of time to ensure
>> that the BASELINE is currently correct rather than firing
>> off something incomplete to the manufacturers.
>
> Relax.  How can we assure it is correct without involving them in that
> assessment?  Afterall, until Lynn came along, they were the ONLY players in
> the game!

Nailing an accurate definition down would be a first step, and then
assess the implementation.

> I have many DOZENS of emails over several years with them clarifying these
> details in the FREQ SPEC.  The SPEC evolved along with our mutual
> understanding.  And I guess that contributed somewhat to its poor
> organization.  Which I am trying to fix now.

I ended up working until midnight last night, so didn't get any time
to work on looking into your changes, nor towards creating a test
packet array to be used to identify the various implementations.

--
James
VE6SRV





 


Re: Menus (Dev: 2012/05/11 00:46)

Adam Mahnke <kc2ant@...>
 

So, if I read it correctly, the newest update that I just installed fixed the problem.

Sorry, I wasn't much help, was working on the honey do list and wasn't home to be able to do any testing.

Seems to be working now.

Adam
KC2ANT


To: aprsisce@...
From: kj4erj@...
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 07:59:13 -0400
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: Menus (Dev: 2012/05/11 00:46)

 
And yet one more (yes, I'm full of questions on this one):

When you have the popup menu visible, are the APRS-IS OK words displayed
with a Yellow background? Especially the second time just before it
"locks up".

And does it lock up before displaying the menu or after?

And does it lock up if you choose an option other than "Follow (Center)"?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS. When a popup menu is displayed, the program is supposed to lock
down the station list to prevent it from internally re-organizing or
deleting (due to age) stations. Because updating stations with newly
received packets takes a performance hit from a non-sorted list, I
highlight the APRS-IS OK to know that this is occurring. Mostly for me,
because I have a habit of opening a popup station information box over a
MultiTrak and leaving it that way for hours... Most of you will never
notice the performance difference in this situation, but I'm a purist
sometimes.

On 5/11/2012 7:49 AM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:
> I tried to duplicate this and it works for me. I used the following
> sequence:
>
> 1) Click on a station to get the popup
> 2) Select "Follow (Center)" - Screen centers on that station
> 3) Hit "p" on the keyboard - Screen returns to preferred view
> 4) Click on the same station as (1) to get the popup
> 5) Select "Follow (Center)" - Screen centers on that station
> 6) APRSIS32 continues to operate normally
>
> Is it just one station or all stations that do this?
>
> What version of Windows are you running?
>
> Has anyone else seen a lockup doing anything similar (or dissimilar)
> with the normal click popup menu?
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>
> On 5/11/2012 7:20 AM, apenadragon wrote:
>> For some reason, when I click on -> Follow (Center) on a station, and then go back to the preferred view (by hitting "p" on the keyboard) and then I click on that same station again, it locks up my session and forces it to close. Has done it more than once.
>>
>> actually
>>
>> It seems to be happening a lot. :(
>>
>> Will send you an e-mail in a few with the log file
>>
>> Adam
>> KC2ANT
>>
>>
>> --- In aprsisce@..., "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" wrote:
>>> Ok, no real release notes this time, but I've completely redone the
>>> underpinnings of the left click popup menu. If you're used to using
>>> these menus, you should see no changes, but please exercise all the
>>> options to make sure I didn't bork anything.
>>>
>>> Oh, and there's two new options. A station with a track now offers
>>> "Drive Track". This is in addition to the single MultiLine objects that
>>> still support "Drive MultiLine".
>>>
>>> And the real reason for the menu reorganization was to bring back the
>>> ability to drive along a track. So, if you can actually find the point
>>> that's the beginning of a GPX-sourced route or track, you can drive
>>> along it. Pretty handy for preloading maps.
>>>
>>> Now, would you GPX users out there tell me what else you want to be able
>>> to do with clicking on GPX components? Not the individual track points,
>>> but basically anything that gets a label from a GPX, what should you be
>>> able to do?
>>>
>>> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Newbie Question

sbd sbd
 

I am using UZ7HO Sound Modem (AGWPE won’t work on my PC) into an FT-817 with the frequency set to 10.147.60 radio is in Digital USB mode, and the modem is set to 1700Hz

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle Moderator


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of w9kb
Sent: 11 May 2012 17:08
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: Newbie Question

 

 

I'm using a AWGPE & soundcard... no TNC. I noticed from the Wiki the frequency wiggled a bit depending upon interface. Still do not have a clear fix on the exact frequency.

Ken-W9KB

--- In aprsisce@..., "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" wrote:
>
> 10.147.600 USB if you're using KAM 1600/1800 tones.
>
> There's an excellent description of 30m APRS setup by WA8LMF at:
>
> http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/HF_APRS_Notes.htm
>
> http://wa8lmf.net/APRS_PSK63/index.htm
>
> (Pardon his UI-View-isms. We haven't completely converted Stephen yet.
> All will come in time.) (Just kidding Stephen! I know UI-View still
> has a place in the APRS world.)
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>
> On 5/11/2012 8:54 AM, w9kb wrote:
> > What is the correct dial frequency for 30m when I am using APRS-IS32 and sound card setup? USB/LSB?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Ken-W9KB
> >
> >
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Click-fixed? (Dev: 2012/05/11 11:46)

Brian
 

Fixed for me also. Thanks Lynn.

Brian
N5BRJ

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Hopefully this fixes the click/crash issue in the menus. The problem
would occur if the total number of popup menu items displayed (left in
map, either in scroller) exceeded the total station count known to the
program. The old way of doing menus used the station index as the ID
and the new way just sequentially assigns the IDs and stores a separate
pointer to the station. I missed one place where the ID was still being
interpreted as a station index.

I never saw this because most of my instances use Save Posits so I
nearly always have thousands of stations in my list and never clicked
enough for the ID to exceed the station count.

Those of you that observed this issue, let me know if it still happens
after upgrading to 2012/05/11 11:46 (or later).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ4 - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

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