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Re: Basic Information

Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@...>
 

Dunno. This is a support group for APRSISCE not UI-VIEW.

On 27-May-11 01:40, eldon.richardson@... wrote:
I am fairly new at ui-0view so please bear with me. 1st question: what do the 6 small green squares at the top middle of the ui-view main screen? what do they tell me if some change to red every now and then?? I have not been able to find any information in any thing I have here.. 2ns question: are they any good articles on creating and installing maps?? Picked up pieces of information but nothing in full.. tnx



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Basic Information

eldon.richardson@att.net <eldon.richardson@...>
 

I am fairly new at ui-0view so please bear with me. 1st question: what do the 6 small green squares at the top middle of the ui-view main screen? what do they tell me if some change to red every now and then?? I have not been able to find any information in any thing I have here.. 2ns question: are they any good articles on creating and installing maps?? Picked up pieces of information but nothing in full.. tnx


Re: wiki update done

James Ewen
 

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Carl Davis <kb1ejh@...> wrote:

The only point of having the DE7-7 is to keep it in section
and if all that it does is that than it is working fine.
Well, actually that is not correct.

I could care less about "forensic tracing" at this point.
That type of thinking is why there are so many problems with the APRS
network. People that just do whatever they want to get the end results
they desire end up causing problems for others. In crowded areas where
there is too much activity to be supported on the channel, the
standard "answer" that usually gets spouted out is, "Put a higher gain
antenna on your dumb tracker, and run at 50 watts... you'll get the
attention of the digipeater that way." rather than the proper
solution, which is to reduce the load on the network to where it can
support the user density. This means reducing path lengths and
possibly moving digipeaters down from high points where they can hear
over huge areas.

If we don't get more operators here there will be no tracing to be done...
Are you feeling over run by the neighbors, and feeling like you HAVE
to make noise to ensure you stake your claim? Yes, your area is not
over run with operators, but there's no need to try and compete with
Baltimore and Washington to try and have as many icons on the screen
in your area as they have over there...

To be fair, running SSn-N using the UIFLOOD configuration is not going
to break anything, and not cause the sky to fall down. I'm just trying
to ensure that people don't start thinking that running SSn-N
digipeating using the UIFLOOD configuration is the proper way to do
it. We're still trying to get people to fix configuration issues from
nearly 10 years ago still no need to have a new issue get implemented
that we have to try and correct later. An ounce of prevention is worth
a pound of cure.

James
VE6SRV


Re: wiki update done

Carl Davis
 

The only point of having the DE7-7 is to keep it in section and if all that it does is that than it is working fine. I could care less about "forensic tracing" at this point. If we don't get more operators here there will be no tracing to be done...
Carl

Sent from my iPod

On May 26, 2011, at 10:41 AM, James Ewen <ve6srv@...> wrote:

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Carl Davis <kb1ejh@...> wrote:

Well there could be worse problems...like bouncing all over the
DC/Baltimore area.
Yes, using the existing DIGIFORM with DEn-N will keep the packets in
Delaware only, but as I said, trying to figure out what happened to
the packet after the fact would be a nightmare.

Looks like it is inserting the ID rather than NOID.
ID vs NOID is a totally different issue than the difference between
UIFLOOD and UITRACE callsign insertion differences. APRSISCE/32 CANNOT
do UIFLOOD with NOID, it can't even pretend to do that.

James
VE6SRV


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Re: New version and error reports

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

The WinMo version seems to have an issue if you close it with the GPS enabled. To avoid these (apparently recoverable) errors please disable the GPS before restarting the client until I get back in the saddle to duplicate and fix this.

The real problem is that I keep my APRSISCE up 24x7 but disable the GPS every time I go indoors. Since nearly all of my restarts are while indoors, the GPS is never enabled when I close the client, ergo, I never see the problem.

I will get it fixed though!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ/EA3 - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/26/2011 8:53 AM, kg0pbya wrote:
I was on weather spotting duties when AprsIs asked to do an update. I selected ok, after the update the system asked to send 3 error reports to Microsoft. The program appears to be working even though errors are indicated. I am running this on a Touch Pro 2 with WinMo 6.5, any clues on fixing this issue?



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Re: Weather Setup

Rud Merriam <k5rud@...>
 

That is what I saw, also. Surrounding counties would lite up but not mine. I also think that surrounding counties did not light up when the warning included my county. For instance, a warning went out for Walker County north of me and my county, Montgomery. Neither county lit up.

It this isn't a bug then there is probably some magic incantation of the NWS message / message (not) settings.

- 73 -
Rud Merriam K5RUD
Emergency Coordinator
Montgomery County ARES®
Mystic Lake Software

On 5/26/2011 5:05 AM, Hank Lambert wrote:

 

I asked the same question a few weeks ago and never got a response. We were in the middle of a severe weather warning, and I received the messages. All surrounding counties turned yellow except my county, which had no color at all. I added a screenshot, but no one replied. I am hoping that they will reply to your question and I can see if mine is working as well.

 

Good luck with your tests, and please keep us informed on what you find.

 

73,

 

 

Hank Lambert

KB4MTO/TA5ZC

hank@...

kb4mto@...

www.hanklambert.com

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From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Rud Merriam
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:13 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Weather Setup

 

 

I am trying to get weather alerts setup. I followed the Wiki instructions: firenet setup, shape files downloaded and add / active, and weather office (HGX) added. If I do a "showme" I get shapes appearing and I can also pop-up the area for HGX.

Filter currently is: filter -s/w -e/WXSVR-AU p/HGX

I just got an alert and the chat opened. But shouldn't I get a shape or something in addition? All I got was a chat comment about server weather.

When I clicked on the upper right to get the alert it brought up a dialog with 3 buttons. How do I get back to that dialog? What do each of those buttons do?

I expect more alerts tonight so it is a good time for me to experiment.

--

- 73 -
Rud Merriam K5RUD
Emergency Coordinator
Montgomery County ARES®
Mystic Lake Software


Re: wiki update done

James Ewen
 

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Carl Davis <kb1ejh@...> wrote:

Well there could be worse problems...like bouncing all over the
DC/Baltimore area.
Yes, using the existing DIGIFORM with DEn-N will keep the packets in
Delaware only, but as I said, trying to figure out what happened to
the packet after the fact would be a nightmare.

 Looks like it is inserting the ID rather than NOID.
ID vs NOID is a totally different issue than the difference between
UIFLOOD and UITRACE callsign insertion differences. APRSISCE/32 CANNOT
do UIFLOOD with NOID, it can't even pretend to do that.

James
VE6SRV


Re: wiki update done

Scott Gillis N3UJJ
 

N3UJJ (aprsis32) (iGate&DiGI)

N3UJJ-6 (KPC+3) (DiGi)

Are Baltimore Annapolis area

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 09:07
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] wiki update done

 




Do you have someone monitoring the DC/Baltimore area via RF? An internet monitor probably won't prove anything one way or another.

 

I have a KPC3+ in a semi-remote place setup for UIFlood but I haven't really thought of how to test it. I am open for ideas.

 

Thanks!

 

Best regards,

Fred, N7FMH

 

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Carl Davis
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 08:38
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] wiki update done

 

Well there could be worse problems...like bouncing all over the DC/Baltimore area. Looks like it is inserting the ID rather than NOID.
Carl

--- On Thu, 5/26/11, James Ewen <ve6srv@...> wrote:

> From: James Ewen <ve6srv@...>
> Subject: Re: [aprsisce] wiki update done
> To: aprsisce@...
> Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 1:23 AM
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 PM,
> Carl Davis <kb1ejh@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Great glad to hear it. Was working for me this evening
> OK........
>
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,DE7-5,qAR,W2CMC:
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,DE7-5,qAR,N3HF-5:
>
> We can see that -1 (APRSISCE/32) is doing callsign
> insertion, and
> decrementing the ssid, and we can also see that -15 (a
> KPC-3+ v9.1) is
> overwriting the callsign of the digipeater that handled the
> first hop,
> as it should. However, what happens when -1 is the second,
> third, or
> beyond digipeater to act upon the packet?
>
> You will see something like this happening:
>
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-5,qAR,W2CMC:
>
> which is NOT proper operation for a SSn-N digipeater.
>
> James
> VE6SRV
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     aprsisce-fullfeatured@...
>
>
>





Re: wiki update done

sbd sbd
 

I was aware that UIFLOOD was not really supported just that what you had written  was the closest to it at the moment, that’s sort of why it went in docs rather than digi

But I will move it

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of James Ewen
Sent: 26 May 2011 05:53
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] wiki update done

 

 

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Carl Davis <kb1ejh@...> wrote:

> I see there is UIFlood info there now, thanks.

I just want to reiterate that APRSISCE/32 does NOT support UIFLOOD
digipeating currently.

Lynn asked what the difference was, which I described.

I have added further clarification to the UIFLOOD page (which should
be a subpage of the digipeating page).

James
VE6SRV


Re: wiki update done

Fred Hillhouse
 

Do you have someone monitoring the DC/Baltimore area via RF? An internet monitor probably won't prove anything one way or another.
 
I have a KPC3+ in a semi-remote place setup for UIFlood but I haven't really thought of how to test it. I am open for ideas.
 
Thanks!
 
Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH
 
 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Carl Davis
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 08:38
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] wiki update done

 

Well there could be worse problems...like bouncing all over the DC/Baltimore area. Looks like it is inserting the ID rather than NOID.
Carl

--- On Thu, 5/26/11, James Ewen <ve6srv@...> wrote:

> From: James Ewen <ve6srv@...>
> Subject: Re: [aprsisce] wiki update done
> To: aprsisce@...
> Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 1:23 AM
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 PM,
> Carl Davis <kb1ejh@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Great glad to hear it. Was working for me this evening
> OK........
>
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,DE7-5,qAR,W2CMC:
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,DE7-5,qAR,N3HF-5:
>
> We can see that -1 (APRSISCE/32) is doing callsign
> insertion, and
> decrementing the ssid, and we can also see that -15 (a
> KPC-3+ v9.1) is
> overwriting the callsign of the digipeater that handled the
> first hop,
> as it should. However, what happens when -1 is the second,
> third, or
> beyond digipeater to act upon the packet?
>
> You will see something like this happening:
>
> KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-5,qAR,W2CMC:
>
> which is NOT proper operation for a SSn-N digipeater.
>
> James
> VE6SRV
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     aprsisce-fullfeatured@...
>
>
>


New version and error reports

kg0pbya <sauron@...>
 

I was on weather spotting duties when AprsIs asked to do an update. I selected ok, after the update the system asked to send 3 error reports to Microsoft. The program appears to be working even though errors are indicated. I am running this on a Touch Pro 2 with WinMo 6.5, any clues on fixing this issue?


Re: wiki update done

Carl Davis
 

Well there could be worse problems...like bouncing all over the DC/Baltimore area. Looks like it is inserting the ID rather than NOID.
Carl

--- On Thu, 5/26/11, James Ewen <ve6srv@...> wrote:

From: James Ewen <ve6srv@...>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] wiki update done
To: aprsisce@...
Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 1:23 AM
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 PM,
Carl Davis <kb1ejh@...>
wrote:

Great glad to hear it. Was working for me this evening
OK........

KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,DE7-5,qAR,W2CMC:
KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,DE7-5,qAR,N3HF-5:

We can see that -1 (APRSISCE/32) is doing callsign
insertion, and
decrementing the ssid, and we can also see that -15 (a
KPC-3+ v9.1) is
overwriting the callsign of the digipeater that handled the
first hop,
as it should. However, what happens when -1 is the second,
third, or
beyond digipeater to act upon the packet?

You will see something like this happening:

KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-5,qAR,W2CMC:

which is NOT proper operation for a SSn-N digipeater.

James
VE6SRV


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Re: Weather Setup

Hank Lambert (KB4MTO)
 

I asked the same question a few weeks ago and never got a response. We were in the middle of a severe weather warning, and I received the messages. All surrounding counties turned yellow except my county, which had no color at all. I added a screenshot, but no one replied. I am hoping that they will reply to your question and I can see if mine is working as well.

 

Good luck with your tests, and please keep us informed on what you find.

 

73,

 

 

Hank Lambert

KB4MTO/TA5ZC

hank@...

kb4mto@...

www.hanklambert.com

PGP Key: 0x96D33D71

 

 

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Rud Merriam
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:13 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Weather Setup

 

 

I am trying to get weather alerts setup. I followed the Wiki instructions: firenet setup, shape files downloaded and add / active, and weather office (HGX) added. If I do a "showme" I get shapes appearing and I can also pop-up the area for HGX.

Filter currently is: filter -s/w -e/WXSVR-AU p/HGX

I just got an alert and the chat opened. But shouldn't I get a shape or something in addition? All I got was a chat comment about server weather.

When I clicked on the upper right to get the alert it brought up a dialog with 3 buttons. How do I get back to that dialog? What do each of those buttons do?

I expect more alerts tonight so it is a good time for me to experiment.

--

- 73 -
Rud Merriam K5RUD
Emergency Coordinator
Montgomery County ARES®
Mystic Lake Software


Re: wiki update done

James Ewen
 

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Carl Davis <kb1ejh@...> wrote:

Great glad to hear it. Was working for me this evening OK........
KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,DE7-5,qAR,W2CMC:
KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH*,DE7-6,qAR,N3HF-5:
KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,DE7-5,qAR,N3HF-5:

We can see that -1 (APRSISCE/32) is doing callsign insertion, and
decrementing the ssid, and we can also see that -15 (a KPC-3+ v9.1) is
overwriting the callsign of the digipeater that handled the first hop,
as it should. However, what happens when -1 is the second, third, or
beyond digipeater to act upon the packet?

You will see something like this happening:

KB1EJH-7>S8TY0P,KB1EJH-15*,KB1EJH-1*,DE7-5,qAR,W2CMC:

which is NOT proper operation for a SSn-N digipeater.

James
VE6SRV


Re: wiki update done

Carl Davis
 

Great glad to hear it. Was working for me this evening OK........
Carl

Sent from my iPod

On May 26, 2011, at 12:53 AM, James Ewen <ve6srv@...> wrote:

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Carl Davis <kb1ejh@...> wrote:

I see there is UIFlood info there now, thanks.
I just want to reiterate that APRSISCE/32 does NOT support UIFLOOD
digipeating currently.

Lynn asked what the difference was, which I described.

I have added further clarification to the UIFLOOD page (which should
be a subpage of the digipeating page).

James
VE6SRV


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Re: wiki update done

James Ewen
 

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Carl Davis <kb1ejh@...> wrote:

I see there is UIFlood info there now, thanks.
I just want to reiterate that APRSISCE/32 does NOT support UIFLOOD
digipeating currently.

Lynn asked what the difference was, which I described.

I have added further clarification to the UIFLOOD page (which should
be a subpage of the digipeating page).

James
VE6SRV


Re: wiki update done

Carl Davis
 

I see there is UIFlood info there now, thanks.
Carl

Sent from my iPod

On May 25, 2011, at 6:17 PM, "Steve Daniels" <steve@...> wrote:

I have been doing a wiki update, others do that to, but if it’s wrong it’s probably my fault.

Have a look and let me know what you think

 

Steve Daniels

G6UIM

 


Weather Setup

Rud Merriam <k5rud@...>
 

I am trying to get weather alerts setup. I followed the Wiki instructions: firenet setup, shape files downloaded and add / active, and weather office (HGX) added. If I do a "showme" I get shapes appearing and I can also pop-up the area for HGX.

Filter currently is: filter -s/w -e/WXSVR-AU p/HGX

I just got an alert and the chat opened. But shouldn't I get a shape or something in addition? All I got was a chat comment about server weather.

When I clicked on the upper right to get the alert it brought up a dialog with 3 buttons. How do I get back to that dialog? What do each of those buttons do?

I expect more alerts tonight so it is a good time for me to experiment.
--

- 73 -
Rud Merriam K5RUD
Emergency Coordinator
Montgomery County ARES®
Mystic Lake Software


YAFR (yet another feature request)

Greg D
 

Hi Lynn,

For consideration for your queue when you get back all rested from your trip, and itching to get back into coding...

One thing that has bugged me about objects, and NWS objects in particular, is that one gets notified when the object comes in, but you appear to have no way to know where it is. Sure, you can pan around, but if there are multiple ones, or if it's fairly well off-screen, it's hard to know what's happening. And, of course, since it's a weather alert, there's probably something important to know, which just raises the anxiety level when you can't find out. Today's event was a tornado that touched down about 60 mi north of here. Apparently scared the paddies out of some cows, but no body hurt, thankfully.

Would this be possible as an enhancement: When a message arrives (not just NWS - any message), you get the nice notification on the screen. Click on it and it gives you a dialog box to open a chat. All this works today, all wonderful. Now, the enhancement: Could there then either be displayed right there in the dialog box (or in a new dialog box by clicking a "More Info" button) to tell me what and where the station/object is? I'm thinking the same information that's displayed when clicking on a station: call sign, symbol, 55mi NNE, so many degrees, time, etc. It would also be nice to be able to open a MultiTrack window from the initial dialog box too.

Hope you're having a good trip. Safe travels,

Greg KO6TH


Re: Section-Region Digipeating

Carl Davis
 

Lynn and all the rest,
Thanks for the help, I got the UIFLOOD and WIDE both working with APRSIS32 on the KPC-3+.
Great program Lynn!
Carl,KB1EJH