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Re: Need help

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

You need to edit the <Latitude> and <Longitude> tags that should be between the <Orientation> and <APRSPort> tags. The other two that you mentioned are only for restoring various map view later. This would explain the problem getting your laptop out of Africa.

If that doesn't work, please e-mail me your .XML file and I'll see what else might be going worng.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

jandgandjochem wrote:

Thanks again for your help.

I still cannot get my laptop to show on the map correctly.

Tried correcting the lattitude and longitude in the XML file as you advised but the laptop symbol keeps staying in west Africa whereas I am in Australia.

Everything else appears to be working fine. All other stations including my 2 TM-d710s are showing correctly on the map.


Guess my next question is: In the XML file should I edit the coordinates under "Center lattitude and Center Logitude" or under Prefered lattitude and Prefered logitude or both?


As said, all else seems to work. I am on the T2Texas status page, can send messages from laptop to 710 and back.


I think we are almost there but not quite yet.

Thanks so much. This program is great to use and I am starting to like it a lot.

Gerard
VK2JNG

Laptop = VK2JNG-10
710 (RV) = VK2JNG-12
710 (Car) = VK2JNG-9








--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Ok, I do believe you have your coordinates entered wrong and believe that your own station is not showing up because it's actually somewhere completely different than where you're looking. Before we make changes, try zooming way out on the map and see if you see a small laptop icon over in Africa. If so, click on it and select the Center option, even if it is already set. That will re-center on you. Zoom on in to a comfortable level (bear with me on this) being careful not to pan the map at all. Close the program with that view.

With the program CLOSED, edit the XML file and fix your Lat/Lon settings. As was pointed out by Colin,. North and East are positive, South and Wests are negative. According to http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-10, you are NE implying that both are positive right now.

2010-02-28 06:51:37 UTC: VK2JNG-10>APWW00,TCPIP*,qAC,T2TEXAS:@000000h0319.34N/01403.75ElAPRS-IS for CE

According to VK2JNG-12, you want to be somewhere near 35 15 00 S 149 25 00 E (in dd mm ss format). Using the converter at http://www.geocaching.com/wpt/default.aspx that tells us that is -35.25 149.41667 in decimal degrees. These are the numbers you need to enter in the XML configuration file.

Once that is done, restart the client and you should be closer to where you want to be. If that's not exact, find out what you really want, run it through the converter, CLOSE the program, edit the numbers, restart the program and eventually you'll be where you want to be.

I apologize for the obtuseness of this setting, but the program was originally designed for use as a mobile or ate least with a live GPS. I've got a ToDo item on my list (see the most recent release notes on the Yahoo Group) to add a "Set My Coordinate" popup menu option, but I haven't gotten it done just yet.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

jandgandjochem wrote:

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:

What map are you referring to at this point? VK2JNG-10 shows up fine on
aprs.fi. The raw packets show some transmissions recently:

http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-10&limit=50

*******It shows up but the location on APRS.fi is totally incorrect. ******




Force just asks the client to beacon a position when it is allowed to.
Do you have a GPS connected to the laptop or are you using a static
position?
*******No GPS as yet. Using static position and edited the XML file.****



My question at the moment is: Should the VK2JNG-10 (Laptop running APRSISCE win32) be showing up on the map in your program??? At the moment it is not.





Read about the APRS OK window at
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/screen-features This page also discusses
the text that appears below that describing the beaconing features as
well as the colored bars in that portion of the screen.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

jandgandjochem wrote:

Ok, this is what I got sofar:

1 of 710 in the car being VK2JNG-9
1 of 710 in the Caravan (RV) being VK2JNG-12
1 of APRSISCE Win 32 on my laptop being VK2JNG-10 in the caravan.

When beaconing I can see the 710 in the car (VK2JNG-9) on the map as well as the 710 in the caravan (RV) (VK2JNG-12)

I can send messages to and from all the above three.

I can also see VK2JNG-10 (Laptop) on the T2Texas status page with YES in the 4th column.

However, when I force a TX from the Laptop (VK2JNG-10) I can't see that on the map.


Getting closer by the minute here with your help which is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Gerard
VK2JNG






--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:

Ok, I think you're real close, but not quite there. I really wish I had finished my ToDo item of showing port status better...

First, at http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-12 I'm seeing the first indication of the problem. Every APRS station must have it's own -SSID. It's not a good idea to share them and VK2JNG-12 is being used by your Kenwood directly. You need a different callsign on APRSISCE.

jandgandjochem wrote:

Can't get myself on the map yet??
Have you entered in an APRS-IS password and followed the on-screen instructions to zoom in on your home location on the first execution?
Yes I have entered my callsign and SSID being VK2JNG-12
VK2JNG-12 has not directly beaconed to APRS-IS yet. I suspect the password you entered is not correct for your callsign. If you bring up the "Info" popup by clicking on your station (hopefully in the center of the screen), it will list the APRS-IS server to which you are connected, both as a DNS and as an IP address. Use the IP address and point your browser to http://<That.IP.Address>:14501 (note the colon in there). I know the client said :14580, but the status page is at :14501. Once you get the status page, search for your callsign and check what it says in the "Verified" (4th) column. I suspect it doesn't say "Yes". (BTW, Ctrl-F is a quick way to Find your callsign on the status page).

If you need an APRS-IS password, e-mail me directly at KJ4ERJ@ and I'll generate one for you.


Trying to use it with my Kenwood 710.
What connection are you using to the 710? Did you configure the correct COM port and baud rate under Configure / KISS? Is the 710 in KISS mode?

I use the com port on the panel of the 710 (Display unit) and via a RS232 to USB converter made by KeySpan to USB com port 7 on the PC.
This has always worked fine when updating firmware and saving database etc.
Under configure > Kiss I get a window asking for IP/DNS and port.
Have not yet configured anything there.
When you click the KISS button on the Configuration dialog, click NO to the "TCP/IP Port?" question. That will get you into the serial port configuration page for the KISS TNC interface. Set it all up as you need to.


I have configured the com port on the Kenwood Menu 519 to 9600 and in the program under Configure > NMEA I have 9600; COM 7; Parity None; Data 8 and Stop 1.
Does the Kenwood put NMEA GPS data out the serial port? I don't think so. You need to clear all of the NMEA configuration options since you probably used the same port that you need to use under KISS. If you want a GPS, you'll need to provide for another one since I don't think the Kenwood can share that data with the PC while it is in KISS mode.


Note: I can see other local stations appearing on the screen but not my station. BTW On APRS.fi I appear ok as VK2JNG-12
In the scrolling station list, do those stations have * beside them? If so, they're coming from the KISS port (doubtful). If not, they're coming from APRS-IS, which is probably rejecting your beacons without the proper password.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks so much for your help.

Gerard
VK2JNG






I'd suggest getting the APRS-IS functions working first and then we can work on the RF side of things.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks heaps,

Gerard
VK2JNG



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Re: Need help

jandgandjochem <vk2jng@...>
 

Thanks again for your help.

I still cannot get my laptop to show on the map correctly.

Tried correcting the lattitude and longitude in the XML file as you advised but the laptop symbol keeps staying in west Africa whereas I am in Australia.

Everything else appears to be working fine. All other stations including my 2 TM-d710s are showing correctly on the map.


Guess my next question is: In the XML file should I edit the coordinates under "Center lattitude and Center Logitude" or under Prefered lattitude and Prefered logitude or both?


As said, all else seems to work. I am on the T2Texas status page, can send messages from laptop to 710 and back.


I think we are almost there but not quite yet.

Thanks so much. This program is great to use and I am starting to like it a lot.

Gerard
VK2JNG

Laptop = VK2JNG-10
710 (RV) = VK2JNG-12
710 (Car) = VK2JNG-9

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Ok, I do believe you have your coordinates entered wrong and believe
that your own station is not showing up because it's actually somewhere
completely different than where you're looking. Before we make changes,
try zooming way out on the map and see if you see a small laptop icon
over in Africa. If so, click on it and select the Center option, even
if it is already set. That will re-center on you. Zoom on in to a
comfortable level (bear with me on this) being careful not to pan the
map at all. Close the program with that view.

With the program CLOSED, edit the XML file and fix your Lat/Lon
settings. As was pointed out by Colin,. North and East are positive,
South and Wests are negative. According to
http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-10, you are NE implying that both are
positive right now.

2010-02-28 06:51:37 UTC:
VK2JNG-10>APWW00,TCPIP*,qAC,T2TEXAS:@000000h0319.34N/01403.75ElAPRS-IS
for CE

According to VK2JNG-12, you want to be somewhere near 35 15 00 S 149 25
00 E (in dd mm ss format). Using the converter at
http://www.geocaching.com/wpt/default.aspx that tells us that is -35.25
149.41667 in decimal degrees. These are the numbers you need to enter
in the XML configuration file.

Once that is done, restart the client and you should be closer to where
you want to be. If that's not exact, find out what you really want, run
it through the converter, CLOSE the program, edit the numbers, restart
the program and eventually you'll be where you want to be.

I apologize for the obtuseness of this setting, but the program was
originally designed for use as a mobile or ate least with a live GPS.
I've got a ToDo item on my list (see the most recent release notes on
the Yahoo Group) to add a "Set My Coordinate" popup menu option, but I
haven't gotten it done just yet.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

jandgandjochem wrote:
--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:

What map are you referring to at this point? VK2JNG-10 shows up fine on
aprs.fi. The raw packets show some transmissions recently:

http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-10&limit=50

*******It shows up but the location on APRS.fi is totally incorrect. ******




Force just asks the client to beacon a position when it is allowed to.
Do you have a GPS connected to the laptop or are you using a static
position?
*******No GPS as yet. Using static position and edited the XML file.****



My question at the moment is: Should the VK2JNG-10 (Laptop running APRSISCE win32) be showing up on the map in your program??? At the moment it is not.





Read about the APRS OK window at
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/screen-features This page also discusses
the text that appears below that describing the beaconing features as
well as the colored bars in that portion of the screen.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

jandgandjochem wrote:

Ok, this is what I got sofar:

1 of 710 in the car being VK2JNG-9
1 of 710 in the Caravan (RV) being VK2JNG-12
1 of APRSISCE Win 32 on my laptop being VK2JNG-10 in the caravan.

When beaconing I can see the 710 in the car (VK2JNG-9) on the map as well as the 710 in the caravan (RV) (VK2JNG-12)

I can send messages to and from all the above three.

I can also see VK2JNG-10 (Laptop) on the T2Texas status page with YES in the 4th column.

However, when I force a TX from the Laptop (VK2JNG-10) I can't see that on the map.


Getting closer by the minute here with your help which is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Gerard
VK2JNG






--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:


Ok, I think you're real close, but not quite there. I really wish I had
finished my ToDo item of showing port status better...

First, at http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-12 I'm seeing the first
indication of the problem. Every APRS station must have it's own
-SSID. It's not a good idea to share them and VK2JNG-12 is being used
by your Kenwood directly. You need a different callsign on APRSISCE.

jandgandjochem wrote:


Can't get myself on the map yet??



Have you entered in an APRS-IS password and followed the on-screen
instructions to zoom in on your home location on the first execution?


Yes I have entered my callsign and SSID being VK2JNG-12


VK2JNG-12 has not directly beaconed to APRS-IS yet. I suspect the
password you entered is not correct for your callsign. If you bring up
the "Info" popup by clicking on your station (hopefully in the center of
the screen), it will list the APRS-IS server to which you are connected,
both as a DNS and as an IP address. Use the IP address and point your
browser to http://<That.IP.Address>:14501 (note the colon in there). I
know the client said :14580, but the status page is at :14501. Once you
get the status page, search for your callsign and check what it says in
the "Verified" (4th) column. I suspect it doesn't say "Yes". (BTW,
Ctrl-F is a quick way to Find your callsign on the status page).

If you need an APRS-IS password, e-mail me directly at KJ4ERJ@
and I'll generate one for you.



Trying to use it with my Kenwood 710.



What connection are you using to the 710? Did you configure the correct
COM port and baud rate under Configure / KISS? Is the 710 in KISS mode?



I use the com port on the panel of the 710 (Display unit) and via a RS232 to USB converter made by KeySpan to USB com port 7 on the PC.
This has always worked fine when updating firmware and saving database etc.
Under configure > Kiss I get a window asking for IP/DNS and port.
Have not yet configured anything there.


When you click the KISS button on the Configuration dialog, click NO to
the "TCP/IP Port?" question. That will get you into the serial port
configuration page for the KISS TNC interface. Set it all up as you
need to.



I have configured the com port on the Kenwood Menu 519 to 9600 and in the program under Configure > NMEA I have 9600; COM 7; Parity None; Data 8 and Stop 1.


Does the Kenwood put NMEA GPS data out the serial port? I don't think
so. You need to clear all of the NMEA configuration options since you
probably used the same port that you need to use under KISS. If you
want a GPS, you'll need to provide for another one since I don't think
the Kenwood can share that data with the PC while it is in KISS mode.



Note: I can see other local stations appearing on the screen but not my station. BTW On APRS.fi I appear ok as VK2JNG-12


In the scrolling station list, do those stations have * beside them? If
so, they're coming from the KISS port (doubtful). If not, they're
coming from APRS-IS, which is probably rejecting your beacons without
the proper password.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



Thanks so much for your help.

Gerard
VK2JNG








I'd suggest getting the APRS-IS functions working first and then we can
work on the RF side of things.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32




Thanks heaps,

Gerard
VK2JNG



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prefetching tiles

kc9gqr <kc9gqr@...>
 

when prefetching tiles is there a way to change how many zoom levels is prefetched? i think its 5 but can you cange it to like 15 in the xml file?


Pre-Fetching

Fred Hillhouse
 

Hi Lynn,


I use Prefetch. It is a good feature. I did not realize how deep it worked until just reading the WIKI. So I now prefetch from multiple levels. Since my laptop in not online normal, I prefetch whole areas at a time.

Here are some thoughts.

Is there a reason to limit the prefetch depth? Why not allow the user the ability to download to any depth?

In other software I have, the user selects the zoom levels for tile retrieval.

In that same package, the author has also limited the zoom levels to:
1/4M, 1M, 4M, 16M, 64M and 256M per pixel. The maps are USGS topo, aerial and urban tiles from the TerraServer.

I was also thinking the ability to prefetch all tiles below the current level when the map is moved is possibly useful. Obviously this can be very time and space consuming. But if the user could select the levels he/she needed, then only the levels select would be fetched.

One reason this is useful to me is that I run a GPS simulator and have been retrieving tiles automatically. This has been useful so far in getting tiles for areas that I am interested in (mainly traveling to and from and though) and it would allow a single pass.


Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH


Re: New User with a couple of comments.....

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Gary Sanders wrote:

I noticed that if I stopped and restarted the program, the data received
matched only the current filter setting. Does this imply that a
disconnection from the server, then a reconnection would reset the
filter setting? If so, would it be worthwhile to do that
programmatically after a user induced move of X distance? I suppose the effort to "fix" it would have to be weighed against the results obtained , considering that probably most people wouldn't be jumping around viewing one location after another as I do on occasion, but rather looking at their local area.
You can force the APRS-IS server to disconnect and re-connect by
toggling Enables / APRS-IS Enabled off then back on. I'll post a
question on the javAPRSSrvr Yahoo group about this filter behavior.

I run APRSISCE on my AT&T Tilt (HTC TyTN II) Windows Mobile phone 24x7
with a normal filter of 100 miles radius. I routinely jump around to
other APRS users and have not yet noticed an ill effects (or warnings)
from my cellular provider.

If you double-click on the "APRS OK" pane (I really need to name these
things), it will give you a popup showing the APRS traffic since the
client was started. It shows both packets and bytes, sent, received and
total. For the OSM data, double-click an empty area on the map. If any
tiles have been fetched, it will give the total count and sent,
received, and total bytes involved in that data communications as well.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: New User with a couple of comments.....

Gary Sanders
 

Lynn W. Deffenbaugh wrote:
Gary Sanders wrote:
Finally, if you Center on another station, the client automatically builds a Friend filter using the same Range number as the circle
around that centered station. The APRS-IS seems to be semi-sticky on
the friend filter. Once you center on a station, you seem to continue
getting the range around that station even after the client has
removed the friend filter from the active filter string.
I believe this is what I'm seeing. I reset the XML file to point to the
default servers (as opposed to my uiview server) and played with it some
more this morning. If I didn't move to a different location, the
positions received were all from the area of the centered station. As
soon as I moved to a different location, I started receiving stations
from the new location. I also continued to receive stations from the
former location. When I moved to a third location, I received the new
location's stations, PLUS the previous two locations. After moving to
seven or eight locations around the country, the data stream was pretty
huge.

I'm using this on Win7 at home, and the data consumption isn't a major
issue, but if I were using it on a smart phone with a restrictive data
plan (as most are in one form or another) I'd be concerned about the
bandwidth consumed. Within the APRS server network is there a method to
force a server to feed data matching only the most recent filter
setting, without the carryover of data from previous settings?

I noticed that if I stopped and restarted the program, the data received
matched only the current filter setting. Does this imply that a
disconnection from the server, then a reconnection would reset the
filter setting? If so, would it be worthwhile to do that
programmatically after a user induced move of X distance? I suppose the effort to "fix" it would have to be weighed against the results obtained , considering that probably most people wouldn't be jumping around viewing one location after another as I do on occasion, but rather looking at their local area.

APRSISCE would be perfect for me if it did two things that I can't
seem to make it do now:
1) Optionally default to Tracking Enabled upon startup.
This is automatic. I assume you're referring to keeping the screen centered on your own station when you're mobile and running with a
live GPS?
No, I'm actually referring to being able to auto-track my TT3-equipped
car upon startup, rather than the Win7 laptop running the aprsisce. Addressed below.

2) Optionally default to tracking a specific call upon startup.
Good idea. I've wanted that one a few times myself. I just added it
to the list. Be aware, however, that when you restart the client, the
screen will come up to where you last left it and will not move to center on the new station until a new position report is heard.
Thanks much for adding it to the list. I think this would make the program perfect for my needs.

Gary Sanders
WB0BZR


Update

kc9gqr@...
 

The update is working fine. On my windows mobile pda and built in gps. Along with pre fetching the maps I need and using it offline connected via bluetooth. To my Kenwood 700!!! Now just need to incoperate to be able to turn work with NWS shape files for weather spotting and we have hit a grandslam. This is. Awesome software. Right now the only reason to run uiview is if u are running an I gate or want the areas to turn a color for severe weather.

Brad
Kc9gqr
Sent from my BlackBerry® by Boost Mobile


Re: Need help

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Ok, I do believe you have your coordinates entered wrong and believe that your own station is not showing up because it's actually somewhere completely different than where you're looking. Before we make changes, try zooming way out on the map and see if you see a small laptop icon over in Africa. If so, click on it and select the Center option, even if it is already set. That will re-center on you. Zoom on in to a comfortable level (bear with me on this) being careful not to pan the map at all. Close the program with that view.

With the program CLOSED, edit the XML file and fix your Lat/Lon settings. As was pointed out by Colin,. North and East are positive, South and Wests are negative. According to http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-10, you are NE implying that both are positive right now.

2010-02-28 06:51:37 UTC: VK2JNG-10>APWW00,TCPIP*,qAC,T2TEXAS:@000000h0319.34N/01403.75ElAPRS-IS for CE

According to VK2JNG-12, you want to be somewhere near 35 15 00 S 149 25 00 E (in dd mm ss format). Using the converter at http://www.geocaching.com/wpt/default.aspx that tells us that is -35.25 149.41667 in decimal degrees. These are the numbers you need to enter in the XML configuration file.

Once that is done, restart the client and you should be closer to where you want to be. If that's not exact, find out what you really want, run it through the converter, CLOSE the program, edit the numbers, restart the program and eventually you'll be where you want to be.

I apologize for the obtuseness of this setting, but the program was originally designed for use as a mobile or ate least with a live GPS. I've got a ToDo item on my list (see the most recent release notes on the Yahoo Group) to add a "Set My Coordinate" popup menu option, but I haven't gotten it done just yet.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

jandgandjochem wrote:

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

What map are you referring to at this point? VK2JNG-10 shows up fine on
aprs.fi. The raw packets show some transmissions recently:

http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-10&limit=50

*******It shows up but the location on APRS.fi is totally incorrect. ******




Force just asks the client to beacon a position when it is allowed to.
Do you have a GPS connected to the laptop or are you using a static
position?
*******No GPS as yet. Using static position and edited the XML file.****



My question at the moment is: Should the VK2JNG-10 (Laptop running APRSISCE win32) be showing up on the map in your program??? At the moment it is not.





Read about the APRS OK window at
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/screen-features This page also discusses
the text that appears below that describing the beaconing features as
well as the colored bars in that portion of the screen.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

jandgandjochem wrote:

Ok, this is what I got sofar:

1 of 710 in the car being VK2JNG-9
1 of 710 in the Caravan (RV) being VK2JNG-12
1 of APRSISCE Win 32 on my laptop being VK2JNG-10 in the caravan.

When beaconing I can see the 710 in the car (VK2JNG-9) on the map as well as the 710 in the caravan (RV) (VK2JNG-12)

I can send messages to and from all the above three.

I can also see VK2JNG-10 (Laptop) on the T2Texas status page with YES in the 4th column.

However, when I force a TX from the Laptop (VK2JNG-10) I can't see that on the map.


Getting closer by the minute here with your help which is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Gerard
VK2JNG






--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:

Ok, I think you're real close, but not quite there. I really wish I had finished my ToDo item of showing port status better...

First, at http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-12 I'm seeing the first indication of the problem. Every APRS station must have it's own -SSID. It's not a good idea to share them and VK2JNG-12 is being used by your Kenwood directly. You need a different callsign on APRSISCE.

jandgandjochem wrote:

Can't get myself on the map yet??
Have you entered in an APRS-IS password and followed the on-screen instructions to zoom in on your home location on the first execution?
Yes I have entered my callsign and SSID being VK2JNG-12
VK2JNG-12 has not directly beaconed to APRS-IS yet. I suspect the password you entered is not correct for your callsign. If you bring up the "Info" popup by clicking on your station (hopefully in the center of the screen), it will list the APRS-IS server to which you are connected, both as a DNS and as an IP address. Use the IP address and point your browser to http://<That.IP.Address>:14501 (note the colon in there). I know the client said :14580, but the status page is at :14501. Once you get the status page, search for your callsign and check what it says in the "Verified" (4th) column. I suspect it doesn't say "Yes". (BTW, Ctrl-F is a quick way to Find your callsign on the status page).

If you need an APRS-IS password, e-mail me directly at KJ4ERJ@ and I'll generate one for you.


Trying to use it with my Kenwood 710.
What connection are you using to the 710? Did you configure the correct COM port and baud rate under Configure / KISS? Is the 710 in KISS mode?

I use the com port on the panel of the 710 (Display unit) and via a RS232 to USB converter made by KeySpan to USB com port 7 on the PC.
This has always worked fine when updating firmware and saving database etc.
Under configure > Kiss I get a window asking for IP/DNS and port.
Have not yet configured anything there.
When you click the KISS button on the Configuration dialog, click NO to the "TCP/IP Port?" question. That will get you into the serial port configuration page for the KISS TNC interface. Set it all up as you need to.


I have configured the com port on the Kenwood Menu 519 to 9600 and in the program under Configure > NMEA I have 9600; COM 7; Parity None; Data 8 and Stop 1.
Does the Kenwood put NMEA GPS data out the serial port? I don't think so. You need to clear all of the NMEA configuration options since you probably used the same port that you need to use under KISS. If you want a GPS, you'll need to provide for another one since I don't think the Kenwood can share that data with the PC while it is in KISS mode.


Note: I can see other local stations appearing on the screen but not my station. BTW On APRS.fi I appear ok as VK2JNG-12
In the scrolling station list, do those stations have * beside them? If so, they're coming from the KISS port (doubtful). If not, they're coming from APRS-IS, which is probably rejecting your beacons without the proper password.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks so much for your help.

Gerard
VK2JNG






I'd suggest getting the APRS-IS functions working first and then we can work on the RF side of things.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks heaps,

Gerard
VK2JNG



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Re: Need help

m6xsd <m6xsd@...>
 

Or to put it simply:

DecimalDegrees = d+(m/60)+(s/3600)

i.e.: 35°19'23" S 149°23'24" E becomes: Lat -34.6769 Long 149.3900

I hope I've got that right.


73,
Colin.

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "m6xsd" <m6xsd@...> wrote:

Hi Gerard,

Sorry to butt in butI think your remaining problem is simply that you have the wrong position entered in the xml. It must be entered in Decimal Degrees with -ve for Southern & Western hemisheres.
I may be wrong (& I apologise if I am) since I haven't looked in detail at your 'wrong position' but that is what it appears to be at first glance.
If you are still stuggling, sendout another 'hhheelllpppp' and I'm sure someone will respond.


73,
Colin
M6XSD.

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "jandgandjochem" <vk2jng@> wrote:



--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:

What map are you referring to at this point? VK2JNG-10 shows up fine on
aprs.fi. The raw packets show some transmissions recently:

http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-10&limit=50
*******It shows up but the location on APRS.fi is totally incorrect. ******



Force just asks the client to beacon a position when it is allowed to.
Do you have a GPS connected to the laptop or are you using a static
position?
*******No GPS as yet. Using static position and edited the XML file.****



My question at the moment is: Should the VK2JNG-10 (Laptop running APRSISCE win32) be showing up on the map in your program??? At the moment it is not.





Read about the APRS OK window at
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/screen-features This page also discusses
the text that appears below that describing the beaconing features as
well as the colored bars in that portion of the screen.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

jandgandjochem wrote:
Ok, this is what I got sofar:

1 of 710 in the car being VK2JNG-9
1 of 710 in the Caravan (RV) being VK2JNG-12
1 of APRSISCE Win 32 on my laptop being VK2JNG-10 in the caravan.

When beaconing I can see the 710 in the car (VK2JNG-9) on the map as well as the 710 in the caravan (RV) (VK2JNG-12)

I can send messages to and from all the above three.

I can also see VK2JNG-10 (Laptop) on the T2Texas status page with YES in the 4th column.

However, when I force a TX from the Laptop (VK2JNG-10) I can't see that on the map.


Getting closer by the minute here with your help which is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Gerard
VK2JNG






--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:

Ok, I think you're real close, but not quite there. I really wish I had
finished my ToDo item of showing port status better...

First, at http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-12 I'm seeing the first
indication of the problem. Every APRS station must have it's own
-SSID. It's not a good idea to share them and VK2JNG-12 is being used
by your Kenwood directly. You need a different callsign on APRSISCE.

jandgandjochem wrote:

Can't get myself on the map yet??


Have you entered in an APRS-IS password and followed the on-screen
instructions to zoom in on your home location on the first execution?

Yes I have entered my callsign and SSID being VK2JNG-12

VK2JNG-12 has not directly beaconed to APRS-IS yet. I suspect the
password you entered is not correct for your callsign. If you bring up
the "Info" popup by clicking on your station (hopefully in the center of
the screen), it will list the APRS-IS server to which you are connected,
both as a DNS and as an IP address. Use the IP address and point your
browser to http://<That.IP.Address>:14501 (note the colon in there). I
know the client said :14580, but the status page is at :14501. Once you
get the status page, search for your callsign and check what it says in
the "Verified" (4th) column. I suspect it doesn't say "Yes". (BTW,
Ctrl-F is a quick way to Find your callsign on the status page).

If you need an APRS-IS password, e-mail me directly at KJ4ERJ@
and I'll generate one for you.


Trying to use it with my Kenwood 710.


What connection are you using to the 710? Did you configure the correct
COM port and baud rate under Configure / KISS? Is the 710 in KISS mode?


I use the com port on the panel of the 710 (Display unit) and via a RS232 to USB converter made by KeySpan to USB com port 7 on the PC.
This has always worked fine when updating firmware and saving database etc.
Under configure > Kiss I get a window asking for IP/DNS and port.
Have not yet configured anything there.

When you click the KISS button on the Configuration dialog, click NO to
the "TCP/IP Port?" question. That will get you into the serial port
configuration page for the KISS TNC interface. Set it all up as you
need to.


I have configured the com port on the Kenwood Menu 519 to 9600 and in the program under Configure > NMEA I have 9600; COM 7; Parity None; Data 8 and Stop 1.

Does the Kenwood put NMEA GPS data out the serial port? I don't think
so. You need to clear all of the NMEA configuration options since you
probably used the same port that you need to use under KISS. If you
want a GPS, you'll need to provide for another one since I don't think
the Kenwood can share that data with the PC while it is in KISS mode.


Note: I can see other local stations appearing on the screen but not my station. BTW On APRS.fi I appear ok as VK2JNG-12

In the scrolling station list, do those stations have * beside them? If
so, they're coming from the KISS port (doubtful). If not, they're
coming from APRS-IS, which is probably rejecting your beacons without
the proper password.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks so much for your help.

Gerard
VK2JNG







I'd suggest getting the APRS-IS functions working first and then we can
work on the RF side of things.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



Thanks heaps,

Gerard
VK2JNG



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Re: Need help

m6xsd <m6xsd@...>
 

Hi Gerard,

Sorry to butt in butI think your remaining problem is simply that you have the wrong position entered in the xml. It must be entered in Decimal Degrees with -ve for Southern & Western hemisheres.
I may be wrong (& I apologise if I am) since I haven't looked in detail at your 'wrong position' but that is what it appears to be at first glance.
If you are still stuggling, sendout another 'hhheelllpppp' and I'm sure someone will respond.


73,
Colin
M6XSD.

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "jandgandjochem" <vk2jng@...> wrote:



--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:

What map are you referring to at this point? VK2JNG-10 shows up fine on
aprs.fi. The raw packets show some transmissions recently:

http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-10&limit=50
*******It shows up but the location on APRS.fi is totally incorrect. ******



Force just asks the client to beacon a position when it is allowed to.
Do you have a GPS connected to the laptop or are you using a static
position?
*******No GPS as yet. Using static position and edited the XML file.****



My question at the moment is: Should the VK2JNG-10 (Laptop running APRSISCE win32) be showing up on the map in your program??? At the moment it is not.





Read about the APRS OK window at
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/screen-features This page also discusses
the text that appears below that describing the beaconing features as
well as the colored bars in that portion of the screen.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

jandgandjochem wrote:
Ok, this is what I got sofar:

1 of 710 in the car being VK2JNG-9
1 of 710 in the Caravan (RV) being VK2JNG-12
1 of APRSISCE Win 32 on my laptop being VK2JNG-10 in the caravan.

When beaconing I can see the 710 in the car (VK2JNG-9) on the map as well as the 710 in the caravan (RV) (VK2JNG-12)

I can send messages to and from all the above three.

I can also see VK2JNG-10 (Laptop) on the T2Texas status page with YES in the 4th column.

However, when I force a TX from the Laptop (VK2JNG-10) I can't see that on the map.


Getting closer by the minute here with your help which is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Gerard
VK2JNG






--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:

Ok, I think you're real close, but not quite there. I really wish I had
finished my ToDo item of showing port status better...

First, at http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-12 I'm seeing the first
indication of the problem. Every APRS station must have it's own
-SSID. It's not a good idea to share them and VK2JNG-12 is being used
by your Kenwood directly. You need a different callsign on APRSISCE.

jandgandjochem wrote:

Can't get myself on the map yet??


Have you entered in an APRS-IS password and followed the on-screen
instructions to zoom in on your home location on the first execution?

Yes I have entered my callsign and SSID being VK2JNG-12

VK2JNG-12 has not directly beaconed to APRS-IS yet. I suspect the
password you entered is not correct for your callsign. If you bring up
the "Info" popup by clicking on your station (hopefully in the center of
the screen), it will list the APRS-IS server to which you are connected,
both as a DNS and as an IP address. Use the IP address and point your
browser to http://<That.IP.Address>:14501 (note the colon in there). I
know the client said :14580, but the status page is at :14501. Once you
get the status page, search for your callsign and check what it says in
the "Verified" (4th) column. I suspect it doesn't say "Yes". (BTW,
Ctrl-F is a quick way to Find your callsign on the status page).

If you need an APRS-IS password, e-mail me directly at KJ4ERJ@
and I'll generate one for you.


Trying to use it with my Kenwood 710.


What connection are you using to the 710? Did you configure the correct
COM port and baud rate under Configure / KISS? Is the 710 in KISS mode?


I use the com port on the panel of the 710 (Display unit) and via a RS232 to USB converter made by KeySpan to USB com port 7 on the PC.
This has always worked fine when updating firmware and saving database etc.
Under configure > Kiss I get a window asking for IP/DNS and port.
Have not yet configured anything there.

When you click the KISS button on the Configuration dialog, click NO to
the "TCP/IP Port?" question. That will get you into the serial port
configuration page for the KISS TNC interface. Set it all up as you
need to.


I have configured the com port on the Kenwood Menu 519 to 9600 and in the program under Configure > NMEA I have 9600; COM 7; Parity None; Data 8 and Stop 1.

Does the Kenwood put NMEA GPS data out the serial port? I don't think
so. You need to clear all of the NMEA configuration options since you
probably used the same port that you need to use under KISS. If you
want a GPS, you'll need to provide for another one since I don't think
the Kenwood can share that data with the PC while it is in KISS mode.


Note: I can see other local stations appearing on the screen but not my station. BTW On APRS.fi I appear ok as VK2JNG-12

In the scrolling station list, do those stations have * beside them? If
so, they're coming from the KISS port (doubtful). If not, they're
coming from APRS-IS, which is probably rejecting your beacons without
the proper password.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks so much for your help.

Gerard
VK2JNG







I'd suggest getting the APRS-IS functions working first and then we can
work on the RF side of things.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



Thanks heaps,

Gerard
VK2JNG



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Minor details.

James Ewen
 

Lynn,

Thanks for creating what sounds like it might just become the top APRS
client in the future. We've had a progression of APRS applications
over the years, with each one moving the bar higher and higher. Having
an author responsive to the needs and desires of the users is a major
factor in developing a great application.

Now... onto the nitty gritty bits.

Right off the top, have you thought about renaming the program?
Obviously the name reflects the origins of the program, but it looks
to be headed to be much more than that.

I finally had a look at the program just over a week ago... I hadn't
looked before because of the name, assuming it was for Windows Mobile
devices only. I'd suggest not only dropping the CE portion, but also
the APRSIS portion. The APRS-IS name is the Internet Service portion
of the APRS network. This client appears to be moving beyond that, and
encompassing the RF portion as well. Perhaps a new less limiting name
might be in order... a really sexy or cool name for the application
never hurt.

Can you make it so that the large compass face can be a user
selectable display element? I would like to get rid of the big grey
circle and NESW labels on my screen.

I love the fact that you use the OSM map in this application. I've
been helping that project for a couple years now. It is great that
anyone can add detail to the OSM map. Any missing data can easily be
added, and immediately becomes available worldwide! One issue that I
have however is the way that the tiles are saved to the hard drive.

I use a program called RadioMobile that also uses the OSM tiles for
creating a background map. RadioMobile saves the tiles in almost the
exact same way as APRSIS32, but with just a slight naming difference.
APRSIS32 uses a file structure such as OSM12/748/1334.png whereas
RadioMobile saves the exact same tile under the file structure
12/748/1334.png

It would be very desirable to share the tiles across multiple
platforms, rather than have duplicate tiles saved for each
application. I don't know if there's an "official" file naming
structure defined for saving OSM tiles, but if it was possible to
override the naming structure to allow the two programs to match up,
it would be great. All I would need to be able to do, is to have the
OSMXX structure changed to just XX where XX is the zoom level.

James
VE6SRV


Re: Need help

jandgandjochem <vk2jng@...>
 

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

What map are you referring to at this point? VK2JNG-10 shows up fine on
aprs.fi. The raw packets show some transmissions recently:

http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-10&limit=50
*******It shows up but the location on APRS.fi is totally incorrect. ******



Force just asks the client to beacon a position when it is allowed to.
Do you have a GPS connected to the laptop or are you using a static
position?
*******No GPS as yet. Using static position and edited the XML file.****



My question at the moment is: Should the VK2JNG-10 (Laptop running APRSISCE win32) be showing up on the map in your program??? At the moment it is not.





Read about the APRS OK window at
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/screen-features This page also discusses
the text that appears below that describing the beaconing features as
well as the colored bars in that portion of the screen.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

jandgandjochem wrote:
Ok, this is what I got sofar:

1 of 710 in the car being VK2JNG-9
1 of 710 in the Caravan (RV) being VK2JNG-12
1 of APRSISCE Win 32 on my laptop being VK2JNG-10 in the caravan.

When beaconing I can see the 710 in the car (VK2JNG-9) on the map as well as the 710 in the caravan (RV) (VK2JNG-12)

I can send messages to and from all the above three.

I can also see VK2JNG-10 (Laptop) on the T2Texas status page with YES in the 4th column.

However, when I force a TX from the Laptop (VK2JNG-10) I can't see that on the map.


Getting closer by the minute here with your help which is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Gerard
VK2JNG






--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:

Ok, I think you're real close, but not quite there. I really wish I had
finished my ToDo item of showing port status better...

First, at http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-12 I'm seeing the first
indication of the problem. Every APRS station must have it's own
-SSID. It's not a good idea to share them and VK2JNG-12 is being used
by your Kenwood directly. You need a different callsign on APRSISCE.

jandgandjochem wrote:

Can't get myself on the map yet??


Have you entered in an APRS-IS password and followed the on-screen
instructions to zoom in on your home location on the first execution?

Yes I have entered my callsign and SSID being VK2JNG-12

VK2JNG-12 has not directly beaconed to APRS-IS yet. I suspect the
password you entered is not correct for your callsign. If you bring up
the "Info" popup by clicking on your station (hopefully in the center of
the screen), it will list the APRS-IS server to which you are connected,
both as a DNS and as an IP address. Use the IP address and point your
browser to http://<That.IP.Address>:14501 (note the colon in there). I
know the client said :14580, but the status page is at :14501. Once you
get the status page, search for your callsign and check what it says in
the "Verified" (4th) column. I suspect it doesn't say "Yes". (BTW,
Ctrl-F is a quick way to Find your callsign on the status page).

If you need an APRS-IS password, e-mail me directly at KJ4ERJ@
and I'll generate one for you.


Trying to use it with my Kenwood 710.


What connection are you using to the 710? Did you configure the correct
COM port and baud rate under Configure / KISS? Is the 710 in KISS mode?


I use the com port on the panel of the 710 (Display unit) and via a RS232 to USB converter made by KeySpan to USB com port 7 on the PC.
This has always worked fine when updating firmware and saving database etc.
Under configure > Kiss I get a window asking for IP/DNS and port.
Have not yet configured anything there.

When you click the KISS button on the Configuration dialog, click NO to
the "TCP/IP Port?" question. That will get you into the serial port
configuration page for the KISS TNC interface. Set it all up as you
need to.


I have configured the com port on the Kenwood Menu 519 to 9600 and in the program under Configure > NMEA I have 9600; COM 7; Parity None; Data 8 and Stop 1.

Does the Kenwood put NMEA GPS data out the serial port? I don't think
so. You need to clear all of the NMEA configuration options since you
probably used the same port that you need to use under KISS. If you
want a GPS, you'll need to provide for another one since I don't think
the Kenwood can share that data with the PC while it is in KISS mode.


Note: I can see other local stations appearing on the screen but not my station. BTW On APRS.fi I appear ok as VK2JNG-12

In the scrolling station list, do those stations have * beside them? If
so, they're coming from the KISS port (doubtful). If not, they're
coming from APRS-IS, which is probably rejecting your beacons without
the proper password.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks so much for your help.

Gerard
VK2JNG







I'd suggest getting the APRS-IS functions working first and then we can
work on the RF side of things.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



Thanks heaps,

Gerard
VK2JNG



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Re: Need help

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

What map are you referring to at this point? VK2JNG-10 shows up fine on
aprs.fi. The raw packets show some transmissions recently:

http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-10&limit=50

Force just asks the client to beacon a position when it is allowed to.
Do you have a GPS connected to the laptop or are you using a static
position?

Read about the APRS OK window at
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/screen-features This page also discusses
the text that appears below that describing the beaconing features as
well as the colored bars in that portion of the screen.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

jandgandjochem wrote:

Ok, this is what I got sofar:

1 of 710 in the car being VK2JNG-9
1 of 710 in the Caravan (RV) being VK2JNG-12
1 of APRSISCE Win 32 on my laptop being VK2JNG-10 in the caravan.

When beaconing I can see the 710 in the car (VK2JNG-9) on the map as well as the 710 in the caravan (RV) (VK2JNG-12)

I can send messages to and from all the above three.

I can also see VK2JNG-10 (Laptop) on the T2Texas status page with YES in the 4th column.

However, when I force a TX from the Laptop (VK2JNG-10) I can't see that on the map.


Getting closer by the minute here with your help which is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Gerard
VK2JNG






--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Ok, I think you're real close, but not quite there. I really wish I had finished my ToDo item of showing port status better...

First, at http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-12 I'm seeing the first indication of the problem. Every APRS station must have it's own -SSID. It's not a good idea to share them and VK2JNG-12 is being used by your Kenwood directly. You need a different callsign on APRSISCE.

jandgandjochem wrote:

Can't get myself on the map yet??
Have you entered in an APRS-IS password and followed the on-screen instructions to zoom in on your home location on the first execution?
Yes I have entered my callsign and SSID being VK2JNG-12
VK2JNG-12 has not directly beaconed to APRS-IS yet. I suspect the password you entered is not correct for your callsign. If you bring up the "Info" popup by clicking on your station (hopefully in the center of the screen), it will list the APRS-IS server to which you are connected, both as a DNS and as an IP address. Use the IP address and point your browser to http://<That.IP.Address>:14501 (note the colon in there). I know the client said :14580, but the status page is at :14501. Once you get the status page, search for your callsign and check what it says in the "Verified" (4th) column. I suspect it doesn't say "Yes". (BTW, Ctrl-F is a quick way to Find your callsign on the status page).

If you need an APRS-IS password, e-mail me directly at KJ4ERJ@... and I'll generate one for you.


Trying to use it with my Kenwood 710.
What connection are you using to the 710? Did you configure the correct COM port and baud rate under Configure / KISS? Is the 710 in KISS mode?

I use the com port on the panel of the 710 (Display unit) and via a RS232 to USB converter made by KeySpan to USB com port 7 on the PC.
This has always worked fine when updating firmware and saving database etc.
Under configure > Kiss I get a window asking for IP/DNS and port.
Have not yet configured anything there.
When you click the KISS button on the Configuration dialog, click NO to the "TCP/IP Port?" question. That will get you into the serial port configuration page for the KISS TNC interface. Set it all up as you need to.


I have configured the com port on the Kenwood Menu 519 to 9600 and in the program under Configure > NMEA I have 9600; COM 7; Parity None; Data 8 and Stop 1.
Does the Kenwood put NMEA GPS data out the serial port? I don't think so. You need to clear all of the NMEA configuration options since you probably used the same port that you need to use under KISS. If you want a GPS, you'll need to provide for another one since I don't think the Kenwood can share that data with the PC while it is in KISS mode.


Note: I can see other local stations appearing on the screen but not my station. BTW On APRS.fi I appear ok as VK2JNG-12
In the scrolling station list, do those stations have * beside them? If so, they're coming from the KISS port (doubtful). If not, they're coming from APRS-IS, which is probably rejecting your beacons without the proper password.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks so much for your help.

Gerard
VK2JNG






I'd suggest getting the APRS-IS functions working first and then we can work on the RF side of things.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks heaps,

Gerard
VK2JNG



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Re: Need help

jandgandjochem <vk2jng@...>
 

Ok, this is what I got sofar:

1 of 710 in the car being VK2JNG-9
1 of 710 in the Caravan (RV) being VK2JNG-12
1 of APRSISCE Win 32 on my laptop being VK2JNG-10 in the caravan.

When beaconing I can see the 710 in the car (VK2JNG-9) on the map as well as the 710 in the caravan (RV) (VK2JNG-12)

I can send messages to and from all the above three.

I can also see VK2JNG-10 (Laptop) on the T2Texas status page with YES in the 4th column.

However, when I force a TX from the Laptop (VK2JNG-10) I can't see that on the map.


Getting closer by the minute here with your help which is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Gerard
VK2JNG

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Ok, I think you're real close, but not quite there. I really wish I had
finished my ToDo item of showing port status better...

First, at http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-12 I'm seeing the first
indication of the problem. Every APRS station must have it's own
-SSID. It's not a good idea to share them and VK2JNG-12 is being used
by your Kenwood directly. You need a different callsign on APRSISCE.

jandgandjochem wrote:
Can't get myself on the map yet??

Have you entered in an APRS-IS password and followed the on-screen
instructions to zoom in on your home location on the first execution?
Yes I have entered my callsign and SSID being VK2JNG-12
VK2JNG-12 has not directly beaconed to APRS-IS yet. I suspect the
password you entered is not correct for your callsign. If you bring up
the "Info" popup by clicking on your station (hopefully in the center of
the screen), it will list the APRS-IS server to which you are connected,
both as a DNS and as an IP address. Use the IP address and point your
browser to http://<That.IP.Address>:14501 (note the colon in there). I
know the client said :14580, but the status page is at :14501. Once you
get the status page, search for your callsign and check what it says in
the "Verified" (4th) column. I suspect it doesn't say "Yes". (BTW,
Ctrl-F is a quick way to Find your callsign on the status page).

If you need an APRS-IS password, e-mail me directly at KJ4ERJ@...
and I'll generate one for you.

Trying to use it with my Kenwood 710.

What connection are you using to the 710? Did you configure the correct
COM port and baud rate under Configure / KISS? Is the 710 in KISS mode?

I use the com port on the panel of the 710 (Display unit) and via a RS232 to USB converter made by KeySpan to USB com port 7 on the PC.
This has always worked fine when updating firmware and saving database etc.
Under configure > Kiss I get a window asking for IP/DNS and port.
Have not yet configured anything there.
When you click the KISS button on the Configuration dialog, click NO to
the "TCP/IP Port?" question. That will get you into the serial port
configuration page for the KISS TNC interface. Set it all up as you
need to.

I have configured the com port on the Kenwood Menu 519 to 9600 and in the program under Configure > NMEA I have 9600; COM 7; Parity None; Data 8 and Stop 1.
Does the Kenwood put NMEA GPS data out the serial port? I don't think
so. You need to clear all of the NMEA configuration options since you
probably used the same port that you need to use under KISS. If you
want a GPS, you'll need to provide for another one since I don't think
the Kenwood can share that data with the PC while it is in KISS mode.

Note: I can see other local stations appearing on the screen but not my station. BTW On APRS.fi I appear ok as VK2JNG-12
In the scrolling station list, do those stations have * beside them? If
so, they're coming from the KISS port (doubtful). If not, they're
coming from APRS-IS, which is probably rejecting your beacons without
the proper password.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Thanks so much for your help.

Gerard
VK2JNG






I'd suggest getting the APRS-IS functions working first and then we can
work on the RF side of things.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks heaps,

Gerard
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Re: New User with a couple of comments.....

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Gary Sanders wrote:
I got the program running last night using Windows 7, and I suspect that this could easily become my favorite APRS application on Windows.
I can only hope! The more people that use it, and make suggestions, the better it will be for all of us.

I'm using it for monitoring only, so I don't have a password entered. (I see that it defaults to -1 in that case, which is fine.) I put in a filter string "f/wb0bzr-12/200" to limit the amount of received data to 200 km surrounding my TT4, and it worked fine for a half hour or so, than it suddenly reverted to what appeared to be an unfiltered feed - I was receiving posits from all over the U.S. If I restarted it, it appeared to do the same thing - filtered for a while, then unfiltered reception.
What do you have the Range configuration value set to? It defaults to 50 or 60 miles (I think). That range is automatically added to your filter string in two ways. First, it is always sent as a Me filter. This, of course, only has effect if you beacon a position to the APRS-IS servers for the callsign-SSID under which the program is running. I suspect this is not your issue, unless you have a live GPS that takes a while to get a fix and therefor to beacon a position. But with a -1, I'm not sure the APRS-IS server would even notice.

The other use of the range parameter is that the client automatically uses this along with the center of the screen for a range filter. This means that if you drag the screen around, it will automatically update your active filter to request that range around the center of the screen.

Finally, if you Center on another station, the client automatically builds a Friend filter using the same Range number as the circle around that centered station. The APRS-IS seems to be semi-sticky on the friend filter. Once you center on a station, you seem to continue getting the range around that station even after the client has removed the friend filter from the active filter string.

Any or all of these could be what is causing your apparent reversion to an unfiltered feed. Just for grins, you could actually set the Range to about 10,000 (which is actually 1,000 miles) to get a small feel for just how much data can actually flood into the client. I keep one copy of APRSIS32 open on my desktop on a server with an unfiltered feed. The station list scrolls faster than you can read. (You currently have to edit the .XML configuration file to change the APRS server or port).

I also use Uiview-32, which is set up to use a similar filter string, so I just set uiview to act as a server, and pointed to it with APRSISCE, which took care of limiting the quantity of received data. As a side benefit, since Uiview is also connected to a TNC and radio at home as well as the 'net, I can see stations directly via rf on APRSISCE.
One of the upcoming features is a server feature as well. If I can pull it off, the server port will actually implement a sub-filtered feed to allow one instance to connect to a full feed and other local instances to connect to the first instance but filter the feed for areas of special interest. There's plenty of other things on the list ahead of that though!

APRSISCE would be perfect for me if it did two things that I can't seem to make it do now:

1) Optionally default to Tracking Enabled upon startup.
This is automatic. I assume you're referring to keeping the screen centered on your own station when you're mobile and running with a live GPS? I suspect you've dragged the screen so that it is no longer actively tracking "Me" as center. Click on your own station and select Center again even though it may already be checked. From that point it should keep your station centered. At least, until you drag the screen away either intentionally or inadvertently.

The other way to ensure that the client is centered on you and tracking your movements is to double-click on the heading panel. The first double-click will restore the currently-tracking station to the center of the screen and live track it. The second double click will return center to you and also begin live tracking your movements.

Remember, the slightest accidental screen drag will lock the map down and disable keeping the tracked station centered.

2) Optionally default to tracking a specific call upon startup.
Good idea. I've wanted that one a few times myself. I just added it to the list. Be aware, however, that when you restart the client, the screen will come up to where you last left it and will not move to center on the new station until a new position report is heard.

Unless I'm not using the program correctly, the state of Tracking isn't saved at shutdown, nor is the tracking of a specific call (or, to be more accurate, the centering on a tracked call). I do realize that the friends list filter string is saved, but you must wait for the call to go by on the scrolling list and then select it in order to keep it centered.
Answered above.

The reason I'd like to have these optional defaults is so my wife could just start the application on her laptop and be able to see where the car is the next time it sends a position without her having to do anything else. (Getting her to wait for a call to scroll by and select it isn't high on the WAF :) ).
Good use!

I sort-of do this now with Uiview-32 and Precision Maps, but if you've ever used the Precision Maps interface with Uiview, you know why I like you program so much!
I used UI-View for about 2 or 3 weeks over a year ago and quickly decided it would be worth writing my own client. I do it because I love programming and even more love to program useful things.

I fully understand that I may simply be using the program incorrectly, and it can do all of the above already. If so, I'd really appreciate it if you'd let me know the error of my ways.
Never hesitate to ask. If I don't answer, someone else will. Also, once you get more familiar with the program, feel free to jump in with answers and/or comments whenever the mood strikes. You do have to be pretty quick to get an answer in before me most of the time though! ;)

Thanks,
You're welcome. Thanks for trying out the program and helping to make it better!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Gary Sanders
WB0BZR.


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New User with a couple of comments.....

Gary Sanders
 

I got the program running last night using Windows 7, and I suspect that this could easily become my favorite APRS application on Windows.

I'm using it for monitoring only, so I don't have a password entered. (I see that it defaults to -1 in that case, which is fine.) I put in a filter string "f/wb0bzr-12/200" to limit the amount of received data to 200 km surrounding my TT4, and it worked fine for a half hour or so, than it suddenly reverted to what appeared to be an unfiltered feed - I was receiving posits from all over the U.S. If I restarted it, it appeared to do the same thing - filtered for a while, then unfiltered reception.

I also use Uiview-32, which is set up to use a similar filter string, so I just set uiview to act as a server, and pointed to it with APRSISCE, which took care of limiting the quantity of received data. As a side benefit, since Uiview is also connected to a TNC and radio at home as well as the 'net, I can see stations directly via rf on APRSISCE.

I spent most of last night reading all ~450 messages in the archive until I was cross eyed :). I see that your TO DO list is pretty long, but maybe you could humor me, and consider a couple of thoughts.....

APRSISCE would be perfect for me if it did two things that I can't seem to make it do now:

1) Optionally default to Tracking Enabled upon startup.

2) Optionally default to tracking a specific call upon startup.

Unless I'm not using the program correctly, the state of Tracking isn't saved at shutdown, nor is the tracking of a specific call (or, to be more accurate, the centering on a tracked call). I do realize that the friends list filter string is saved, but you must wait for the call to go by on the scrolling list and then select it in order to keep it centered.

The reason I'd like to have these optional defaults is so my wife could just start the application on her laptop and be able to see where the car is the next time it sends a position without her having to do anything else. (Getting her to wait for a call to scroll by and select it isn't high on the WAF :) ).

I sort-of do this now with Uiview-32 and Precision Maps, but if you've ever used the Precision Maps interface with Uiview, you know why I like you program so much!

I fully understand that I may simply be using the program incorrectly, and it can do all of the above already. If so, I'd really appreciate it if you'd let me know the error of my ways.

Thanks,

Gary Sanders
WB0BZR.


Re: Need help

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Ok, I think you're real close, but not quite there. I really wish I had finished my ToDo item of showing port status better...

First, at http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VK2JNG-12 I'm seeing the first indication of the problem. Every APRS station must have it's own -SSID. It's not a good idea to share them and VK2JNG-12 is being used by your Kenwood directly. You need a different callsign on APRSISCE.

jandgandjochem wrote:
Can't get myself on the map yet??
Have you entered in an APRS-IS password and followed the on-screen instructions to zoom in on your home location on the first execution?
Yes I have entered my callsign and SSID being VK2JNG-12
VK2JNG-12 has not directly beaconed to APRS-IS yet. I suspect the password you entered is not correct for your callsign. If you bring up the "Info" popup by clicking on your station (hopefully in the center of the screen), it will list the APRS-IS server to which you are connected, both as a DNS and as an IP address. Use the IP address and point your browser to http://<That.IP.Address>:14501 (note the colon in there). I know the client said :14580, but the status page is at :14501. Once you get the status page, search for your callsign and check what it says in the "Verified" (4th) column. I suspect it doesn't say "Yes". (BTW, Ctrl-F is a quick way to Find your callsign on the status page).

If you need an APRS-IS password, e-mail me directly at KJ4ERJ@arrl.net and I'll generate one for you.

Trying to use it with my Kenwood 710.
What connection are you using to the 710? Did you configure the correct COM port and baud rate under Configure / KISS? Is the 710 in KISS mode?

I use the com port on the panel of the 710 (Display unit) and via a RS232 to USB converter made by KeySpan to USB com port 7 on the PC.
This has always worked fine when updating firmware and saving database etc.
Under configure > Kiss I get a window asking for IP/DNS and port.
Have not yet configured anything there.
When you click the KISS button on the Configuration dialog, click NO to the "TCP/IP Port?" question. That will get you into the serial port configuration page for the KISS TNC interface. Set it all up as you need to.

I have configured the com port on the Kenwood Menu 519 to 9600 and in the program under Configure > NMEA I have 9600; COM 7; Parity None; Data 8 and Stop 1.
Does the Kenwood put NMEA GPS data out the serial port? I don't think so. You need to clear all of the NMEA configuration options since you probably used the same port that you need to use under KISS. If you want a GPS, you'll need to provide for another one since I don't think the Kenwood can share that data with the PC while it is in KISS mode.

Note: I can see other local stations appearing on the screen but not my station. BTW On APRS.fi I appear ok as VK2JNG-12
In the scrolling station list, do those stations have * beside them? If so, they're coming from the KISS port (doubtful). If not, they're coming from APRS-IS, which is probably rejecting your beacons without the proper password.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Thanks so much for your help.

Gerard
VK2JNG






I'd suggest getting the APRS-IS functions working first and then we can work on the RF side of things.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Thanks heaps,

Gerard
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Re: Need help

jandgandjochem <vk2jng@...>
 

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

jandgandjochem wrote:
Hi all,
Just downloaded the latest version of APRSIS (32) and tunning it under Vista Home premium.
Greetings, and welcome to APRSIS32!

All seems ok but I have not much of an idea yet of what to do.

Is there a help file somewhere so that I can read up on.
Not yet. The only description is in the .TXT file that is in the files
section of the Yahoo group and (I think) was e-mailed to you when you
joined the group.

Can't get myself on the map yet??
Have you entered in an APRS-IS password and followed the on-screen
instructions to zoom in on your home location on the first execution?
Yes I have entered my callsign and SSID being VK2JNG-12



What does the program say in the top center or top left. It should say
"APRS OK". What -SSID did you configure into the program.
Yes, the program says APRS OK and the time countdown plus 2 green bars




Trying to use it with my Kenwood 710.
What connection are you using to the 710? Did you configure the correct
COM port and baud rate under Configure / KISS? Is the 710 in KISS mode?
I use the com port on the panel of the 710 (Display unit) and via a RS232 to USB converter made by KeySpan to USB com port 7 on the PC.
This has always worked fine when updating firmware and saving database etc.
Under configure > Kiss I get a window asking for IP/DNS and port.
Have not yet configured anything there.

I have configured the com port on the Kenwood Menu 519 to 9600 and in the program under Configure > NMEA I have 9600; COM 7; Parity None; Data 8 and Stop 1.


Note: I can see other local stations appearing on the screen but not my station. BTW On APRS.fi I appear ok as VK2JNG-12

Thanks so much for your help.

Gerard
VK2JNG





I'd suggest getting the APRS-IS functions working first and then we can
work on the RF side of things.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Thanks heaps,

Gerard
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Re: Faded map

Rix Seacord esea <eseacord@...>
 

Lynn
Do you mean the kybd left/right arrows? Tried them all to no avail.
No I really feel dumber:)
Thanks
Rix
On 2/26/2010 10:29 PM, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh wrote:
 

Left/Right arrows dim and brighten the background maps. If you dim it
down the whole way, the client switches from the Mercator Projection to
a distance and bearing from your centered station. Looks pretty
interesting when zoomed out a fair amount on a full feed.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

rixseacord wrote:
> Hi gang
> I just downloaded and installed the latest version of aprsisce and it looks pretty good.
> However, on my system the map is very light.
> I there some setting to correct this?
> Thanks much
> Rix
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Re: Another program recommended for Windows 7?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

kb0npw wrote:
Lynn, I am learning more and more with your program as I play around with it. I'm still trying to figure out how to set my home position correctly. I guess I can edit the xml file, because it put me in the wrong place, and I can't seem to figure out how to correct it.
Editing the Lat/Lon in the XML file is the easiest way to fix it. Make sure the client is closed before editing or your changes will be lost. The lat/lon are in decimal degrees. I've got a ToDo item to make a way to set the current coordinate for non-GPS-enabled installations.

The maps are cool. I have dialup, so it took me a bit to get a bunch of tiles downloaded. But the resolution is way better than anything I'm used to seeing with APRS.
I've been pretty impressed with them for most areas of the world (yes, I routinely zoom in on where other people are running the client). There's a street behind my house that wasn't there, so I got the coordinates of the corners and added it! If you see something incorrect, just sign up for an account at OpenStreetMap.org and edit to your heart's content.

This may sound like a stupid question, but I'm new with this so bear with me. Is this all internet based stuff that I am seeing or does the software actually use my TNC for RF stuff too?
APRSISCE/32 was originally written as an APRS-IS (Internet) client for Windows Mobile cellphones. It has since evolved into support KISS-interfaced TNCs, TEXT-mode TNCs, and AGW's Packet Engine sound card TNC (but receive-only currently). My plan is to continue evolving it and adding functionality as time and imagination permit.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



Thanks and 73,

Kenny

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Kenny, (Moving the off-topic post out of UI-View)

Glad the program works for you. You mentioned making "some more maps", but with APRSISCE/32 the maps are automatic. I've got a ToDo item to support user-created maps, but currently it will only display maps from OpenStreetMap.org. If you're going to be operating off-line, you can use "Screen / Map / Prefetch" to download a bunch of map tiles before going offline. See http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/map-prefetch for more information.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


kb0npw wrote:

--- In ui-view@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <ldeffenb@> wrote:

You could try APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32. Join the Yahoo Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/APRSISCE/

It doesn't do as much as UI-View (yet) nor does it support plug-ins, but it works well on Windows 7.
Lynn, I downloaded your software, and in less than 30 seconds, had it up and running with no issues. You have a great little gem there! I will definitely be playing with it some more, and attempting to find or make some more maps.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled UI-View32 about 5 times now, and never have gotten it to work. I've tried installing as administrator and as user. I've tried running it as administrator and as user. I've tweaked just about every setting under the properties for the shortcut, and nothing ever works. It's aggravating for sure.

Kenny




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