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Re: Station wandering

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Phillip wrote:
Hi,
Running the latest vers of APRSISCE WIN32 with GPS attached to my
Desktop ZL2TZE-15 over the last 24 hrs + its has been wandering some miles away .
I ask why ?
The only reason your station would wander away is that the GPS antenna doesn't have good coverage and is reporting a constantly changing position to the client. I set my home station with a GPS to a Min Time (Configure/Genius) of 300, 600, or 900 seconds to prevent lots of position beacons from being sent. My Max Time is set to 30 minutes. As a matter of fact, I just noticed that my DeLorme BlueLogger GPS doesn't even have a fix right now! I wonder if the antenna fell off the window sill?

I have now removed the GPS and running in Fixed mode
Since the GPS isn't used by the client for now, bring up some other GPS-using program and see if it also shows the coordinates moving around. Some routing programs smooth out the GPS signal, which can make the position appear more stable. But that approach makes them particularly non-useful for hikers, bikers, and geocachers.

73 Phillip
ZL2TZE
73 and thanks for the GPS report. BTW, what GPS is it, anyway? (Just curious)

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Station wandering

Phillip <zl2tze@...>
 

Hi,
Running the latest vers of APRSISCE WIN32 with GPS attached to my
Desktop ZL2TZE-15 over the last 24 hrs +
its has been wandering some miles away .

I ask why ?

I have now removed the GPS and running in Fixed mode

73 Phillip
ZL2TZE


Re: Setup problem

James Jolin <jjolin@...>
 

On 2/15/2010 5:09 AM, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh wrote:
 

james_jolin wrote:
> Using the first version of aprsis32 and I can't seem to get my coordinates to "take." I put in the latitude and longetude values and save the xml file and everthing is ok til I run the probram and it comes up with no maps and a "laptop" in the middle of the big circle with the wrong coordinates in the "info." When I look in the xml file the corrdinates have changed to 90.000 Latitude and 180.00 longitue. I know I am doing something wrong, but I can't seem to find it.
> Jim
>

I would strongly suggest downloading the latest APRSIS32 from the Yahoo
Group files section. It fixes quite a few things, not the least of
which is the ability to "track" a fixed Lat/Lon.

APRSIS32 keeps its configuration in APRSIS32.XML (as you already know)
in the default directory within which you run the program (usually the
same directory as where the .EXE resides, but not always). To edit the
XML, always make sure the program is CLOSED. Otherwise, your changes
will be lost when the program closes the next time as it completely
rewrites the XML file when closing.

Inside the XML file, locate the and tags (not the
Lon> nor the Lon>. These numbers are in
decimal degrees where Negative is for the Southern and Western
hemispheres. Once you have your desired coordinates set in the .XML,
restart the client and your laptop should be at the proper place as
indicated by checking the "Me" Info popup.

As for the maps, I'm hoping that is an issue related to 180/90 as I've
got no idea what the program will do with that setting, nor where it's
coming up with such a setting.

Finally, if all else fails, just delete the .XML file and start the
client again. It will prompt for the initial configuration and will
allow you to pan/zoom the maps to get to your home location. Once you
have the home location centered, close the client and restart it and all
will be well. If you don't get maps on this initial execution without
an existing XML file, there's something else going on with your
installation, I'm guessing a firewall or a required proxy.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ



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Lynn,
Got the problem sovled by deleting the xml file and centering.  Thanks for you help and the help of the others.  Looks like this is going to me a good program.  Hope you can get some weather stuff like NWS-get for us skywarn people.
Jim WA9ARB


Re: Using latest ver. of APRSISCE on HTC P3300 Mobile phone

VU2IB
 

Hi Lynn

Thanks for the update.

I have just now installed the latest file, replaced old one with the new one.

In the morning when I drive to work.. on the way I will test it, will let you know my findings incase of any observations.

However, like I said I enjoy your APRS software on my windows mobile phone.. it has brought me onto the APRS world map.

Best part is one can get active without being dependent on any digipeaters or I-Gates in the city.

Keep us posted with your future enhancements.

73

Karan, VU2YEP
New Delhi, INDIA

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

vu2yep wrote:
I would like to take this opportunity thank you for getting this useful software in place for the Ham community. I am overall very happy with th the results of the software and have been using it for over a month or so.
Thanks for the comments. I'm glad others beyond myself are getting use
out of my efforts.

I installed the latest version of APRSISCE on my mobile phone, overall its working ok for me, yet to explore the the additional features added.
Actually, given your comments below, I suspect you don't have the latest
latest version. I did three releases in three days to fix some of these
issues. If you do an About, it should say "Built: 2010/02/12 14:51".
If your's is earlier than that, head on back to the Yahoo group to get
the latest.

1. The car's icon, if I set it to be in the center, its not staying in the center after the current map screen's distance is covered by the car or car icon.. the car moves out of the circle ( circle in which we see the map) and I have to manually drag the map to see where the car icon is. In the prvious version it was staying in the middle of the circle and just the map was getting refereshed. I have kept in mind the appropirate zoom levels as well. The red dot also not moving ahead of the car icon ulike earlier version. ( like showing the path).
This happens in the newer versions if you drag the map, intentionally or
not, off the center. If you double-click on the Heading panel (the one
that shows your current direction, below or beside the large speed
panel), it will first move you back to center the station you're
tracking, if it isn't you. If you double-click it again, it will change
back to tracking yourself and also re-center yourself and resume moving
the screen when you move.

In one of the recent releases, I decreased the sensitivity to
inadvertant screen drags, but it is still fairly easy to accidentally
move the map off center which results in a frozen map with your station
moving across it. When that happens, the red dot is also also
suppressed as it would no longer be moving relative to your station as
it should.

I hope to provide some visual indication and easier way to know/change
what station is being tracked and bring the tracked station back to the
center in some future revision, as soon as I can figure out what would
make sense visually.

2. When I am sending a text message to another APRS station, I believe as soon as the message is deliverd, I am getting a 'redundent something something' acknowledgement type of notificiation. The messages are coming and going all ok though.
The redundant acknowledgement popup was removed in the latest release.
It occurs when you send a message to a station that has multiple paths
into the APRS (RF and -IS) network. However, if you're getting a
message about a "Pirated ack", that's a different case and I'll need to
know more details about what it says and the station(s) involved to
explain it.

Would appreciate if you can let me know the next steps on the above two observerations and how to rectify them.
In summary: Double-click the heading panel twice to restore center
tracking to "Me". Upgrade to the 2/12 release to remove redundant acks.

73
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: Using latest ver. of APRSISCE on HTC P3300 Mobile phone

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

vu2yep wrote:
I would like to take this opportunity thank you for getting this useful software in place for the Ham community. I am overall very happy with th the results of the software and have been using it for over a month or so.
Thanks for the comments. I'm glad others beyond myself are getting use out of my efforts.

I installed the latest version of APRSISCE on my mobile phone, overall its working ok for me, yet to explore the the additional features added.
Actually, given your comments below, I suspect you don't have the latest latest version. I did three releases in three days to fix some of these issues. If you do an About, it should say "Built: 2010/02/12 14:51". If your's is earlier than that, head on back to the Yahoo group to get the latest.

1. The car's icon, if I set it to be in the center, its not staying in the center after the current map screen's distance is covered by the car or car icon.. the car moves out of the circle ( circle in which we see the map) and I have to manually drag the map to see where the car icon is. In the prvious version it was staying in the middle of the circle and just the map was getting refereshed. I have kept in mind the appropirate zoom levels as well. The red dot also not moving ahead of the car icon ulike earlier version. ( like showing the path).
This happens in the newer versions if you drag the map, intentionally or not, off the center. If you double-click on the Heading panel (the one that shows your current direction, below or beside the large speed panel), it will first move you back to center the station you're tracking, if it isn't you. If you double-click it again, it will change back to tracking yourself and also re-center yourself and resume moving the screen when you move.

In one of the recent releases, I decreased the sensitivity to inadvertant screen drags, but it is still fairly easy to accidentally move the map off center which results in a frozen map with your station moving across it. When that happens, the red dot is also also suppressed as it would no longer be moving relative to your station as it should.

I hope to provide some visual indication and easier way to know/change what station is being tracked and bring the tracked station back to the center in some future revision, as soon as I can figure out what would make sense visually.

2. When I am sending a text message to another APRS station, I believe as soon as the message is deliverd, I am getting a 'redundent something something' acknowledgement type of notificiation. The messages are coming and going all ok though.
The redundant acknowledgement popup was removed in the latest release. It occurs when you send a message to a station that has multiple paths into the APRS (RF and -IS) network. However, if you're getting a message about a "Pirated ack", that's a different case and I'll need to know more details about what it says and the station(s) involved to explain it.

Would appreciate if you can let me know the next steps on the above two observerations and how to rectify them.
In summary: Double-click the heading panel twice to restore center tracking to "Me". Upgrade to the 2/12 release to remove redundant acks.

73
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Using latest ver. of APRSISCE on HTC P3300 Mobile phone

VU2IB
 

Hi Lynn

I would like to take this opportunity thank you for getting this useful software in place for the Ham community. I am overall very happy with th the results of the software and have been using it for over a month or so.

I installed the latest version of APRSISCE on my mobile phone, overall its working ok for me, yet to explore the the additional features added.

I have one observation with regards to the mobile device usage, unlike previous version, I am mobile using my HTC P3300 (it has built in GPS receiver and I have GPRS connection on top of it).

1. The car's icon, if I set it to be in the center, its not staying in the center after the current map screen's distance is covered by the car or car icon.. the car moves out of the circle ( circle in which we see the map) and I have to manually drag the map to see where the car icon is. In the prvious version it was staying in the middle of the circle and just the map was getting refereshed. I have kept in mind the appropirate zoom levels as well. The red dot also not moving ahead of the car icon ulike earlier version. ( like showing the path).

2. When I am sending a text message to another APRS station, I believe as soon as the message is deliverd, I am getting a 'redundent something something' acknowledgement type of notificiation. The messages are coming and going all ok though.

Would appreciate if you can let me know the next steps on the above two observerations and how to rectify them.

73

Karan, VU2YEP


Re: Setup problem

David Shrum
 

Here is a site that might work, just putting it out the; if it works great,
if not, no harm done. It is a site that advertises Jeeps and GPS's. Just so
you all know, I have no interest in anything it might sell or promote. Just
the coordinate converter is the reason for the link.

Dave N8PU

http://www.jeepreviews.com/wireless-gps-coordinates/

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:06 PM
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Setup problem

James Jolin wrote:
Ok, I getting closer. First, you can't enter north latitude with a
minus sign...you wind up in South America. The second problem is
business about decimal degrees. The corrdinates here are 44.49.945N and
87.21.539W. Question: how is this entered in decimal degrees...I must
be doing it wrong because I wind up in Lake Michigan...a bit cool for
this time of year. I think this will clear up the problem.
73, Jim WA9ARB
Decimal Degrees = Degrees + minutes/60.0

or

44 degrees 49.945 minutes (APRS format) = 44.8324166666 (South is
negative, so we're positive)
87 degrees 21.539 minutes (APRS format) = -87.358983333 (Negative for West)

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS. I wish the web site WD4CWG suggested would accept decimal minutes!

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Re: Setup problem

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

James Jolin wrote:
Ok, I getting closer. First, you can't enter north latitude with a minus sign...you wind up in South America. The second problem is business about decimal degrees. The corrdinates here are 44.49.945N and 87.21.539W. Question: how is this entered in decimal degrees...I must be doing it wrong because I wind up in Lake Michigan...a bit cool for this time of year. I think this will clear up the problem.
73, Jim WA9ARB
Decimal Degrees = Degrees + minutes/60.0

or

44 degrees 49.945 minutes (APRS format) = 44.8324166666 (South is negative, so we're positive)
87 degrees 21.539 minutes (APRS format) = -87.358983333 (Negative for West)

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS. I wish the web site WD4CWG suggested would accept decimal minutes!


Re: Setup problem

Jerome Lofton <LoftonJ@...>
 

Jim,

Here is a convenient conversion website ... works both ways !

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/DDDMMSS-decimal.html

Jerome Lofton
WD4CWG




From: James Jolin <jjolin@itol.com>

To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com

Date: 02/15/2010 03:34 PM

Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Setup problem

Sent by: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com









Ok, I getting closer. First, you can't enter north latitude with a
minus sign...you wind up in South America. The second problem is
business about decimal degrees. The corrdinates here are 44.49.945N and
87.21.539W. Question: how is this entered in decimal degrees...I must
be doing it wrong because I wind up in Lake Michigan...a bit cool for
this time of year. I think this will clear up the problem.
73, Jim WA9ARB


Re: Setup problem

James Jolin <jjolin@...>
 

Ok, I getting closer. First, you can't enter north latitude with a minus sign...you wind up in South America. The second problem is business about decimal degrees. The corrdinates here are 44.49.945N and 87.21.539W. Question: how is this entered in decimal degrees...I must be doing it wrong because I wind up in Lake Michigan...a bit cool for this time of year. I think this will clear up the problem.
73, Jim WA9ARB


Re: Setup problem

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Colin,

m6xsd wrote:
Sorry Lynn,
No apologies are necessary!

My reply was badly worded, I was only refering to the CE version.
I was unsure which Win32 versions worked perfectly regarding non-GPS (I know I had 'issues' which you solved in the latest version), so I didn't mention Win32.
I was just trying to be helpful but failed dismally:(.
You're statement was correct as far as it went. I was just further clarifying it for the Win32 users out there that were also suffering from my inadvertent bust of a feature that was working for them (beaconing a fixed position in a non-GPS installation).

Please, everyone, keep up the suggestions and don't hesitate to offer support as you feel inspired. That's what "community" is all about. And also, please never take offense at whatever responses might come back. I truly appreciate all of the assistance in responding quickly to questions, and (contrary to recent appearances), I can't be at the keyboard all the time. And sometimes my responses may seem curt, but usually that's because I'm pressed for time but want to get a response out there.

If I ever DO have a problem with something that is posted (and I seriously doubt I ever will), I'll take it off the list to discuss it to a resolution. Everything I post publicly here is intended to clarify, not criticize, so please take it in that light.

Working together, we can get everyone up and running as well as help me identify the features to come and continue to improve the usability of the program.

73,
73 and you all have a Wonderful Day!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Colin
M6XSD.

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

m6xsd wrote:

Yep,I'm pretty sure the non-GPS Static Beacon only works on the latest CE version.
I can't wait until Lynn gets NMEA GPS over Bluetooth working.
Actually, non-GPS static beacon works in the latest version of both Windows Mobile and CE. About should show Built: 2010/02/12 14:51 for this to work. Also, Enables/Tracking Enabled must be checked.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ




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Re: Setup problem

m6xsd <m6xsd@...>
 

Sorry Lynn,

My reply was badly worded, I was only refering to the CE version.
I was unsure which Win32 versions worked perfectly regarding non-GPS (I know I had 'issues' which you solved in the latest version), so I didn't mention Win32.
I was just trying to be helpful but failed dismally:(.


73,
Colin
M6XSD.

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

m6xsd wrote:
Yep,I'm pretty sure the non-GPS Static Beacon only works on the latest CE version.
I can't wait until Lynn gets NMEA GPS over Bluetooth working.
Actually, non-GPS static beacon works in the latest version of both
Windows Mobile and CE. About should show Built: 2010/02/12 14:51 for
this to work. Also, Enables/Tracking Enabled must be checked.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: Setup problem

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

m6xsd wrote:
Yep,I'm pretty sure the non-GPS Static Beacon only works on the latest CE version.
I can't wait until Lynn gets NMEA GPS over Bluetooth working.
Actually, non-GPS static beacon works in the latest version of both Windows Mobile and CE. About should show Built: 2010/02/12 14:51 for this to work. Also, Enables/Tracking Enabled must be checked.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: Setup problem

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

james_jolin wrote:
Using the first version of aprsis32 and I can't seem to get my coordinates to "take." I put in the latitude and longetude values and save the xml file and everthing is ok til I run the probram and it comes up with no maps and a "laptop" in the middle of the big circle with the wrong coordinates in the "info." When I look in the xml file the corrdinates have changed to 90.000 Latitude and 180.00 longitue. I know I am doing something wrong, but I can't seem to find it.
Jim
I would strongly suggest downloading the latest APRSIS32 from the Yahoo Group files section. It fixes quite a few things, not the least of which is the ability to "track" a fixed Lat/Lon.

APRSIS32 keeps its configuration in APRSIS32.XML (as you already know) in the default directory within which you run the program (usually the same directory as where the .EXE resides, but not always). To edit the XML, always make sure the program is CLOSED. Otherwise, your changes will be lost when the program closes the next time as it completely rewrites the XML file when closing.

Inside the XML file, locate the <Latitude> and <Longitude> tags (not the <Center.Lat/Lon> nor the <Preferred.Lat/Lon>. These numbers are in decimal degrees where Negative is for the Southern and Western hemispheres. Once you have your desired coordinates set in the .XML, restart the client and your laptop should be at the proper place as indicated by checking the "Me" Info popup.

As for the maps, I'm hoping that is an issue related to 180/90 as I've got no idea what the program will do with that setting, nor where it's coming up with such a setting.

Finally, if all else fails, just delete the .XML file and start the client again. It will prompt for the initial configuration and will allow you to pan/zoom the maps to get to your home location. Once you have the home location centered, close the client and restart it and all will be well. If you don't get maps on this initial execution without an existing XML file, there's something else going on with your installation, I'm guessing a firewall or a required proxy.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: Setup problem

m6xsd <m6xsd@...>
 

Yep,I'm pretty sure the non-GPS Static Beacon only works on the latest CE version.
I can't wait until Lynn gets NMEA GPS over Bluetooth working.


73,
Colin
M6XSD.

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Williams" <phonetech@...> wrote:

Hi Jim,
I think you need to use the latest version if you are using it with out a
gps connected.
Cheers,
Robin ZL3REW

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of james_jolin
Sent: Monday, 15 February 2010 2:40 p.m.
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [aprsisce] Setup problem

Using the first version of aprsis32 and I can't seem to get my coordinates
to "take." I put in the latitude and longetude values and save the xml file
and everthing is ok til I run the probram and it comes up with no maps and a
"laptop" in the middle of the big circle with the wrong coordinates in the
"info." When I look in the xml file the corrdinates have changed to 90.000
Latitude and 180.00 longitue. I know I am doing something wrong, but I
can't seem to find it.
Jim




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Re: HTC Touch Pro

m6xsd <m6xsd@...>
 

Yep, I agree with Julian, it's an excellent App. Well done for finding it & letting us know about it Jerone.


73,
Colin
M6XSD.

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "g4ilo" <julian.g4ilo@...> wrote:

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, Jerome Lofton <LoftonJ@> wrote:

Julian,

I use "Slide To Unlock 2" (S2U2) as an automatic screen locking app ....
works great and is compatible to co-exist with APRSISCE.

http://www.ac-s2.com/
Thanks, Jerome. That's a super app.

Julian, G4ILO


Re: Setup problem

Robin Williams <phonetech@...>
 

Hi Jim,
I think you need to use the latest version if you are using it with out a
gps connected.
Cheers,
Robin ZL3REW

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of james_jolin
Sent: Monday, 15 February 2010 2:40 p.m.
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [aprsisce] Setup problem

Using the first version of aprsis32 and I can't seem to get my coordinates
to "take." I put in the latitude and longetude values and save the xml file
and everthing is ok til I run the probram and it comes up with no maps and a
"laptop" in the middle of the big circle with the wrong coordinates in the
"info." When I look in the xml file the corrdinates have changed to 90.000
Latitude and 180.00 longitue. I know I am doing something wrong, but I
can't seem to find it.
Jim




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Yahoo! Groups Links


Setup problem

james_jolin <jjolin@...>
 

Using the first version of aprsis32 and I can't seem to get my coordinates to "take." I put in the latitude and longetude values and save the xml file and everthing is ok til I run the probram and it comes up with no maps and a "laptop" in the middle of the big circle with the wrong coordinates in the "info." When I look in the xml file the corrdinates have changed to 90.000 Latitude and 180.00 longitue. I know I am doing something wrong, but I can't seem to find it.
Jim


Re: server

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Robin Williams wrote:
Is there a way to find out what server you are connected to.
thanks.
Right click on your own station ("Me") and bring up the Info box. The
bottom line or two will show the DNS name and port as well as the
current IP translation and port that the client is currently using.
This is only in the latest releases, however. Nothing before 02/2010
(see About) shows this info on Me.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


server

Robin Williams <phonetech@...>
 

Hi Lynn and others,
Is there a way to find out what server you are connected to.
thanks.
Robin