APRSISCE@groups.io

Re: Aprsis32 710ga

Adam Mahnke

#35617

if you look at aprs.fi and search for kc2ant-9 on Sept 11th and find the track from 6am until about 2pm that is all a D710AG being paired with APRSIS32 on a Win10 laptop. I had it hooked up to an internet connection to be a mobile IGate to support a special event that day.

What you are asking can be accomplished yes.

Adam

KC2ANT

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On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:05 AM JR Riner <ke4pmp@...> wrote:

Anyone have the sw running with the kw 710ga? My ? Is when conneted to the 710 control head the data it dumps to my tablet will be received packets via rf? No internet required?
73, ke4pmp

Aprsis32 710ga

JR Riner

#35616

Anyone have the sw running with the kw 710ga? My ? Is when conneted to the 710 control head the data it dumps to my tablet will be received packets via rf? No internet required?
73, ke4pmp

Re: hello where can i find the download program for the APRISCE 32 for windows 10

Adam Mahnke

#35615

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/downloads

Please look around the rest of the site as well

Adam

KC2ANT

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On Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 05:28 rodney lamay <rodneylamay97@...> wrote:

thank you rodney lamay ki6pxv

hello where can i find the download program for the APRISCE 32 for windows 10

rodneylamay97@...

#35614

thank you rodney lamay ki6pxv

Re: APRSIS32 and Soundmodem by UZ7HO

Peter Dodd

#35613

Hi Facundo,

On my system transmitted packets are red and received black

Your transmitted packet was digipeated so system is working correctly.

You should see that the time in first line has a T after it and the second packet has an R after the time and the WIDE1-1 is missing indicated one hop has occurred.

I am using mine for 30m hf aprs.

Cheers

Peter

VK7KPC-4

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From: Lynn Deffenbaugh

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:53 AM

To: APRSISCE@groups.io

Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] APRSIS32 and Soundmodem by UZ7HO

That was my first thought as well, but your PHG also is not completely populated. You either need to select appropriate options or remove it from your beacon text.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 9/19/2021 3:42 PM, Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:

I'd check the UZ7HO docs before making an assumption.

I don't have quick access to them, but ...

Possible it is not an error, but RED is TX, and black is received.

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 15:33, facundof2@...

mailto:facundof2@... wrote:

Been setting up APRSIS32 with the Soundmodem by UZ7HO and Every time the station beacons, the soundmodem main window shows the following messages, with the first two lines in red and the second two in black. This to me indicates an error or a collision and then my packet seems to be retransmitted by the N4NE digipeater (one of the main in the area):

1:Fm KK4ODA To APWW11 Via WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 <UI C Pid=F0 Len=63> [13:55:04T]

@175504h3350.35N/08416.52Wl360/000/A=001003PHG///0From Home QTH

1:Fm KK4ODA To APWW11 Via N4NE-2*,WIDE2-1 <UI C Pid=F0 Len=63> [13:55:07R] [+++]

@175504h3350.35N/08416.52Wl360/000/A=001003PHG///0From Home QTH

Any thoughts why the first two lines are showing an error? I am using an IC-9700 on a usb cable set to COM7

Thank you

Facundo, KK4ODA

Re: APRSIS32 and Soundmodem by UZ7HO

Lynn Deffenbaugh

#35612

That was my first thought as well, but your PHG also is not completely populated. You either need to select appropriate options or remove it from your beacon text.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

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On 9/19/2021 3:42 PM, Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:

I'd check the UZ7HO docs before making an assumption.

I don't have quick access to them, but ...

Possible it is not an error, but RED is TX, and black is received.

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 15:33, facundof2@...

<facundof2@...> wrote:

Been setting up APRSIS32 with the Soundmodem by UZ7HO and Every time the station beacons, the soundmodem main window shows the following messages, with the first two lines in red and the second two in black. This to me indicates an error or a collision and then my packet seems to be retransmitted by the N4NE digipeater (one of the main in the area):

1:Fm KK4ODA To APWW11 Via WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 <UI C Pid=F0 Len=63> [13:55:04T]

@175504h3350.35N/08416.52Wl360/000/A=001003PHG///0From Home QTH

1:Fm KK4ODA To APWW11 Via N4NE-2*,WIDE2-1 <UI C Pid=F0 Len=63> [13:55:07R] [+++]

@175504h3350.35N/08416.52Wl360/000/A=001003PHG///0From Home QTH

Any thoughts why the first two lines are showing an error? I am using an IC-9700 on a usb cable set to COM7

Thank you

Facundo, KK4ODA

Re: APRSIS32 and Soundmodem by UZ7HO

Rob Giuliano

#35611

I'd check the UZ7HO docs before making an assumption.

I don't have quick access to them, but ...

Possible it is not an error, but RED is TX, and black is received.

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On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 15:33, facundof2@...
<facundof2@...> wrote:

Been setting up APRSIS32 with the Soundmodem by UZ7HO and Every time the station beacons, the soundmodem main window shows the following messages, with the first two lines in red and the second two in black. This to me indicates an error or a collision and then my packet seems to be retransmitted by the N4NE digipeater (one of the main in the area):

1:Fm KK4ODA To APWW11 Via WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 <UI C Pid=F0 Len=63> [13:55:04T]

@175504h3350.35N/08416.52Wl360/000/A=001003PHG///0From Home QTH

1:Fm KK4ODA To APWW11 Via N4NE-2*,WIDE2-1 <UI C Pid=F0 Len=63> [13:55:07R] [+++]

@175504h3350.35N/08416.52Wl360/000/A=001003PHG///0From Home QTH

Any thoughts why the first two lines are showing an error? I am using an IC-9700 on a usb cable set to COM7

Thank you

Facundo, KK4ODA

APRSIS32 and Soundmodem by UZ7HO

facundof2@...

#35610

Been setting up APRSIS32 with the Soundmodem by UZ7HO and Every time the station beacons, the soundmodem main window shows the following messages, with the first two lines in red and the second two in black. This to me indicates an error or a collision and then my packet seems to be retransmitted by the N4NE digipeater (one of the main in the area):

1:Fm KK4ODA To APWW11 Via WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 <UI C Pid=F0 Len=63> [13:55:04T]

@175504h3350.35N/08416.52Wl360/000/A=001003PHG///0From Home QTH

1:Fm KK4ODA To APWW11 Via N4NE-2*,WIDE2-1 <UI C Pid=F0 Len=63> [13:55:07R] [+++]

@175504h3350.35N/08416.52Wl360/000/A=001003PHG///0From Home QTH

Any thoughts why the first two lines are showing an error? I am using an IC-9700 on a usb cable set to COM7

Thank you

Facundo, KK4ODA

Re: Joined CQ group with another member - group not showing in bulletin group dropdown

KH6CP Craig Paul

#35609

Thank you, Lynn.

So how do I get the bulletin drop down to populate with bulletin groups I wish to communicate with?

Craig/KH6CP

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On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 12:16 PM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Bulletins have nothing to do with ANSRVR.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/30/2021 6:14 PM, KH6CP Craig Paul wrote:

Win 10 Home 21H1

Intel I7

APRSIS32 2020/05/01 21:21

I've joined a previously existing group and tried to send a bulletin to it

clicked ENABLE, chose the A dropdown, but the group dropdown was greyed out.

I unjoined that same group, created my own group (verified it in the XML config) and

saw it in the ANSRVR.

Tried to create a bulletin for it, as above, but the group dropdown was still greyed out.

Got out of APRSIS32 and back in again. Group dropdown is still greyed out.

What am I missing?

Thanks!

Craig/KH6CP

Re: Joined CQ group with another member - group not showing in bulletin group dropdown

Lynn Deffenbaugh

#35608

Bulletins have nothing to do with ANSRVR.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

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On 8/30/2021 6:14 PM, KH6CP Craig Paul wrote:

Win 10 Home 21H1

Intel I7

APRSIS32 2020/05/01 21:21

I've joined a previously existing group and tried to send a bulletin to it

clicked ENABLE, chose the A dropdown, but the group dropdown was greyed out.

I unjoined that same group, created my own group (verified it in the XML config) and

saw it in the ANSRVR.

Tried to create a bulletin for it, as above, but the group dropdown was still greyed out.

Got out of APRSIS32 and back in again. Group dropdown is still greyed out.

What am I missing?

Thanks!

Craig/KH6CP

Joined CQ group with another member - group not showing in bulletin group dropdown

KH6CP Craig Paul

#35607

Win 10 Home 21H1

Intel I7

APRSIS32 2020/05/01 21:21

I've joined a previously existing group and tried to send a bulletin to it

clicked ENABLE, chose the A dropdown, but the group dropdown was greyed out.

I unjoined that same group, created my own group (verified it in the XML config) and

saw it in the ANSRVR.

Tried to create a bulletin for it, as above, but the group dropdown was still greyed out.

Got out of APRSIS32 and back in again. Group dropdown is still greyed out.

What am I missing?

Thanks!

Craig/KH6CP

Re: APRSIS32 Questions

Lynn Deffenbaugh

#35606

Answers interspersed below...

On 8/30/2021 3:21 AM, George wrote:

Hello Lynn,

Thank you for the passcode over the phone on Sunday. I appreciate that.

I have a few questions, if you could be so kind to help me out.

Picture A:

- How do I get rid of J3H.SH.2? I do not know what that is or where it came from.
- How do I get rid of the grey triangle shape just to the right of the popup window?

That is an object shape. I don't know if you received it over RF or if you locally created it. If click on the red plus sign, it should give you a pop-up menu. If you then select any of the entries at the top of that menu, it will bring up additional information. I'll need to see that information to know what it is to help you get rid of it.

- How can I change the small computer icon at my location to say a red solid circle (or something like that)?

Select Configure / General and then click on the small PC symbol just to the left of "<Click to <Change". Spin the buttons until you get whatever symbol you want and then Accept the dialogs. The following diagrams might help in knowing what is available. The top one is the Primary table symbols, and the bottom one is the Secondary table symbols. The table in the middle shows the ASCII character that corresponds to that same place in the other two tables.

From http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/APRS_symbols.htm

Grid of the text codes used to represent APRS symbols in
the standard position format.

Picture B:

- How do I clear the grey oval centered around Boise?

This also appears to be an area object. Again, click on the red plus in the center and select one of the top options in that popup to get the additional information about that station.

Please see text below:

1:Fm NJ3H To APWW11 Via WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 <UI C Pid=F0 Len=53> [23:45:05T]

@064505h4418.05N/12109.60Wl CN94kh, Redmond, OR

- In the second line, after 12109.60W, there is a lower case ‘L’ being displayed. Where could this be coming from? It is not part of the text I entered for my grid square and city, state.

As you can see in the diagrams above, the lower-case L is the code for the "laptop" in the primary table. The / between the N and 121 in your packet above specifies the primary table. APRS interleaves the table/overlay and symbol selection characters between and after the Lat/Lon specification in your packet. If you want to read more details about that, search the Internet for APRS101.pdf.

Oh, and including the gridsquare with your coordinates is a bit redundant as is the city description.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Re: Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

KH6CP Craig Paul

#35605

Rats!

That line should read

Here on Oahu many places don't have "wide open spaces" so that low power RF transmissions can't be assured of "long reach".

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 7:35 PM KH6CP Craig Paul via groups.io <carcarx=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Here on Oahu many places don't have "wide open spaces" so that low power RF transmissions can be assured of "long reach".
Emergency management districts have a terrain component to them.

Craig/KH6CP

Re: Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

KH6CP Craig Paul

#35604

Thanks, Greg,

Here on Oahu many places don't have "wide open spaces" so that low power RF transmissions can be assured of "long reach".

Emergency management districts have a terrain component to them.

In my "ideal" world amateur radio district emergency coordinators would have APRS message group and bulletin group transmission capable radios.

If they had those capabilities a very power efficient method for event preparedness might go something like this:

Pre-disaster:

Via global message/group message:

Arrange wilderness protocol timings, messaging/bulletin/announcement groups and

delineations of groups and each group’s geographic district boundaries

Pending disaster: Radio/messaging checks – any last minute changes (announcements, then

closer to damaging conditions bulletins if necessary)

During disaster: Reports of utility outages/damage (beacons, objects, and group messages) toward

a common operating picture

Post-disaster: Road blockages/closures, flooding, structural damage (beacons, objects, and group

messages) toward a common operating picture

Wind-down: Announcement to groups of district debrief meetings (virtual or otherwise)

I know that a hurricane scarred US territory is using APRS bulletins to distribute weather and earthquake alerts.

Alas, only Kenwood radios have group origination capabilities. Yaesu APRS radios can properly receive group messages and bulletins/announcements.

It would be great if we had a radio-agnostic RF only method to take advantage of groups messages and bulletins/announcements.

Heck, I'd even pay for something like that!

Thoughts?

Craig/KH6CP

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On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 3:49 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:

I see that now. It used to have e the ability to send to groups but that looks like its just been integrated into regular messaging. I just sent a message to Yaesu from my -1 station and my -11 portable picked it up as a group message.

Maybe Lynn has more information on it?

KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: KH6CP Craig Paul <carcarx@...>

Date: 8/29/21 17:37 (GMT-05:00)

To: "APRSISCE@groups.io Group Moderators" <APRSISCE@groups.io>

Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

Thank, Greg,

"Messages> bulletins> create" - that method, by itself, will not let me populate a group.

I'm seeking direct input to the "group" field without ANSRVR or CQSRVR being involved.

Seems like APRSIS32 doesn't allow that.

Thanks!

Craig/KH6CP

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 4:29 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:

ANSRVR is a server hosted by Lynn for group chats. You mentioned bulletins earlier. You can go to Messages> bulletins> create and from there make a bulletin to go out on IS and RF. 32 knows which ports are avail and will send appropriately. You can also force it to do one or the other if you so choose.

The biggest thing is having the ports setup to be able to be sent on RF.

ANSRVR: to get a group to populate you have to join said group. Go Messages> Announcements > Join group. From there you will put the group name which if I remember correctly has to be a single word.

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:ansrvr

KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: KH6CP Craig Paul <carcarx@...>

Date: 8/28/21 22:06 (GMT-05:00)

To: "APRSISCE@groups.io Group Moderators" <APRSISCE@groups.io>

Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

Hi, Greg,

If I'm dealing with a "grid-down" situation I won't have access to the ANSRVR, right?

I have to register a group with ANSRVR to get the group drop-down to populate with a group.

(And I haven't gotten a registered group to populate the drop-down, yet. Any hints?

If it's not of general interest please e-mail me directly.)

Thanks!

Craig/KH6CP

And,

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 3:32 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:

Do you have an RF port setup on your copy of 32? The messages and bulletins will go out on RF as long as you have the port setup and the correct boxes checked.

KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: KH6CP Craig Paul <carcarx@...>

Date: 8/28/21 21:02 (GMT-05:00)

To: "APRSISCE@groups.io Group Moderators" <APRSISCE@groups.io>

Subject: [APRSISCE] Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

I'm accustomed to being able to send announcements and bulletins from my
Kenwoods, and was hoping that APRSIS32 would provide a similar capability

with a real (computer) keyboard!

It seems that Messages/Announcements/Bulletins talks to an internet server

elsewhere.

Is it possible to send something akin to BLNx<groupname> with APRSIS32

and have it behave as in Chapter 14 of APRS101?

If not is there any Windows program that will do this (via a soundcard modem like

Direwolf?)

Thank you!

Craig/KH6CP

Re: Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

Greg Depew

#35603

I see that now. It used to have e the ability to send to groups but that looks like its just been integrated into regular messaging. I just sent a message to Yaesu from my -1 station and my -11 portable picked it up as a group message.

Maybe Lynn has more information on it?

KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

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-------- Original message --------

From: KH6CP Craig Paul <carcarx@...>

Date: 8/29/21 17:37 (GMT-05:00)

To: "APRSISCE@groups.io Group Moderators" <APRSISCE@groups.io>

Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

Thank, Greg,

"Messages> bulletins> create" - that method, by itself, will not let me populate a group.

I'm seeking direct input to the "group" field without ANSRVR or CQSRVR being involved.

Seems like APRSIS32 doesn't allow that.

Thanks!

Craig/KH6CP

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 4:29 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:

ANSRVR is a server hosted by Lynn for group chats. You mentioned bulletins earlier. You can go to Messages> bulletins> create and from there make a bulletin to go out on IS and RF. 32 knows which ports are avail and will send appropriately. You can also force it to do one or the other if you so choose.

The biggest thing is having the ports setup to be able to be sent on RF.

ANSRVR: to get a group to populate you have to join said group. Go Messages> Announcements > Join group. From there you will put the group name which if I remember correctly has to be a single word.

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:ansrvr

KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: KH6CP Craig Paul <carcarx@...>

Date: 8/28/21 22:06 (GMT-05:00)

To: "APRSISCE@groups.io Group Moderators" <APRSISCE@groups.io>

Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

Hi, Greg,

If I'm dealing with a "grid-down" situation I won't have access to the ANSRVR, right?

I have to register a group with ANSRVR to get the group drop-down to populate with a group.

(And I haven't gotten a registered group to populate the drop-down, yet. Any hints?

If it's not of general interest please e-mail me directly.)

Thanks!

Craig/KH6CP

And,

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 3:32 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:

Do you have an RF port setup on your copy of 32? The messages and bulletins will go out on RF as long as you have the port setup and the correct boxes checked.

KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: KH6CP Craig Paul <carcarx@...>

Date: 8/28/21 21:02 (GMT-05:00)

To: "APRSISCE@groups.io Group Moderators" <APRSISCE@groups.io>

Subject: [APRSISCE] Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

I'm accustomed to being able to send announcements and bulletins from my
Kenwoods, and was hoping that APRSIS32 would provide a similar capability

with a real (computer) keyboard!

It seems that Messages/Announcements/Bulletins talks to an internet server

elsewhere.

Is it possible to send something akin to BLNx<groupname> with APRSIS32

and have it behave as in Chapter 14 of APRS101?

If not is there any Windows program that will do this (via a soundcard modem like

Direwolf?)

Thank you!

Craig/KH6CP

Re: Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

KH6CP Craig Paul

#35602

Thank, Greg,

"Messages> bulletins> create" - that method, by itself, will not let me populate a group.

I'm seeking direct input to the "group" field without ANSRVR or CQSRVR being involved.

Seems like APRSIS32 doesn't allow that.

Thanks!

Craig/KH6CP

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On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 4:29 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:

ANSRVR is a server hosted by Lynn for group chats. You mentioned bulletins earlier. You can go to Messages> bulletins> create and from there make a bulletin to go out on IS and RF. 32 knows which ports are avail and will send appropriately. You can also force it to do one or the other if you so choose.

The biggest thing is having the ports setup to be able to be sent on RF.

ANSRVR: to get a group to populate you have to join said group. Go Messages> Announcements > Join group. From there you will put the group name which if I remember correctly has to be a single word.

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:ansrvr

KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: KH6CP Craig Paul <carcarx@...>

Date: 8/28/21 22:06 (GMT-05:00)

To: "APRSISCE@groups.io Group Moderators" <APRSISCE@groups.io>

Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

Hi, Greg,

If I'm dealing with a "grid-down" situation I won't have access to the ANSRVR, right?

I have to register a group with ANSRVR to get the group drop-down to populate with a group.

(And I haven't gotten a registered group to populate the drop-down, yet. Any hints?

If it's not of general interest please e-mail me directly.)

Thanks!

Craig/KH6CP

And,

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 3:32 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:

Do you have an RF port setup on your copy of 32? The messages and bulletins will go out on RF as long as you have the port setup and the correct boxes checked.

KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: KH6CP Craig Paul <carcarx@...>

Date: 8/28/21 21:02 (GMT-05:00)

To: "APRSISCE@groups.io Group Moderators" <APRSISCE@groups.io>

Subject: [APRSISCE] Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

I'm accustomed to being able to send announcements and bulletins from my
Kenwoods, and was hoping that APRSIS32 would provide a similar capability

with a real (computer) keyboard!

It seems that Messages/Announcements/Bulletins talks to an internet server

elsewhere.

Is it possible to send something akin to BLNx<groupname> with APRSIS32

and have it behave as in Chapter 14 of APRS101?

If not is there any Windows program that will do this (via a soundcard modem like

Direwolf?)

Thank you!

Craig/KH6CP

Re: GPS Enabled

Rob Giuliano

#35601

Sorry, but this does not really help me.

You give me all kinds of info on the D710. We deal with APRSIS32.

The only infomration about your configuration of APRSIS32 is

CONFIGURE

Ports

APRS-IS

NMEA

This definitaly does point us to your problem.

We have been telling you to remove, delete, eliminate the NMEA port.

The only way to read the NMEA data from a GPS attached to a radio is through the radio (RF) port.

The NMEA port in APRSIS32 is only used for a GPS directly connected to the computer.

Your GPS is connected to the radio.

You MUST - repeat - MUST delete the NMEA port from >Menu >Configure >NMEA

There is no GPS connected directly to the computer.

Lynn will have to verify, but I think this is done by editing the XML file

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:editing-xml-configuration

Find the line in the XML that reads something like this:

<GPSPort>COM3:4800,n,8,1</GPSPort>
and change it to read

Let's go through the RF port specifics:

What is the RF port type you are using to communicate with the D710?

I need info something like this:

KWD710(APRS)

COMn Serial COM3 9600,n,8,1

The the actual RF port settings:

NOTE: GPS/NMEA is checked - That is how APRSIS32 gets the GPS dtaa from your radio (with attached GPS)

Robert Giuliano

KB8RCO

On Sunday, August 29, 2021, 01:46:11 PM EDT, Burt N Sammis <kango03@...> wrote:

Sorry I have not gotten back to the group. I have had other priorities that got in the way.

Robert I appreciate your suggestion on going into the RFport, etc. I am not computer literate to do that.

I am listing the various settings on APSISIECW 32 and D710 settings

:

ENABLE

checked APRS-IS enabled

checked Beaconing enabled

checked GPS enabled

checked Internet acc enabled

checked OMS Fetch enabled

Menu View Logs

Port NMEA

Error opening ComPort 3

CONFIGURE

Ports

APRS-IS

NMEA

D710

Menu 602

Baud rate - 4800 bps

Input GPS

Output Waypoint

Maybe the above can help clear this up.

Otherwise, I will go with what I have. My problem if it available I want it to work.

Burt

AF5AA

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 2:56 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

Just to be certain:

in the APRSIS32.xml file RFPort looks something like:

<RFPort Name="D710">
<Protocol>KWD710(APRS)</Protocol>
<Device>COM3:9600,N,8,1</Device>

      {snip - other settings not being discussed}

      {          although <OpenCmd> commands could be VERY important! }

<Enabled>1</Enabled>

<XmitEnabled>1</XmitEnabled>

<ProvidesNMEA>1</ProvidesNMEA>

     {snip - other settings not being discussed}


</RFPort>

and the section about NMEA ports looks like this:

<GPSPort></GPSPort>

Remember, APRSIS32 must be closed when hand editing the xml.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

On Monday, August 23, 2021, 03:15:36 PM EDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

As Robert outlined below, you should NOT configure nor enable an NMEA/GPS port for passthrough. Windows only allows each COMM port to be opened once, and the RF Port is doing that.

Please de-configure your NMEA port and make sure the GPS/NMEA checkbox is checked on your RF Port. And then you'll also need to ensure that the RF Port's <OpenCmd>s specifically enable GPS sentences to be sent from your radio.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/23/2021 2:33 PM, Burt N Sammis wrote:

I eliminated the radio. I changed the radio (D710G) to a D710 with an external GPS (Green Leaf Labs) Has always worked great in any situation. And, still does.

GPS is flashing in the upper right corner of the D710. The radio now becomes a pass thru to APRSISCE.

Still the same result. The computer indicates the problem is connecting to Com 3.

Com 3 is the USB virtual port for the D710 also.

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 12:31 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

I believe NMEA is open means the state is trying to open the NMEA port.

Is COM3 the USB virtual port for the D710G?

Or a different port - remember the 2 sets of data are on the same port.

Close APRSIS32 and find the APRSIS32.xml file (in the APRSIS32.exe folder).

Open it in a text edit and search on GPS.

You should find:

<Enables.GPS>1</Enables.GPS>

and later in the file

If the second instance has anything in it (like <GPSPort>vom3:9600,n,8,1</GPSPort>)

delete everything between <GPSPort> and </GPSPort>

Then go down and find your  port settings

If you have more than one, find the one for the D710G and check these settings:

<Device> {your settings} </Device>

{Your settings} will tell you what APRSIS32 uses for a COM port and the settings. Is that COM3?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 01:09:53 PM EDT, Burt N Sammis <kango03@...> wrote:

iGPS is flashing on the D710G display. D710G has the interrnal GPS and radio is connected to the PC via an USB port.

GPS/NMEA are checked.

On the APRSIS display screen upper left corner "APRS is OK."

"NMEA is open"

Enables menu-View all logs, NMEA log shows an error message: "Error opening Com 3" It tries to connect but cannot.

Something is hindering the opening Com 3.

Robert, remember our email of July 24 when I "fixed" menu 500 and said that was it.

I had a power outage after that and everything went to hell.

Burt

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 10:37 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

I thought you were using a GPS connected to the radio and feeding NMEA messages through the configured RF port?

GPS/NMEA checked.

If the D710G is sending GPS data, it is on the RF port.

Do not try and configure a different port with >Configure >Ports > NMEA.

Double check to see that iGPS is showing on the D710G display and if not, menu 500.

As I recall (Lynn can verify), the GPS data comes through as plain text.

To view it in a terminal program you would need to:

1. Close APRSIS32 RF port from D710G (same comm port as GPS data is on

2. Open terminal program (ComTestSerial, TeraTerm, or RealTerm are all good free options)

3. Set port parameters to match the D710 port settings

Yuo will see some "KISS" code, but you shoulod also see GPS messages from the radio.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 10:57:04 AM EDT, Burt N Sammis <kango03@...> wrote:

I am running Windows 10. No I cannot connect a terminal emulator.

Burt

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:42 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

What version of Windows are you on? Can you connect to the GPS Comm port with a terminal emulator like putty or teraterm?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/22/2021 10:26 AM, Burt N Sammis wrote:

OK Robert, I blew it.

I am unable to receive GPS info on APRSISCE.

I click on CONFIGURE then Ports, then NMEA which gives me the following.

"RegOpenKeyEX." In the same box is: "Failed to OpenSERIALCOMM Key"

What happened?

Burt

AF5AA

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Burt N Sammis <kango03@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 9:52 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

Thank you Robert!!!.

Menu 500 was the key. GPS output has to be ON. That did it

I have been trying to get the GPS function to work for months.

Again, thanks.

Burt

AF5AA.

-------- Original message --------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io" <kb8rco@...>

Date: 7/24/21 9:35 AM (GMT-06:00)

To: APRSISCE@groups.io

Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

I don't have either, but a friend has the "nonG" model.

Glacing through the manual for the G model, I see there are different indicators, depending on which GPS is in use:

    iGPS     => internal

    GPS     => external connected tothe 2.5 mm jack.

Menu 500 still offers GPS OUTPUT (GPS data output to PC)    Default OFF

Menu 501 SENTENCES with the most common 4 as default

Then moving up to Menu 6xx

   602 has key setting

   603 more settings

   604 Another ON/OFF toggle, but for APRS.

          I wonder if you have need to turn this OFF to allow raw GPS to the PC.

          Some systems allow APRS as WAYPOINTS only and won't send raw GPS strings when requesting APRS output.

          I can't say fro this Kenwood.

I didn't see anything that indicated you couldn't output the internal GPS data

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

On Friday, July 23, 2021, 7:18:49 PM EDT, Jeff <groups.0acf@...> wrote:

Robert,

Burt indicates that he is using a "G" model 710 with the *internal* GPS.

The reason I point this out is that I have a 710 and was considering upgrading to the 710G at one point, but I thought I read somewhere that with the "G" model you cannot have the internal GPS data pass through to the serial port, and that pass through only works for an externally connected GPS unit on the "G" model.

Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not?

Jeff
N5TEV

Re: Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

T W

#35600

Is there a list of these groups somewhere?

Show quoted text

On 28 Aug 2021, at 22:03, Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:

Copying to the group for more visibility. We welcome these kind of discussions here! :) 😃

Like I said in my other email the ANSRVR is more for group chatting and announcements. What you're looking for is built in with the bulletin system. You could have your receiving personal setup their radios and also the computer to receive messages from we'll say a group called WXANNONC. Then anyone can send a message to that group and it will show up on the front panels of others setup to receive it.

KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: carcarx@...

Date: 8/28/21 22:20 (GMT-05:00)

To: goatherder_4891@...

Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

Private to Greg,

Hi, Greg,

Here's what I have in mind for what I envision here on O'ahu.

Background: O'ahu's topography doesn't have "wide-open spaces". Sometimes we can get across one mountain range (Kaneohe to Honolulu), but not always

on 144.390, but Kaneohe can't often get to the west coast of O'ahu.

So, what I have in mind for bulletins/announcements is that each area with no mountain visibility will have its own bulletin group.

Should a tropical system come through and "shut us down" the bulletin groups will let us "broadcast" announcements (water truck coming tomorrow)

and bulletins (water truck is in location X now).

So, not having access to ANSRVR, if I understand correctly, means I'm out of luck with regards to the announcement/bulletin drop down to populate

the group fields.

I'm trying to get away from people who would need to broadcast announcements/bulletins to have to have a Kenwood.

Then I could take advantage of Direwolf 1.7's fx.25 for better signal reach.

Any ideas welcomed. Thanks!

Craig/KH6CP

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 3:32 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:

Do you have an RF port setup on your copy of 32? The messages and bulletins will go out on RF as long as you have the port setup and the correct boxes checked.

KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: KH6CP Craig Paul <carcarx@...>

Date: 8/28/21 21:02 (GMT-05:00)

To: "APRSISCE@groups.io Group Moderators" <APRSISCE@groups.io>

Subject: [APRSISCE] Wanting local (RF) only bulletin/announcement sending capability

I'm accustomed to being able to send announcements and bulletins from my
Kenwoods, and was hoping that APRSIS32 would provide a similar capability

with a real (computer) keyboard!

It seems that Messages/Announcements/Bulletins talks to an internet server

elsewhere.

Is it possible to send something akin to BLNx<groupname> with APRSIS32

and have it behave as in Chapter 14 of APRS101?

If not is there any Windows program that will do this (via a soundcard modem like

Direwolf?)

Thank you!

Craig/KH6CP

smime.p7s

Re: GPS Enabled

Burt N Sammis

#35599

Sorry I have not gotten back to the group. I have had other priorities that got in the way.

Robert I appreciate your suggestion on going into the RFport, etc. I am not computer literate to do that.

I am listing the various settings on APSISIECW 32 and D710 settings

:

ENABLE

checked APRS-IS enabled

checked Beaconing enabled

checked GPS enabled

checked Internet acc enabled

checked OMS Fetch enabled

Menu View Logs

Port NMEA

Error opening ComPort 3

CONFIGURE

Ports

APRS-IS

NMEA

D710

Menu 602

Baud rate - 4800 bps

Input GPS

Output Waypoint

Maybe the above can help clear this up.

Otherwise, I will go with what I have. My problem if it available I want it to work.

Burt

AF5AA

Show quoted text

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 2:56 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

Just to be certain:

in the APRSIS32.xml file RFPort looks something like:

<RFPort Name="D710">
<Protocol>KWD710(APRS)</Protocol>
<Device>COM3:9600,N,8,1</Device>

      {snip - other settings not being discussed}

      {          although <OpenCmd> commands could be VERY important! }

<Enabled>1</Enabled>

<XmitEnabled>1</XmitEnabled>

<ProvidesNMEA>1</ProvidesNMEA>

     {snip - other settings not being discussed}


</RFPort>

and the section about NMEA ports looks like this:

<GPSPort></GPSPort>

Remember, APRSIS32 must be closed when hand editing the xml.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

On Monday, August 23, 2021, 03:15:36 PM EDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

As Robert outlined below, you should NOT configure nor enable an NMEA/GPS port for passthrough. Windows only allows each COMM port to be opened once, and the RF Port is doing that.

Please de-configure your NMEA port and make sure the GPS/NMEA checkbox is checked on your RF Port. And then you'll also need to ensure that the RF Port's <OpenCmd>s specifically enable GPS sentences to be sent from your radio.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/23/2021 2:33 PM, Burt N Sammis wrote:

I eliminated the radio. I changed the radio (D710G) to a D710 with an external GPS (Green Leaf Labs) Has always worked great in any situation. And, still does.

GPS is flashing in the upper right corner of the D710. The radio now becomes a pass thru to APRSISCE.

Still the same result. The computer indicates the problem is connecting to Com 3.

Com 3 is the USB virtual port for the D710 also.

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 12:31 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

I believe NMEA is open means the state is trying to open the NMEA port.

Is COM3 the USB virtual port for the D710G?

Or a different port - remember the 2 sets of data are on the same port.

Close APRSIS32 and find the APRSIS32.xml file (in the APRSIS32.exe folder).

Open it in a text edit and search on GPS.

You should find:

<Enables.GPS>1</Enables.GPS>

and later in the file

If the second instance has anything in it (like <GPSPort>vom3:9600,n,8,1</GPSPort>)

delete everything between <GPSPort> and </GPSPort>

Then go down and find your  port settings

If you have more than one, find the one for the D710G and check these settings:

<Device> {your settings} </Device>

{Your settings} will tell you what APRSIS32 uses for a COM port and the settings. Is that COM3?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 01:09:53 PM EDT, Burt N Sammis <kango03@...> wrote:

iGPS is flashing on the D710G display. D710G has the interrnal GPS and radio is connected to the PC via an USB port.

GPS/NMEA are checked.

On the APRSIS display screen upper left corner "APRS is OK."

"NMEA is open"

Enables menu-View all logs, NMEA log shows an error message: "Error opening Com 3" It tries to connect but cannot.

Something is hindering the opening Com 3.

Robert, remember our email of July 24 when I "fixed" menu 500 and said that was it.

I had a power outage after that and everything went to hell.

Burt

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 10:37 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

I thought you were using a GPS connected to the radio and feeding NMEA messages through the configured RF port?

GPS/NMEA checked.

If the D710G is sending GPS data, it is on the RF port.

Do not try and configure a different port with >Configure >Ports > NMEA.

Double check to see that iGPS is showing on the D710G display and if not, menu 500.

As I recall (Lynn can verify), the GPS data comes through as plain text.

To view it in a terminal program you would need to:

1. Close APRSIS32 RF port from D710G (same comm port as GPS data is on

2. Open terminal program (ComTestSerial, TeraTerm, or RealTerm are all good free options)

3. Set port parameters to match the D710 port settings

Yuo will see some "KISS" code, but you shoulod also see GPS messages from the radio.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

On Sunday, August 22, 2021, 10:57:04 AM EDT, Burt N Sammis <kango03@...> wrote:

I am running Windows 10. No I cannot connect a terminal emulator.

Burt

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:42 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

What version of Windows are you on? Can you connect to the GPS Comm port with a terminal emulator like putty or teraterm?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/22/2021 10:26 AM, Burt N Sammis wrote:

OK Robert, I blew it.

I am unable to receive GPS info on APRSISCE.

I click on CONFIGURE then Ports, then NMEA which gives me the following.

"RegOpenKeyEX." In the same box is: "Failed to OpenSERIALCOMM Key"

What happened?

Burt

AF5AA

From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Burt N Sammis <kango03@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 9:52 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

Thank you Robert!!!.

Menu 500 was the key. GPS output has to be ON. That did it

I have been trying to get the GPS function to work for months.

Again, thanks.

Burt

AF5AA.

-------- Original message --------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io" <kb8rco@...>

Date: 7/24/21 9:35 AM (GMT-06:00)

To: APRSISCE@groups.io

Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Enabled

I don't have either, but a friend has the "nonG" model.

Glacing through the manual for the G model, I see there are different indicators, depending on which GPS is in use:

    iGPS     => internal

    GPS     => external connected tothe 2.5 mm jack.

Menu 500 still offers GPS OUTPUT (GPS data output to PC)    Default OFF

Menu 501 SENTENCES with the most common 4 as default

Then moving up to Menu 6xx

   602 has key setting

   603 more settings

   604 Another ON/OFF toggle, but for APRS.

          I wonder if you have need to turn this OFF to allow raw GPS to the PC.

          Some systems allow APRS as WAYPOINTS only and won't send raw GPS strings when requesting APRS output.

          I can't say fro this Kenwood.

I didn't see anything that indicated you couldn't output the internal GPS data

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

On Friday, July 23, 2021, 7:18:49 PM EDT, Jeff <groups.0acf@...> wrote:

Robert,

Burt indicates that he is using a "G" model 710 with the *internal* GPS.

The reason I point this out is that I have a 710 and was considering upgrading to the 710G at one point, but I thought I read somewhere that with the "G" model you cannot have the internal GPS data pass through to the serial port, and that pass through only works for an externally connected GPS unit on the "G" model.

Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not?

Jeff
N5TEV

Re: Filter Language (code)

Michael McKenzie

#35598

I apologize for barking up the wrong tree. I need to learn more about the APRSIS32 Filters. Perhaps I can remove quite a bit of unusable to me info by selecting specific items in the Menu/View listings.
Please close this thread.