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Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Robert D. York
 

I reset tnc several times as I discovered suggestions from the APRS community. Which required hard reset or jumper rotation.
So I learned the significance of getting everything done before switching to KISS mode.
The APRSISCE software is another hurdle that will some practice.
Today you taught me how to get to Trace(transmit) and your suspension of port error was right on que.
Since I've learned the maze of deleting an undesirable port.
Thanks again for your help.



On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 12:13 PM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Can you fill us in on the resolution so that others that may have the same problem won't have to go through so many questions to get to the answer?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 1:07 PM, Robert D. York wrote:
Thanks Sir, the problem has been resolved thanks to your questions and direction.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 12:04 PM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

[INT] is an "INTernal" transmission used to propagate information strictly inside APRSISCE/32.

[IS+RF] is a packet that would like to be transmitted on both APRS-IS and RF ports, but only if said ports are actually enabled for transmitting the specific type of packet.

The Port(<YourPortName>) enabled and viewing is the next place to look for why a packet may not be getting to your TNC.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 12:39 PM, Robert D. York wrote:
Please define [INT] and [IS+RF] provided in Trace(Transmit) log

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: Kpc3+ settings for APRSISCE

Gil
 

Please check your KPC3+ (or KPC3) once you've got it in operation.  I have seen those TNCs delay packets for a significant amount of time before digipeating them.  They are sometimes delayed so long that the system thinks they're new packets - and repositions my mobile station accordingly.  I've seen my mobile beacons regurgitated by KPC3 digipeaters many minutes (and miles) after they were sent.  On a recurring basis, it makes the track appear to be bouncing back and forth from where it most recently was (as digipeated by other digipeaters) to where it formerly was (at a former beacon location delayed by the KPC3) - many miles away (I think astronomers call it "retrograde motion" when they refer to the apparent observed motion of some planets).  I have a problem with a KPC3 digipeater doing that right now (I need to try to contact the owner again...).  I can see my beacons showing up from it 5 or more minutes after they were sent from my station at another location.  It won't be obvious for a fixed station, but it sure shows up for mobiles.

Please just check that your setup is not doing that.  Monitor it for a while once you've got it going.  This is apparently a known problem for some KPC3s.  Lynn can probably provide information regarding what to do about it.

Gil Chapin, WB2UTI


Re: ICOM ID51A DPRS ON MAP

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Doesn't the D-star repeater or hotspot also need to be running D-PRS to take the received positions, reformat them, and inject them to the APRS-IS?

http://www.aprs-is.net/dprs.aspx


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 1:09 PM, justin killen via groups.io wrote:
First off, you have to be within range of a D-star repeater or hotspot. DPRS doesn’t work the same as APRS. As long as you’re at within range of a D-star repeater, is all in the settings of the radio from there


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Can you fill us in on the resolution so that others that may have the same problem won't have to go through so many questions to get to the answer?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 1:07 PM, Robert D. York wrote:
Thanks Sir, the problem has been resolved thanks to your questions and direction.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 12:04 PM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

[INT] is an "INTernal" transmission used to propagate information strictly inside APRSISCE/32.

[IS+RF] is a packet that would like to be transmitted on both APRS-IS and RF ports, but only if said ports are actually enabled for transmitting the specific type of packet.

The Port(<YourPortName>) enabled and viewing is the next place to look for why a packet may not be getting to your TNC.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 12:39 PM, Robert D. York wrote:
Please define [INT] and [IS+RF] provided in Trace(Transmit) log

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: ICOM ID51A DPRS ON MAP

justin killen
 

First off, you have to be within range of a D-star repeater or hotspot. DPRS doesn’t work the same as APRS. As long as you’re at within range of a D-star repeater, is all in the settings of the radio from there


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Robert D. York
 

Thanks Sir, the problem has been resolved thanks to your questions and direction.


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 12:04 PM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

[INT] is an "INTernal" transmission used to propagate information strictly inside APRSISCE/32.

[IS+RF] is a packet that would like to be transmitted on both APRS-IS and RF ports, but only if said ports are actually enabled for transmitting the specific type of packet.

The Port(<YourPortName>) enabled and viewing is the next place to look for why a packet may not be getting to your TNC.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 12:39 PM, Robert D. York wrote:
Please define [INT] and [IS+RF] provided in Trace(Transmit) log

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

[INT] is an "INTernal" transmission used to propagate information strictly inside APRSISCE/32.

[IS+RF] is a packet that would like to be transmitted on both APRS-IS and RF ports, but only if said ports are actually enabled for transmitting the specific type of packet.

The Port(<YourPortName>) enabled and viewing is the next place to look for why a packet may not be getting to your TNC.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 12:39 PM, Robert D. York wrote:
Please define [INT] and [IS+RF] provided in Trace(Transmit) log

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: ICOM ID51A DPRS ON MAP

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

I'm not sure I know what an "ID51A GPS" is?  But I suspect it has to do with D-Star and not APRS...

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 12:35 PM, Al Massaro KF5SMH wrote:
We are attempting to have all of our team members activate their ID51A GPS  and then be able to track them on the map.
As yet we cannot get the position reports to show up on the map, we have tried both the A and G message options.
Anybody try this and if so, how did you get it to work?
Any help appreciated!

AL M 
KF5SMH


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Robert D. York
 

Please define [INT] and [IS+RF] provided in Trace(Transmit) log


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

What makes you think the RF is being transmitted by a computer program?  And how would you think said RF would get to an antenna?

APRSISCE/32 runs on the PC and sends a packet via RS-232 (mostly) to a TNC which converts that packet to AX.25 format (unless it is a KISS interface) for transmission over the air.  The AX.25 packet has bit-stuffing added, and is the converted, still in the TNC, to audio tones which are sent, along with the PTT signal (although some TNC->Radio connections use VOX) to the Radio which contains the actual modulator, transmitter, amplifier and connection to the antenna.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 12:18 PM, Robert D. York wrote:
Ok, so the rf is being tx by APRSISCE saving my tnc/trncvr for what?

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


ICOM ID51A DPRS ON MAP

Al Massaro KF5SMH
 

We are attempting to have all of our team members activate their ID51A GPS  and then be able to track them on the map.
As yet we cannot get the position reports to show up on the map, we have tried both the A and G message options.
Anybody try this and if so, how did you get it to work?
Any help appreciated!

AL M 
KF5SMH


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Robert D. York
 

Ok, well done ✅ You have provided information I needed for self identification of my mistake. How much do I owe you?


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 11:13 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Read http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

and check what all it says there.  As well as viewing and enabling both the Transmit trace log and Port(<YourPortName>).

And we will be needing to know what TNC, radio, and port type you have configured in APRSISCE/32 to go further with the diagnosing.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 12:08 PM, Robert D. York wrote:
When I hit transmit my callsign pops up in the vertical log but nothing happens with the tnc and it's radio. No rf.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Rob Giuliano
 

These are a few things that would prevent transmission:
1. TNC interface mode
     APRS clients work best when the TNC is in KISS mode.
     If the clent expects KISS, but the TNC  is not in KISS no TX
     NOTE: typically no RX in this state.

2. Squelch control
     The TNC controls the actual TX when the frequency is clear.
     That is determined by squelch control.
      Most work best using an algorithm that looks for the packet tones.
      Open radio squelch, and on the TNC use CD Tones (or comething like that).
     Here the TNC shows TX, but radio will not activate PTT.

3. Wiring from TNC to radio.
     a) PTT wiring incorrect
          Here the TNC shows TX, but radio will not activate PTT.
     b) Audio wiring incorrect
          Here Radio TX indicated, but no TX audio

4. Wiring from TNC to computer.
     Many of the older TNCs expect hardware flow control when in KISS mode.
     If the TNC expects hardware flow control, but the computer is not using it,
     the computer won't prooerly send the data to the TNC.  no TX.

Some things to look for.
Rob Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 12:09, Robert D. York
<kf4ffn@...> wrote:
When I hit transmit my callsign pops up in the vertical log but nothing happens with the tnc and it's radio. No rf.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Robert D. York
 

Ok, so the rf is being tx by APRSISCE saving my tnc/trncvr for what?


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Read http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

and check what all it says there.  As well as viewing and enabling both the Transmit trace log and Port(<YourPortName>).

And we will be needing to know what TNC, radio, and port type you have configured in APRSISCE/32 to go further with the diagnosing.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 12:08 PM, Robert D. York wrote:
When I hit transmit my callsign pops up in the vertical log but nothing happens with the tnc and it's radio. No rf.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Robert D. York
 

When I hit transmit my callsign pops up in the vertical log but nothing happens with the tnc and it's radio. No rf.


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 10:49 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: Rd transmission from my transceiver

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

When APRSISCE/32 transmits, of course!  Open and enable the Transmit trace log and then hit the Transmit menu option.

Maybe also read: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/14/2021 11:34 AM, Robert D. York wrote:
When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Rd transmission from my transceiver

Robert D. York
 

When should I see transmission indication on my tnc and txcvr while on APRSISCE?


Re: [EXT] [APRSISCE] KPC-3

Kevin Reeve
 

With a cable from these guys,

 

https://hammadeparts.com/shop-for-cables/ols/categories/amateur-radio-tnc-cables

 

Or build your own.

 

Kevin

 

 

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Date: Monday, June 14, 2021 at 9:11 AM
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Subject: [EXT] [APRSISCE] KPC-3

 

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