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Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
 

AHH Thank you. I have putty somewhere but didn't think that would just let me use it as a terminal program without connecting to some other process or connection via tcpip


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From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 9:19:39PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Windows had HyperTerminal.  TeraTerm has always been a separate application.

The most popular applications for Windows 10 appear to be:
3. PuTTY or KiTTY https://www.fosshub.com/KiTTY.html (my preference over PuTTY)
4. Termite
    Although I don't think it will send control sequemces like ^C for break very easily.

There are many more, but these seem to be popular.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 9:09:57 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I was wanting something to use as a terminal program. Tera term disappeared from windows machines a long time ago. Is it available to be downloaded from somewhere? Thats why I mentioned a terminal window in APRSICE. Other programs like YAAC and maybe xastir have that function.

I haven't found how to make KISS port work. Keep getting errors and missing expected response lines in the logging windows as the connection process tries to open the port with the tnc,

Is there info on the APRSICE wiki relating to this?

Chris

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From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 6:16:05PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

The easiest way to connect a KPC3 to APRSIS32 is to:
1. Place the KPC3 in KISS mode using:
      a) Terminal program (TeraTerm, etc.) and enter the commands at the KPC3 prompt
      b) Use the exe files posted some time back
2. use a Simply(KISS) port
    NOTE: My experience is that the KPC3 in KISS mode expects hardware flow control.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:57:13 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Thanks everyone for their input. Lynn, I am trying all the options to open a port that the kpc3 might like. So far no joy. Your program only has so many options. If you had an option for the kantronics tnc's I would like to see it. That would be the port label then. Randy, I don't know where to look for the TNC command set. I looked at the xml file and didn't see anything like that. Sorry.  Robert, menu configure scroller has all checked. Menu view all is checked. Screenshot attached for other questions you had. Thanks again all

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From: "Lynn Deffenbaugh"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:43:16PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

If this is a 710 packet port, why did you call your RF port KPC3+?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/3/2021 5:28 PM, Christopher Rose wrote:
710 pkt port

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From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

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From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

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From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob Giuliano
 

Windows had HyperTerminal.  TeraTerm has always been a separate application.

The most popular applications for Windows 10 appear to be:
3. PuTTY or KiTTY https://www.fosshub.com/KiTTY.html (my preference over PuTTY)
4. Termite
    Although I don't think it will send control sequemces like ^C for break very easily.

There are many more, but these seem to be popular.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 9:09:57 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I was wanting something to use as a terminal program. Tera term disappeared from windows machines a long time ago. Is it available to be downloaded from somewhere? Thats why I mentioned a terminal window in APRSICE. Other programs like YAAC and maybe xastir have that function.

I haven't found how to make KISS port work. Keep getting errors and missing expected response lines in the logging windows as the connection process tries to open the port with the tnc,

Is there info on the APRSICE wiki relating to this?

Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 6:16:05PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

The easiest way to connect a KPC3 to APRSIS32 is to:
1. Place the KPC3 in KISS mode using:
      a) Terminal program (TeraTerm, etc.) and enter the commands at the KPC3 prompt
      b) Use the exe files posted some time back
2. use a Simply(KISS) port
    NOTE: My experience is that the KPC3 in KISS mode expects hardware flow control.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:57:13 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Thanks everyone for their input. Lynn, I am trying all the options to open a port that the kpc3 might like. So far no joy. Your program only has so many options. If you had an option for the kantronics tnc's I would like to see it. That would be the port label then. Randy, I don't know where to look for the TNC command set. I looked at the xml file and didn't see anything like that. Sorry.  Robert, menu configure scroller has all checked. Menu view all is checked. Screenshot attached for other questions you had. Thanks again all

-----------------------------------------

From: "Lynn Deffenbaugh"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:43:16PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

If this is a 710 packet port, why did you call your RF port KPC3+?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/3/2021 5:28 PM, Christopher Rose wrote:
710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
 

I will respond tomorrow(Friday). Not in my shack now. Thank you


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From: "Lynn Deffenbaugh"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 7:02:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

So, please tell me explicitly and in detail what you are connected to right now.  And I'll help you get it working properly. 

The reason you are NOT seeing stations on the map is definitely due to that <UI> that is prefixing every single packet.  They are being interpreted as position-less status packets according to the aprs101.pdf specification.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/3/2021 5:56 PM, Christopher Rose wrote:
Thanks everyone for their input. Lynn, I am trying all the options to open a port that the kpc3 might like. So far no joy. Your program only has so many options. If you had an option for the kantronics tnc's I would like to see it. That would be the port label then. Randy, I don't know where to look for the TNC command set. I looked at the xml file and didn't see anything like that. Sorry.  Robert, menu configure scroller has all checked. Menu view all is checked. Screenshot attached for other questions you had. Thanks again all

-----------------------------------------

From: "Lynn Deffenbaugh"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:43:16PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

If this is a 710 packet port, why did you call your RF port KPC3+?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/3/2021 5:28 PM, Christopher Rose wrote:
710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
 

OK, will look at this setting

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From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 6:21:19PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

If you have
   >Enables >Internet Access UNCHECKED   and close the program (not full screen)
     it should save the settings for next time.
     This will prevent maps from downloading as well.
If you only want to disable sending and receiving APRS info:
   >Enables >APRSIS Enabled unchecked

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 6:16:08 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I wish the program didn't automatically open an internet connection on start up. Also a terminal window to communicate with the tnc would be a huge help. Just some suggestions here.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:56:34PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

He is "receive only" and is receiving stations from the radio.
The radio is feeding him data because things are showing in the scroller and that is the only interface enabled.

The reason the stations don't show on a map is they are not reporting a position (BLACK scroller text) and so, are off the coast of Africa (0,0).  These could be 3rd party packets that are being fed onto RF, but they don't have position  reports that APRSIS32 is decoding. 


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:42:09 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


Kiss wouldn't have <<UI>> in front of all his posits.

I'm thinking he's in regular interface, I could be wrong.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:36 PM Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> wrote:
I think your only issue is RF traffic.
   All the stations in your scroller are in BLACK - no position known for the station.

If/when you see stations in your scroller with either RED or YELLOW text, you should see them on the map.
   For stations in GREEN text, you may have to zoom out further.  You may see a station on your map in MN (from your original attached screen shot).

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:29:09 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
 

I was wanting something to use as a terminal program. Tera term disappeared from windows machines a long time ago. Is it available to be downloaded from somewhere? Thats why I mentioned a terminal window in APRSICE. Other programs like YAAC and maybe xastir have that function.

I haven't found how to make KISS port work. Keep getting errors and missing expected response lines in the logging windows as the connection process tries to open the port with the tnc,

Is there info on the APRSICE wiki relating to this?

Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 6:16:05PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

The easiest way to connect a KPC3 to APRSIS32 is to:
1. Place the KPC3 in KISS mode using:
      a) Terminal program (TeraTerm, etc.) and enter the commands at the KPC3 prompt
      b) Use the exe files posted some time back
2. use a Simply(KISS) port
    NOTE: My experience is that the KPC3 in KISS mode expects hardware flow control.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:57:13 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Thanks everyone for their input. Lynn, I am trying all the options to open a port that the kpc3 might like. So far no joy. Your program only has so many options. If you had an option for the kantronics tnc's I would like to see it. That would be the port label then. Randy, I don't know where to look for the TNC command set. I looked at the xml file and didn't see anything like that. Sorry.  Robert, menu configure scroller has all checked. Menu view all is checked. Screenshot attached for other questions you had. Thanks again all

-----------------------------------------

From: "Lynn Deffenbaugh"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:43:16PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

If this is a 710 packet port, why did you call your RF port KPC3+?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/3/2021 5:28 PM, Christopher Rose wrote:
710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

So, please tell me explicitly and in detail what you are connected to right now.  And I'll help you get it working properly. 

The reason you are NOT seeing stations on the map is definitely due to that <UI> that is prefixing every single packet.  They are being interpreted as position-less status packets according to the aprs101.pdf specification.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/3/2021 5:56 PM, Christopher Rose wrote:
Thanks everyone for their input. Lynn, I am trying all the options to open a port that the kpc3 might like. So far no joy. Your program only has so many options. If you had an option for the kantronics tnc's I would like to see it. That would be the port label then. Randy, I don't know where to look for the TNC command set. I looked at the xml file and didn't see anything like that. Sorry.  Robert, menu configure scroller has all checked. Menu view all is checked. Screenshot attached for other questions you had. Thanks again all

-----------------------------------------

From: "Lynn Deffenbaugh"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:43:16PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

If this is a 710 packet port, why did you call your RF port KPC3+?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/3/2021 5:28 PM, Christopher Rose wrote:
710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob Giuliano
 

If you have
   >Enables >Internet Access UNCHECKED   and close the program (not full screen)
     it should save the settings for next time.
     This will prevent maps from downloading as well.
If you only want to disable sending and receiving APRS info:
   >Enables >APRSIS Enabled unchecked

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 6:16:08 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I wish the program didn't automatically open an internet connection on start up. Also a terminal window to communicate with the tnc would be a huge help. Just some suggestions here.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:56:34PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

He is "receive only" and is receiving stations from the radio.
The radio is feeding him data because things are showing in the scroller and that is the only interface enabled.

The reason the stations don't show on a map is they are not reporting a position (BLACK scroller text) and so, are off the coast of Africa (0,0).  These could be 3rd party packets that are being fed onto RF, but they don't have position  reports that APRSIS32 is decoding. 


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:42:09 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


Kiss wouldn't have <<UI>> in front of all his posits.

I'm thinking he's in regular interface, I could be wrong.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:36 PM Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> wrote:
I think your only issue is RF traffic.
   All the stations in your scroller are in BLACK - no position known for the station.

If/when you see stations in your scroller with either RED or YELLOW text, you should see them on the map.
   For stations in GREEN text, you may have to zoom out further.  You may see a station on your map in MN (from your original attached screen shot).

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:29:09 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
 

I wish the program didn't automatically open an internet connection on start up. Also a terminal window to communicate with the tnc would be a huge help. Just some suggestions here.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:56:34PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

He is "receive only" and is receiving stations from the radio.
The radio is feeding him data because things are showing in the scroller and that is the only interface enabled.

The reason the stations don't show on a map is they are not reporting a position (BLACK scroller text) and so, are off the coast of Africa (0,0).  These could be 3rd party packets that are being fed onto RF, but they don't have position  reports that APRSIS32 is decoding. 


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:42:09 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


Kiss wouldn't have <<UI>> in front of all his posits.

I'm thinking he's in regular interface, I could be wrong.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:36 PM Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> wrote:
I think your only issue is RF traffic.
   All the stations in your scroller are in BLACK - no position known for the station.

If/when you see stations in your scroller with either RED or YELLOW text, you should see them on the map.
   For stations in GREEN text, you may have to zoom out further.  You may see a station on your map in MN (from your original attached screen shot).

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:29:09 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob Giuliano
 

The easiest way to connect a KPC3 to APRSIS32 is to:
1. Place the KPC3 in KISS mode using:
      a) Terminal program (TeraTerm, etc.) and enter the commands at the KPC3 prompt
      b) Use the exe files posted some time back
2. use a Simply(KISS) port
    NOTE: My experience is that the KPC3 in KISS mode expects hardware flow control.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:57:13 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Thanks everyone for their input. Lynn, I am trying all the options to open a port that the kpc3 might like. So far no joy. Your program only has so many options. If you had an option for the kantronics tnc's I would like to see it. That would be the port label then. Randy, I don't know where to look for the TNC command set. I looked at the xml file and didn't see anything like that. Sorry.  Robert, menu configure scroller has all checked. Menu view all is checked. Screenshot attached for other questions you had. Thanks again all

-----------------------------------------

From: "Lynn Deffenbaugh"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:43:16PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

If this is a 710 packet port, why did you call your RF port KPC3+?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/3/2021 5:28 PM, Christopher Rose wrote:
710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
 

Thanks everyone for their input. Lynn, I am trying all the options to open a port that the kpc3 might like. So far no joy. Your program only has so many options. If you had an option for the kantronics tnc's I would like to see it. That would be the port label then. Randy, I don't know where to look for the TNC command set. I looked at the xml file and didn't see anything like that. Sorry.  Robert, menu configure scroller has all checked. Menu view all is checked. Screenshot attached for other questions you had. Thanks again all

-----------------------------------------

From: "Lynn Deffenbaugh"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:43:16PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

If this is a 710 packet port, why did you call your RF port KPC3+?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/3/2021 5:28 PM, Christopher Rose wrote:
710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob Giuliano
 

He is "receive only" and is receiving stations from the radio.
The radio is feeding him data because things are showing in the scroller and that is the only interface enabled.

The reason the stations don't show on a map is they are not reporting a position (BLACK scroller text) and so, are off the coast of Africa (0,0).  These could be 3rd party packets that are being fed onto RF, but they don't have position  reports that APRSIS32 is decoding. 


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:42:09 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


Kiss wouldn't have <<UI>> in front of all his posits.

I'm thinking he's in regular interface, I could be wrong.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:36 PM Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I think your only issue is RF traffic.
   All the stations in your scroller are in BLACK - no position known for the station.

If/when you see stations in your scroller with either RED or YELLOW text, you should see them on the map.
   For stations in GREEN text, you may have to zoom out further.  You may see a station on your map in MN (from your original attached screen shot).

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:29:09 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

If this is a 710 packet port, why did you call your RF port KPC3+?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 6/3/2021 5:28 PM, Christopher Rose wrote:
710 pkt port

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From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

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From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Randy Love
 

Kiss wouldn't have <<UI>> in front of all his posits.

I'm thinking he's in regular interface, I could be wrong.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:36 PM Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I think your only issue is RF traffic.
   All the stations in your scroller are in BLACK - no position known for the station.

If/when you see stations in your scroller with either RED or YELLOW text, you should see them on the map.
   For stations in GREEN text, you may have to zoom out further.  You may see a station on your map in MN (from your original attached screen shot).

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:29:09 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


710 pkt port

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From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob Giuliano
 

I think your only issue is RF traffic.
   All the stations in your scroller are in BLACK - no position known for the station.

If/when you see stations in your scroller with either RED or YELLOW text, you should see them on the map.
   For stations in GREEN text, you may have to zoom out further.  You may see a station on your map in MN (from your original attached screen shot).

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:29:09 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Greg Depew
 

I would bet something is not right with the TNC, there should not be <<UI>> in every station which i bet you'd find. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:26 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Screenshot here. Need to look at xml file yet

-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:10:41PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
 

710 pkt port

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:25:22PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
 

RX only

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:22:08PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Are you running a receive only station?
You are not hitting any IGATE.

I zoomed in on your area on my APRSIS32 instance and only see a couple stations:
   WB8AIX-B    TCP
   KB8RXT-H1  DMR
   NX8A-3         TCP
   KE8NKO-N    TCP
   K8DAC-BB    TCP

Sorry, I don't see anyone I can point to are RF in your area until you get south to Saginaw and there is an EOC.
West to Big Rapids before I see any RF stations.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO




On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:05 PM EDT, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:


A key is the Scroller color coding:

Text Color

Black : No position known for the station
Red- Yellow- Green - Scaled color based on proximity (Red = close, Green = far)
The scale of this conversion is the circle on the map. If the station is within the circle, the color will vary from Green (outer edge) to Red (dead center) based on how close the station is to the coordinates at the center of the screen.
Reversed Red- Yellow- Green - Scaled as above, but reverse video for callsigns that seem to be in your extra filter as a "buddy" (b/) or "friend" (f/). This may get some false positives until I add explicit Buddy and Friend filter configuration.

The only Green station in your screen shot is at Cedar Rapids, MN

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:40:13 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
 

Screenshot here. Need to look at xml file yet

-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:10:41PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob Giuliano
 

Must be in KISS mode.  Stations have * so heard on RF.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 5:09:39 PM EDT, Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:


What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?


Re: Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
 

I will look. Some stations are showing up in the ocean near Africa.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 5:10:41PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What does the W8KPU station show? The call comes back to Swartz Creek just west of Flint?

Seems you've still got a setting off somewhere. 

Wait.. that's a KPC3+ tnc. I think you might not be in KISS mode. 

What are the <OpenCmds> from your xml file for that port again?

Randy
WF5X 

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:04 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
Do they all have that <<UI>> in front of them? That could be throwing things off. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 17:01 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

They are in the ocean near West Africa

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:56:54PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

What do you mean by position data?



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just restarted to get some data. The stations showing regular icons do have position data attached when I click on them.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Greg Depew"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:44:58PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just guessing from the screenshot. But it looks like it hasn't been running very long. Probably most of the red dots are sitting at 0, 0 off of Africa. Maybe zoom out more and see if you can see anyone else. 



KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Date: 6/3/21 16:40 (GMT-05:00)
To: "'APRSISCE@groups.io'" <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Rob, et al., Hopefully screenshot is attached. Let me know what else you need
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:09:33PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

Just a though:
  If you are still having issues you can rename your APRSIS32.XML to APRSIS32.bak before starting the program.
  You will have to put in your callsign and relocate yourself on the map, but APRSIS32 will create a fresh new XML.
   Clean start!

Afterward, you can use a file compare tool to see what the changes are and maybe determine what caused the issue.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 4:01:21 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


I am on RF, did not want an internet connection.
I zoomed out to see most of my state(MI). Some call signs I recognized should have been in view.
I will look at the settings you have here and respond by tomorrow.

Thank you
Chris

-----------------------------------------

From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io"
To: "APRSISCE@groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 3:50:30PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

There are lots of us out here.
I get my messages directly through email and typically respond the same way.

Looking through this topic and searching Groups.IO for such things as your name (Rose or Christopher Rose) or 'no symbols' did not get a thread that I could shed light on the request.

From memory, I believe you said you had a scroller full of stations, but no symbols on the map.
A few things:
1. Are the stations heard:
    a) RF?
    b) IS?
    c) Both?
2. Is there anything just to the right of the "zoom bar" next to the scroller?
    What are the settings of Menu >View?
3. What are the settings of Menu >Configure >Scroller?
4. Did you scroll out to see if they were outside the map boundaries?
5. Might they all have timed out?
    Is the scroller, scrolling?
6. What is the value in Menu >Configure >Screen >Symbol

Those are the items I can think of that may impact the viewing of symbols on the map.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 3:20:35 PM EDT, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:


Unfortunately the response to the author did not help or my response back elicited no further response. Is any one else here besides us?


-----------------------------------------

From: "Randy Love"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 2:24:51PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller full of stations, no symbols on map

You received two different responses,  one from the author of the program.

Randy
WF5X 


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 2:16 PM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
I asked a few days ago for help, is anyone watching the list?

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