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Re: Decipher please

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Your message target station, KB0NWT is likely a Kenwood radio that has a full emssage buffer which is why your message to him/her was rejected.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 3/15/2021 3:19 PM, Glenn O'Connor wrote:
WinMain:2021-03-15T19:15:44.377 New Chat(KF0ED<>KB0NWT) hwnd(000C087E) Error(0)
WinMain:2021-03-15T19:16:31.970 To(KB0NWT) Msg(If u have a chance, upon a 2m band opening, try our .225 rptr.) ACK
WinMain:2021-03-15T19:16:31.970 To(KB0NWT) HAS Messaging
WinMain:2021-03-15T19:16:31.970 Sending Message For(KB0NWT) by New
WinMain:2021-03-15T19:16:45.388 Priority 5 APRSIS-32>KF0ED:KB0NWT Rejected rejAV} For KB0NWT (AV})


Decipher please

Glenn O'Connor
 

WinMain:2021-03-15T19:15:44.377 New Chat(KF0ED<>KB0NWT) hwnd(000C087E) Error(0)
WinMain:2021-03-15T19:16:31.970 To(KB0NWT) Msg(If u have a chance, upon a 2m band opening, try our .225 rptr.) ACK
WinMain:2021-03-15T19:16:31.970 To(KB0NWT) HAS Messaging
WinMain:2021-03-15T19:16:31.970 Sending Message For(KB0NWT) by New
WinMain:2021-03-15T19:16:45.388 Priority 5 APRSIS-32>KF0ED:KB0NWT Rejected rejAV} For KB0NWT (AV})


Re: DIGI & APRSIS32

Rob Giuliano
 

If you are referring to APRSIS32 acting as the DIGI, you can open the logs for Digi and Digi(NOT).
Any activity that APRSIS32 'hears' and expects to act on will be logged in either of these logs.
  EXAMPLE: If a packet comes into APRSIS32 with all path elements used up, it should show in Digi(NOT) as path used.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Monday, March 15, 2021, 1:47:47 PM EDT, Peter VK3FN <vk3fn@...> wrote:


Hi all,

I just wanted to know how I can see that the program is working correctly as a Digi via the APRSIS32 program.


Re: DIGI & APRSIS32

James Ewen
 

Which program are you trying to observe working as a digi with APRSISCE/32?

To know if this other program is working on RF, you should have APRSISCE/32 setup with an RF interface. When the program you are investigating acts as a digi, you should be able to see the activity in the scroller in APRSISCE/32. 

Don’t try to rely on APRSISCE/32 to observe RF activity if you only have an internet connection. The APRS-IS filters out the vast majority of the packets that are heard on RF. 



On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 11:47 AM Peter VK3FN <vk3fn@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I just wanted to know how I can see that the program is working correctly as a Digi via the APRSIS32 program.

--
James
VE6SRV


DIGI & APRSIS32

Peter VK3FN
 

Hi all,

I just wanted to know how I can see that the program is working correctly as a Digi via the APRSIS32 program.


Re: How long do Telemetry Parameters stay in the configuration

Fred Hillhouse
 

In a recent project, I sent new EQNS packets and eventually got it right. Each time it was sent, they were updated. Now they are there until I change or delete.

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 4:37 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] How long do Telemetry Parameters stay in the configuration

 

Or the callsign-ssid combination sends updates, which I believe can include a meansvto reset the EQNS settings.

 

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 14:05, Fred Hillhouse

<fmhillhouse@...> wrote:

For APRSIS32 it is indefinite unless your XML is deleted.

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 1:07 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: [APRSISCE] How long do Telemetry Parameters stay in the configuration

 

When Telemetry Parameters are received from as station such as EQNS, they go into the configuration file. 

How long will the parameters remain there assuming they aren't refreshed?

 

One of my stations only sends EQNS once a day, but I noticed APRSISCE/32 already had the equation stored.

 

Arnold, KQ6DI

 


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Re: How long do Telemetry Parameters stay in the configuration

Rob Giuliano
 

Or the callsign-ssid combination sends updates, which I believe can include a meansvto reset the EQNS settings.


On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 14:05, Fred Hillhouse
<fmhillhouse@...> wrote:

For APRSIS32 it is indefinite unless your XML is deleted.

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 1:07 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: [APRSISCE] How long do Telemetry Parameters stay in the configuration

 

When Telemetry Parameters are received from as station such as EQNS, they go into the configuration file. 

How long will the parameters remain there assuming they aren't refreshed?

 

One of my stations only sends EQNS once a day, but I noticed APRSISCE/32 already had the equation stored.

 

Arnold, KQ6DI




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Re: How long do Telemetry Parameters stay in the configuration

Fred Hillhouse
 

For APRSIS32 it is indefinite unless your XML is deleted.

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 1:07 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: [APRSISCE] How long do Telemetry Parameters stay in the configuration

 

When Telemetry Parameters are received from as station such as EQNS, they go into the configuration file. 

How long will the parameters remain there assuming they aren't refreshed?

 

One of my stations only sends EQNS once a day, but I noticed APRSISCE/32 already had the equation stored.

 

Arnold, KQ6DI




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How long do Telemetry Parameters stay in the configuration

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

When Telemetry Parameters are received from as station such as EQNS, they go into the configuration file. 
How long will the parameters remain there assuming they aren't refreshed?
 
One of my stations only sends EQNS once a day, but I noticed APRSISCE/32 already had the equation stored.
 
Arnold, KQ6DI


Re: ?APRSP

Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY
 

Hi Lynn,

We all use APRSIS32 clients on 144,800 kHz without filtering and without activating APRS-IS in the Enables menu.

Also none of us are within normal radio range from each other!

We all use our local IGATES to exchange messages and indeed we can see each other's position beacons after we exchange text messages, but after APRSIS32 decides it is time to send a position beacon and only if the beacon is sent in time before the 15 minute window after the last text message expires.

When I send an ?APRSP query to the other stations (SV1GGY-1 and SV1WE-1) they receive it and indeed they send a position beacon out on their RF LAN. This is clear because I check APRS.FI's RAW PACKETS, but of course their position beacons which are sent as a reply to my ?APRS QUERY never make it here in my Local RF LAN.

The position beacons they initiate by their own initiatinve or the ones that are being sent when the position beacon timer expires, are always transmitted on the air by my local APRS IGATE provided they are sent within the 15 minute window APRS-IS allows, i.e. within 15 minutes after the last exchanged APRS TEXT message between us.

I hope it makes sense.

Probably it is not APRSIS32's fault!

So it seems that the ?APRSP QUERY does not work via the IGATES, but all other QUERIES work FB.

Thanks for bearing with me!

Take care!

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network


Re: ?APRSP

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Ok, now I understand what you are expecting and what you are seeing.  And everything is actually WAD.  But first I need to make sure that the station we're talking about is NOT in your normal range, nor matched by your currently active APRS-IS filter terms. If that is in fact the case, then then only packets your APRS-IS server will actually deliver to you are a) messages addressed to you from that station and b) the next position report that the station issues AFTER having sent you a message.

So, the posit after receiving a message makes sense.  And the "missing" posit when sending a ?APRSP also makes sense because the station didn't send YOU a message (or even a response, which is really just another message) before sending the posit.

If you check aprs.fi's raw packets, do you see the posit there that should have been triggered by the ?APRSP?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 2/22/2021 9:49 AM, Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY wrote:
Hi Lynn,

Thanks for reply. ?APRSP is supposed to force the receiving station to transmit a BEACON. This is useful if you want to multitrack.
For me to see the queried station's Position Beacon via an IGATE, I must first send him a message and after I get an ACK, any Position Beacon he sends should appear in my APRSIS32 MULTITRACKing MAP. Now this does not happen if the queried station sends his Position Beacon as reply to my query. It happens if he sends it manually though.

Funny thing an maybe this is not an APRSIS32 problem. I don't know!

Maybe I confused you before. I hope what I am saying now makes more sence!


Re: ?APRSP

Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY
 

Hi Lynn,

Thanks for reply. ?APRSP is supposed to force the receiving station to transmit a BEACON. This is useful if you want to multitrack.
For me to see the queried station's Position Beacon via an IGATE, I must first send him a message and after I get an ACK, any Position Beacon he sends should appear in my APRSIS32 MULTITRACKing MAP. Now this does not happen if the queried station sends his Position Beacon as reply to my query. It happens if he sends it manually though.

Funny thing an maybe this is not an APRSIS32 problem. I don't know!

Maybe I confused you before. I hope what I am saying now makes more sence!

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network


Re: ?APRSP

Greg Depew
 

Haha! I just happened to reread thru some of the emails stating he got responses back for the other queries and realized I didn't know what he expected back. 



KB3KBR Greg.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
Date: 2/21/21 16:15 (GMT-05:00)
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] ?APRSP

Wow, there must have been a wave of insight flow through the ether on that answer!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 2/21/2021 3:50 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
Do you happen to have the station multi tracked? What response are you expecting back? ?APRSP only send a position report. It will not send any messages back. 



KB3KBR Greg.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY <demetre.sv1uy@...>
Date: 2/21/21 15:08 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] ?APRSP

Hi,

Same thing happens when I send ?APRSP to SV1GGY-1, who also uses APRSIS32, but he replies to all other APRS QUERIES I send him!

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network






Re: ?APRSP

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Wow, there must have been a wave of insight flow through the ether on that answer!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 2/21/2021 3:50 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
Do you happen to have the station multi tracked? What response are you expecting back? ?APRSP only send a position report. It will not send any messages back. 



KB3KBR Greg.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY <demetre.sv1uy@...>
Date: 2/21/21 15:08 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] ?APRSP

Hi,

Same thing happens when I send ?APRSP to SV1GGY-1, who also uses APRSIS32, but he replies to all other APRS QUERIES I send him!

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network






Re: ?APRSP

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Wait, this just dawned on me.  ?APRSP does not HAVE a reply!  It is a remote request that the recipient transmit a position report!  So, have you verified that the target station did or did not transmit a position report when ?APRSP is received?

I just verified the source code and the processing of a received ?APRSP simply sets the internal "ForceTransmit" flag just like the Transmit menu option.  So the station will subsequently transmit a position report if it is so configured.  If the receiving station isn't configured for transmitting position reports (for whatever reason), then the remote query shouldn't override those settings.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 2/21/2021 3:08 PM, Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY wrote:
Hi,

Same thing happens when I send ?APRSP to SV1GGY-1, who also uses APRSIS32, but he replies to all other APRS QUERIES I send him!


Re: ?APRSP

Greg Depew
 

Do you happen to have the station multi tracked? What response are you expecting back? ?APRSP only send a position report. It will not send any messages back. 



KB3KBR Greg.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



-------- Original message --------
From: Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY <demetre.sv1uy@...>
Date: 2/21/21 15:08 (GMT-05:00)
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] ?APRSP

Hi,

Same thing happens when I send ?APRSP to SV1GGY-1, who also uses APRSIS32, but he replies to all other APRS QUERIES I send him!

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network






Re: ?APRSP

Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY
 

Hi,

Same thing happens when I send ?APRSP to SV1GGY-1, who also uses APRSIS32, but he replies to all other APRS QUERIES I send him!

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network


Re: ?APRSP

Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY
 

Hi Randy,

I get replies to all my APRS QUERIES to SV1WE-1, all except for the "?APRSP" QUERIES I send him. Of course our link is via IGATES, not direct on RF because I am in the UK and he is in Greece and we are both on 144,800 kHz.

I wonder if this happens because although I contact him on RF my PACKETS can only reach him via my local APRS IGATE to his local APRS IGATE and eventually to him on his local RF. If I send a "?APRSP" QUERY to any other station I can see direct on RF, they always transmit their Position BEACON as a reply to my APRS QUERY.

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network


Re: ?APRSP

Randy Love
 

Capture from APRS.FI of queries 



On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 6:13 AM Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY <demetre.sv1uy@...> wrote:
Sorry guys,

I forgot to give you the SSID. It is SV1WE-1.

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73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network






Re: ?APRSP

Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY
 

Sorry guys,

I forgot to give you the SSID. It is SV1WE-1.

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73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network

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