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Re: ?APRSP
Hi Randy,
I get replies to all my APRS QUERIES to SV1WE-1, all except for the "?APRSP" QUERIES I send him. Of course our link is via IGATES, not direct on RF because I am in the UK and he is in Greece and we are both on 144,800 kHz. I wonder if this happens because although I contact him on RF my PACKETS can only reach him via my local APRS IGATE to his local APRS IGATE and eventually to him on his local RF. If I send a "?APRSP" QUERY to any other station I can see direct on RF, they always transmit their Position BEACON as a reply to my APRS QUERY. -- 73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY APRS: 1st & best Social Network |
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Re: ?APRSP
Randy Love
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On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 6:13 AM Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY <demetre.sv1uy@...> wrote: Sorry guys, 
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Re: ?APRSP
Sorry guys,
I forgot to give you the SSID. It is SV1WE-1. -- 73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY APRS: 1st & best Social Network |
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Re: Connecting APRSIS32 to APRX or DIXPRS
Rob Giuliano
Thanks for the clarification. I was actually thinking that APRX 'listened' and when APRSIS32 tried to connect, it would do so. But as usual, you are correct. Neither does. You can connect from APRX to APRSIS32 through as the APRSIS32 local-server. I have never looked at whether APRX can have more than 1 APRS-IS server configuration. I tried it. I didn't get an error, but it appears it only connects to the first instance. The other WRT54 application I was using at the time was 'ldsped' by ON7LDS It is somewhere between AGW and APRX in that it includes AGW ports for remote connections to TNCs. I think it was a little more difficult to get setup, but that must have been what I used. I think I read there was a version for the Pi. I am not sure if it is still in development, but the page was still active. Robert Giuliano
On Friday, February 19, 2021, 1:22:29 PM EST, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:
APRSISCE/32 does not accept incoming connections from TNCs or
other external devices. APRSISCE/32 expects the device to be
listening for an incoming connection that APRSISCE/32 will
initiate. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 2/19/2021 12:19 PM, Rob Giuliano via
groups.io wrote:
The last time I used APRX was with my WRT54, so it is a bit rusty. First, you want Simply(KISS) in APRSIS32 because you will not need any <OpenCmd> or <ClosseCmd> commands for this port configuration. The other ports (KISS and radio specific) have defined information that is sent to properly initialize the TNC. Your interface is trying to connect to itself (localhost). I am pretty sure you want that interface to connect to APRSIS32. # This port tries to connect to your APRSIS32 application - assumed on another computer. # I am not sure what APRX will do if that application (port) is not open. I assume wait for it. <interface> tcp-device {APRSIS32 IP} 8100 KISS callsign iw2ejh-14 tx-ok true </interface> # This port connects to your TNC2 - assumed already functioning. <interface> serial-device {device settings per APRX manual} callsign iw2ejh-1 {for referencing below, use your current settings} {All your related settings for the TNC2 ??} </interface> # Send all received packets from TNC2 to APRSIS32 <digipeater> transmitter iw2ejh-1 <source> source iw2ejh-14 </source> </digipeater> # Send all received packets (according to the port configuration) from APRSIS32 to TNC2 <digipeater> transmitter iw2ejh-14 <source> source iw2ejh-1 </source> </digipeater> I am pretty sure that was how I had it working on my WRT54. I tried to find copies of my old aprx.conf files from back then, but I am sure they are long gone. |
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Re: ?APRSP
James Ewen
Nice sleuthing. I had a look in the tocalls document and found nothing. Just had a quick poke around the website you listed and can’t find anything that provides useful information about the APRS portion. Looks like it might just be a noise maker that only sends out information and doesn’t actually communicate. The original query made it sound like he was getting responses to some queries. At least that’s how I read the statements made. James On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 1:40 PM Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:
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Re: ?APRSP
Randy Love
And the winner is Pi-STAR hotspots! Randy WF5X
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Re: ?APRSP
Randy Love
The BM TOCALL is APBMxD, so it's not from the Brandmeister network, it's something else... APZDMR isn't in the tocalls.txt on aprs.org Randy WF5X TO-CALLAPBMxx is officially assigned to BrandMeister (http://www.aprs.org/aprs11/tocalls.txt)
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 3:25 PM Randy Love <rlove31@...> wrote:
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Re: ?APRSP
Randy Love
Here is a page that describes it as DMR APRS... but it's not REALLY APRS... Randy WF5X
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Re: ?APRSP
Randy Love
Just a hunch, but I bet that APZDMR is one-way GPS data from DMR devices to APRS... In that case, the person's DMR radio probably doesn't actually support true APRS functionality. Randy WF5X On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 12:06 PM James Ewen <ve6srv@...> wrote:
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Re: Connecting APRSIS32 to APRX or DIXPRS
MARINO MELONI
Rob,
I thought I had to create a port in APRX that was accessible to any Kiss client, that is why I created it with localhost, and I also tried with the IP of APRX host. Now, following your suggestion, I also tested putting the IP address of the APRSIS32 host, but the result is the same, sames errors appear. Lynn, So If I well understand, APRX is not listening on that port what APRSISCE/32 is sending to initiate two way communication. My question to all now is: - Do I well understand that I cannot use APRSISCE/32 to communicate with a remote TNC running as digi and gateway (I know that I can connect it probably using SOCAT or similar, but at that point it will be a one to one connection and it will not gate directly any data) - Do someone know how can I connect remotely from a pc running APRSISCE/32 to a TNC2 connected to a sw that run as digi/igate? I'm pretty sure years ago I did it, unfortunately I cannot remember that I used to reach this result. I hope someone did it and may help. |
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Re: Connecting APRSIS32 to APRX or DIXPRS
Lynn Deffenbaugh
APRSISCE/32 does not accept incoming connections from TNCs or
other external devices. APRSISCE/32 expects the device to be
listening for an incoming connection that APRSISCE/32 will
initiate. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 2/19/2021 12:19 PM, Rob Giuliano via
groups.io wrote:
The last time I used APRX was with my WRT54, so it is a bit rusty. |
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Re: Connecting APRSIS32 to APRX or DIXPRS
Rob Giuliano
The last time I used APRX was with my WRT54, so it is a bit rusty.
First, you want Simply(KISS) in APRSIS32 because you will not need any <OpenCmd> or <ClosseCmd> commands for this port configuration. The other ports (KISS and radio specific) have defined information that is sent to properly initialize the TNC. Your interface is trying to connect to itself (localhost). I am pretty sure you want that interface to connect to APRSIS32. # This port tries to connect to your APRSIS32 application - assumed on another computer. # I am not sure what APRX will do if that application (port) is not open. I assume wait for it. <interface> tcp-device {APRSIS32 IP} 8100 KISS callsign iw2ejh-14 tx-ok true </interface> # This port connects to your TNC2 - assumed already functioning. <interface> serial-device {device settings per APRX manual} callsign iw2ejh-1 {for referencing below, use your current settings} {All your related settings for the TNC2 ??} </interface> # Send all received packets from TNC2 to APRSIS32 <digipeater> transmitter iw2ejh-1 <source> source iw2ejh-14 </source> </digipeater> # Send all received packets (according to the port configuration) from APRSIS32 to TNC2 <digipeater> transmitter iw2ejh-14 <source> source iw2ejh-1 </source> </digipeater> I am pretty sure that was how I had it working on my WRT54. I tried to find copies of my old aprx.conf files from back then, but I am sure they are long gone. |
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Re: ?APRSP
James Ewen
SV1WE does not appear to be running APRSISCE/32. 2021-02-18 16:05:50 MST: SV1WE>APZDMR,QTH*,TCPIP*,qAU,SIXTH:)SV1WE-DP!3749.10N/02348.97ErRNG0034 IPSC2-GR-DMO MMDVM 431.0500 MHz APRSISCE/32 uses a tocall of APWW11 as seen in Lynn's packet. You asked: "Does ?APRSP QUERY work in APRSIS32 please?" The answer is yes, it does work. APRSISCE/32 can send the query, and it can respond to the query. The question you need answered is does the application that IDs as APZDMR in the tocall respond to ?APRSP? It seems that you know the answer to this question... No response means no it doesn't. James VE6SRV On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 8:57 AM Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY <demetre.sv1uy@...> wrote: Thanks Lynn, |
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Re: Connecting APRSIS32 to APRX or DIXPRS
MARINO MELONI
Thanks Robert for reviewing my question.
I want to configure APRX using the second option. basically I would like aprx to be used like direwolf, presenting two host ports for remote connection (and yes, actually I am connected to direwolf with that method, but what I need is to connect to the TNC2 that is interconnect with aprx.) I did some test, configuring aprx as below and creating a simplykiss port in aprsis32 (I also tested a pure kiss port but similar results) and there is no connection betweem the two ports. It seems aprx is not creating a port in host mode, and aprsis32 get no answers to it requests aprx.conf # my test with aprsis32 I/O port <interface> tcp-device localhost 8100 KISS callsign iw2ejh-14 tx-ok true </interface> APRX error log socket connect() preparing: tcp!192.168.1.71!4100! 2021-02-19 11:08:31.531 TTY tcp!192.168.1.71!4100! EOF - CLOSED, WAITING 30 SECS APRSIS32 port log Port(__aprx__kiss):2021-02-19T12:38:09.415 Restarting Reader... Port(__aprx__kiss):2021-02-19T12:38:09.415 TcpReader Running on @192.168.1.71 or 192.168.1.71:4100 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds) Port(__aprx__kiss):2021-02-19T12:38:11.420 connect errno 10061 Port(__aprx__kiss):2021-02-19T12:38:11.420 connect(@192.168.1.71) Failed Port(__aprx__kiss):2021-02-19T12:38:11.420 Delaying Restart for 17994/20000 msec |
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Re: Connecting APRSIS32 to APRX or DIXPRS
Rob Giuliano
I haven't seen a reply yet, so I'll give it a shot. I am not familiar with DIXPRS, but APRX will interface with APRSIS32 through either an AGW port or KISS over TCP port. They key is for each application to have a single device (TNC) attached to it. OPTION 1: If APRSIS32 will be available all the time and have internet access, you can set APRSIS32 as a 'local APRS Server" and have APRX and/or DIXPRS connect to them as if APRSIS32 is just like noam.aprs2.net. APRSIS32 would then forward the infomration to its APRS-IS server and all should work - as long as APRSIS32 is running and has access to both sides. OPTION 2: Configure each as a KISS/TCP port >>> For APRX it is something like: <interface> tcp-device {IP and port of the APRSIS32 configuration} callsign {call}-{ssid} tx-ok true </interface> Then in APRSIS32 configure a Simply(KISS) port set over TCP and point to the IP of this device. >>> For Direwolf -> uncomment one or both of the interfaces: AGWPORT 8000 KISSPORT 8001 Then in APRSIS32 configure a Simply(KISS) port set over TCP and point to the IP of this device, or an AGW port withe IP and port of this device >>> For DIXPRS -> couldn't find any info on KISS over TCP. I didn't see infomration on configuring either KISS over TCP or AGW. I hope this helps. Robert Giuliano
On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 9:07:00 AM EST, MARINO MELONI via groups.io <iw2ejh@...> wrote:
Good day to all In the past I use to run APRSIS32 24/7 on an old laptop and I interfaced it with several TNC, virtual (Direwolf) and real (TNC2) everything was configured along the years and was running fine. Several years ago, after the laptop died, I replaced everything with a couple of Raspberry pi. Actually I'm running APRX and DIXPRS on these, with actually two ports, one connected to Direwolf, and one using the TNC2 in Kiss mode. My goal now is to use aprsis32 from my laptop in another room to connect remotely to one of these two programs in order to be able to have access to the APRS network. I know in the past I was able to run several different computers around my house and was able di interconnect everything, sending/receiving messages from every pc, but now after several years, I do not remember if I had to configure in a particular way APRX, or DIXPRS or if I installed another software to share the TNC access between several devices around the house. (I'm getting old, and I'm loosing memory). I tried to search in the group, but I didn't found a clear answer how to reach the goal. I hope someone can help me to connect aprsis32 via TCP/IP one of my TNC via some of the software I'm running. Thanks IW2EJH Marino |
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Connecting APRSIS32 to APRX or DIXPRS
MARINO MELONI
Good day to all
In the past I use to run APRSIS32 24/7 on an old laptop and I interfaced it with several TNC, virtual (Direwolf) and real (TNC2) everything was configured along the years and was running fine. Several years ago, after the laptop died, I replaced everything with a couple of Raspberry pi. Actually I'm running APRX and DIXPRS on these, with actually two ports, one connected to Direwolf, and one using the TNC2 in Kiss mode. My goal now is to use aprsis32 from my laptop in another room to connect remotely to one of these two programs in order to be able to have access to the APRS network. I know in the past I was able to run several different computers around my house and was able di interconnect everything, sending/receiving messages from every pc, but now after several years, I do not remember if I had to configure in a particular way APRX, or DIXPRS or if I installed another software to share the TNC access between several devices around the house. (I'm getting old, and I'm loosing memory). I tried to search in the group, but I didn't found a clear answer how to reach the goal. I hope someone can help me to connect aprsis32 via TCP/IP one of my TNC via some of the software I'm running. Thanks IW2EJH Marino |
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Re: ?APRSP
Thanks Lynn,
It seems that when I send ?APRSP to a station I can hear on RF, then I get a reply to my QUERY. When I send a Directed QUERY to RF addressed to a station I cannot hear directly and it has to go via an IGATE-Internet-IGATE and back to his local RF, as in the case of SV1WE who is in Athens-GR and I am in Gateshead-UK, then he does not reply to it! He does reply to most other QUERIES though. I tested ?DX, ?VER, ?APRSD, ?APRSH etc. All other DIRECTED QUERIES work immediately, but ?APRSP, work fine. This is what puzzles me! -- 73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY APRS: 1st & best Social Network |
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Re: ?APRSP
Lynn Deffenbaugh
?APRSP does work and is acted on when received in an APRS message by an APRSIS32 instance. However, IIRC the original specification of that query was not as an APRS message, but as a non-directed query packet. APRSIS32 does not support sending such queries because I didn't want to risk flooding the channel with the responses. Just re-checked aprs101.pdf and there are "General" and "Directed" queries. APRSIS32 only supports "Directed" queries which are the payload of an APRS message packet. And my memory was worng (sic) on the ?APRSP as it is documented only as a directed query. On 2/17/2021 6:05 AM, Adam Mahnke
wrote:
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Re: ?APRSP
Adam Mahnke <kc2ant@...>
It appears to be working fine on my home station.
What station are you trying to get to send a position that it isn't working?
Adam
KC2ANT
Sent from my LG V40 ThinQ, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
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From: Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY
Date: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 05:29
To: APRSISCE@groups.io;
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Subject:[APRSISCE] ?APRSP
Hi all,
Does ?APRSP QUERY work in APRSIS32 please? It is supposed to work when you select MULTITTRACK also, but since no station replies to ?APRSP I wonder if the receiving station has to activate something in the menus. I use the latest development version and all my friends who I send the ?APRSP queries also use the development version. All other QUERIES work fine for us. ?APRSP does not seem to do anything. Any ideas? -- 73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY APRS: 1st & best Social Network |
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?APRSP
Hi all,
Does ?APRSP QUERY work in APRSIS32 please? It is supposed to work when you select MULTITTRACK also, but since no station replies to ?APRSP I wonder if the receiving station has to activate something in the menus. I use the latest development version and all my friends who I send the ?APRSP queries also use the development version. All other QUERIES work fine for us. ?APRSP does not seem to do anything. Any ideas? -- 73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY APRS: 1st & best Social Network |
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