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Re: ?APRSP

James Ewen
 

SV1WE does not appear to be running APRSISCE/32.

2021-02-18 16:05:50 MST: SV1WE>APZDMR,QTH*,TCPIP*,qAU,SIXTH:)SV1WE-DP!3749.10N/02348.97ErRNG0034 IPSC2-GR-DMO MMDVM 431.0500 MHz 

APRSISCE/32 uses a tocall of APWW11 as seen in Lynn's packet.

 KJ4ERJ>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:@165022h2759.79N/08039.53WlFull Feed Monitor!wwu!Ej.

You asked:

"Does ?APRSP QUERY work in APRSIS32 please?"

The answer is yes, it does work. APRSISCE/32 can send the query, and it can respond to the query. The question you need answered is does the application that IDs as APZDMR in the tocall respond to ?APRSP?

It seems that you know the answer to this question... No response means no it doesn't.

James
VE6SRV


On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 8:57 AM Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY <demetre.sv1uy@...> wrote:
Thanks Lynn,

It seems that when I send ?APRSP to a station I can hear on RF, then I get a reply to my QUERY.

When I send a Directed QUERY to RF addressed to a station I cannot hear directly and it has to go via an IGATE-Internet-IGATE and back to his local RF, as in the case of SV1WE who is in Athens-GR and I am in Gateshead-UK, then he does not reply to it! He does reply to most other QUERIES though. I tested ?DX, ?VER, ?APRSD, ?APRSH etc.

All other DIRECTED QUERIES work immediately, but ?APRSP, work fine. This is what puzzles me!

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network






Re: Connecting APRSIS32 to APRX or DIXPRS

MARINO MELONI
 

Thanks Robert for reviewing my question.

I want to configure APRX using the second option. basically I would like aprx to be used like direwolf, presenting two host ports for remote connection (and yes, actually I am connected to direwolf with that method, but what I need is to connect to the TNC2 that is interconnect with aprx.)
I did some test, configuring aprx as below and creating a simplykiss port in aprsis32 (I also tested a pure kiss port but similar results) and there is no connection betweem the two ports. It seems aprx is not creating a port in host mode, and aprsis32 get no answers to it requests

aprx.conf

# my test with aprsis32 I/O port
<interface>
      tcp-device   localhost 8100    KISS
      callsign     iw2ejh-14
      tx-ok true
</interface>



APRX error log

socket connect() preparing: tcp!192.168.1.71!4100!
2021-02-19 11:08:31.531 TTY tcp!192.168.1.71!4100! EOF - CLOSED, WAITING 30 SECS

APRSIS32 port log

Port(__aprx__kiss):2021-02-19T12:38:09.415 Restarting Reader...
Port(__aprx__kiss):2021-02-19T12:38:09.415 TcpReader Running on @192.168.1.71 or 192.168.1.71:4100 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(__aprx__kiss):2021-02-19T12:38:11.420 connect errno 10061
Port(__aprx__kiss):2021-02-19T12:38:11.420 connect(@192.168.1.71) Failed
Port(__aprx__kiss):2021-02-19T12:38:11.420 Delaying Restart for 17994/20000 msec


Re: Connecting APRSIS32 to APRX or DIXPRS

Rob Giuliano
 

I haven't seen a reply yet, so I'll give it a shot.

I am not familiar with DIXPRS, but APRX will interface with APRSIS32 through either an AGW port or KISS over TCP port.  They key is for each application to have a single device (TNC) attached to it.

OPTION 1:
If APRSIS32 will be available all the time and have internet access, you can set APRSIS32 as a 'local APRS Server" and have APRX and/or DIXPRS connect to them as if APRSIS32 is just like noam.aprs2.net.  APRSIS32 would then forward the infomration to its APRS-IS server and all should work - as long as APRSIS32 is running and has access to both sides.

OPTION 2:
Configure each as a KISS/TCP port

>>> For APRX it is something like:
   <interface>
      tcp-device    {IP and port of the APRSIS32 configuration}
       callsign        {call}-{ssid}
       tx-ok            true
   </interface>
Then in APRSIS32 configure a Simply(KISS) port set over TCP and point to the IP of this device.


>>> For Direwolf -> uncomment one or both of the interfaces:
        AGWPORT 8000
        KISSPORT 8001
Then in APRSIS32 configure a Simply(KISS) port set over TCP and point to the IP of this device, or an AGW port withe IP and port of this device


>>> For DIXPRS -> couldn't find any info on KISS over TCP.
I didn't see infomration on configuring either KISS over TCP or AGW.


 I hope this helps.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 9:07:00 AM EST, MARINO MELONI via groups.io <iw2ejh@...> wrote:


Good day to all

In the past I use to run APRSIS32 24/7 on an old laptop and I interfaced it with several TNC, virtual (Direwolf) and real (TNC2) everything was configured along the years and was running fine. Several years ago, after the laptop died, I replaced everything with a couple of Raspberry pi. Actually I'm running APRX and DIXPRS on these, with actually two ports, one connected to Direwolf, and one using the TNC2 in Kiss mode.
My goal now is to use aprsis32 from my laptop in another room to connect remotely to one of these two programs in order to be able to have access to the APRS network.
I know in the past I was able to run several different computers around my house and was able di interconnect everything, sending/receiving messages from every pc, but now after several years, I do not remember if I had to configure in a particular way APRX, or DIXPRS or if I installed another software to share the TNC access between several devices around the house. (I'm getting old, and I'm loosing memory).  
I tried to search in the group, but I didn't found a clear answer how to reach the goal.
I hope someone can help me to connect aprsis32  via TCP/IP one of my TNC via some of the software I'm running.
Thanks
IW2EJH
Marino


Connecting APRSIS32 to APRX or DIXPRS

MARINO MELONI
 

Good day to all

In the past I use to run APRSIS32 24/7 on an old laptop and I interfaced it with several TNC, virtual (Direwolf) and real (TNC2) everything was configured along the years and was running fine. Several years ago, after the laptop died, I replaced everything with a couple of Raspberry pi. Actually I'm running APRX and DIXPRS on these, with actually two ports, one connected to Direwolf, and one using the TNC2 in Kiss mode.
My goal now is to use aprsis32 from my laptop in another room to connect remotely to one of these two programs in order to be able to have access to the APRS network.
I know in the past I was able to run several different computers around my house and was able di interconnect everything, sending/receiving messages from every pc, but now after several years, I do not remember if I had to configure in a particular way APRX, or DIXPRS or if I installed another software to share the TNC access between several devices around the house. (I'm getting old, and I'm loosing memory).  
I tried to search in the group, but I didn't found a clear answer how to reach the goal.
I hope someone can help me to connect aprsis32  via TCP/IP one of my TNC via some of the software I'm running.
Thanks
IW2EJH
Marino


Re: ?APRSP

Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY
 

Thanks Lynn,

It seems that when I send ?APRSP to a station I can hear on RF, then I get a reply to my QUERY.

When I send a Directed QUERY to RF addressed to a station I cannot hear directly and it has to go via an IGATE-Internet-IGATE and back to his local RF, as in the case of SV1WE who is in Athens-GR and I am in Gateshead-UK, then he does not reply to it! He does reply to most other QUERIES though. I tested ?DX, ?VER, ?APRSD, ?APRSH etc.

All other DIRECTED QUERIES work immediately, but ?APRSP, work fine. This is what puzzles me!

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network


Re: ?APRSP

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

?APRSP does work and is acted on when received in an APRS message by an APRSIS32 instance.  However, IIRC the original specification of that query was not as an APRS message, but as a non-directed query packet.  APRSIS32 does not support sending such queries because I didn't want to risk flooding the channel with the responses.

Just re-checked aprs101.pdf and there are "General" and "Directed" queries.  APRSIS32 only supports "Directed" queries which are the payload of an APRS message packet.  And my memory was worng (sic) on the ?APRSP as it is documented only as a directed query.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 2/17/2021 6:05 AM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
It appears to be working fine on my home station.

What station are you trying to get to send a position that it isn't working?

Adam
KC2ANT

Sent from my LG V40 ThinQ, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone

------ Original message------
From: Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY
Date: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 05:29
Cc:
Subject:[APRSISCE] ?APRSP

Hi all,

Does ?APRSP QUERY work in APRSIS32 please? It is supposed to work when you select MULTITTRACK also, but since no station replies to ?APRSP I wonder if the receiving station has to activate something in the menus.
I use the latest development version and all my friends who I send the ?APRSP queries also use the development version.
All other QUERIES work fine for us. ?APRSP does not seem to do anything.
Any ideas?

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network






Re: ?APRSP

Adam Mahnke <kc2ant@...>
 

It appears to be working fine on my home station.

What station are you trying to get to send a position that it isn't working?

Adam
KC2ANT

Sent from my LG V40 ThinQ, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone

------ Original message------
From: Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY
Date: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 05:29
To: APRSISCE@groups.io;
Cc:
Subject:[APRSISCE] ?APRSP

Hi all,

Does ?APRSP QUERY work in APRSIS32 please? It is supposed to work when you select MULTITTRACK also, but since no station replies to ?APRSP I wonder if the receiving station has to activate something in the menus.
I use the latest development version and all my friends who I send the ?APRSP queries also use the development version.
All other QUERIES work fine for us. ?APRSP does not seem to do anything.
Any ideas?

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network






?APRSP

Demetre - M0SUY/SV1UY
 

Hi all,

Does ?APRSP QUERY work in APRSIS32 please? It is supposed to work when you select MULTITTRACK also, but since no station replies to ?APRSP I wonder if the receiving station has to activate something in the menus.
I use the latest development version and all my friends who I send the ?APRSP queries also use the development version.
All other QUERIES work fine for us. ?APRSP does not seem to do anything.
Any ideas?

--
73 de Demetre M0SUY/SV1UY
APRS: 1st & best Social Network


Re: full screen startup

James Ewen
 

There’s something wonky about Windows that Lynn says doesn’t support opening in full screen mode. 

I have never figured out what it is, but APRS-IS has to be windowed to be able to save its configuration. That means when you save the config, it’s not full screen, which means when it opens again, you come up windowed. 

Every other Windows program seems to work differently, but Lynn has said over and over again it has to be in a less than full screen mode. 

Drag your window to almost full screen and you’re close. Or, click on the full screen button after a start. 

James
VE6SRV 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 3:19 PM Steve Black via groups.io <kb1chu=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
My copy of APRSIS opens with a partial screen. I would prefer it to open
in fullscreen mode if possible. I guess its in the config XML file but I
need a refresher as I can't find it. Thanks Steve kb1chu






--
James
VE6SRV


full screen startup

Steve Black
 

My copy of APRSIS opens with a partial screen. I would prefer it to open in fullscreen mode if possible. I guess its in the config XML file but I need a refresher as I can't find it. Thanks Steve kb1chu


Re: No Map

Rob Giuliano
 

Did you leave the -1 at the end of the passcode as you indicate below?  You need to delete that.

However, the gray screen is more like fixed by Lynn's and/or Fred's suggestion.


On 2/15/2021 3:54 PM, More Pi wrote:
I realize this topic has been beat to death, but no map. Gray screen only. No map displays. I have an internet connection. I have downloaded and installed APRSIS software  Windows 32 for Windows 10 operating system. My computer is not hooked up to my radio. Watched First Use video. I have a passcode. I entered my Passcode xxxxx-1. I created an icon. I entered my callsign. I made no other changes or additions to the opening screen. On occasion I get a longitude latitude grid. No Map


Re: No Map

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Are you sure you created a new directory and unzipped the download into that new directory and then double-clicked the APRSIS32.EXE from there.  The symptom you are describing happens when you double-click the .EXE from directly in a .ZIP viewer instead of unzipping and executing the unzipped copy.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 2/15/2021 3:54 PM, More Pi wrote:
I realize this topic has been beat to death, but no map. Gray screen only. No map displays. I have an internet connection. I have downloaded and installed APRSIS software  Windows 32 for Windows 10 operating system. My computer is not hooked up to my radio. Watched First Use video. I have a passcode. I entered my Passcode xxxxx-1. I created an icon. I entered my callsign. I made no other changes or additions to the opening screen. On occasion I get a longitude latitude grid. No Map


Re: No Map

Fred Hillhouse
 

Try the right arrow key for about 32 presses (max).

Check that in the Enable tab that the appropriate checks have been added: OSM Fetch Enable, Internet Access.

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of More Pi
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 3:54 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: [APRSISCE] No Map

 

I realize this topic has been beat to death, but no map. Gray screen only. No map displays. I have an internet connection. I have downloaded and installed APRSIS software  Windows 32 for Windows 10 operating system. My computer is not hooked up to my radio. Watched First Use video. I have a passcode. I entered my Passcode xxxxx-1. I created an icon. I entered my callsign. I made no other changes or additions to the opening screen. On occasion I get a longitude latitude grid. No Map




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No Map

More Pi
 

I realize this topic has been beat to death, but no map. Gray screen only. No map displays. I have an internet connection. I have downloaded and installed APRSIS software  Windows 32 for Windows 10 operating system. My computer is not hooked up to my radio. Watched First Use video. I have a passcode. I entered my Passcode xxxxx-1. I created an icon. I entered my callsign. I made no other changes or additions to the opening screen. On occasion I get a longitude latitude grid. No Map


Re: How to edit or delete PHG from aprs.fi

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

For the purposes of adding the PHG0000 to your free-form text comment, you're not looking for the CUSTOM0-6 fields.  They are, as we have stated numerous times, not editable but intended to be "understood" by local operations personnel.

The free-form text comment is what I found in the attached 3 pages extracted from the FT2DR APRS manual.  This is what your original question was about, and what I've been trying to answer.  Regardless of the fact that you've now managed to clear the obsolete PHG information from aprs.fi and had, at some point, managed to actually incorporate the PHG0000 in an RF position packet which was summarily not parsed by aprs.fi.

I believe this case is now closed.  But only if you accept the fact that there is not, and likely never will be, any way to edit the CUSTOM0-6 definitions of the Mic-E status code which is only allocated 3 bits in the Mic-E position packet format specification.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 2/5/2021 11:15 AM, Komkit Listisard via groups.io wrote:
I have FT2D,  FT3D,  FTM-100DR and two of FTM-400XDR and I have gone through their advanced APRS manual, I have yet to came across "how to" edit them CUSTOM0-6 field.

OFC - if I am blind or retarded or both, I could not find it.

73, Kit 


Re: How to edit or delete PHG from aprs.fi

Robert Bruninga
 

Custom 6 just means the "6"th custom message.  it means what the sender and recipient both agree it means.
It can mean "need more water" or whatever.

Bob

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 11:16 AM Komkit Listisard via groups.io <w3kit=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have FT2D,  FT3D,  FTM-100DR and two of FTM-400XDR and I have gone through their advanced APRS manual, I have yet to came across "how to" edit them CUSTOM0-6 field.

OFC - if I am blind or retarded or both, I could not find it.

73, Kit 


Re: How to edit or delete PHG from aprs.fi

Komkit Listisard
 

HAHA, that's pretty much it... "Nope, you don't edit them CUSTOMs".   :D


Re: How to edit or delete PHG from aprs.fi

Komkit Listisard
 

I have FT2D,  FT3D,  FTM-100DR and two of FTM-400XDR and I have gone through their advanced APRS manual, I have yet to came across "how to" edit them CUSTOM0-6 field.

OFC - if I am blind or retarded or both, I could not find it.

73, Kit 


Re: How to edit or delete PHG from aprs.fi

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

C0-C6 mean just what they say and what you have read "Custom 0" through "Custom 6".  There is no way to edit that meaning in any APRS radio or software that I've encountered.  It's up to the local (or global) operating group to agree on what each of those selections mean, regardless of what they say on the screen.

So Yaesu's answer to how to edit them would have been "you don't".

And the Mic-E status is actually sent in 3 bits, so there's no way to communicate any meaning other than the table from aprs101.pdf, the APRS specification document.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 2/5/2021 11:06 AM, Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:

Exactly which Yaesu radio are you talking about.  I'll find the right manual and page reference to show you the free-form text configuration for that radio.  It is not the Mic-E status, as you already know.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 2/5/2021 11:02 AM, Komkit Listisard via groups.io wrote:
Yep, I looked at all of the advanced APRS manuals from all of the Yaesu radios.  I have RTsystem programming software for those radio as well.  CUSTOM 0-6 can not be edited.

Few day ago for the heck of it, I picked "CUSTOM 0" in MIC-E and sent it through.  instead of "In Service" or "En Route" I just saw "CUSTOM 0" shows up on aprs.fi :D  

Per APRS101 manual, it did say something about the receiving station knows what "CUSTOM 0" mean.  TBH, I have no idea what is C0-C6 even mean.

C0-C6 can only be selected - there are no free form that once could edit.  Yeasu admin never approved my question on how to edit,  perhaps Yaseu does not even have a clue how to edit it haha.



73, Kit


Re: How to edit or delete PHG from aprs.fi

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Exactly which Yaesu radio are you talking about.  I'll find the right manual and page reference to show you the free-form text configuration for that radio.  It is not the Mic-E status, as you already know.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 2/5/2021 11:02 AM, Komkit Listisard via groups.io wrote:
Yep, I looked at all of the advanced APRS manuals from all of the Yaesu radios.  I have RTsystem programming software for those radio as well.  CUSTOM 0-6 can not be edited.

Few day ago for the heck of it, I picked "CUSTOM 0" in MIC-E and sent it through.  instead of "In Service" or "En Route" I just saw "CUSTOM 0" shows up on aprs.fi :D  

Per APRS101 manual, it did say something about the receiving station knows what "CUSTOM 0" mean.  TBH, I have no idea what is C0-C6 even mean.

C0-C6 can only be selected - there are no free form that once could edit.  Yeasu admin never approved my question on how to edit,  perhaps Yaseu does not even have a clue how to edit it haha.



73, Kit

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