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I hear an APRS station SCREAMING in, the red light shows decoded packets, but I see NOTHING in my log to indicatie it.

macclad44@...
 

This seems to be the key to my problems. I hear other stations loudly and clearly, but they don't show up in any raw logging even tho the decode light is lit up and the signal is nice and steady.
Any ideas out there what I might be doing wrong?


OK I'm on. I switched antennas from my Jetstream JTV680 to a G5RV-lite. 10.147.3 USB

macclad44@...
 

Tho tuning off of its resonant frequency in general it's a better listener.  I might switch to my folded dipole if this doesn't work.


Re: who can hear me on 10.147.3

macclad44@...
 

Oh. ooops. The map shows Amsterdam, you're in California.. yeah!1 OK I'm gonna fire up the program again.


Re: who can hear me on 10.147.3

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Wait, DireWolf can decode the SCS/robust packet signals?  Really?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/11/2021 10:54 AM, Brad Ko6kL via groups.io wrote:
try checking your coverage on aprsdirect
I will try to get my 30m gate back online and listen  , 
also do we have a 40m frequency for after dark ... i think I have one in the memory bank around 7,109.5 L
with direwolf I can decode the FEC packets also.

ko6kL

just put in your call-x or a hf gateway to check it heard log so to speak...





Re: who can hear me on 10.147.3

macclad44@...
 

I'm on the west coast in the US .. unlikely I'll be able to reach you, but a great idea!


who can hear me on 10.147.3

Brad Ko6kL
 

try checking your coverage on aprsdirect
I will try to get my 30m gate back online and listen  , 
also do we have a 40m frequency for after dark ... i think I have one in the memory bank around 7,109.5 L
with direwolf I can decode the FEC packets also.

ko6kL

just put in your call-x or a hf gateway to check it heard log so to speak...

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Re: OK I think I have everything running, now I'd like to find out who can hear me on 10.147.3

macclad44@...
 

I did watch the 10.1473 port (as was suggested to name it) and I can see that when I transmit it is sending the data out the SCS tracker and in fact radio (I can hear the radio transmit with another receiver). I DO see the location packet as being sent as a beacon so I think I'm good here.   What I think I need to test is received packets.  I have several SCS trackers and I will set up my mobile setup to broadcast a mobile beacon (which I've done in the past - it's been quite a few years) and drive around. I'll see if that works and if it does and my mobile setup shows up on APRS.fi then I think I'm good to go. I'm not sure if I was watching received packets when they were active in the day (they died off at night).  Since Robust Packet is so threadbare I'll have to have both the gateway and the mobile setup myself . I have seen my own Robust Packet location in my vehicle in years past but there is apparently NO WAY to see robust packet gateways in N. America - there's no way to filter the gateway stations or the mobile stations in any database to verify ROBUST packet - or VHF packet for that matter - that I know of.

ANyhow thanks for your continued help. 


Re: OK I think I have everything running, now I'd like to find out who can hear me on 10.147.3

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

See http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:transmitting

But it almost sounds like you don't actually have your TNC interface working.  Bring up Enables / View Logs / Port(<YourPortName>) and enable it and watch it a while.  And try disabling the port itself and re-enabling it and see what shows up in the trace log.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/10/2021 10:16 PM, macclad44@... wrote:
Also , should the CON light be on all the time? I've seen some on youtube where it is. I seem to be transmitting, but I can't "transmit" when I click "transmit" in the software.  I'm not sure why.


Re: OK I think I have everything running, now I'd like to find out who can hear me on 10.147.3

macclad44@...
 

Also , should the CON light be on all the time? I've seen some on youtube where it is. I seem to be transmitting, but I can't "transmit" when I click "transmit" in the software.  I'm not sure why.


Re: OK I think I have everything running, now I'd like to find out who can hear me on 10.147.3

macclad44@...
 

Thanks. I have them set.  Hmmm.. I see the decode button on when I hear an obvious RP transmission but nothing show up on the logging. Hmmmm...


Re: OK I think I have everything running, now I'd like to find out who can hear me on 10.147.3

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

View / RF / All will show only those stations that you've heard on an RF port.

Configure / Scroller / RF Only will cause the packet scroller to only show those packets received on RF.  Although with the default settings, you should see an * on RF-received packets.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/10/2021 5:08 PM, macclad44@... wrote:
As far as I know I have no way to know who is using APRS on 10.147.3 USB in the US (tho it's the allocated frequency).
I'm definitely transmitting and when it hears some other signal it's definitely responding.  
Is there a way to real time monitor decoded signals to see what I'm hearing?
I'm beaconing as N7TTQ-9 in Portland OR.
OK thanks.
Jeff N7TTQ


OK I think I have everything running, now I'd like to find out who can hear me on 10.147.3

macclad44@...
 

As far as I know I have no way to know who is using APRS on 10.147.3 USB in the US (tho it's the allocated frequency).
I'm definitely transmitting and when it hears some other signal it's definitely responding.  
Is there a way to real time monitor decoded signals to see what I'm hearing?
I'm beaconing as N7TTQ-9 in Portland OR.
OK thanks.
Jeff N7TTQ


Re: scs robust packet TNC

Wolfgang OH6DL
 

Hello Jean-Pierre,

you will find a lot of information about use of the tracker on: http://www.robust-packet.net/
Go to Documents and choose.
73,s Wolfgang OH6DL


Re: Filter Out Objects

Herb
 

Lynn,

 

I am the one N7YGE is trying to help by eliminating these nuisance Objects from my screen of which I probably have around 50 on my screen every time I bring up SARTrack.  It is very annoying since I have no need for them.  I tried to get the Summits on Air folks to limit their Objects and they basically told me to pound sand.  Since they only show up via my iGate, there is no RF transmission problem.  I did find a way to not display them on my screen but had to make a manual manipulation on a daily basis.

 

I did a cut and paste off your suggested filter, pasted it to my filter box, deleted all Objects, closed the program and restarted it.  This filter seems to have solved my problem, so Lynn a special thanks from me for solving my problem even though it is not a problem in your program.

 

Thanks again,

 

Herb

KB7UVC

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:53 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Out Objects

 

That's -s//;/S  or minus lower-s slash slash semicolon slash capital S.  You're missing the minus, s and a slash in your quote-back.

The SOTA objects I found were not Red X, but are a SOTA symbol, an S overlay on a picnic table.  The raw packets captured below are the same.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 1/7/2021 1:36 PM, Jerry N7YGE wrote:

The symbol is and Red X with a plus sign overlay.  X is /.   Seems like you would have to write to something using the period.   The /;/S did not work so far but will give 2 hours for the decay.

 

Jerry N7YGE

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 9:38 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Out Objects

 

Actually, these are using the "SOTA" symbol instead of the X that I saw yesterday.  A filter term of:

-s//;/S

should knock them out since the SOTA symbol is an S overlay on the ; alternate table symbol.

And these objects ARE on the APRS-IS network, it just depends where you are and whether or not any of them is within your range.  There are 44 active objects world wide with this symbol in the past 2 hours.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


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Re: Filter Out Objects

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Yes, I'm monitoring packets with the positive version of that filter to make sure it only picks up objects from ON6ZQ.  And it's picking up a bunch of them.

Have you tried going to the :14501 status page on the APRS-IS server to which the other client is connecting to confirm that the filter term is actually getting to the server?  Some APRS clients (like mine in some very early versions) may require a restart to have new filters take effect.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/7/2021 2:13 PM, Jerry N7YGE wrote:

Yes I copied and pasted your exact script into the filter  just as you wrote it.  No love yet for the SarTrack client.

 

I never saw any Sota symbols on the APRSISCE map nor a place to turn them on so inserting the script in the filter I have not been able to prove works yet.

 

I have to assume you have seen it work then.

 

Jerry N7YGE

 

 

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:53 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Out Objects

 

That's -s//;/S  or minus lower-s slash slash semicolon slash capital S.  You're missing the minus, s and a slash in your quote-back.

The SOTA objects I found were not Red X, but are a SOTA symbol, an S overlay on a picnic table.  The raw packets captured below are the same.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 1/7/2021 1:36 PM, Jerry N7YGE wrote:

The symbol is and Red X with a plus sign overlay.  X is /.   Seems like you would have to write to something using the period.   The /;/S did not work so far but will give 2 hours for the decay.

 

Jerry N7YGE

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 9:38 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Out Objects

 

Actually, these are using the "SOTA" symbol instead of the X that I saw yesterday.  A filter term of:

-s//;/S

should knock them out since the SOTA symbol is an S overlay on the ; alternate table symbol.

And these objects ARE on the APRS-IS network, it just depends where you are and whether or not any of them is within your range.  There are 44 active objects world wide with this symbol in the past 2 hours.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/7/2021 12:00 PM, Mark, KE6BB via groups.io wrote:

You were almost to the raw packets when you were on aprs.fi.  All you had to do is click on "raw" link just below your browser's address field, and copy and paste a few of the raw packets on that next screen.  Here are a few:

2021-01-07 08:08:42 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;DL/AM-001*071608z4748.05NS01100.77E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1315z
2021-01-07 08:08:51 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;W7W/SO119*111111z4701.39N/12258.82W.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:10:35 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;DL/AM-176*071610z4742.92NS01054.56E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1030z
2021-01-07 08:10:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,NINTH:;W0C/FR037*071610z4017.31NS10531.04W;SOTA activ. planned on 20210107 1800z
2021-01-07 08:12:41 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;HB/BE-111*111111z4655.04N/00726.63E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:12:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;E7/BO-067*111111z4500.83N/01654.55E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk

So Randy was correct. "-b/ON6ZQ" should block all of these, but will also block any other traffic from ON6ZQ, which may or may not be a good thing for you.  A second choice in blocking filter might be "-u/APN100" but that will block any packets with APN100 in the "to call" field, and also may or may not be what you want.  I am unfamiliar with the app being used here, so I can't tell you how to enter server side filters on it.

It appears those objects are "Summits on the Air" (SOTA) peaks being injected into the server your friends application is using.  That might explain why we do not see sota peak objects on APRSIS32.  Maybe changing the server to one that doesn't include sota peaks out might be helpful.  For example when I use firenet, I filter out the water station objects so they don't  clutter my screen.  I don't have to filter those objects out when I use one of the rotate.aprs2.net servers because they aren't sent on by that group of servers.  Try noam.aprs2.net to see if they no longer show up. 

Be sure to clear out all of the objects after changing filters or switching servers so you can see if there is any improvement.  The objects may take several hours to time out if you don't.

Mark,
KE6BB


Re: Filter Out Objects

Jerry N7YGE
 

Yes I copied and pasted your exact script into the filter  just as you wrote it.  No love yet for the SarTrack client.

 

I never saw any Sota symbols on the APRSISCE map nor a place to turn them on so inserting the script in the filter I have not been able to prove works yet.

 

I have to assume you have seen it work then.

 

Jerry N7YGE

 

 

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:53 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Out Objects

 

That's -s//;/S  or minus lower-s slash slash semicolon slash capital S.  You're missing the minus, s and a slash in your quote-back.

The SOTA objects I found were not Red X, but are a SOTA symbol, an S overlay on a picnic table.  The raw packets captured below are the same.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 1/7/2021 1:36 PM, Jerry N7YGE wrote:

The symbol is and Red X with a plus sign overlay.  X is /.   Seems like you would have to write to something using the period.   The /;/S did not work so far but will give 2 hours for the decay.

 

Jerry N7YGE

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 9:38 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Out Objects

 

Actually, these are using the "SOTA" symbol instead of the X that I saw yesterday.  A filter term of:

-s//;/S

should knock them out since the SOTA symbol is an S overlay on the ; alternate table symbol.

And these objects ARE on the APRS-IS network, it just depends where you are and whether or not any of them is within your range.  There are 44 active objects world wide with this symbol in the past 2 hours.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/7/2021 12:00 PM, Mark, KE6BB via groups.io wrote:

You were almost to the raw packets when you were on aprs.fi.  All you had to do is click on "raw" link just below your browser's address field, and copy and paste a few of the raw packets on that next screen.  Here are a few:

2021-01-07 08:08:42 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;DL/AM-001*071608z4748.05NS01100.77E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1315z
2021-01-07 08:08:51 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;W7W/SO119*111111z4701.39N/12258.82W.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:10:35 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;DL/AM-176*071610z4742.92NS01054.56E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1030z
2021-01-07 08:10:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,NINTH:;W0C/FR037*071610z4017.31NS10531.04W;SOTA activ. planned on 20210107 1800z
2021-01-07 08:12:41 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;HB/BE-111*111111z4655.04N/00726.63E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:12:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;E7/BO-067*111111z4500.83N/01654.55E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk

So Randy was correct. "-b/ON6ZQ" should block all of these, but will also block any other traffic from ON6ZQ, which may or may not be a good thing for you.  A second choice in blocking filter might be "-u/APN100" but that will block any packets with APN100 in the "to call" field, and also may or may not be what you want.  I am unfamiliar with the app being used here, so I can't tell you how to enter server side filters on it.

It appears those objects are "Summits on the Air" (SOTA) peaks being injected into the server your friends application is using.  That might explain why we do not see sota peak objects on APRSIS32.  Maybe changing the server to one that doesn't include sota peaks out might be helpful.  For example when I use firenet, I filter out the water station objects so they don't  clutter my screen.  I don't have to filter those objects out when I use one of the rotate.aprs2.net servers because they aren't sent on by that group of servers.  Try noam.aprs2.net to see if they no longer show up. 

Be sure to clear out all of the objects after changing filters or switching servers so you can see if there is any improvement.  The objects may take several hours to time out if you don't.

Mark,
KE6BB


Re: Filter Out Objects

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

That's -s//;/S  or minus lower-s slash slash semicolon slash capital S.  You're missing the minus, s and a slash in your quote-back.

The SOTA objects I found were not Red X, but are a SOTA symbol, an S overlay on a picnic table.  The raw packets captured below are the same.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/7/2021 1:36 PM, Jerry N7YGE wrote:

The symbol is and Red X with a plus sign overlay.  X is /.   Seems like you would have to write to something using the period.   The /;/S did not work so far but will give 2 hours for the decay.

 

Jerry N7YGE

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 9:38 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Out Objects

 

Actually, these are using the "SOTA" symbol instead of the X that I saw yesterday.  A filter term of:

-s//;/S

should knock them out since the SOTA symbol is an S overlay on the ; alternate table symbol.

And these objects ARE on the APRS-IS network, it just depends where you are and whether or not any of them is within your range.  There are 44 active objects world wide with this symbol in the past 2 hours.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 1/7/2021 12:00 PM, Mark, KE6BB via groups.io wrote:

You were almost to the raw packets when you were on aprs.fi.  All you had to do is click on "raw" link just below your browser's address field, and copy and paste a few of the raw packets on that next screen.  Here are a few:

2021-01-07 08:08:42 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;DL/AM-001*071608z4748.05NS01100.77E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1315z
2021-01-07 08:08:51 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;W7W/SO119*111111z4701.39N/12258.82W.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:10:35 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;DL/AM-176*071610z4742.92NS01054.56E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1030z
2021-01-07 08:10:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,NINTH:;W0C/FR037*071610z4017.31NS10531.04W;SOTA activ. planned on 20210107 1800z
2021-01-07 08:12:41 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;HB/BE-111*111111z4655.04N/00726.63E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:12:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;E7/BO-067*111111z4500.83N/01654.55E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk

So Randy was correct. "-b/ON6ZQ" should block all of these, but will also block any other traffic from ON6ZQ, which may or may not be a good thing for you.  A second choice in blocking filter might be "-u/APN100" but that will block any packets with APN100 in the "to call" field, and also may or may not be what you want.  I am unfamiliar with the app being used here, so I can't tell you how to enter server side filters on it.

It appears those objects are "Summits on the Air" (SOTA) peaks being injected into the server your friends application is using.  That might explain why we do not see sota peak objects on APRSIS32.  Maybe changing the server to one that doesn't include sota peaks out might be helpful.  For example when I use firenet, I filter out the water station objects so they don't  clutter my screen.  I don't have to filter those objects out when I use one of the rotate.aprs2.net servers because they aren't sent on by that group of servers.  Try noam.aprs2.net to see if they no longer show up. 

Be sure to clear out all of the objects after changing filters or switching servers so you can see if there is any improvement.  The objects may take several hours to time out if you don't.

Mark,
KE6BB


Re: Filter Out Objects

Jerry N7YGE
 

The symbol is and Red X with a plus sign overlay.  X is /.   Seems like you would have to write to something using the period.   The /;/S did not work so far but will give 2 hours for the decay.

 

Jerry N7YGE

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 9:38 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Out Objects

 

Actually, these are using the "SOTA" symbol instead of the X that I saw yesterday.  A filter term of:

-s//;/S

should knock them out since the SOTA symbol is an S overlay on the ; alternate table symbol.

And these objects ARE on the APRS-IS network, it just depends where you are and whether or not any of them is within your range.  There are 44 active objects world wide with this symbol in the past 2 hours.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 1/7/2021 12:00 PM, Mark, KE6BB via groups.io wrote:

You were almost to the raw packets when you were on aprs.fi.  All you had to do is click on "raw" link just below your browser's address field, and copy and paste a few of the raw packets on that next screen.  Here are a few:

2021-01-07 08:08:42 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;DL/AM-001*071608z4748.05NS01100.77E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1315z
2021-01-07 08:08:51 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;W7W/SO119*111111z4701.39N/12258.82W.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:10:35 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;DL/AM-176*071610z4742.92NS01054.56E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1030z
2021-01-07 08:10:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,NINTH:;W0C/FR037*071610z4017.31NS10531.04W;SOTA activ. planned on 20210107 1800z
2021-01-07 08:12:41 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;HB/BE-111*111111z4655.04N/00726.63E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:12:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;E7/BO-067*111111z4500.83N/01654.55E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk

So Randy was correct. "-b/ON6ZQ" should block all of these, but will also block any other traffic from ON6ZQ, which may or may not be a good thing for you.  A second choice in blocking filter might be "-u/APN100" but that will block any packets with APN100 in the "to call" field, and also may or may not be what you want.  I am unfamiliar with the app being used here, so I can't tell you how to enter server side filters on it.

It appears those objects are "Summits on the Air" (SOTA) peaks being injected into the server your friends application is using.  That might explain why we do not see sota peak objects on APRSIS32.  Maybe changing the server to one that doesn't include sota peaks out might be helpful.  For example when I use firenet, I filter out the water station objects so they don't  clutter my screen.  I don't have to filter those objects out when I use one of the rotate.aprs2.net servers because they aren't sent on by that group of servers.  Try noam.aprs2.net to see if they no longer show up. 

Be sure to clear out all of the objects after changing filters or switching servers so you can see if there is any improvement.  The objects may take several hours to time out if you don't.

Mark,
KE6BB


Re: Filter Out Objects

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Actually, these are using the "SOTA" symbol instead of the X that I saw yesterday.  A filter term of:

-s//;/S

should knock them out since the SOTA symbol is an S overlay on the ; alternate table symbol.

And these objects ARE on the APRS-IS network, it just depends where you are and whether or not any of them is within your range.  There are 44 active objects world wide with this symbol in the past 2 hours.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/7/2021 12:00 PM, Mark, KE6BB via groups.io wrote:
You were almost to the raw packets when you were on aprs.fi.  All you had to do is click on "raw" link just below your browser's address field, and copy and paste a few of the raw packets on that next screen.  Here are a few:

2021-01-07 08:08:42 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;DL/AM-001*071608z4748.05NS01100.77E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1315z
2021-01-07 08:08:51 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;W7W/SO119*111111z4701.39N/12258.82W.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:10:35 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;DL/AM-176*071610z4742.92NS01054.56E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1030z
2021-01-07 08:10:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,NINTH:;W0C/FR037*071610z4017.31NS10531.04W;SOTA activ. planned on 20210107 1800z
2021-01-07 08:12:41 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;HB/BE-111*111111z4655.04N/00726.63E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:12:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;E7/BO-067*111111z4500.83N/01654.55E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk

So Randy was correct. "-b/ON6ZQ" should block all of these, but will also block any other traffic from ON6ZQ, which may or may not be a good thing for you.  A second choice in blocking filter might be "-u/APN100" but that will block any packets with APN100 in the "to call" field, and also may or may not be what you want.  I am unfamiliar with the app being used here, so I can't tell you how to enter server side filters on it.

It appears those objects are "Summits on the Air" (SOTA) peaks being injected into the server your friends application is using.  That might explain why we do not see sota peak objects on APRSIS32.  Maybe changing the server to one that doesn't include sota peaks out might be helpful.  For example when I use firenet, I filter out the water station objects so they don't  clutter my screen.  I don't have to filter those objects out when I use one of the rotate.aprs2.net servers because they aren't sent on by that group of servers.  Try noam.aprs2.net to see if they no longer show up. 

Be sure to clear out all of the objects after changing filters or switching servers so you can see if there is any improvement.  The objects may take several hours to time out if you don't.

Mark,
KE6BB


Re: Filter Out Objects

Mark, KE6BB
 

You were almost to the raw packets when you were on aprs.fi.  All you had to do is click on "raw" link just below your browser's address field, and copy and paste a few of the raw packets on that next screen.  Here are a few:

2021-01-07 08:08:42 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;DL/AM-001*071608z4748.05NS01100.77E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1315z
2021-01-07 08:08:51 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;W7W/SO119*111111z4701.39N/12258.82W.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:10:35 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;DL/AM-176*071610z4742.92NS01054.56E;SOTA activ. planned on 20210108 1030z
2021-01-07 08:10:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,NINTH:;W0C/FR037*071610z4017.31NS10531.04W;SOTA activ. planned on 20210107 1800z
2021-01-07 08:12:41 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,FIFTH:;HB/BE-111*111111z4655.04N/00726.63E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk
2021-01-07 08:12:50 PST: ON6ZQ>APN100,TCPIP*,qAC,EIGHTH:;E7/BO-067*111111z4500.83N/01654.55E.Summits On The Air - www.sota.org.uk

So Randy was correct. "-b/ON6ZQ" should block all of these, but will also block any other traffic from ON6ZQ, which may or may not be a good thing for you.  A second choice in blocking filter might be "-u/APN100" but that will block any packets with APN100 in the "to call" field, and also may or may not be what you want.  I am unfamiliar with the app being used here, so I can't tell you how to enter server side filters on it.

It appears those objects are "Summits on the Air" (SOTA) peaks being injected into the server your friends application is using.  That might explain why we do not see sota peak objects on APRSIS32.  Maybe changing the server to one that doesn't include sota peaks out might be helpful.  For example when I use firenet, I filter out the water station objects so they don't  clutter my screen.  I don't have to filter those objects out when I use one of the rotate.aprs2.net servers because they aren't sent on by that group of servers.  Try noam.aprs2.net to see if they no longer show up. 

Be sure to clear out all of the objects after changing filters or switching servers so you can see if there is any improvement.  The objects may take several hours to time out if you don't.

Mark,
KE6BB

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