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Re: Telemetry

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

Maybe a better location is WA6ODP-2 where I DO send telemetry on RF (once an hour to RF).  The data is more difficult to understand here, but more than 3 characters...
Arnold, KQ6DI

On 10/13/2020 4:00 PM Arnold Harding. - KQ6DI <kq6di@...> wrote:


I send 4 characters in telemetry 'bytes'.  Check raw data from WA6ODP-4.  So power supply voltage today is reading 1392, and in the cabinet temperature (Ambient) is 1088 (108.8° ).  I've been doing it this way for a couple years.  I know I checked aprs.fi and findu.com, and I must have checked APRSISCE/32, (but I don't remember on APRSISCE/32).  So more than 8 bit telemetry can go through and work.  I don't know what the limit of individual programs is, but RF goes...
Arnold, KQ6DI
On 10/13/2020 3:09 PM Lynn Deffenbaugh < kj4erj@...> wrote:


Nope.  I don't remember that, but Hessu has proposed extending beyond
the 0-255 values and there's also a Mic-E version of telemetry that goes
directly in the position packet comment.

Do you have a reference for Bob's proposal?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/13/2020 5:12 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:
Hi Lynn,

It seems not that long ago that Bob, WB4APR, mentioned a possibility to have
more telemetry by flipping a bit in the packet. Did you see the post and
have you done anything to possibly support it?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH







Re: Telemetry

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

I send 4 characters in telemetry 'bytes'.  Check raw data from WA6ODP-4.  So power supply voltage today is reading 1392, and in the cabinet temperature (Ambient) is 1088 (108.8° ).  I've been doing it this way for a couple years.  I know I checked aprs.fi and findu.com, and I must have checked APRSISCE/32, (but I don't remember on APRSISCE/32).  So more than 8 bit telemetry can go through and work.  I don't know what the limit of individual programs is, but RF goes...
Arnold, KQ6DI

On 10/13/2020 3:09 PM Lynn Deffenbaugh < kj4erj@...> wrote:


Nope.  I don't remember that, but Hessu has proposed extending beyond
the 0-255 values and there's also a Mic-E version of telemetry that goes
directly in the position packet comment.

Do you have a reference for Bob's proposal?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/13/2020 5:12 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:
Hi Lynn,

It seems not that long ago that Bob, WB4APR, mentioned a possibility to have
more telemetry by flipping a bit in the packet. Did you see the post and
have you done anything to possibly support it?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH






Re: weather buoy data

Brian Webster
 

Do they include that data on the firenet feed? If so one would just have to
log in to a Firenet feed instead of the regular aprs server feed.

Brian N2KGC

-----Original Message-----
From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Fred
Hillhouse
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 12:06 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] weather bouy data

Essentially the data needs to be scraped, pack into a series of telemetry
packets, then sent to the server. Considering how much data might be
created, the data might be best on Firenet. It may already be available.

Here is a link to the raw data:
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/latest_obs/latest_obs.txt

What data is of interest to you? My favorite four are:
WDIR - Wind Direction
WSPD - Wind Speed
WVHT - Wave Height
PRES - Air Pressure

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH


-----Original Message-----
From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of T W via
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Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 3:18 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: [APRSISCE] weather bouy data

Does anyone here now how to incorporate weather bouy data from NOAA into the
display? Down here on the gulf coast this could be useful.
Thank in advance.

Cheers
kf6kyd






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Re: Telemetry

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Nope.  I don't remember that, but Hessu has proposed extending beyond the 0-255 values and there's also a Mic-E version of telemetry that goes directly in the position packet comment.

Do you have a reference for Bob's proposal?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/13/2020 5:12 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:
Hi Lynn,

It seems not that long ago that Bob, WB4APR, mentioned a possibility to have
more telemetry by flipping a bit in the packet. Did you see the post and
have you done anything to possibly support it?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH



Telemetry

Fred Hillhouse
 

Hi Lynn,

It seems not that long ago that Bob, WB4APR, mentioned a possibility to have
more telemetry by flipping a bit in the packet. Did you see the post and
have you done anything to possibly support it?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH



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Re: weather bouy data

Fred Hillhouse
 

Essentially the data needs to be scraped, pack into a series of telemetry
packets, then sent to the server. Considering how much data might be
created, the data might be best on Firenet. It may already be available.

Here is a link to the raw data:
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/latest_obs/latest_obs.txt

What data is of interest to you? My favorite four are:
WDIR - Wind Direction
WSPD - Wind Speed
WVHT - Wave Height
PRES - Air Pressure

Best regards,
Fred N7FMH

-----Original Message-----
From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of T W via
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Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 3:18 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: [APRSISCE] weather bouy data

Does anyone here now how to incorporate weather bouy data from NOAA into the
display? Down here on the gulf coast this could be useful.
Thank in advance.

Cheers
kf6kyd






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Re: weather bouy data

Hal Mueller
 

If you just want it in your display, you could convert the KMZ to GPX and follow the steps for adding a GPX overlay.

Hal
N3YX


Re: weather bouy data

Glenn O'Connor
 

Wouldn't KML objects have to be manually entered by the interested party for
transmission?

-----Original Message-----
From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> On Behalf Of T W via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 4:22 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] weather bouy data

Hi Lynn, how can I tell that? I do know that NOAA is making the data
available as KML objects.

On 10 Oct 2020, at 15:16, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@arrl.net> wrote:

Is the data available as APRS objects?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/10/2020 3:17 PM, T W via groups.io wrote:
Does anyone here now how to incorporate weather bouy data from NOAA into
the display? Down here on the gulf coast this could be useful.
Thank in advance.

Cheers
kf6kyd






Re: weather bouy data

T W
 

Hi Lynn, how can I tell that? I do know that NOAA is making the data available as KML objects.

On 10 Oct 2020, at 15:16, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@arrl.net> wrote:

Is the data available as APRS objects?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/10/2020 3:17 PM, T W via groups.io wrote:
Does anyone here now how to incorporate weather bouy data from NOAA into the display? Down here on the gulf coast this could be useful.
Thank in advance.

Cheers
kf6kyd






Re: gps

ve6tdx
 

Hi Lynn.

Maybe if I send u the xlm. File.

I am not good with computer files.

To old for this.

Thanks in advance.

Adrian.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: October 11, 2020 11:17 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] gps

 

Does the D710 indicate that it is receiving a GPS fix?

What Port Type do you use to communicate to the D710?

What are the <Open/CloseCmd>s specified for that port in your APRSIS32.xml file?

Do you have the option to enable or disable the GPS in APRSIS32's Enables menu?

If you open and enable the Port<YourPortName> trace log, what do you see?

Do you have an NMEA trace log?  If you open and enable it, what do you see?

Is this instance stationary or mobile?  The only one I see for you recently is VE6TDX-9 with a car symbol.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/11/2020 12:06 PM, ve6tdx wrote:

Hi Lynn.

Thanks for the response.

Sorry for not telling the whole setup.

I have a Montana 600 garmin gps with the nmea I/o to the kenwood710 radio.

The radio is connected to a  computer running windows 10

I could see the gps status on the screen.

This morning I cheched the about and it told me there is a new update.

The new version is 2020/05/01.

Thanks for the nice Program.

Adrian

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: October 11, 2020 9:52 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] gps

 

I assume your "aprs software" is APRSIS32?  Are you running development version or general release?  What does it say in your About box?

What is your GPS?  Is it directly connected to your PC or running through an APRS radio or TNC?  Are you sure it is NMEA?  Does it come through a COM port?  Have you connected a terminal emulator to said COM port to see if you get readable NMEA strings?

So many questions, and probably more to follow!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/11/2020 11:29 AM, ve6tdx wrote:

Hi Guys.

I just updated my aprs software on the computer from the old version.

Now my gps is not showing on the computer anymore.

I went through the settings but nothing.

Is there something that I am missing?

Thanks in advance.

Adrian de ve6tdx

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: gps

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Does the D710 indicate that it is receiving a GPS fix?

What Port Type do you use to communicate to the D710?

What are the <Open/CloseCmd>s specified for that port in your APRSIS32.xml file?

Do you have the option to enable or disable the GPS in APRSIS32's Enables menu?

If you open and enable the Port<YourPortName> trace log, what do you see?

Do you have an NMEA trace log?  If you open and enable it, what do you see?

Is this instance stationary or mobile?  The only one I see for you recently is VE6TDX-9 with a car symbol.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/11/2020 12:06 PM, ve6tdx wrote:

Hi Lynn.

Thanks for the response.

Sorry for not telling the whole setup.

I have a Montana 600 garmin gps with the nmea I/o to the kenwood710 radio.

The radio is connected to a  computer running windows 10

I could see the gps status on the screen.

This morning I cheched the about and it told me there is a new update.

The new version is 2020/05/01.

Thanks for the nice Program.

Adrian

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: October 11, 2020 9:52 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] gps

 

I assume your "aprs software" is APRSIS32?  Are you running development version or general release?  What does it say in your About box?

What is your GPS?  Is it directly connected to your PC or running through an APRS radio or TNC?  Are you sure it is NMEA?  Does it come through a COM port?  Have you connected a terminal emulator to said COM port to see if you get readable NMEA strings?

So many questions, and probably more to follow!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/11/2020 11:29 AM, ve6tdx wrote:

Hi Guys.

I just updated my aprs software on the computer from the old version.

Now my gps is not showing on the computer anymore.

I went through the settings but nothing.

Is there something that I am missing?

Thanks in advance.

Adrian de ve6tdx

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: gps

ve6tdx
 

Hi Lynn.

Thanks for the response.

Sorry for not telling the whole setup.

I have a Montana 600 garmin gps with the nmea I/o to the kenwood710 radio.

The radio is connected to a  computer running windows 10

I could see the gps status on the screen.

This morning I cheched the about and it told me there is a new update.

The new version is 2020/05/01.

Thanks for the nice Program.

Adrian

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: October 11, 2020 9:52 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] gps

 

I assume your "aprs software" is APRSIS32?  Are you running development version or general release?  What does it say in your About box?

What is your GPS?  Is it directly connected to your PC or running through an APRS radio or TNC?  Are you sure it is NMEA?  Does it come through a COM port?  Have you connected a terminal emulator to said COM port to see if you get readable NMEA strings?

So many questions, and probably more to follow!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/11/2020 11:29 AM, ve6tdx wrote:

Hi Guys.

I just updated my aprs software on the computer from the old version.

Now my gps is not showing on the computer anymore.

I went through the settings but nothing.

Is there something that I am missing?

Thanks in advance.

Adrian de ve6tdx

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: gps

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

I assume your "aprs software" is APRSIS32?  Are you running development version or general release?  What does it say in your About box?

What is your GPS?  Is it directly connected to your PC or running through an APRS radio or TNC?  Are you sure it is NMEA?  Does it come through a COM port?  Have you connected a terminal emulator to said COM port to see if you get readable NMEA strings?

So many questions, and probably more to follow!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/11/2020 11:29 AM, ve6tdx wrote:

Hi Guys.

I just updated my aprs software on the computer from the old version.

Now my gps is not showing on the computer anymore.

I went through the settings but nothing.

Is there something that I am missing?

Thanks in advance.

Adrian de ve6tdx

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


gps

ve6tdx
 

Hi Guys.

I just updated my aprs software on the computer from the old version.

Now my gps is not showing on the computer anymore.

I went through the settings but nothing.

Is there something that I am missing?

Thanks in advance.

Adrian de ve6tdx

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: weather bouy data

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Is the data available as APRS objects?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/10/2020 3:17 PM, T W via groups.io wrote:
Does anyone here now how to incorporate weather bouy data from NOAA into the display? Down here on the gulf coast this could be useful.
Thank in advance.

Cheers
kf6kyd



weather bouy data

T W
 

Does anyone here now how to incorporate weather bouy data from NOAA into the display? Down here on the gulf coast this could be useful.
Thank in advance.

Cheers
kf6kyd


Re: Management of Broadcast messages

Greg D
 

Thanks, Lynn.

The version of "Windows" here is an older copy of OpenSuSE Linux, with APRSIS32 running under Wine.  :)

If this is somewhere on your possible improvements list, that's all I can ask.  Again, it's not been a problem, just appears to be an opportunity for improvement.  We can't have enough configuration items, right?

Greg  KO6TH


Lynn Deffenbaugh wrote:

Notify is all you get right now.  That's what's causing Windows to put the beep and message text bubble.  APRSIS32 doesn't do anything expect fire off a Windows notification, and only if you have Notify checked as you've observed.  In most situations that I've observed, bulletins are set and forgotten such that they periodically re-transmit themselves.  It was due to that "feature" that I made it possible to turn OFF the notification because it fires way to often in some circumstances.

What version of Windows are you running?  I believe Windows 10 keeps the notifications until you clear them, but it does auto-hide them.  Check the icon to the extreme right (or bottom) end of your task bar.  Clicking that should bring up all notifications that you haven't explicitly dismissed.  I must confess, however, that I'm not positive that APRSIS32's Bulletin notifications will show up there.

It's the "Action Center" button and looks like this (at least on my machine) and lives just to the right of the date/time.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/9/2020 5:32 PM, Greg D wrote:
Hi Lynn,

So I've noticed recently that I'm getting an occasional Bulletin message
sent out by someone (KM6HBH) who's running a net a little ways away. 
Totally legit, nice to know; not complaining about that.

But when received, the Bulletin creates a single "Beep" on the computer,
and a message text bubble in the upper right corner of the screen which
goes away on its own a few seconds later.  If I happen to be nearby and
hear the beep, and then catch the bubble before it goes away, I can see
it.  Otherwise, there's no hint that it even happened.   That same Beep
is also generated when the Internet goes out, which, unfortunately, can
be a similarly frequent event, so it can be ignored due to fatigue at times.

I see under Messages / Bulletins / View that I can check to see what's
been received, but that kind of defeats the time-value of the Bulletin
message.  Is there any way to configure how a Bulletin is presented on
the screen, e.g. for how long, and with what sort of notification flag
(like the Messages rectangle in the upper right corner of the map)? 
There's a check for Notify in the Messages / Bulletin menu, but no
Configure.

Thanks,

Greg  KO6TH








Re: Management of Broadcast messages

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Notify is all you get right now.  That's what's causing Windows to put the beep and message text bubble.  APRSIS32 doesn't do anything expect fire off a Windows notification, and only if you have Notify checked as you've observed.  In most situations that I've observed, bulletins are set and forgotten such that they periodically re-transmit themselves.  It was due to that "feature" that I made it possible to turn OFF the notification because it fires way to often in some circumstances.

What version of Windows are you running?  I believe Windows 10 keeps the notifications until you clear them, but it does auto-hide them.  Check the icon to the extreme right (or bottom) end of your task bar.  Clicking that should bring up all notifications that you haven't explicitly dismissed.  I must confess, however, that I'm not positive that APRSIS32's Bulletin notifications will show up there.

It's the "Action Center" button and looks like this (at least on my machine) and lives just to the right of the date/time.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/9/2020 5:32 PM, Greg D wrote:
Hi Lynn,

So I've noticed recently that I'm getting an occasional Bulletin message
sent out by someone (KM6HBH) who's running a net a little ways away. 
Totally legit, nice to know; not complaining about that.

But when received, the Bulletin creates a single "Beep" on the computer,
and a message text bubble in the upper right corner of the screen which
goes away on its own a few seconds later.  If I happen to be nearby and
hear the beep, and then catch the bubble before it goes away, I can see
it.  Otherwise, there's no hint that it even happened.   That same Beep
is also generated when the Internet goes out, which, unfortunately, can
be a similarly frequent event, so it can be ignored due to fatigue at times.

I see under Messages / Bulletins / View that I can check to see what's
been received, but that kind of defeats the time-value of the Bulletin
message.  Is there any way to configure how a Bulletin is presented on
the screen, e.g. for how long, and with what sort of notification flag
(like the Messages rectangle in the upper right corner of the map)? 
There's a check for Notify in the Messages / Bulletin menu, but no
Configure.

Thanks,

Greg  KO6TH







Management of Broadcast messages

Greg D
 

Hi Lynn,

So I've noticed recently that I'm getting an occasional Bulletin message
sent out by someone (KM6HBH) who's running a net a little ways away.
Totally legit, nice to know; not complaining about that.

But when received, the Bulletin creates a single "Beep" on the computer,
and a message text bubble in the upper right corner of the screen which
goes away on its own a few seconds later. If I happen to be nearby and
hear the beep, and then catch the bubble before it goes away, I can see
it. Otherwise, there's no hint that it even happened. That same Beep
is also generated when the Internet goes out, which, unfortunately, can
be a similarly frequent event, so it can be ignored due to fatigue at times.

I see under Messages / Bulletins / View that I can check to see what's
been received, but that kind of defeats the time-value of the Bulletin
message. Is there any way to configure how a Bulletin is presented on
the screen, e.g. for how long, and with what sort of notification flag
(like the Messages rectangle in the upper right corner of the map)?
There's a check for Notify in the Messages / Bulletin menu, but no
Configure.

Thanks,

Greg KO6TH


Re: Store Map Tiles on microSD Card?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Just create a new tile set from the same URL and when APRSIS32 prompts for where to store the tiles, navigate to your SD card.  Once that is all done, you can manually copy the existing tiles from where they are to where you want them to be.

This will all get easier once I figure out the user interface to MbTiles storage.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/9/2020 1:07 PM, Charles Jessee wrote:
Finally getting to this but getting it wrong -- probably formatting. Can you advise a fix?

BRET/N4SRN

<OSM.Path>.C:/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/APRSIS32.osm</OSM.Path>
<!--TileServer[0]-->

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