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Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

ve6frc@...
 

Had Putty working on Port 5 for about 2 min. Shut down putty and started Aprsis. Would not connect. Have bought a ftdi chipset cable from Amazon. Will play once it is in.
Tried to roll back driver version. Wouldn’t take it.  


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

patrick lambert
 

I agree that's he's got the wrong driver. But I use an old driver and it work flawlessly. The only thing is sometime windows will do an update and will put the last driver version and your wire won't comminicate. You just go in the com port propreties in the device manager setting and put back the driver that work .

Pat 🗻🎿


From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of Brian Webster via groups.io <radiowebst@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:23:31 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] RX/TX From radio/tnc
 

If your TNC is permanently in Kiss mode then Putty probably won’t work. Putty over the serial port is looking for a standard serial to device connection, not kiss. The only thing that will talk to the TNC will be a program that speaks the kiss protocol.

 

If you are using a USB to serial adapter, keep in mind that if you remove the USB plug and plug it in to any other USB port it will then get a new com port assignment in most cases. If you are using a USB to serial adapter also check to make sure that adapter is not one of the prolific chipset models.  There was a problem with counterfeit prolific chipsets so Windows updated the drivers to validate the chipset and if it was a counterfeit the driver won’t work (there is a way to use old drivers but you have to look up how to do that). For newer versions of windows it is best to get a newer SUB to serial adapter that uses the FTDI chipset.

 

Brian N2KGC

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of ve6frc@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:00 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] RX/TX From radio/tnc

 

Hi all. 


TNC is definitely in kiss mode.It is set as per the two lines on the KPC3 + page to be in kiss mode all the time.
I have narrowed down to a port issue. Even if I use another cable which then shows as port 4, I still can not see Or talk to that port with Putty. In fact I can not communicate with any port. Not sure if this is a win 10 thing or what. 


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

patrick lambert
 

Not the good one. Well for me. I will check mine and come back in 10 minutes. I'm outside right now.

Pat 🗻🎿


From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> on behalf of ve6frc@... <ve6frc@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:22:31 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] RX/TX From radio/tnc
 
3.8.31.0


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

Brian Webster
 

If your TNC is permanently in Kiss mode then Putty probably won’t work. Putty over the serial port is looking for a standard serial to device connection, not kiss. The only thing that will talk to the TNC will be a program that speaks the kiss protocol.

 

If you are using a USB to serial adapter, keep in mind that if you remove the USB plug and plug it in to any other USB port it will then get a new com port assignment in most cases. If you are using a USB to serial adapter also check to make sure that adapter is not one of the prolific chipset models.  There was a problem with counterfeit prolific chipsets so Windows updated the drivers to validate the chipset and if it was a counterfeit the driver won’t work (there is a way to use old drivers but you have to look up how to do that). For newer versions of windows it is best to get a newer SUB to serial adapter that uses the FTDI chipset.

 

Brian N2KGC

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of ve6frc@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:00 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] RX/TX From radio/tnc

 

Hi all. 


TNC is definitely in kiss mode.It is set as per the two lines on the KPC3 + page to be in kiss mode all the time.
I have narrowed down to a port issue. Even if I use another cable which then shows as port 4, I still can not see Or talk to that port with Putty. In fact I can not communicate with any port. Not sure if this is a win 10 thing or what. 


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

ve6frc@...
 

3.8.31.0


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

patrick lambert
 

Yes Indeed it can. What is you driver number in the comport #4?

Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 5 août 2020 à 22:00, "ve6frc@..." <ve6frc@...> a écrit :



Hi all. 


TNC is definitely in kiss mode.It is set as per the two lines on the KPC3 + page to be in kiss mode all the time.
I have narrowed down to a port issue. Even if I use another cable which then shows as port 4, I still can not see Or talk to that port with Putty. In fact I can not communicate with any port. Not sure if this is a win 10 thing or what. 


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

ve6frc@...
 

Hi all. 


TNC is definitely in kiss mode.It is set as per the two lines on the KPC3 + page to be in kiss mode all the time.
I have narrowed down to a port issue. Even if I use another cable which then shows as port 4, I still can not see Or talk to that port with Putty. In fact I can not communicate with any port. Not sure if this is a win 10 thing or what. 


Re: Igate setup

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Configure / Ports / APRS-IS / Device.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/5/2020 7:34 PM, Alder Kail wrote:
Alright, I got everything set up and running. Using an object for weather reporting under the same SSID and same location, it seems to be working correctly? Hopefully. It gave me a warning when I set it up that way but I can't really see any malfunctions. So far the gate as uploaded some traffic (Including my own) And that's great! As far as setting the server to noam.aprs2.net I have no clue where to set this, I've searched through all the options and I just am unsure. Thanks for the very helpful comment though! I greatly appreciate it. 
Ian KI5IBL


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Just what do you specifically mean by that statement?  If you don't get anything from the TNC into a terminal emulator on the APRSIS32 machine, then APRSIS32 won't get anything either.  You need to track down the proper COMM port and settings such that SOMETHING comes in to a terminal emulator.  Once that is working, we can go forward with port types and everything else.

From the logs you provided, COM5 is being opened, but there is nothing coming in to be read.  You've got a connectivity issue between the TNC and the APRSIS32 PC that needs to be diagnosed with a terminal emulator on that machine.

Just because the device was COM5 on the Windows 98 machine (assumption on my part) doesn't mean that COM5 on the APRSIS32 machine is the same adapter and port.  You may also need to "joy plug" the handshaking signals as that is another difference between operating systems.  That means tie RTS to CTS and DTR to DTR and CD on the TNC end of the plug.  Some USB cables don't pass these signals through and some TNCs require them before they'll send out any data.

There may be a TNC setting to use software handshaking instead of hardware handshaking.  This can also help.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/5/2020 2:06 PM, ve6frc@... wrote:
And negative on Putty connecting to TNC from APRSIS 32 machine.


Re: Igate setup

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Strange website redirect on that DNS, but we don't use it for web access, but for port 14580.  Here's the site that actually lists the regional rotate DNS names that are available.  http://www.aprs2.net/

Regional Rotate Addresses

Please use one of the following addresses to connect:

  • North America
    noam.aprs2.net
  • South America
    soam.aprs2.net
  • Europe & Africa
    euro.aprs2.net
  • Asia
    asia.aprs2.net
  • Oceania
    aunz.aprs2.net

All users should be connecting to port 14580 the client-defined filter port.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/5/2020 1:46 PM, Bob German wrote:
Lynn,
Thanks for the info.  I had visited the noam.aprs2.net url looking for the port number but did not find any reference to APRS,   The website appears to be the host for some form of HTTP server product called NGINX.
Bob G
KG6PJG


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

Rob Giuliano
 

To use simply KISS, you need to place the KPC3 in KISS mode by external means. There are a couple of apps out there and a batch file to place the KPC3 in KISS and start APRSIS32   Then when you exit APRSIS32, it will send the commands to take the KPC3 out of KISS mode.

I am not near my computer to find those bstch files and apps.  There must be an old thread with the info on them.


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 7:26 PM, James Ewen
<ve6srv@...> wrote:
Like Brian said, your TNC will need to be in KISS mode when your start APRSISCE/32. 

It sounds like it is not in KISS mode. 

BTW, I waved when I went past your house last Tuesday. 🤪

James
VE6SRV

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:59 PM Brian Webster via groups.io <radiowebst=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

If your TNC is not already in kiss mode then the port probably won’t work.

 

Brian N2KGC

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of ve6frc@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:13 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] RX/TX From radio/tnc

 

 Made a new port using Simply kiss, no luck there James and long time no talk.

--
James
VE6SRV


Re: Igate setup

Alder Kail
 

Alright, I got everything set up and running. Using an object for weather reporting under the same SSID and same location, it seems to be working correctly? Hopefully. It gave me a warning when I set it up that way but I can't really see any malfunctions. So far the gate as uploaded some traffic (Including my own) And that's great! As far as setting the server to noam.aprs2.net I have no clue where to set this, I've searched through all the options and I just am unsure. Thanks for the very helpful comment though! I greatly appreciate it. 
Ian KI5IBL


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

James Ewen
 

Like Brian said, your TNC will need to be in KISS mode when your start APRSISCE/32. 

It sounds like it is not in KISS mode. 

BTW, I waved when I went past your house last Tuesday. 🤪

James
VE6SRV

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:59 PM Brian Webster via groups.io <radiowebst=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

If your TNC is not already in kiss mode then the port probably won’t work.

 

Brian N2KGC

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of ve6frc@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:13 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] RX/TX From radio/tnc

 

 Made a new port using Simply kiss, no luck there James and long time no talk.

--
James
VE6SRV


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

Brian Webster
 

If your TNC is not already in kiss mode then the port probably won’t work.

 

Brian N2KGC

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of ve6frc@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:13 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] RX/TX From radio/tnc

 

 Made a new port using Simply kiss, no luck there James and long time no talk.


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

ve6frc@...
 

Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:35:07.987 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:35:08.227 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:36:08.089 Terminating after 60102 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:36:08.089 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:36:08.114 Restarting Reader...
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:36:08.114 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:36:08.114 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:36:08.114 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:36:08.353 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:37:08.216 Terminating after 60101 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:37:08.216 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:37:08.240 Restarting Reader...
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:37:08.240 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:37:08.241 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:37:08.241 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:37:08.481 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:38:08.344 Terminating after 60103 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:38:08.344 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:38:08.368 Restarting Reader...
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:38:08.368 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:38:08.368 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:38:08.368 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:38:08.608 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:39:08.470 Terminating after 60101 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:39:08.470 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:39:08.494 Restarting Reader...
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:39:08.494 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:39:08.494 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:39:08.494 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:39:08.740 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:40:08.602 Terminating after 60108 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:40:08.602 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:40:08.626 Restarting Reader...
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:40:08.626 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:40:08.626 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:40:08.626 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:40:08.873 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:08.736 Terminating after 60109 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:08.736 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:08.760 Restarting Reader...
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:08.760 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:08.760 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:08.760 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:08.998 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
WinMain:2020-08-05T18:41:15.465 Stopping Port(VHF 2)
WinMain:2020-08-05T18:41:15.465 Waiting at line 742
WinMain:2020-08-05T18:41:15.566 Waiting at line 742
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:15.616 Terminating after 6856 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:15.616 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:15.640 Reader Exiting
WinMain:2020-08-05T18:41:15.666 Starting Port(VHF 2)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:15.666 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:15.666 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:15.666 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:41:15.911 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:42:15.774 Terminating after 60107 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:42:15.774 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:42:15.798 Restarting Reader...
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:42:15.798 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:42:15.798 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:42:15.798 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:42:16.040 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:43:15.902 Terminating after 60104 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:43:15.902 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:43:15.926 Restarting Reader...
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:43:15.926 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:43:15.926 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:43:15.926 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:43:16.167 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:44:16.030 Terminating after 60102 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:44:16.030 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:44:16.053 Restarting Reader...
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:44:16.053 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:44:16.053 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:44:16.053 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:44:16.294 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:45:16.156 Terminating after 60102 msec vs 60000 Quiet
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:45:16.156 Closing COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:45:16.180 Restarting Reader...
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:45:16.180 CpReader Running on COM5:4800,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:45:16.180 Opening COM5:4800,N,8,1
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:45:16.180 Opening COM5 with 4 Args
Port(VHF 2):2020-08-05T18:45:16.423 Opened COM5:4800,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Log using Simply kiss with negative results


APRS

Michael McNamara
 

I am using an FTM100DE and a Kantronics PLC 3 plus. My question is what program do I need to download in order to configure and use it with APRS.

Mike
N3MRM


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

ve6frc@...
 

 Made a new port using Simply kiss, no luck there James and long time no talk.


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

James Ewen
 

The log file says you are using the Kenwood port type. Your TNC will not respond to Kenwood TNC commands. 

Use the simply KISS interface. 

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:06 PM <ve6frc@...> wrote:
And negative on Putty connecting to TNC from APRSIS 32 machine.

--
James
VE6SRV


Re: RX/TX From radio/tnc

ve6frc@...
 

And negative on Putty connecting to TNC from APRSIS 32 machine.


Re: Igate setup

Brian Webster
 

ALL aprs server respond to the standard port numbers. It’s part of the server software. You will want to connect to port 145980 and then send a message to “server” to set up your port filters. Some programs do this automatically when you connect to the server on port 14580. Part of the setup screen has a filter option you can input. For instance if you add the filter m/250, you will only get data from the stream that is 250 kilometers radius from your reported location. You probably don’t want the full aprs IS stream.

 

Here are some pages that describe the filters and syntax:

http://www.aprs-is.net/javAPRSFilter.aspx

http://www.cx2sa.org/texts/en-aprsfilters.html

http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/JAVaprsFilters.htm

 

Brian N2KGC

 

From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob German
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:46 PM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Igate setup

 

Lynn,

Thanks for the info.  I had visited the noam.aprs2.net url looking for the port number but did not find any reference to APRS,   The website appears to be the host for some form of HTTP server product called NGINX.

Bob G

KG6PJG

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