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Re: APRSIS Pass through GPS feed broken with Kenwood D710A

Bruce Coates
 

Hi

This symptom first appeared in the July 17 2017 release of the development version and was present all subsequent versions.  The February 10 2017 was the last development version where the D710 passthrough worked.

In my case I'm running my D710 in APRS mode and it outputs the GPS data about every 2 seconds in the format of $PKWDPOS.  For me, my NMEA.logs file shows "Unrecognized Talker" each time it receives one of these string.

73, Bruce - VE5BNC


Re: APRSIS Pass through GPS feed broken with Kenwood D710A

ve6tdx
 

Hi all.

I have the same problem after installing the new software.

I had to un-install the new version and put the old one on the computer and it worked fine.

So it is not the settings for the old one works fine, but so soon I tried to update to the new version the through-put

Is not working any more.

So back to the old version again.

Thanks.

Adrian VE6TDX

 

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From: Anthony Mascola via groups.io
Sent: May 16, 2020 7:39 AM
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] APRSIS Pass through GPS feed broken with Kenwood D710A

 

I’ve confirmed the COM port settings are good.  APRSIS32 opens the TNC properly and I can see all of the stations I hear post onto the map and into the scrolling list I see their call signs appear as I hear each packet arrive.  Their position data and pacs are fine via RF.  The only thing missing is my personal GPS feed.  My speed and location are not passing from the transceiver to the software.  It says I have no fix even when I do have a good fix.  The speed doesn’t change and shows a dash even when I am moving.  If I try to beacon It tells me it won’t beacon until I get a fix even though on the D710 itself my position and speed indicate the GPS is working properly.  If I run APRS without using APRSis32 it works normally.  I’ve tried now with the Bluetooth serial adapter removed to eliminate that variable Using the RT systems cable and it still doesn’t pass my GPS information to the software somehow ...



On May 16, 2020, at 05:35, Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) <f.hillhouse.jr@...> wrote:



Reread your email. I still comparing settings is valid. I had trouble with Bluetooth adapters working most of the time rather than all the time. I found Bluetooth to be a frustrating endeavor. 

 

Fred N7FMH 

 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 8:30 AM Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) via groups.io <f.hillhouse.jr=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

When passing data (of any type) through an RS232/USB adapter, the number one issue tends to be a change in COM port. Look at your port settings in APRSIS32 and compare with you device settings in Windows.

 

Fred N7FMH 

 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 1:00 AM Anthony Mascola via groups.io <a_mascola=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

My GPS pass through broke also recently.  I used to see my position and speed continuously on the APRSIS32 display in my Jeep though it was not always reliable. I used to be able to uninstall APRSIS32 and it would run for a time.  Now it consistently does not work at all

Configured Port: D710 APRS port configured to serial cable COM Port and checking GPS.  It's no longer working
Transceiver: Kenwood D710A
GPS: K6VHF GPS attached to operation panel of D710A (note as above the D710A does not have a built in GPS.  Note you do not configure this GPS unit as an NMEA GPS port on the same COM port as the transceiver.  It is intended to pass through the data through the COM port combining the TNC controls and GPS positioning data
Serial connection to computer: RT systems serial to USB cable or US Converters Blutronium serial to bluetooth dongle - neither work to pass through GPS data anymore
Computer: Toshiba WT8-A32 Windows 10 tablet, Fujitsu T902 laptop- neither receive GPS passthrough data anymore, both did previously

Is anyone running a D710A with an attached GPS unit such as the Greenlight labs, K6VHF or other and able to get pass through GPS to APRSIS32 as before?  I can beacon and run APRS fine from the Kenwood showing my speed and GPS coordinates accurately and know GPS is working properly.  Somehow something has changed that does not allow APRSIS32 to see and pass through this information as before.  I have spent hours and hours trying to get this working again...

 


Re: APRSIS Pass through GPS feed broken with Kenwood D710A

Anthony Mascola
 

I emailed the XML file as well as my notes for how I installed the software.  I recall being instructed to be sure to use the D710 APRS12 mode to maximize the ability for the transceiver to decode the packets and display information as well as the software to show the locations graphically.  I don't know if this was from Julian Moss's video or from the yahoo groups messages.  I will try to find the reference.   I recall this working for a long time but sporadically and now not at all.  Previously I would have to uninstall the software and reinstall using the above procedure to see my position and speed again and it would work for awhile and then stop working.  I was never sure why this was happening.  I sure would love to see a moving map display and have been trying on and off for a few years to get this running reliably and am not sure why I can't get it running consistently.  I sure appreciate all of the hard work you have put into this and sure hope I can get my Jeep running consistently as several of the Dad's in our scout troop want to use this to track our vehicles on the overlanding campouts if we can get this working.
Sincerely,
Anthony Mascola
KJ6OKV

On Saturday, May 16, 2020, 12:37:49 PM PDT, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:


Please e-mail your APRSIS32.XML file to KJ4ERJ@....  Or dig into it and find your <Open/CloseCmd>s for that port.  I suspect it isn't properly telling the D710 to send NMEA data out the serial port.

Are you running KISS (which doesn't support NMEA from the D710), APRS (which I don't remember) or Packet (which I know does) mode on your D710 port in APRSIS32?


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/16/2020 9:38 AM, Anthony Mascola via groups.io wrote:
I’ve confirmed the COM port settings are good.  APRSIS32 opens the TNC properly and I can see all of the stations I hear post onto the map and into the scrolling list I see their call signs appear as I hear each packet arrive.  Their position data and pacs are fine via RF.  The only thing missing is my personal GPS feed.  My speed and location are not passing from the transceiver to the software.  It says I have no fix even when I do have a good fix.  The speed doesn’t change and shows a dash even when I am moving.  If I try to beacon It tells me it won’t beacon until I get a fix even though on the D710 itself my position and speed indicate the GPS is working properly.  If I run APRS without using APRSis32 it works normally.  I’ve tried now with the Bluetooth serial adapter removed to eliminate that variable Using the RT systems cable and it still doesn’t pass my GPS information to the software somehow ...


On May 16, 2020, at 05:35, Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) <f.hillhouse.jr@...> wrote:


Reread your email. I still comparing settings is valid. I had trouble with Bluetooth adapters working most of the time rather than all the time. I found Bluetooth to be a frustrating endeavor. 

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 8:30 AM Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) via groups.io <f.hillhouse.jr=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
When passing data (of any type) through an RS232/USB adapter, the number one issue tends to be a change in COM port. Look at your port settings in APRSIS32 and compare with you device settings in Windows.

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 1:00 AM Anthony Mascola via groups.io <a_mascola=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My GPS pass through broke also recently.  I used to see my position and speed continuously on the APRSIS32 display in my Jeep though it was not always reliable. I used to be able to uninstall APRSIS32 and it would run for a time.  Now it consistently does not work at all

Configured Port: D710 APRS port configured to serial cable COM Port and checking GPS.  It's no longer working
Transceiver: Kenwood D710A
GPS: K6VHF GPS attached to operation panel of D710A (note as above the D710A does not have a built in GPS.  Note you do not configure this GPS unit as an NMEA GPS port on the same COM port as the transceiver.  It is intended to pass through the data through the COM port combining the TNC controls and GPS positioning data
Serial connection to computer: RT systems serial to USB cable or US Converters Blutronium serial to bluetooth dongle - neither work to pass through GPS data anymore
Computer: Toshiba WT8-A32 Windows 10 tablet, Fujitsu T902 laptop- neither receive GPS passthrough data anymore, both did previously

Is anyone running a D710A with an attached GPS unit such as the Greenlight labs, K6VHF or other and able to get pass through GPS to APRSIS32 as before?  I can beacon and run APRS fine from the Kenwood showing my speed and GPS coordinates accurately and know GPS is working properly.  Somehow something has changed that does not allow APRSIS32 to see and pass through this information as before.  I have spent hours and hours trying to get this working again...


Re: APRSIS Pass through GPS feed broken with Kenwood D710A

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Please e-mail your APRSIS32.XML file to KJ4ERJ@....  Or dig into it and find your <Open/CloseCmd>s for that port.  I suspect it isn't properly telling the D710 to send NMEA data out the serial port.

Are you running KISS (which doesn't support NMEA from the D710), APRS (which I don't remember) or Packet (which I know does) mode on your D710 port in APRSIS32?


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/16/2020 9:38 AM, Anthony Mascola via groups.io wrote:
I’ve confirmed the COM port settings are good.  APRSIS32 opens the TNC properly and I can see all of the stations I hear post onto the map and into the scrolling list I see their call signs appear as I hear each packet arrive.  Their position data and pacs are fine via RF.  The only thing missing is my personal GPS feed.  My speed and location are not passing from the transceiver to the software.  It says I have no fix even when I do have a good fix.  The speed doesn’t change and shows a dash even when I am moving.  If I try to beacon It tells me it won’t beacon until I get a fix even though on the D710 itself my position and speed indicate the GPS is working properly.  If I run APRS without using APRSis32 it works normally.  I’ve tried now with the Bluetooth serial adapter removed to eliminate that variable Using the RT systems cable and it still doesn’t pass my GPS information to the software somehow ...


On May 16, 2020, at 05:35, Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) <f.hillhouse.jr@...> wrote:


Reread your email. I still comparing settings is valid. I had trouble with Bluetooth adapters working most of the time rather than all the time. I found Bluetooth to be a frustrating endeavor. 

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 8:30 AM Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) via groups.io <f.hillhouse.jr=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
When passing data (of any type) through an RS232/USB adapter, the number one issue tends to be a change in COM port. Look at your port settings in APRSIS32 and compare with you device settings in Windows.

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 1:00 AM Anthony Mascola via groups.io <a_mascola=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My GPS pass through broke also recently.  I used to see my position and speed continuously on the APRSIS32 display in my Jeep though it was not always reliable. I used to be able to uninstall APRSIS32 and it would run for a time.  Now it consistently does not work at all

Configured Port: D710 APRS port configured to serial cable COM Port and checking GPS.  It's no longer working
Transceiver: Kenwood D710A
GPS: K6VHF GPS attached to operation panel of D710A (note as above the D710A does not have a built in GPS.  Note you do not configure this GPS unit as an NMEA GPS port on the same COM port as the transceiver.  It is intended to pass through the data through the COM port combining the TNC controls and GPS positioning data
Serial connection to computer: RT systems serial to USB cable or US Converters Blutronium serial to bluetooth dongle - neither work to pass through GPS data anymore
Computer: Toshiba WT8-A32 Windows 10 tablet, Fujitsu T902 laptop- neither receive GPS passthrough data anymore, both did previously

Is anyone running a D710A with an attached GPS unit such as the Greenlight labs, K6VHF or other and able to get pass through GPS to APRSIS32 as before?  I can beacon and run APRS fine from the Kenwood showing my speed and GPS coordinates accurately and know GPS is working properly.  Somehow something has changed that does not allow APRSIS32 to see and pass through this information as before.  I have spent hours and hours trying to get this working again...


Re: APRSIS Pass through GPS feed broken with Kenwood D710A

Rob Giuliano
 

I can't speak to the D710, but I have used GPS passthrough on a KISS port.
I dId not check the latest release, but with earlier May 2020 releases it was working.


If the D710 data is still "getting through", but the GPS data is not, I'd suggest:
   1. Enable logging for the D710 RF port <Menu> <Enables> <Logging> <port({D710})  (replace {D710} with your port name).
       You should see NMEA sentences within the log.  If you do, check APRSIS32 GPS viewing settings:
         a) GPS enabled checked in the Port setting box - yes double check
         b) <Menu> <Enables> <GPS Enabled>      When set you should see extra lines at the bottom and direction and speed - top left
         c) <Menu> <Configure> <Screen> <Speed Font Size> for speed above the APRS and port status.

   2. If no NMEA data is seen in the port log, try a terminal program (like TeraTerm). 
       If no GPS data is seen, then the D710 isn't sending.
       If you see GPS Data in a Terminal program, but not in the port log, then Lynn can help troubleshoot - beyond me!

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Saturday, May 16, 2020, 8:35:18 AM EDT, Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) <f.hillhouse.jr@...> wrote:


Reread your email. I still comparing settings is valid. I had trouble with Bluetooth adapters working most of the time rather than all the time. I found Bluetooth to be a frustrating endeavor. 

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 8:30 AM Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) via groups.io <f.hillhouse.jr=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
When passing data (of any type) through an RS232/USB adapter, the number one issue tends to be a change in COM port. Look at your port settings in APRSIS32 and compare with you device settings in Windows.

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 1:00 AM Anthony Mascola via groups.io <a_mascola=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My GPS pass through broke also recently.  I used to see my position and speed continuously on the APRSIS32 display in my Jeep though it was not always reliable. I used to be able to uninstall APRSIS32 and it would run for a time.  Now it consistently does not work at all

Configured Port: D710 APRS port configured to serial cable COM Port and checking GPS.  It's no longer working
Transceiver: Kenwood D710A
GPS: K6VHF GPS attached to operation panel of D710A (note as above the D710A does not have a built in GPS.  Note you do not configure this GPS unit as an NMEA GPS port on the same COM port as the transceiver.  It is intended to pass through the data through the COM port combining the TNC controls and GPS positioning data
Serial connection to computer: RT systems serial to USB cable or US Converters Blutronium serial to bluetooth dongle - neither work to pass through GPS data anymore
Computer: Toshiba WT8-A32 Windows 10 tablet, Fujitsu T902 laptop- neither receive GPS passthrough data anymore, both did previously

Is anyone running a D710A with an attached GPS unit such as the Greenlight labs, K6VHF or other and able to get pass through GPS to APRSIS32 as before?  I can beacon and run APRS fine from the Kenwood showing my speed and GPS coordinates accurately and know GPS is working properly.  Somehow something has changed that does not allow APRSIS32 to see and pass through this information as before.  I have spent hours and hours trying to get this working again...


Re: APRSIS Pass through GPS feed broken with Kenwood D710A

Anthony Mascola
 

I’ve confirmed the COM port settings are good.  APRSIS32 opens the TNC properly and I can see all of the stations I hear post onto the map and into the scrolling list I see their call signs appear as I hear each packet arrive.  Their position data and pacs are fine via RF.  The only thing missing is my personal GPS feed.  My speed and location are not passing from the transceiver to the software.  It says I have no fix even when I do have a good fix.  The speed doesn’t change and shows a dash even when I am moving.  If I try to beacon It tells me it won’t beacon until I get a fix even though on the D710 itself my position and speed indicate the GPS is working properly.  If I run APRS without using APRSis32 it works normally.  I’ve tried now with the Bluetooth serial adapter removed to eliminate that variable Using the RT systems cable and it still doesn’t pass my GPS information to the software somehow ...


On May 16, 2020, at 05:35, Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) <f.hillhouse.jr@...> wrote:


Reread your email. I still comparing settings is valid. I had trouble with Bluetooth adapters working most of the time rather than all the time. I found Bluetooth to be a frustrating endeavor. 

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 8:30 AM Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) via groups.io <f.hillhouse.jr=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
When passing data (of any type) through an RS232/USB adapter, the number one issue tends to be a change in COM port. Look at your port settings in APRSIS32 and compare with you device settings in Windows.

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 1:00 AM Anthony Mascola via groups.io <a_mascola=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My GPS pass through broke also recently.  I used to see my position and speed continuously on the APRSIS32 display in my Jeep though it was not always reliable. I used to be able to uninstall APRSIS32 and it would run for a time.  Now it consistently does not work at all

Configured Port: D710 APRS port configured to serial cable COM Port and checking GPS.  It's no longer working
Transceiver: Kenwood D710A
GPS: K6VHF GPS attached to operation panel of D710A (note as above the D710A does not have a built in GPS.  Note you do not configure this GPS unit as an NMEA GPS port on the same COM port as the transceiver.  It is intended to pass through the data through the COM port combining the TNC controls and GPS positioning data
Serial connection to computer: RT systems serial to USB cable or US Converters Blutronium serial to bluetooth dongle - neither work to pass through GPS data anymore
Computer: Toshiba WT8-A32 Windows 10 tablet, Fujitsu T902 laptop- neither receive GPS passthrough data anymore, both did previously

Is anyone running a D710A with an attached GPS unit such as the Greenlight labs, K6VHF or other and able to get pass through GPS to APRSIS32 as before?  I can beacon and run APRS fine from the Kenwood showing my speed and GPS coordinates accurately and know GPS is working properly.  Somehow something has changed that does not allow APRSIS32 to see and pass through this information as before.  I have spent hours and hours trying to get this working again...


Re: APRSIS Pass through GPS feed broken with Kenwood D710A

Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes)
 

Reread your email. I still comparing settings is valid. I had trouble with Bluetooth adapters working most of the time rather than all the time. I found Bluetooth to be a frustrating endeavor. 

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 8:30 AM Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes) via groups.io <f.hillhouse.jr=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
When passing data (of any type) through an RS232/USB adapter, the number one issue tends to be a change in COM port. Look at your port settings in APRSIS32 and compare with you device settings in Windows.

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 1:00 AM Anthony Mascola via groups.io <a_mascola=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My GPS pass through broke also recently.  I used to see my position and speed continuously on the APRSIS32 display in my Jeep though it was not always reliable. I used to be able to uninstall APRSIS32 and it would run for a time.  Now it consistently does not work at all

Configured Port: D710 APRS port configured to serial cable COM Port and checking GPS.  It's no longer working
Transceiver: Kenwood D710A
GPS: K6VHF GPS attached to operation panel of D710A (note as above the D710A does not have a built in GPS.  Note you do not configure this GPS unit as an NMEA GPS port on the same COM port as the transceiver.  It is intended to pass through the data through the COM port combining the TNC controls and GPS positioning data
Serial connection to computer: RT systems serial to USB cable or US Converters Blutronium serial to bluetooth dongle - neither work to pass through GPS data anymore
Computer: Toshiba WT8-A32 Windows 10 tablet, Fujitsu T902 laptop- neither receive GPS passthrough data anymore, both did previously

Is anyone running a D710A with an attached GPS unit such as the Greenlight labs, K6VHF or other and able to get pass through GPS to APRSIS32 as before?  I can beacon and run APRS fine from the Kenwood showing my speed and GPS coordinates accurately and know GPS is working properly.  Somehow something has changed that does not allow APRSIS32 to see and pass through this information as before.  I have spent hours and hours trying to get this working again...


Re: APRSIS Pass through GPS feed broken with Kenwood D710A

Fred Hillhouse Jr (CruelShoes)
 

When passing data (of any type) through an RS232/USB adapter, the number one issue tends to be a change in COM port. Look at your port settings in APRSIS32 and compare with you device settings in Windows.

Fred N7FMH 

On Sat, May 16, 2020, 1:00 AM Anthony Mascola via groups.io <a_mascola=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My GPS pass through broke also recently.  I used to see my position and speed continuously on the APRSIS32 display in my Jeep though it was not always reliable. I used to be able to uninstall APRSIS32 and it would run for a time.  Now it consistently does not work at all

Configured Port: D710 APRS port configured to serial cable COM Port and checking GPS.  It's no longer working
Transceiver: Kenwood D710A
GPS: K6VHF GPS attached to operation panel of D710A (note as above the D710A does not have a built in GPS.  Note you do not configure this GPS unit as an NMEA GPS port on the same COM port as the transceiver.  It is intended to pass through the data through the COM port combining the TNC controls and GPS positioning data
Serial connection to computer: RT systems serial to USB cable or US Converters Blutronium serial to bluetooth dongle - neither work to pass through GPS data anymore
Computer: Toshiba WT8-A32 Windows 10 tablet, Fujitsu T902 laptop- neither receive GPS passthrough data anymore, both did previously

Is anyone running a D710A with an attached GPS unit such as the Greenlight labs, K6VHF or other and able to get pass through GPS to APRSIS32 as before?  I can beacon and run APRS fine from the Kenwood showing my speed and GPS coordinates accurately and know GPS is working properly.  Somehow something has changed that does not allow APRSIS32 to see and pass through this information as before.  I have spent hours and hours trying to get this working again...


Re: APRSIS Pass through GPS feed broken with Kenwood D710A

Anthony Mascola
 

My GPS pass through broke also recently.  I used to see my position and speed continuously on the APRSIS32 display in my Jeep though it was not always reliable. I used to be able to uninstall APRSIS32 and it would run for a time.  Now it consistently does not work at all

Configured Port: D710 APRS port configured to serial cable COM Port and checking GPS.  It's no longer working
Transceiver: Kenwood D710A
GPS: K6VHF GPS attached to operation panel of D710A (note as above the D710A does not have a built in GPS.  Note you do not configure this GPS unit as an NMEA GPS port on the same COM port as the transceiver.  It is intended to pass through the data through the COM port combining the TNC controls and GPS positioning data
Serial connection to computer: RT systems serial to USB cable or US Converters Blutronium serial to bluetooth dongle - neither work to pass through GPS data anymore
Computer: Toshiba WT8-A32 Windows 10 tablet, Fujitsu T902 laptop- neither receive GPS passthrough data anymore, both did previously

Is anyone running a D710A with an attached GPS unit such as the Greenlight labs, K6VHF or other and able to get pass through GPS to APRSIS32 as before?  I can beacon and run APRS fine from the Kenwood showing my speed and GPS coordinates accurately and know GPS is working properly.  Somehow something has changed that does not allow APRSIS32 to see and pass through this information as before.  I have spent hours and hours trying to get this working again...


Open Tracker

Curtis Barmes
 

Thank you to all who helped! Problem solved.

For those interested:

Problem was moving from XP computer to Windows 10. Everything seemed fine except Open Tracker had the message "Open Tracker Open"

Thanks to help from this group, I found that Windows 10 had COM1 at 19,200 BAUD. Changed that to 1200 BAUD, restarted everything and now it's "Open Tracker OK"

This is a great group. Solved in less than a day!

Curt N9CEB


Re: map changes

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Interspersed comment below...

On 5/15/2020 12:57 PM, Arnold Harding. - KQ6DI wrote:
Lynn,
Are all / any of these map changes going to break what I already have?  I have Thunder Landscape working fine, but it sounds like all of my map stuff is going to get scrambled.  Since I don't know what Meta/MB tiles are, it's a bit of a worry.

The plan is to continue to support file-system-based tile storage for the foreseeable future.  It's just really space-wise inefficient and hard to copy/move/share with others.  So you can rest easy knowing that I try not to be that short-sighted!


So if you could just give a simple explanation of what the Meta/MB file structure changes are going to destroy in my current tile file structure system, it would be nice.

That's a good idea.  I'll have to cobble up a Wiki explanation page once I figure out what the final look will be.  I'm hoping that all NEW Tile Sets will be created with MBTiles databases rather than file-system-based storage.  Only existing (and non-migrated, see e-mail about Migrate) Tile Sets will continue to use the individual tile files.


By the way, the 2020/05/14 10:48 version takes a lot longer to exit/close the program than anything previous.  I just timed closing the program at 11 seconds after I hit "Really close?  YES".  And that's after only having the program running for 15 seconds.

That is worrisome.  Do you have any *.dmz or *.dmp files showing up in the runtime directory?  It almost sounds like it's dumping itself during the exit.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Arnold, KQ6DI


Re: https maps (Dev: 2020/05/14 23:14)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

The plan is that the "Migrate" button will scan through the legacy directory-based tiles and load them into an associated MBTiles file.  If the tile is already in the database, it will only be loaded if the file's revision date is later than the load date in the database.  At the end of the migration, I plan to ask if you want to keep the files or have them deleted for you.

Sound like a good plan?  Now I just have to implement it!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/15/2020 10:24 AM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:
Added teaser "Migrate" button to non-MBTiles-backed tile sets.

This mean I can retain the old file structure for the tiles? Or migrate old into new?

Fred N7FMH



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map changes

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

Lynn,
Are all / any of these map changes going to break what I already have?  I have Thunder Landscape working fine, but it sounds like all of my map stuff is going to get scrambled.  Since I don't know what Meta/MB tiles are, it's a bit of a worry.

So if you could just give a simple explanation of what the Meta/MB file structure changes are going to destroy in my current tile file structure system, it would be nice.

By the way, the 2020/05/14 10:48 version takes a lot longer to exit/close the program than anything previous.  I just timed closing the program at 11 seconds after I hit "Really close?  YES".  And that's after only having the program running for 15 seconds.

Arnold, KQ6DI


Re: https maps (Dev: 2020/05/14 23:14)

Fred Hillhouse
 

Added teaser "Migrate" button to non-MBTiles-backed tile sets.

This mean I can retain the old file structure for the tiles? Or migrate old into new?

Fred N7FMH



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https maps (Dev: 2020/05/14 23:14)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Support a new check-box "https://"; in the upper right corner of the Tile Set configuration dialog.  Yes, it works for non-MBTiles tile sets now!

Added teaser "Migrate" button to non-MBTiles-backed tile sets.

Added a new dialog for showing configuration of MBTiles-sourced (has a URLFormat metadata) Tile Sets.

Revamped some internal data structures around MBTiles to make them more dynamic and avoid opening multiple paths to a single MBTiles database.

Better handle server ports for http (80) and https (443).  There was an issue where a tile set would default to 80 but attempt to use the https protocol which continually failed.  A Port of zero (0) will select the proper default for the URL's protocol.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS.  If you use the new https:// checkbox, you need to make sure you either specify a port of 0 or 443, not 80!


Re: Open Tracker

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Actually, the "Open" status means that APRSIS32 is trying to open the communication line to the TNC.  In this case, I suspect it's a serial port and it's no longer the same number as it was on the old machine.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/14/2020 8:11 PM, Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
The Yahoo group has moved and pretty much been has disolved.  It only stays somewhat open to catch stragglers.
Cross posting into Groups.IO. 

As I understand it, "OpenTracker Open" means it has not received feedback from the TNC indicating it can communicate.
The most common causes are:
1.  TNC in the wrong mode.  KISS is the most common
     If the TNC is not in KISS mode, but the RF port is KISS, the communication does not match.
2. <Open> commands are not working (typically used to set #1
3. Baud rate or port mismatch.


The quickest way to get help would be to use <Menu> <Enables> <Logging> port(Open Tracker)
  And see what his log says about what was sent, received, and kind of expected.

Join (move to) the aprsis32 => APRSISCE groups.io Group


Post your log info if you need more help.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, May 14, 2020, 7:37:30 PM EDT, curtis@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce-noreply@...> wrote:


I updated my computer from a netbook with XP to a notebook with Win 10.. All went fine.

I'm using the latest development version of APRSIS.

In the status window, it changes from APRSIS OK to Open Tracker Open. It used to say Open Tracker OK. I can't find any help in the documentation. I don't think it's transmitting. I get everything else, but in the station windows, there are no asterisks as there used to be.

Any ideas?

Curt  N9CEB



Re: Open Tracker

Mark, KE6BB
 

After years of using several Open Trackers (OT) and Tiny Traks (TT), I suspect the com port assignment in APRSIS32 doesn’t match the com port windows has assigned to the OT.  APRSIS32 is trying to open a port number that doesn’t exist, to is being used by a different program.  If you changed computers by copying the APRSIS32 directory from the old computer to the new one, you most certainly have a com port mismatch.

 

There are a couple of ways to approach this.   The most basic is to open Device Manager and check each of the port numbers listed in the “Ports (COM & LPT)”.  It is easiest to do with a terminal program (HYPERTerm came with windows for years, I like TeraTerm) trying each one until you find the one that works.  APRSIS32 MUST NOT BE RUNNING while doing this, or at least all the com ports must be disabled. Since you are using a new laptop which probably doesn’t have real serial ports,  I suspect you are using a USB to serial converter, OR the USB port of an OT-USB.  In that case it gets real easy to figure out the com port number you are using.  Simply unplug the USB cable and then plug it back in while watching the list of ports in Device Manager.  You will see the port number disappear and then reappear.

 

Once you  know which com port number windows has assigned to your com port, CLOSE THE TERMINAL PROGRAM, start up APRSIS32, click on Configure>Ports>Open Tracker (or what ever the port name is)>Device, select the com port number, and baud rate if it isn’t already filled in, be sure the ENABLES box is checked, then OK, and ACCEPT.

 

Caution, I feel a story coming on:

 

Occasionally I have had a problem where I just can’t get APRSIS32 and the computer to talk to each other for some unknown reason.  Had this problem a couple of years ago.  A friend was having the same trouble and called me for help.  I got on my computer, and strangely, my APRSIS32 instance was also having the problem.  “OT Open” kept flashing.  I opened the log as Rob has suggested, and it appeared to be a com port mismatch.  I worked with my friend for an hour or more, and all of a sudden when neither of us was actually changing anything, both of computers started to talk to the OT (he was using a slightly different TNC—can’t remember model, but it was sold by MFJ and is much like an OT) at the same time!  I can’t explain what happened, but my point is to keep trying.  I suspect I must have been leaving a terminal program open keeping the com port tied up,  or something like that, but both of us, making the same mistake on computers separated by 30 miles and a range of 3000 foot high mountains??? Quantum entanglement?   Strange.

 

Mark,

KE6BB

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 05:11 PM
To: curtis@...; APRSISCE
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Open Tracker

 

The Yahoo group has moved and pretty much been has disolved.  It only stays somewhat open to catch stragglers.

Cross posting into Groups.IO. 

 

As I understand it, "OpenTracker Open" means it has not received feedback from the TNC indicating it can communicate.

The most common causes are:

1.  TNC in the wrong mode.  KISS is the most common

     If the TNC is not in KISS mode, but the RF port is KISS, the communication does not match.

2. <Open> commands are not working (typically used to set #1

3. Baud rate or port mismatch.

 

 

The quickest way to get help would be to use <Menu> <Enables> <Logging> port(Open Tracker)

  And see what his log says about what was sent, received, and kind of expected.

 

Join (move to) the aprsis32 => APRSISCE groups.io Group

 

 


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Post your log info if you need more help.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

 

 

On Thursday, May 14, 2020, 7:37:30 PM EDT, curtis@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce-noreply@...> wrote:

 

 

I updated my computer from a netbook with XP to a notebook with Win 10.. All went fine.

 

I'm using the latest development version of APRSIS.

 

In the status window, it changes from APRSIS OK to Open Tracker Open. It used to say Open Tracker OK. I can't find any help in the documentation. I don't think it's transmitting. I get everything else, but in the station windows, there are no asterisks as there used to be.

 

Any ideas?

 

Curt  N9CEB

 

 

 


Re: Open Tracker

Rob Giuliano
 

The Yahoo group has moved and pretty much been has disolved.  It only stays somewhat open to catch stragglers.
Cross posting into Groups.IO. 

As I understand it, "OpenTracker Open" means it has not received feedback from the TNC indicating it can communicate.
The most common causes are:
1.  TNC in the wrong mode.  KISS is the most common
     If the TNC is not in KISS mode, but the RF port is KISS, the communication does not match.
2. <Open> commands are not working (typically used to set #1
3. Baud rate or port mismatch.


The quickest way to get help would be to use <Menu> <Enables> <Logging> port(Open Tracker)
  And see what his log says about what was sent, received, and kind of expected.

Join (move to) the aprsis32 => APRSISCE groups.io Group


Post your log info if you need more help.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Thursday, May 14, 2020, 7:37:30 PM EDT, curtis@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce-noreply@...> wrote:


I updated my computer from a netbook with XP to a notebook with Win 10.. All went fine.

I'm using the latest development version of APRSIS.

In the status window, it changes from APRSIS OK to Open Tracker Open. It used to say Open Tracker OK. I can't find any help in the documentation. I don't think it's transmitting. I get everything else, but in the station windows, there are no asterisks as there used to be.

Any ideas?

Curt  N9CEB



Re: Tile Set Flushing #poll

Greg Depew
 

I use it after I have done an edit to OSM to make sure it went through. 



Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone



-------- Original message --------
From: Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
Date: 5/14/20 15:17 (GMT-05:00)
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Tile Set Flushing #poll

No, I guess I'm after those that use it for "real".  And there are positive answers already!  Cool.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE/32/MO/...


Re: Tile Set Flushing #poll

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

No, I guess I'm after those that use it for "real".  And there are positive answers already!  Cool.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE/32/MO/...

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