Re: Maps
ve6frc@...
Bingo!. Thanks for that tidbit.
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Re: Maps
Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
Maybe the Left or Right arrows ? They change the map contrast.
Arnold, KQ6DI
On March 23, 2020 at 9:24 AM ve6frc@... wrote:
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Maps
ve6frc@...
Hi All.
May seem to be a weird question,But my cat walked across my keyboard I think. My map has disappeared and only one that will show up is a Lat./Long. map. I have looked and can not find my original map. Help?.
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Re: Two way igate not working.
Lynn Deffenbaugh
Glad everything is working now. It's not a bother, ask away! Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/19/2020 12:36 PM, Justin
Cherington wrote:
That worked! Always appreciated. I will leave you alone now for a bit =)
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Re: Two way igate not working.
Justin Cherington
That worked! Always appreciated. I will leave you alone now for a bit =)
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Re: Two way igate not working.
Lynn Deffenbaugh
With the Frequency Monitor window visible, try unchecking the
checkmark. Or right click in the window and disable it from
there. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/19/2020 10:38 AM, Justin
Cherington wrote:
Thanks Lynn, I was able to get it working this morning. I sent a message via smsgte on my HT to my truck in the driveway that has the solar charged FTM400 and TNC3, which then gated it. Once the message was received on my phone I responded and the process reversed until it was displayed on the HT. Looking at the logs it went as it should. I appreciate the help.
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Re: Two way igate not working.
Justin Cherington
Thanks Lynn, I was able to get it working this morning. I sent a message via smsgte on my HT to my truck in the driveway that has the solar charged FTM400 and TNC3, which then gated it. Once the message was received on my phone I responded and the process reversed until it was displayed on the HT. Looking at the logs it went as it should. I appreciate the help.
*One more thing* I enabled frequency monitor and it will not turn off. There is a checkmark next to it but when I click again it just pulls up a stations frequency in a new window, but the checkmark remains. Even after closing the software and reopening it. Any advice?
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Re: Two way igate not working.
Justin Cherington
Yes the FTM400 without an external TNC is receive only. But with a TNC or some other interface it becomes just like any other radio. I’m not relying on it’s aprs modem.
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Re: Two way igate not working.
Justin Cherington
Thank you, I’ll give this a go tomorrow morning as it’s now raining here. I appreciate it.
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Re: Two way igate not working.
Lynn Deffenbaugh
That would be true if he was using an FTM-350 type port, but he's
got a KISS-mode TNC3 connected via audio to the radio if I read
the screen shots correctly. That was EXACTLY my first thought
until I looked more closely at his text and his pictures. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/18/2020 4:54 PM, andy robeson
wrote:
I think you will find this is down to the FTM400. I believe that the radio is RX & TX for APRS, but if you want to pass to and from a pc it’s only radio to pc. Not pc to radio.
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Re: Two way igate not working.
Lynn Deffenbaugh
I assume you're looking for messages to gate from -IS to RF, not arbitrary packets. With that said, APRSIS32 will only gate a message for a station under the following conditions: 1) The APRS-IS feed delivers such a message to APRSIS32. This SHOULD be automatic if you're connected to 14580 on an APRS-IS server that is consuming a full feed on the other end and IF the following conditions have been met. 2) A packet has been received from the station addressed in the message "recently" and "near enough". You can see which stations meet this criteria if you do a View / None followed by a View / RF / Local. Any station that shows up there are eligible to have messages gated to them. Or you can send a ?APRSL message which will respond back with a list of stations which are considered "Local". Yes, you can send this message to yourself in your APRSIS32 IGate instance. I believe there are several Trace Logs that can provide additional information. Look for logs called IGate and IGate(NOT), especially the latter as it will show why a message was NOT gated to RF. Bring up the Trace Log and ensure that you have Enabled it and THEN try getting a message to a local RF station from the APRS-IS. BTW, the way I usually test is with an HT, I'll send a message to "ISS" (without the quotes) and see if I get the auto-response back. If you're not familiar with the SATSRV, read http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:satsrv Or send an APRS station ID (callsign-SSID like KJ4ERJ-12) to
"QRZ" (again without the quotes and see what comes back. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/18/2020 4:00 PM, Justin Cherington
wrote:
Hi everyone. I am using an FTM400 radio connected to a Mobilinkd TNC3, which is communicating to APRSIS32 developer version on a windows 10 laptop via Bluetooth. I have successfully ran this setup as a fill in digipeater and it works beautifully, as does using it as an rx igate. For some reason it refuses to be a two way igate though. I'll post some screenshots of everything that is setup but here it is in text format: TNC3 port activated and working on all other ways, APRS-IS enabled, Internet enabled,RF to IS and IS to RF boxes checked. I also have these checked under the TNC3 port options: Enabled, Bulletin/Obj, Messages, Xmit Enable, Beacon, and Telemetry. Me not 3rd is unchecked.
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Re: Two way igate not working.
andy robeson
I think you will find this is down to the FTM400. I believe that the radio is RX & TX for APRS, but if you want to pass to and from a pc it’s only radio to pc. Not pc to radio.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Regards,
Andy Robeson
On 18 Mar 2020, at 20:05, Justin Cherington via Groups.Io <huntjlc@...> wrote:
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Two way igate not working.
Justin Cherington
Hi everyone. I am using an FTM400 radio connected to a Mobilinkd TNC3, which is communicating to APRSIS32 developer version on a windows 10 laptop via Bluetooth. I have successfully ran this setup as a fill in digipeater and it works beautifully, as does using it as an rx igate. For some reason it refuses to be a two way igate though. I'll post some screenshots of everything that is setup but here it is in text format: TNC3 port activated and working on all other ways, APRS-IS enabled, Internet enabled,RF to IS and IS to RF boxes checked. I also have these checked under the TNC3 port options: Enabled, Bulletin/Obj, Messages, Xmit Enable, Beacon, and Telemetry. Me not 3rd is unchecked.
I am on our local UHF APRS 1200 frequency now as it is more quiet, but I have run the Digi log all day and there might be 1000+ RF to IS lines, but never a single IS to RF. I have no filters setup by myself. I also tried to send an sms message via smsgte, it made it to my cell since my gate is working as an RX one, but of course I never got the reply back on my HT via my FTM400 50 yards away because it wont TX. And yes, aprs is setup and operates perfectly on my HT via other peoples igates when I am on the typical 144.39 frequency so I know it isn't a radio setting problem. Any help would be fantastic!!! And thank you in advance. Screen shots below:
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Re: APRSIS shutting down
Wayne Morris
I completed the changes for the development version and the program did download the update. I will be monitoring the status to see if it is better about staying up.
-- 73's, Wayne, AC5V
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WX files
Fred Hillhouse
APRS NWS Weather Info
Date: 3 March 2020 File: c_03mr20.zip Source: https://www.weather.gov/gis/Counties
Date: 02 April 2019 File: mz02ap19.zip Source: https://www.weather.gov/gis/MarineZones
Date: 10 October 2019 File: z_10oc19.zip Source: https://www.weather.gov/gis/PublicZones
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Re: Filter Out Objects
This also works:
-s//&a/DW turns Winlink Objects off and s//&a/DW turns Winlink Objects back on
Jerry N7YGE
From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 4:44 AM To: APRSISCE@groups.io Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Out Objects
Did I test it? Yes, that's why I mentioned that you could test it yourself if you used APRSIS32 which includes a filter test capability, but only in a positive sense. READ the definition of the s filter from the quoted page:
Note that PRIMARY table symbols go after the first FORWARD slash and alternate table (ones that can use overlays) go after the SECOND slash and the overlays go after the THIRD slash and are CaSe SeNsItIvE. So, if we look at one of the stations you want to get rid of, say N7LOB-10 at http://aprs.fi/N7LOB-10 and then click on the Raw Packets link, we see that they all come from WINLINK and look like:
But APRSIS32 makes this easier by showing: N7LOB-10 Note that the symbol is Wa. This means alternate table (since the first character isn't /) symbol a with an overlay of W. Finding one of the DSTAR objects is a bit trickier since they have an embedded space, but if you search for KB7ZEN* in aprs.fi's Raw Packets display, you get:
Which APRSIS32 kindly describes as: KB7ZEN B Which is the same alternate table a symbol with an overlay of D. So plugging alternate table with overlays D and W into the formula for the s filter, we get: s//a/DW When I put that filter into an APRSIS32 Filter Test window, I get LOTS of packets including: WinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:40.967 IS[Firenet](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [0]KB9MNM-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,KB9MNM-GS:;KB9MNM B *071230z4142.26ND08820.07Ea/A=000010RNG0001 440 Voice 445.60000MHz +0.0000MHzWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.026 IS[APRS-IS](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [1]KB9MNM-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,KB9MNM-GS:;KB9MNM B *071230z4142.26ND08820.07Ea/A=000010RNG0001 440 Voice 445.60000MHz +0.0000MHzWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.429 IS[APRS-IS](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [0]CN8IC-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,CN8IC-GS:;CN8IC B *071230z3534.20ND00522.20WaRNG0001 440 Voice 438.45000MHz -8.0000MHzWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.479 IS[Firenet](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [1]CN8IC-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,CN8IC-GS:;CN8IC B *071230z3534.20ND00522.20WaRNG0001 440 Voice 438.45000MHz -8.0000MHzWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.769 IS[Firenet](Hit(s//a/W (0x570161))) [0]WINLINK>APWL2K,TCPIP*,qAS,WLNK:;OE9XRK-10*071230z4716. NW00937. Ea438.000MHz 9600 R5m Winlink GatewayWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.771 IS[Firenet](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [0]DB0DJ-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,DB0DJ-GS:;DB0DJ A *021149z4852.70ND00830.45EaRNG0040 1.2 Voice 1298.575MHz -28MHzWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.794 IS[APRS-IS](Hit(s//a/W (0x570161))) [1]WINLINK>APWL2K,TCPIP*,qAS,WLNK:;OE9XRK-10*071230z4716. NW00937. Ea438.000MHz 9600 R5m Winlink GatewayWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.795 IS[APRS-IS](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [1]DB0DJ-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,DB0DJ-GS:;DB0DJ A *021149z4852.70ND00830.45EaRNG0040 1.2 Voice 1298.575MHz -28MHz Which kindly tells me that packets were hitting on both the D and W overlay characters which is confirmed if you use the aprs101.pdf to visually parse the packet data and find the symbol and overlay characters that match. Further, if I telnet to my local friendly APRS-IS server and set up that filter (see http://www.aprs-is.net/Connecting.aspx for instructions), I get the following packets: VK2RBV-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,VK2RBV-GS:;VK2RBV B *071233z3351.84SD15112.68EaRNG0050 440 Voice 438.77500MHz +5.0000MHzVA2REX-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,VA2REX-GS:;VA2REX AD*221404z4500.92ND07350.48WaRNG0020 1.2 Data 1248.50Mhz 128KVA2REX-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,VA2REX-GS:;VA2REX B *022035z4500.92ND07350.48WaRNG0040 440 Voice 448.325Mhz - 5MhzDO9MC-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,DO9MC-GS:;DO9MC B *071233z5145.32ND00800.88Ea/A=000010RNG0001 440 Voice 439.93750MHz -9.4000MHzWX4EMA-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,WX4EMA-GS:;WX4EMA C *061725z3250.15ND08337.97WaRNG0015 2m Voice 145.340 +0.600 MHzWINLINK>APWL2K,TCPIP*,qAS,WLNK:;VE7LAN-10*071233z4921. NW12257. Wa145.070MHz 1200 R5m Winlink GatewayF5ZLG-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,F5ZLG-GS:;F5ZLG B *061711z4334.90ND00129.98EaRNG0030 430 Voice 439.925 -9.4 MHzKN6BDP-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,KN6BDP-GS:;KN6BDP B *071233z5000.00ND00300.00WaRNG0001 440 Voice 438.80000MHz +0.0000MHz Which you can see (if you've studied aprs101.pdf and can visually parse packets) includes both the D and W overlays of the alternate table a symbol. So, yes, I've tested the recommended filter in the positive sense. Testing a negative filter is much harder in that you have to go through a large (I use planet-wide) stream of data and determine that the target packets are NOT present. So, my challenge to you is did YOU apply and test the negative form of the filter properly? What makes you believe it "did not work"? Is it possible that it DID work and SARTRACK is simply displaying stations that it heard before the negative filter was applied? Did SARTRACK truly apply the negative filter to the upstream APRS-IS server connection? And if you need help confirming those questions, please inquire on the SARTRACK support list as they are not APRS-general questions. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS. An alternat esymbol to get rid of all packets from WinLink would be -b/WINLINK or -u/APWL2K. For the DStar gateways, you could use -u/APDG* or -u/APDG01/APDG02. The trick to filtering APRS-IS is to deterine what common feature is shared by the target stations' packets and NOT shared by desired station packets.
On 3/7/2020 3:15 AM, Jerry N7YGE wrote:
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Re: APRSIS shutting down
Wayne Morris
OK, I am pretty sure it is the normal download. I will look into the developoment version tomorrow.
Thank you. -- 73's, Wayne, AC5V
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Re: Filter Out Objects
Fred Hillhouse
Greetings Lynn,
This is an awesome description! I have always had trouble wrapping my head around testing filters. I usually end up with what I want but it takes a while!
Best regards, Fred N7FMH
From: APRSISCE@groups.io [mailto:APRSISCE@groups.io] On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 7:44 AM To: APRSISCE@groups.io Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Filter Out Objects
Did I test it? Yes, that's why I mentioned that you could test it yourself if you used APRSIS32 which includes a filter test capability, but only in a positive sense. READ the definition of the s filter from the quoted page:
Note that PRIMARY table symbols go after the first FORWARD slash and alternate table (ones that can use overlays) go after the SECOND slash and the overlays go after the THIRD slash and are CaSe SeNsItIvE. So, if we look at one of the stations you want to get rid of, say N7LOB-10 at http://aprs.fi/N7LOB-10 and then click on the Raw Packets link, we see that they all come from WINLINK and look like:
But APRSIS32 makes this easier by showing: N7LOB-10 Note that the symbol is Wa. This means alternate table (since the first character isn't /) symbol a with an overlay of W. Finding one of the DSTAR objects is a bit trickier since they have an embedded space, but if you search for KB7ZEN* in aprs.fi's Raw Packets display, you get:
Which APRSIS32 kindly describes as: KB7ZEN B Which is the same alternate table a symbol with an overlay of D. So plugging alternate table with overlays D and W into the formula for the s filter, we get: s//a/DW When I put that filter into an APRSIS32 Filter Test window, I get LOTS of packets including: WinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:40.967 IS[Firenet](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [0]KB9MNM-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,KB9MNM-GS:;KB9MNM B *071230z4142.26ND08820.07Ea/A=000010RNG0001 440 Voice 445.60000MHz +0.0000MHzWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.026 IS[APRS-IS](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [1]KB9MNM-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,KB9MNM-GS:;KB9MNM B *071230z4142.26ND08820.07Ea/A=000010RNG0001 440 Voice 445.60000MHz +0.0000MHzWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.429 IS[APRS-IS](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [0]CN8IC-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,CN8IC-GS:;CN8IC B *071230z3534.20ND00522.20WaRNG0001 440 Voice 438.45000MHz -8.0000MHzWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.479 IS[Firenet](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [1]CN8IC-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,CN8IC-GS:;CN8IC B *071230z3534.20ND00522.20WaRNG0001 440 Voice 438.45000MHz -8.0000MHzWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.769 IS[Firenet](Hit(s//a/W (0x570161))) [0]WINLINK>APWL2K,TCPIP*,qAS,WLNK:;OE9XRK-10*071230z4716. NW00937. Ea438.000MHz 9600 R5m Winlink GatewayWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.771 IS[Firenet](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [0]DB0DJ-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,DB0DJ-GS:;DB0DJ A *021149z4852.70ND00830.45EaRNG0040 1.2 Voice 1298.575MHz -28MHzWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.794 IS[APRS-IS](Hit(s//a/W (0x570161))) [1]WINLINK>APWL2K,TCPIP*,qAS,WLNK:;OE9XRK-10*071230z4716. NW00937. Ea438.000MHz 9600 R5m Winlink GatewayWinMain:2020-03-07T12:30:41.795 IS[APRS-IS](Hit(s//a/D (0x440161))) [1]DB0DJ-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,DB0DJ-GS:;DB0DJ A *021149z4852.70ND00830.45EaRNG0040 1.2 Voice 1298.575MHz -28MHz Which kindly tells me that packets were hitting on both the D and W overlay characters which is confirmed if you use the aprs101.pdf to visually parse the packet data and find the symbol and overlay characters that match. Further, if I telnet to my local friendly APRS-IS server and set up that filter (see http://www.aprs-is.net/Connecting.aspx for instructions), I get the following packets: VK2RBV-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,VK2RBV-GS:;VK2RBV B *071233z3351.84SD15112.68EaRNG0050 440 Voice 438.77500MHz +5.0000MHzVA2REX-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,VA2REX-GS:;VA2REX AD*221404z4500.92ND07350.48WaRNG0020 1.2 Data 1248.50Mhz 128KVA2REX-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,VA2REX-GS:;VA2REX B *022035z4500.92ND07350.48WaRNG0040 440 Voice 448.325Mhz - 5MhzDO9MC-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,DO9MC-GS:;DO9MC B *071233z5145.32ND00800.88Ea/A=000010RNG0001 440 Voice 439.93750MHz -9.4000MHzWX4EMA-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,WX4EMA-GS:;WX4EMA C *061725z3250.15ND08337.97WaRNG0015 2m Voice 145.340 +0.600 MHzWINLINK>APWL2K,TCPIP*,qAS,WLNK:;VE7LAN-10*071233z4921. NW12257. Wa145.070MHz 1200 R5m Winlink GatewayF5ZLG-S>APJIO4,TCPIP*,qAC,F5ZLG-GS:;F5ZLG B *061711z4334.90ND00129.98EaRNG0030 430 Voice 439.925 -9.4 MHzKN6BDP-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,KN6BDP-GS:;KN6BDP B *071233z5000.00ND00300.00WaRNG0001 440 Voice 438.80000MHz +0.0000MHz Which you can see (if you've studied aprs101.pdf and can visually parse packets) includes both the D and W overlays of the alternate table a symbol. So, yes, I've tested the recommended filter in the positive sense. Testing a negative filter is much harder in that you have to go through a large (I use planet-wide) stream of data and determine that the target packets are NOT present. So, my challenge to you is did YOU apply and test the negative form of the filter properly? What makes you believe it "did not work"? Is it possible that it DID work and SARTRACK is simply displaying stations that it heard before the negative filter was applied? Did SARTRACK truly apply the negative filter to the upstream APRS-IS server connection? And if you need help confirming those questions, please inquire on the SARTRACK support list as they are not APRS-general questions. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS. An alternat esymbol to get rid of all packets from WinLink would be -b/WINLINK or -u/APWL2K. For the DStar gateways, you could use -u/APDG* or -u/APDG01/APDG02. The trick to filtering APRS-IS is to deterine what common feature is shared by the target stations' packets and NOT shared by desired station packets.
On 3/7/2020 3:15 AM, Jerry N7YGE wrote:
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Re: APRSIS shutting down
AE5IB (Kip)
I have had problems with my Windows 10 laptop using Winlink. Windows likes to shut down things when it thinks they are not used. It was shutting down the USB port to the TNC. Maybe you have a similar problem. Kip
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 8:35 AM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:
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Re: APRSIS shutting down
Lynn Deffenbaugh
What version of APRSIS32 does About show you? If it is the general release from 2012, there are certain packets that can cause it to crash. If you upgrade to the latest development version, your mysterious disappearance should quit happening. http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:development-version Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS. Yes, Bob W9BU, I'm considering
moving the current development version to general release before
diving back in to make more changes.
On 3/10/2020 9:28 AM, Wayne Morris
wrote:
Windows 10 but I have this program in the startup programs. I have verified that it autostarts when Windows boots. Windows is running but the program has stopped.
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