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Map fading

patrick lambert
 

Guys my map is fading. The object on the map are ok but in the background, the map is fading. I can see it but its almost all white. Any one have this problem? Thanks.

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Triggers (was: KAM-XL symbol)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

On 10/22/2019 11:02 AM, Julian wrote:


My question for a new thread is abt triggers in APRSIS, can events be triggered, an object (a defined repeater obj for ex) when a mobile station comes within RF range? Even more, can an event be triggered, a message, packet etc via IS or RF when a station comes in range of a particular area, a park, summit  etc?

APRSISCE/32 doesn't currently support triggers on anything, but I have it on my ToDo list.  In particular, I'd like a notification to pop up when my wife's van is approaching home!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Re: KAM-XL symbol

Julian
 


(Edited - syntax)
Hi Lynn. Great. Tnx. I did actually come across this page (symbols.htm), maybe a couple of years ago. I remember now. I went past swiftly over the SSID defined icons section, quickly erasing it off my mind. I was saying to myself, ah, nobody uses that anymore... A decision with a boomerang effect, of course.
My question for a new thread is abt triggers in APRSIS, can events be triggered, an object (a defined repeater obj for ex) when a mobile station comes within RF range? Even more, can an event be triggered, a message, packet etc via IS or RF when a station comes in range of a particular area, a park, summit  etc?
Regards, J, M0IPU YO3FCA

 


Re: KAM-XL symbol

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Please see http://www.aprs.net/vm/DOS/SYMBOLS.HTM which documents symbol standards based on the -SSID for when the APRS packet doesn't contain any symbol information.  This is also documented on page 93 in the APRS101.PDF specification.

Not all APRS client applications implement the full specification, but APRSIS32 does implement the symbol hierarchy.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/21/2019 1:33 PM, Julian wrote:

Hi Lynn. Tnx for coming back on this one. The stn is M0IPU-8, a setup I was playing with on my KAM-XL. I am attaching couple of pics anyway. Re Red Dot, I have also read your Wiki doc on the subject, but I believe aprs.fi uses it for current location on iconless... stns/GPGGA statements. I am not 100%. I didn't go through their help files.

Regards, J, M0IPU YO3FCA

Note: I believe the Yahoo group link needs to be updated on Wiki








Re: KAM-XL symbol (was: GPS Setup SOLVED)

Julian
 

Hi Randy. To be honest this is the 1st time I see this table, SSID defined icons!  I didn't realise icons can be defined by the SSID in APRS. This is very useful in my case, "pure" GPGGA statements. I'll need to polish my APRS skills... he he. I am assuming aprs.fi has not implemented this feature, probably stn status conflicts etc? Many thanks.
I have tried SSID -4; truly, APRSISCE shows a bicycle; red dot in aprs.fi
Regards and 73 de J, M0IPU YO3FCA


Re: KAM-XL symbol (was: GPS Setup SOLVED)

Randy Love
 

You're seeing a boat in APRSIS32 because the SSID -8 is a boat since there is no other indicator of symbol.
APRS.fi is defaulting it to a red dot tho..

From the APRS spec:
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73,
Randy
WF5X


On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:41 PM Julian <iulianp@...> wrote:

Hi Lynn. Tnx for coming back on this one. The stn is M0IPU-8, a setup I was playing with on my KAM-XL. I am attaching couple of pics anyway. Re Red Dot, I have also read your Wiki doc on the subject, but I believe aprs.fi uses it for current location on iconless... stns/GPGGA statements. I am not 100%. I didn't go through their help files.

Regards, J, M0IPU YO3FCA

Note: I believe the Yahoo group link needs to be updated on Wiki








Re: KAM-XL symbol (was: GPS Setup SOLVED)

Julian
 


Hi Lynn. Tnx for coming back on this one. The stn is M0IPU-8, a setup I was playing with on my KAM-XL. I am attaching couple of pics anyway. Re Red Dot, I have also read your Wiki doc on the subject, but I believe aprs.fi uses it for current location on iconless... stns/GPGGA statements. I am not 100%. I didn't go through their help files.

Regards, J, M0IPU YO3FCA

Note: I believe the Yahoo group link needs to be updated on Wiki








KAM-XL symbol (was: GPS Setup SOLVED)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

What particular station was showing a boat vs a red dot?  I'd like to track down and explain the choice of symbol.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/21/2019 3:55 AM, Julian wrote:
Hi Brandon, I haven't experimented with APRSISCE GPS yet, but programs working with NMEA normally pick up the GPGGA and GPRMC data as these strings contain position, altitude, speed etc. As long as the GPS (possibly GLONASS) unit TXes these strings everything should be OK: https://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm   https://youtu.be/AXwSYz6htsg 
I can see you have got a Fix Quality of 2 in the GGA string which is very good. I am no expert in GPS, but I had to learn few things, forced by the hobby... I have experimented with Kantronics KAM-XL where you can find a similar setup, GPS wise. What I have noticed is that APRSISCE shows the KAM-XL GPS waypoins with a boat symbol (I am assuming it could because boats use a similar format in their positioning system?), aprs.fi on the other hand shows them correctly as waypoints (red dot). aprsdirect.com doesn't show them at all ( I learned aprsdirect.com doesn't show APRS Items either). aprs.fi won't show waypoints with a poor Fix Quality aka zero.
Good luck and regards,73 de J M0IPU YO3FCA


Re: GPS Setup SOLVED

Christopher Rose
 

The first two lines may be a communication link or baud rate connection to your computer from the GPS. Once that function happens the gps is running and linked to your computer.

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From: "Brandon Clark"
To: APRSISCE@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Sunday October 20 2019 5:40:26PM
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Setup SOLVED

Hello group,

I found a section of the GPS dongle's configuration utility where you can tell the dongle how to send the NMEA strings. Two of the settings are called "Main Talker ID" and "GSV Talker ID". They were previously set as follows:
Main Talker ID: 0-system dependent
GSV Talker ID: 0-GNSS Specific

I'm far from a GPS expert (obviously), but I think the dongle was formatting the data strings differently based on what type of satellite system the data was coming from. I changed those settings to the following:
Main Talker ID: 1-GP (GPS)
GSV Talker ID: 1-Use Main Talker ID

After flashing those instructions to the dongle I reopened the virtual COM port in PuTTY. Everything is not coming through as $GPxxx type strings:
image

There is still all that funky stuff at the beginning, but I guess that's normal because it doesn't seem to be hurting anything. Anyway, when I engage the port in APRSIS32 again I get a full lock almost immediately, as expected.
73,
Brandon Clark, KL7BSC


Re: GPS Setup SOLVED

Julian
 

Hi Brandon, I haven't experimented with APRSISCE GPS yet, but programs working with NMEA normally pick up the GPGGA and GPRMC data as these strings contain position, altitude, speed etc. As long as the GPS (possibly GLONASS) unit TXes these strings everything should be OK: https://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm   https://youtu.be/AXwSYz6htsg 
I can see you have got a Fix Quality of 2 in the GGA string which is very good. I am no expert in GPS, but I had to learn few things, forced by the hobby... I have experimented with Kantronics KAM-XL where you can find a similar setup, GPS wise. What I have noticed is that APRSISCE shows the KAM-XL GPS waypoins with a boat symbol (I am assuming it could because boats use a similar format in their positioning system?), aprs.fi on the other hand shows them correctly as waypoints (red dot). aprsdirect.com doesn't show them at all ( I learned aprsdirect.com doesn't show APRS Items either). aprs.fi won't show waypoints with a poor Fix Quality aka zero.
Good luck and regards,73 de J M0IPU YO3FCA


Re: GPS Setup SOLVED

Brandon Clark
 

Hello group,

I found a section of the GPS dongle's configuration utility where you can tell the dongle how to send the NMEA strings. Two of the settings are called "Main Talker ID" and "GSV Talker ID". They were previously set as follows:
Main Talker ID: 0-system dependent
GSV Talker ID: 0-GNSS Specific

I'm far from a GPS expert (obviously), but I think the dongle was formatting the data strings differently based on what type of satellite system the data was coming from. I changed those settings to the following:
Main Talker ID: 1-GP (GPS)
GSV Talker ID: 1-Use Main Talker ID

After flashing those instructions to the dongle I reopened the virtual COM port in PuTTY. Everything is not coming through as $GPxxx type strings:


There is still all that funky stuff at the beginning, but I guess that's normal because it doesn't seem to be hurting anything. Anyway, when I engage the port in APRSIS32 again I get a full lock almost immediately, as expected.
73,
Brandon Clark, KL7BSC


Re: GPS Setup

Brandon Clark
 

Thanks for the advice Lynn. I opened a terminal session using PuTTY on COM6 and made a screenshot of the output:



It looks like I am getting a mix of different types of data? Some have the "$GPxxX" structure you mentioned, but others are beginning with "GNxxx" and "GLxxx". I watched the terminal for a while and the structure is always the same:
-Weird characters on the top row or two,
-$GNxx strings,
-$GPxxx strings,
-$GLxxx strings,
-$GNxxx strings

Could it be that the weird characters at the start of the data are messing up the interpretation? The $GPxxx strings are present, but maybe they are not getting read since they are bracketed by other data types?
73,
Brandon


Re: GPS Setup

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

APRSISCE/32 expects NMEA strings from the GPS.  You can confirm this by opening a simple terminal program to the GPS port (assuming no other program has it open) and see if it is readable.  Each line should start with a $GPxxx and be a string of comma-separated values not all of which are numeric.

If you don't see this, and it is readable, post the results here.  If what you see is not readable, then your GPS is in a binary mode that will need an NMEA conversion somewhere before getting to APRSISCE/32.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/20/2019 1:13 AM, Brandon Clark wrote:
Hello group,

Well, I've been trying to get my new GPS dongle working with APRSIS32 and am still stuck. I initially did not have the "Enables | NMEA" part going, but once I enabled that the screen displayed the expected elements: location and heading boxes, list of anticipated satellites, etc.

Where I'm stuck now is that the GPS data doesn't seem to be "getting into" the program. When i use the USB dongle with the included testing and config program (U-Center 8.26) I can get a position fix, see which satellites are being received, and so forth. So I know Windows 10 is able to work with the dongle.

Also installed is a virtual com port driver, which creates a COM6 for the GPS dongle. I double- and triple-checked the port configuration in APRSIS32 against what shows up in Windows Device Manager (COM#, Baud, Parity, Data Bits, and Stop Bits). Everything matches.

Now, the receiver is very configurable. My hypothesis is that the receiver is sending data in a protocol that the U-Center 8.26 program can decipher, but which APRSIS32 cannot. I think I have also found where I can flash the configuration to the receiver to change how it communicates.

My question is, what must APRSIS32 receive in order to read the data properly? It looks like there are multiple versions if the NMEA protocol. Which one should I tell the receiver to use? Are there any other settings I should look for in the configuration program?
73,
Brandon Clark, KL7BSC


Re: GPS Setup

Brandon Clark
 

Hello group,

Well, I've been trying to get my new GPS dongle working with APRSIS32 and am still stuck. I initially did not have the "Enables | NMEA" part going, but once I enabled that the screen displayed the expected elements: location and heading boxes, list of anticipated satellites, etc.

Where I'm stuck now is that the GPS data doesn't seem to be "getting into" the program. When i use the USB dongle with the included testing and config program (U-Center 8.26) I can get a position fix, see which satellites are being received, and so forth. So I know Windows 10 is able to work with the dongle.

Also installed is a virtual com port driver, which creates a COM6 for the GPS dongle. I double- and triple-checked the port configuration in APRSIS32 against what shows up in Windows Device Manager (COM#, Baud, Parity, Data Bits, and Stop Bits). Everything matches.

Now, the receiver is very configurable. My hypothesis is that the receiver is sending data in a protocol that the U-Center 8.26 program can decipher, but which APRSIS32 cannot. I think I have also found where I can flash the configuration to the receiver to change how it communicates.

My question is, what must APRSIS32 receive in order to read the data properly? It looks like there are multiple versions if the NMEA protocol. Which one should I tell the receiver to use? Are there any other settings I should look for in the configuration program?
73,
Brandon Clark, KL7BSC


Re: ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32

Glenn OConnor <kf0ed@...>
 

Interesting. I'll have to study this more, Lynn.

We've a local ham who's scripted to send via RF, passes of the Fox birds. They'll start showing on my heard list when approaching in range and continue until out of the local range.


On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 17:47, Lynn Deffenbaugh
<kj4erj@...> wrote:
See http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:satsrv


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/19/2019 4:28 PM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
> ok
>
> so this, despite having the ISS Sat-Icon, is generated by Lynn and not over RF?
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Re: ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

See http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:satsrv


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/19/2019 4:28 PM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
ok

so this, despite having the ISS Sat-Icon, is generated by Lynn and not over RF?



Re: ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32

KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...>
 

how about I attach it via the email point rather than the BB-site?


so I attached ISS-Clip.JPG to this

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901


Re: ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32

KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...>
 

ok

so this, despite having the ISS Sat-Icon, is generated by Lynn and not over RF?


Re: ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32

Glenn OConnor <kf0ed@...>
 

I see those occasionally. It's from Lynn's station/server feed, I believe.


On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 15:11, KD7YZ Bob
<kd7yz@...> wrote:
Saw this on my "MaP" AND DUNNO WHAT OR WHY IT IS THERE ... THOUGH AT THE EXACT TIME i WAS BOT DECODING iss aprs ON 145.825 AS WELL AS sending CQ an my Pos report.

so how is it I see K4ERJ there ?

Maybe a near overhead pass?

... ahhhh, I see, I took a screen shot and can post it, it seems....

here is a 'copy' of the msg text ...

---------------------------------
ISS
Msg4Pass
Multi: 11/11 Points 1 Parts
ML: }k1lpNgoSz@s2c,N29@)S"g-pN{

Sym: Sat/Pacsat (\S)
App: Experimental (TLE)
FromCtr: 30.4mi SE
FromME: 30.4mi SE (128º)
GridSquare: EM88rf03qb
3813.2639N 08234.6656W
Time: 00-00 19:57:56h
2019-10-19 19:57:57 (8m)
KJ4ERJ-15->TCPIP*
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ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32

KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...>
 

Saw this on my "MaP" AND DUNNO WHAT OR WHY IT IS THERE ... THOUGH AT THE EXACT TIME i WAS BOT DECODING iss aprs ON 145.825 AS WELL AS sending CQ an my Pos report.

so how is it I see K4ERJ there ?

Maybe a near overhead pass?

... ahhhh, I see, I took a screen shot and can post it, it seems....

here is a 'copy' of the msg text ...

---------------------------------
ISS
Msg4Pass
Multi: 11/11 Points 1 Parts
ML: }k1lpNgoSz@s2c,N29@)S"g-pN{

Sym: Sat/Pacsat (\S)
App: Experimental (TLE)
FromCtr: 30.4mi SE
FromME: 30.4mi SE (128º)
GridSquare: EM88rf03qb
3813.2639N 08234.6656W
Time: 00-00 19:57:56h
2019-10-19 19:57:57 (8m)
KJ4ERJ-15->TCPIP*
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