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KAM-XL symbol (was: GPS Setup SOLVED)
Lynn Deffenbaugh
What particular station was showing a
boat vs a red dot? I'd like to track down and explain the choice
of symbol.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 10/21/2019 3:55 AM, Julian wrote:
Hi Brandon, I haven't experimented with APRSISCE GPS yet, but programs working with NMEA normally pick up the GPGGA and GPRMC data as these strings contain position, altitude, speed etc. As long as the GPS (possibly GLONASS) unit TXes these strings everything should be OK: https://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm https://youtu.be/AXwSYz6htsg
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Re: GPS Setup SOLVED
Christopher Rose
The first two lines may be a communication link or baud rate connection to your computer from the GPS. Once that function happens the gps is running and linked to your computer.
----------------------------------------- From: "Brandon Clark"To: APRSISCE@groups.io Cc: Sent: Sunday October 20 2019 5:40:26PM Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] GPS Setup SOLVED Hello group, I found a section of the GPS dongle's configuration utility where you can tell the dongle how to send the NMEA strings. Two of the settings are called "Main Talker ID" and "GSV Talker ID". They were previously set as follows: Main Talker ID: 0-system dependent GSV Talker ID: 0-GNSS Specific I'm far from a GPS expert (obviously), but I think the dongle was formatting the data strings differently based on what type of satellite system the data was coming from. I changed those settings to the following: Main Talker ID: 1-GP (GPS) GSV Talker ID: 1-Use Main Talker ID After flashing those instructions to the dongle I reopened the virtual COM port in PuTTY. Everything is not coming through as $GPxxx type strings:  There is still all that funky stuff at the beginning, but I guess that's normal because it doesn't seem to be hurting anything. Anyway, when I engage the port in APRSIS32 again I get a full lock almost immediately, as expected. 73, Brandon Clark, KL7BSC
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Re: GPS Setup SOLVED
Julian
Hi Brandon, I haven't experimented with APRSISCE GPS yet, but programs working with NMEA normally pick up the GPGGA and GPRMC data as these strings contain position, altitude, speed etc. As long as the GPS (possibly GLONASS) unit TXes these strings everything should be OK: https://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm https://youtu.be/AXwSYz6htsg
I can see you have got a Fix Quality of 2 in the GGA string which is very good. I am no expert in GPS, but I had to learn few things, forced by the hobby... I have experimented with Kantronics KAM-XL where you can find a similar setup, GPS wise. What I have noticed is that APRSISCE shows the KAM-XL GPS waypoins with a boat symbol (I am assuming it could because boats use a similar format in their positioning system?), aprs.fi on the other hand shows them correctly as waypoints (red dot). aprsdirect.com doesn't show them at all ( I learned aprsdirect.com doesn't show APRS Items either). aprs.fi won't show waypoints with a poor Fix Quality aka zero. Good luck and regards,73 de J M0IPU YO3FCA
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Re: GPS Setup SOLVED
Brandon Clark
Hello group,
I found a section of the GPS dongle's configuration utility where you can tell the dongle how to send the NMEA strings. Two of the settings are called "Main Talker ID" and "GSV Talker ID". They were previously set as follows: Main Talker ID: 0-system dependent GSV Talker ID: 0-GNSS Specific I'm far from a GPS expert (obviously), but I think the dongle was formatting the data strings differently based on what type of satellite system the data was coming from. I changed those settings to the following: Main Talker ID: 1-GP (GPS) GSV Talker ID: 1-Use Main Talker ID After flashing those instructions to the dongle I reopened the virtual COM port in PuTTY. Everything is not coming through as $GPxxx type strings: There is still all that funky stuff at the beginning, but I guess that's normal because it doesn't seem to be hurting anything. Anyway, when I engage the port in APRSIS32 again I get a full lock almost immediately, as expected. 73, Brandon Clark, KL7BSC
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Re: GPS Setup
Brandon Clark
Thanks for the advice Lynn. I opened a terminal session using PuTTY on COM6 and made a screenshot of the output:
It looks like I am getting a mix of different types of data? Some have the "$GPxxX" structure you mentioned, but others are beginning with "GNxxx" and "GLxxx". I watched the terminal for a while and the structure is always the same: -Weird characters on the top row or two, -$GNxx strings, -$GPxxx strings, -$GLxxx strings, -$GNxxx strings Could it be that the weird characters at the start of the data are messing up the interpretation? The $GPxxx strings are present, but maybe they are not getting read since they are bracketed by other data types? 73, Brandon
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Re: GPS Setup
Lynn Deffenbaugh
APRSISCE/32 expects NMEA strings from the GPS. You can confirm this by opening a simple terminal program to the GPS port (assuming no other program has it open) and see if it is readable. Each line should start with a $GPxxx and be a string of comma-separated values not all of which are numeric. If you don't see this, and it is readable, post the results
here. If what you see is not readable, then your GPS is in a
binary mode that will need an NMEA conversion somewhere before
getting to APRSISCE/32. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 10/20/2019 1:13 AM, Brandon Clark
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Re: GPS Setup
Brandon Clark
Hello group, Well, I've been trying to get my new GPS dongle working with APRSIS32 and am still stuck. I initially did not have the "Enables | NMEA" part going, but once I enabled that the screen displayed the expected elements: location and heading boxes, list of anticipated satellites, etc. Where I'm stuck now is that the GPS data doesn't seem to be "getting into" the program. When i use the USB dongle with the included testing and config program (U-Center 8.26) I can get a position fix, see which satellites are being received, and so forth. So I know Windows 10 is able to work with the dongle. Also installed is a virtual com port driver, which creates a COM6 for the GPS dongle. I double- and triple-checked the port configuration in APRSIS32 against what shows up in Windows Device Manager (COM#, Baud, Parity, Data Bits, and Stop Bits). Everything matches. Now, the receiver is very configurable. My hypothesis is that the receiver is sending data in a protocol that the U-Center 8.26 program can decipher, but which APRSIS32 cannot. I think I have also found where I can flash the configuration to the receiver to change how it communicates. My question is, what must APRSIS32 receive in order to read the data properly? It looks like there are multiple versions if the NMEA protocol. Which one should I tell the receiver to use? Are there any other settings I should look for in the configuration program? 73, Brandon Clark, KL7BSC
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Re: ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32
Glenn OConnor <kf0ed@...>
Interesting. I'll have to study this more, Lynn.
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Re: ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32
Lynn Deffenbaugh
See http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:satsrv
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Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 10/19/2019 4:28 PM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
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Re: ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32
KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...>
how about I attach it via the email point rather than the BB-site?
so I attached ISS-Clip.JPG to this -- 73 Bob KD7YZ AMSAT LM #901
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Re: ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32
KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...>
ok
so this, despite having the ISS Sat-Icon, is generated by Lynn and not over RF?
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Re: ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32
Glenn OConnor <kf0ed@...>
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ISS APRS Clip via APRSIS/32
KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...>
Saw this on my "MaP" AND DUNNO WHAT OR WHY IT IS THERE ... THOUGH AT THE EXACT TIME i WAS BOT DECODING iss aprs ON 145.825 AS WELL AS sending CQ an my Pos report.
so how is it I see K4ERJ there ? Maybe a near overhead pass? ... ahhhh, I see, I took a screen shot and can post it, it seems.... here is a 'copy' of the msg text ... --------------------------------- ISS Msg4Pass Multi: 11/11 Points 1 Parts ML: }k1lpNgoSz@s2c,N29@)S"g-pN{ Sym: Sat/Pacsat (\S) App: Experimental (TLE) FromCtr: 30.4mi SE FromME: 30.4mi SE (128º) GridSquare: EM88rf03qb 3813.2639N 08234.6656W Time: 00-00 19:57:56h 2019-10-19 19:57:57 (8m) KJ4ERJ-15->TCPIP* -----------------------------------------------
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Re: Test
KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...>
On 10/16/2019 17:29, Michael Wright wrote:
I raise you two "acks." thanks for the transition, worked smooth for me. ACK ACK seems copied well here thanks to whomever made the switch for me!! -- 73 Bob KD7YZ AMSAT LM #901
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Group Transfer Status
Lynn Deffenbaugh
Here's the group transfer status. If you own any of the missing files or photos, feel free to re-up them to groups.io. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 -------- Forwarded Message --------
Hello, The transfer of your Yahoo Group APRSISCE to your Groups.io group APRSISCE is complete. We've transferred the following parts of your group:
IMPORTANT: Yahoo Groups has been very unreliable lately. If you find that you are missing Photos, Files or Messages, it is because we were unable to export them due to problems with Yahoo Groups. Also, we do not transfer calendar events. Here are some statistics:
0 photos were transferred. The following photos were not transferred, due to problems with
Yahoo:
67 files were transferred. 1 links were transferred. 1 databases were transferred. If you have any questions, please contact support@groups.io. Cheers,
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TH-D74A and GPS
Greg Isringhaus
Hey guys. I'm wanting to do GPS with my TH-D74A over Bluetooth to APRSIS32.
I had it working before and then I did a firmware upgrade and I lost all my settings. Can someone help me out to get this going again? Thanks all! K0GDI - GREG...
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Made the trip
Rob Giuliano
Looks like the last messages about starting this group are here, so something is working.
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Re: Migration to Groups.IO
David Shrum
Sounds good to me, then I'll go ahead and close that Yahoo account there too. I went and closed all my other accounts there, so I'll have no accounts left there. Thanks Lynn
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 5:48 PM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:
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Re: Migration to Groups.IO
Lynn Deffenbaugh
I am probably NOT going to migrate it, but simply invite all of
the current members. I don't think there are very many of them
and I don't believe there's much history to be lost by not
migrating the messages. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 10/16/2019 5:38 PM, David Shrum
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Re: Migration to Groups.IO
Randy Love
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On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 5:39 PM David Shrum <dave.n8pu@...> wrote:
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