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Re: Development mode

James Ewen
 

The high tech key to unlock the development version is changing a zero to a one in a file.

If that process is too difficult to complete, then the features in the development version may be too advanced to be accessed by the user. 

Think of it as a test of “worthiness”, kind of like the sword in the stone, or Thor’s hammer. 

(By the way this is written in humour, not as a slight on anyone)

Seriously though, it’s not rocket science to read the instructions on accessing development mode. If you are after functions available in development mode, you really need to understand what you are going to be doing, especially with the IS to RF gating. You can destroy the RF channel for hundreds of miles for everyone by setting it up improperly. 

Invest the time required to understand what you are wanting to play with, and read the wiki on how to unlock development mode. 

Development mode is not for appliance operators. (Do I sound like an old crotchety ham radio operator? They were really old when I got into ham radio 30 years ago. I hope I’m not there yet!)

James
VE6SRV

On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:19 AM, shoan butler kn4txm@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:

Ok, i understand that part but what do i do? What's the process? I'm do not know computer code or what I'm looking for???? What is the latest version? How do i change it? What do i change to get what I'm looking for? Doesn't this system just have on and off buttons or do i need a degree in computer science to unlock it's features???? The wiki doesn't accommodate the average person that is not code savvy. Very frustrating! Waiting for a reply. Thanks.


On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 12:02 AM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]
<aprsisce@...> wrote:
 



Truth is that the development mode is what almost everyone runs. 
The release version is very old, but the development version has features that can be kind of tricky to use. 
By that I mean you can configure it to pass too much traffic and cause problems.  For that reason it remains "development".  That way it at least makes people more cautious about using the more advanced features, not found in the full release.

So, if you want to experiment with some of the advanced features (mainly passing IS to RF for sure), post your ideas and get feedback as you try them.  That will get you the info on the gotchas that could be lurking.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 10:21:30 PM EDT, shoan butler kn4txm@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:


 

Hi all, when I try to track satellites by entering Ctrl + O the system rejects it stating that I can only execute this in development mode. Where do I even start????

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: Development mode

shoan butler
 

Ok, i understand that part but what do i do? What's the process? I'm do not know computer code or what I'm looking for???? What is the latest version? How do i change it? What do i change to get what I'm looking for? Doesn't this system just have on and off buttons or do i need a degree in computer science to unlock it's features???? The wiki doesn't accommodate the average person that is not code savvy. Very frustrating! Waiting for a reply. Thanks.


On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 12:02 AM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]
wrote:
 



Truth is that the development mode is what almost everyone runs. 
The release version is very old, but the development version has features that can be kind of tricky to use. 
By that I mean you can configure it to pass too much traffic and cause problems.  For that reason it remains "development".  That way it at least makes people more cautious about using the more advanced features, not found in the full release.

So, if you want to experiment with some of the advanced features (mainly passing IS to RF for sure), post your ideas and get feedback as you try them.  That will get you the info on the gotchas that could be lurking.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 10:21:30 PM EDT, shoan butler kn4txm@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

Hi all, when I try to track satellites by entering Ctrl + O the system rejects it stating that I can only execute this in development mode. Where do I even start????

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: Development mode

Ryszard Labus
 

Check this out:

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:development-version

R.

W dniu 2019-09-05 o 04:19, shoan butler kn4txm@... [aprsisce] pisze:
 

Hi all, when I try to track satellites by entering Ctrl + O the system rejects it stating that I can only execute this in development mode. Where do I even start????

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

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Re: Development mode

Rob Giuliano
 



Truth is that the development mode is what almost everyone runs. 
The release version is very old, but the development version has features that can be kind of tricky to use. 
By that I mean you can configure it to pass too much traffic and cause problems.  For that reason it remains "development".  That way it at least makes people more cautious about using the more advanced features, not found in the full release.

So, if you want to experiment with some of the advanced features (mainly passing IS to RF for sure), post your ideas and get feedback as you try them.  That will get you the info on the gotchas that could be lurking.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 10:21:30 PM EDT, shoan butler kn4txm@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

Hi all, when I try to track satellites by entering Ctrl + O the system rejects it stating that I can only execute this in development mode. Where do I even start????

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Development mode

shoan butler
 

Hi all, when I try to track satellites by entering Ctrl + O the system rejects it stating that I can only execute this in development mode. Where do I even start????

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: Scroller Text Color

Rob Giuliano
 

Yes, the range circle is the outer limit.
The range circle is basically the largest circle that fits on the screen. 
   This can be hieght or width limited, based on window shape.
Its distance can be shown in the bottom left corner.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Monday, August 26, 2019, 12:50:39 PM EDT, ARNOLD HARDING kq6di@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

Looking at the Wiki about the scroller left a question about Scroller text colors.  From the Wiki:

Red, Yellow, Green - Scaled color based on proximity (Red = close, Green = far)
The scale of this conversion is the circle on the map. If the station is within the circle, the color will vary from Green (outer edge) to Red (dead center) based on how close the station is to the coordinates at the center of the screen.

What is the "circle on the map"?  Does this have to do with Range Circle in " Configure / Screen / Circle" ?  I'm guessing that's the "circle" since the text colors change based on my zoom level, but I almost never have the "circle" turned on.  Not a big question, just curious, and the Scroller Wiki left that question unanswered.

Arnold, KQ6DI
Scroller Text Color

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

Looking at the Wiki about the scroller left a question about Scroller text colors.  From the Wiki:

Red, Yellow, Green - Scaled color based on proximity (Red = close, Green = far)
The scale of this conversion is the circle on the map. If the station is within the circle, the color will vary from Green (outer edge) to Red (dead center) based on how close the station is to the coordinates at the center of the screen.

What is the "circle on the map"?  Does this have to do with Range Circle in " Configure / Screen / Circle" ?  I'm guessing that's the "circle" since the text colors change based on my zoom level, but I almost never have the "circle" turned on.  Not a big question, just curious, and the Scroller Wiki left that question unanswered.

Arnold, KQ6DI
Re: PASSWORD

Rob Giuliano
 



On Saturday, August 24, 2019, 1:09:30 PM EDT, 2wr796@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

Need  to get a password, licensed ham here k8len, need info on how to obtain.

PAT/K8LEN
PASSWORD

pat obrien
 

Need  to get a password, licensed ham here k8len, need info on how to obtain.

PAT/K8LEN
Re: It Works GREAT!

Peter Dodd
 

Hi Joe,
 
As already answered by others 10.1476 MHz USB.
 
I am using a dipole only about 15 feet of the ground,
 
Receiving mobile stations about 1000 miles to the North of Tasmania.
 
Have fun
 
Regards
 
Peter
VK7KPC-10 on APRS.fi
 

From: Joe nss@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:30 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] It Works GREAT!
 
 

I'd like to listen there.

what frequency and what mode or settings?

Joe WB9SBD


The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/12/2019 4:54 PM, dodd.pc@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hi Robert
 
Thanks for that link.
 
I am also using the soundcard modem with aprsisce on 30m.
 
Peter Dodd
VK7KPC-10
 
From: Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 7:30 AM
To: Joe nss@... [aprsisce]
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] It Works GREAT!
 
 
Glad you got it working!
 
It explains the elements you are looking at.
 
 

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

 
Re: It Works GREAT!

KP3FT
 

Set your HF radio dial to 10.147.60, USB mode.  Set SoundModem to 300 baud AFSK, centered at 1700hz.

Also, there's VERY active conventional HF packet on dial freq 14.105.00 in LSB mode, and dial freq 7.109.50 LSB mode.   Same 300-baud AFSK at 1700hz.

On Monday, August 12, 2019, 9:11:46 PM EDT, Joe nss@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

I'd like to listen there.

what frequency and what mode or settings?

Joe WB9SBD


The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/12/2019 4:54 PM, dodd.pc@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hi Robert
 
Thanks for that link.
 
I am also using the soundcard modem with aprsisce on 30m.
 
Peter Dodd
VK7KPC-10
 
From: Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 7:30 AM
To: Joe nss@... [aprsisce]
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] It Works GREAT!
 
 

Glad you got it working!
 
It explains the elements you are looking at.
 
 

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

 
Re: Unable to deliver your message

Rob Giuliano
 

I suggest reading HF APRS Notes




He has a section on HF APRS and specifics on 30,
Any search of "APRS 30m band" should give some helpful sites.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Monday, August 12, 2019, 9:11:39 PM EDT, Joe nss@mwt..net [aprsisce] wrote:


 

I'd like to listen there.

what frequency and what mode or settings?

Joe WB9SBD


The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/12/2019 4:54 PM, dodd.pc@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hi Robert
 
Thanks for that link.
 
I am also using the soundcard modem with aprsisce on 30m.
 
Peter Dodd
VK7KPC-10
 
From: Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 7:30 AM
To: Joe nss@... [aprsisce]
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] It Works GREAT!
 
 

Glad you got it working!
 
It explains the elements you are looking at.
 
 

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

 
Re: It Works GREAT!

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

If you double-click that narrow vertical bar, it will give you the raw numbers.  The level of the bar and the colors are a red-herring based on a much earlier version of APRSISCE/32 that actually had a limited station count capability.  It would grow the bar as more stations became known and eventually turn red as it neared the top.  That is still the behavior, but when the current station list size is hit, the size is expanded resulting in the bar going back down into the yellow (orange) or green.

So, the bar really exists now only to be a double-click target to get at the detailed station count and configured age information.  Specifically:

Close Stations
Using 59378 of 45895 Stations (Runs:334)
Age 80 to 120 (0) Minutes
Track Age 24 (0) Hours
Bulletins 14 Hours, TelemDefs 14 Days
249743/343776 Total Points (16115Kb)
(10654 Dupes, 38764 Inv)

Dupes: 2339/4370/4380 in 455520 +1044659 Pkts
PktLen: Avg: 97/238 Max: 452
Oldest: 54 sec (Check: 30)
Pkts Seen: 1711383

Station Memory: 125881529
Stations: 59378 in 66978384 +15128657 Strs
(1128/Fixed +254/Strs)
PktPaths: 8859 in 921336 (104ea)
Paths: 10340/495520 in 19820800 (40ea)
Tracks: 4579/343776 in 16501248 (48ea)
MultiLines: 1575 in 4120304
(p:2140896 c:1070448 s:8320 t:56440)
NWSTimes: 41 in 1312 (32ea)
Storm: 22 in 1056 (48ea)
Weather: 11781 in 1790712 (152ea)
Freqs: 4143 in 165720 (40ea)
Nicks: 6 in 1608 (268ea)
PktTimes: 39545 in 237270 (6ea)
BRGs: 18932 in 454368 (24ea)
PHGs: 18932 in 454368 (24ea)
SeenStations: 98699/98720 in 987200 (10ea)
Coords: 238440/238592 (0 Free) in 38174720 (160ea)
(Hits:600080/1038569 Purge:638 Ref:871171)

That whole bottom part about memory is primarily for my use when debugging memory consumption (and potential leak) issues.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/12/2019 5:47 PM, Joe nss@... [aprsisce] wrote:
I guess it is Station Count,

But do not understand what it is telling me. when I first open it it is RED and full scale, and as time goes on even tho the station list on the left gets huge this bar drops turns orange and eventually green.

Joe WB9SBD

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/12/2019 4:30 PM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Glad you got it working!

It explains the elements you are looking at.


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Monday, August 12, 2019, 3:42:20 PM EDT, Joe nss@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 
[Attachment(s) from Joe included below]

APRSISCE and soundmodem together works GREAT! Thank You all for the help.

One question, the vertical bar in the left it's obvious what it is showing, but the one on the right, what is it's purpose?

Joe WB9SBD

--

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
Re: It Works GREAT!

Rob Giuliano
 


He has a section on HF APRS and specifics on 30,
Any search of "APRS 30m band" should give some helpful sites.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Monday, August 12, 2019, 9:11:39 PM EDT, Joe nss@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

I'd like to listen there.

what frequency and what mode or settings?

Joe WB9SBD


The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/12/2019 4:54 PM, dodd.pc@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hi Robert
 
Thanks for that link.
 
I am also using the soundcard modem with aprsisce on 30m.
 
Peter Dodd
VK7KPC-10
 
From: Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 7:30 AM
To: Joe nss@... [aprsisce]
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] It Works GREAT!
 
 

Glad you got it working!
 
It explains the elements you are looking at.
 
 

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

 
Re: Sorry for this Test

Joe WB9SBD
 

nO IT IS A MESS ISSUE i HAVE WITH every yAHOO PAGE, i DESCRIBE BELOW,,

Yahoo has been all messed up for me for geez ten years?

When I go to a page like this it wants me to log in.

I try to but it complains that the password does not match.

So I try to do the help with password thing, to retrieve password.

and I give it the info, and it tells me there is no such user using that E-Mail address.

OK so I try to make a whole new account, and put in that exact same E-Mail address, and guess what?

It tells me I can not use that E-Mail address because it is already in use.

No such user, and already in use at the same time.

so every group I do has been strictly via E-Mail.

I was hoping to be able to read some of the already posts, to maybe get my questions answered there, but cant get in, so I guess I will have to ask Via the E-Mail even tho the question may have been just answered yesterday he he he

Joe WB9SBD

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 8/12/2019 5:12 PM, ARNOLD HARDING kq6di@... [aprsisce] wrote:

Joe,

Could the "problem" with the website be that it is not "secure"?  The website is fine for me, but it does not show a secure connection.

Arnold, KQ6DI

On August 11, 2019 at 4:36 PM "Joe nss@... [aprsisce]" wrote:

 

This is only a test just joined but can not view web page for group.
Want to see if E Mail part at least works.
Joe WB9SBD


 


 
Re: It Works GREAT!

Joe WB9SBD
 

I'd like to listen there.

what frequency and what mode or settings?

Joe WB9SBD

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 8/12/2019 4:54 PM, dodd.pc@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hi Robert
 
Thanks for that link.
 
I am also using the soundcard modem with aprsisce on 30m.
 
Peter Dodd
VK7KPC-10
 
From: Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 7:30 AM
To: Joe nss@... [aprsisce]
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] It Works GREAT!
 
 

Glad you got it working!
 
It explains the elements you are looking at.
 
 

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

 
Re: Something mis-configured?

Christopher Rose
 

Screen capture
Print screen
Open paint and click the box for edit and then right click paste on the white area?  Or open a word processor and see if you can paste the image and then save it. Now attach it to it email?



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "David Shrum dave.n8pu@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
Date: 8/5/19 2:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Something mis-configured?

 

Since I'm near Traverse City, yes that is what I want to do, Thanks.

Dave N8PU

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 2:00 PM Randy Love rlove31@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

A little behind what you're seeing.

Traccar is running as a background service on my Android to do automatic reporting from my phone. 
( See that WF5X in the packet? That's me. )

Sometime over the course of the last few weeks, my work's internet access via the Guess Wireless connection has started to not find the traccar server.
Traccar stores up the unsuccessful position reports when network is unavailable and then dumps them en masse when a network connection is restored.
So, once it finally gets a connection to the server, it floods them out. 

I have found a way to keep the connection at work more stable, but it requires me to remember to start my VPN on my phone. 
Since I'm human, I forget sometimes, and then there's a flood when I remember to send start the VPN. 

MICON tactical calls are used by those of us associated with the multi-county reporting network used for Skywarn reporting to the NWS office for Detroit/Pontiac.
We run 90 sec reporting via traccar, which is autoforwarded to APRS-IS.  90 sec reports via APRS-IS is not really excessive, unless there's an unknown network connection loss, and the subsequent flood when it's restored. 

I'm trying to deal with the issue as best as I can with the limitations that my work has on their guess wireless access. 

But, to answer your question, yes, there is away to block them  -b/MICON*

73,
Randy
WF5X


On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 12:58 PM David Shrum dave.n8pu@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

In the last week or so I saw complaints about what is showing up in the ticker of stations showing up, I thought I would add what I see a lot of, and of course doing a "whois" doesn't show me who it is. I see a lot of MICON-1, MICON-42, etc. I guess I should have paid more attention what was being said, but since basically the only thing I have done is set my pass code and location, and who I track...

I guess my question is, is there a filter that can block anything that has "MICON" in it from showing up? Regardless of whether it has a "-1", or "-2" or "-42". Thanks and I apologize in advance for asking the same question over again so quickly, most of that went over my head because of a lack of knowledge and understanding of what was happening. If this program was a "appliance" like what the "old hams" said would happen with the CW drop back a while ago, I would have to say guilty on both counts.

Thanks,
Dave N8PU

PS, sorry about the poor picture quality of the second picture, I couldn't get a screen capture of it with my computer so I had to take a picture of it with my cell phone camera.

PPS, I tried to add a filter to not show anything with MICON in it and obviously was missing something important.

2019-08-05T11:28:50.806 Parsing
2019-08-05T11:28:50.806 Parsing
2019-08-05T16:52:36.164 Parsing -MICON*
2019-08-05T16:52:36.164 Filter Error:Piece(-MICON*) missing / as second character
2019-08-05T16:53:23.595 Parsing

Re: Sorry for this Test

Christopher Rose
 

My ISP web email won't let me see messages from this list. Have to use microsoft mail client to read the messages.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "ARNOLD HARDING kq6di@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
Date: 8/12/19 6:12 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Sorry for this Test

 

Joe,

Could the "problem" with the website be that it is not "secure"?  The website is fine for me, but it does not show a secure connection.

Arnold, KQ6DI

On August 11, 2019 at 4:36 PM "Joe nss@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 

This is only a test just joined but can not view web page for group.
Want to see if E Mail part at least works.
Joe WB9SBD


 


 
Re: Sorry for this Test

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

Joe,

Could the "problem" with the website be that it is not "secure"?  The website is fine for me, but it does not show a secure connection.

Arnold, KQ6DI

On August 11, 2019 at 4:36 PM "Joe nss@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 

This is only a test just joined but can not view web page for group.
Want to see if E Mail part at least works.
Joe WB9SBD


 


 
Re: It Works GREAT!

Peter Dodd
 

Hi Robert
 
Thanks for that link.
 
I am also using the soundcard modem with aprsisce on 30m.
 
Peter Dodd
VK7KPC-10
 

From: Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 7:30 AM
To: Joe nss@... [aprsisce]
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] It Works GREAT!
 
 

Glad you got it working!
 
It explains the elements you are looking at.
 
 

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

 
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