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Re: APRS

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Take a look at DireWolf. It's a sound-card TNC to which APRSISCE/32 can connect.

https://github.com/wb2osz/direwolf


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/11/2019 9:00 PM, Joe nss@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hello Everyone,

What I am about to ask below, if it has recently been asked and
answered, please accept my apology. I have zero access to the web page
with all the old messages and I just joined this afternoon.

I'm getting back into APRS after a long absence. And I was talking to a
guy that still does it and I asked him this.

APRS, with modern computers and all the fancy stuff you see they can do
now.

Is there a way to monitor APRS with just a computer and soundcard?

I mean what can be in a old vintage 1980's TNC that can not be done with
a computer program and soundcard instead?

And he sent me to this program..
I installed it and got it up and running. I even saw my Home computer on
aprs.fi, so it's working.

NOW,,, If I have audio from 144.39 how do I put it into this program?

Joe WB9SBD





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Joe WB9SBD
 

Hello Everyone,

What I am about to ask below, if it has recently been asked and answered, please accept my apology. I have zero access to the web page with all the old messages and I just joined this afternoon.

I'm getting back into APRS after a long absence. And I was talking to a guy that still does it and I asked him this.

APRS, with modern computers and all the fancy stuff you see they can do now.

Is there a way to monitor APRS with just a computer and soundcard?

I mean what can be in a old vintage 1980's TNC that can not be done with a computer program and soundcard instead?

And he sent me to this program..
I installed it and got it up and running. I even saw my Home computer on aprs.fi, so it's working.

NOW,,, If I have audio from 144.39 how do I put it into this program?

Joe WB9SBD

Re: Sorry for this Test

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

It works.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/11/2019 7:36 PM, Joe nss@... [aprsisce] wrote:
This is only a test just joined but can not view web page for group.
Want to see if E Mail part at least works.
Joe WB9SBD

Sorry for this Test

Joe WB9SBD
 

This is only a test just joined but can not view web page for group.
Want to see if E Mail part at least works.
Joe WB9SBD

Re: APRS-IS Servers

Gurdon Wolfe
 

Thank you Robert.
73, Don



On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:46 PM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]
wrote:
 

As I understand it, area specific.
Noam is for North America and rotates through available North American servers

Rotate can connect to any server world wide.
In theory there could be a slight difference in reponse from post to available, but it is so slight you would not notice it.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 5:59:18 PM EDT, w4gcw@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:


 

I've been using rotate.aprs2.net as my default server however recently it was suggested

that I change my server to noam.aprs2.net. I made the change but so far haven't noticed

any difference. What are the benefits of using one over the other? My location is east

central Florida.


73, Don

W4GCW

 

Re: APRS-IS Servers

Arnold Harding. - KQ6DI
 

Running as an IGate, I notice big differences in the server.  Maybe it's because I live in an area with multiple IGates, so connecting to a 'faster' server only makes it look like it's quicker (earliest into the system gets the count?).  In theory, from USA to Perth Australia might be 70 mS?  And another 70 mS back?  So maybe the difference is only an illusion.

Arnold, KQ6DI

On August 7, 2019 at 3:43 PM "Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 

 

As I understand it, area specific.
Noam is for North America and rotates through available North American servers

Rotate can connect to any server world wide.
In theory there could be a slight difference in reponse from post to available, but it is so slight you would not notice it.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 5:59:18 PM EDT, w4gcw@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:


 

 

I've been using rotate.aprs2.net as my default server however recently it was suggested

that I change my server to noam.aprs2.net. I made the change but so far haven't noticed

any difference. What are the benefits of using one over the other? My location is east

central Florida.


73, Don

W4GCW

 

 

 


 


 

Re: APRS-IS Servers

Rob Giuliano
 

As I understand it, area specific.
Noam is for North America and rotates through available North American servers

Rotate can connect to any server world wide.
In theory there could be a slight difference in reponse from post to available, but it is so slight you would not notice it.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 5:59:18 PM EDT, w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

I've been using rotate.aprs2.net as my default server however recently it was suggested

that I change my server to noam.aprs2.net. I made the change but so far haven't noticed

any difference. What are the benefits of using one over the other? My location is east

central Florida.


73, Don

W4GCW

 

APRS-IS Servers

Gurdon Wolfe
 

I've been using rotate.aprs2.net as my default server however recently it was suggested

that I change my server to noam.aprs2.net. I made the change but so far haven't noticed

any difference. What are the benefits of using one over the other? My location is east

central Florida.


73, Don

W4GCW

 

Re: pass code

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Answers interspersed below


On 8/5/2019 12:09 PM, 4aigpxtbnokpl3uy3ucsck34c547rgqty3ileaod@... [aprsisce] wrote:
I am trying to down load APRSISCE on my win 10 lap top.

when i click on the get pass code nothing happens.

AFAIK, there is no "get pass code" in the software.  If you are talking about the link in the Wiki, then it is supposed to compose an e-mail to APRSISCE-owner@...

when I enter the passcode I use on my desk top the screen just blinks and is not responding

As long as the callsign is the same, but the -SSIDs are different, the passcode will be the same.

The symptom you are describing about the screen just blinking tells me that you probably double-clicked the .EXE from within a .ZIP viewer.  You must create a new empty directory, unzip the downloaded stuff into that directory, and double-click the .EXE from within that newly created folder.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Filters - Subject changed

David Shrum
 

Randy and Group,

 

Thanks again, that greatly slowed down the scroller, I also blocked another one that went by a name instead of a call. Apparently every once in a while I would see a 'flood', at least I'm guessing that's what it was, that scroller would also highlight the MICON in a red-ish color and it would be scrolling very fast then it would slow down again after a bit. Don't take this as me complaining, but since I didn't know what it was I was just wanting to be able to not see it since I didn't know what it was.

 

The way I'm using this program is strictly internet, no RF so I don't know if I would see you call, WF5X call coming through or not. Anyway, thanks for providing me with the info I requested.

 

Dave N8PU

 

From: aprsisce@...
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 2:00 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Something mis-configured?

 

 

A little behind what you're seeing.

 

Traccar is running as a background service on my Android to do automatic reporting from my phone. 

( See that WF5X in the packet? That's me. )

 

Sometime over the course of the last few weeks, my work's internet access via the Guess Wireless connection has started to not find the traccar server.

Traccar stores up the unsuccessful position reports when network is unavailable and then dumps them en masse when a network connection is restored.

So, once it finally gets a connection to the server, it floods them out. 

 

I have found a way to keep the connection at work more stable, but it requires me to remember to start my VPN on my phone. 

Since I'm human, I forget sometimes, and then there's a flood when I remember to send start the VPN. 

 

MICON tactical calls are used by those of us associated with the multi-county reporting network used for Skywarn reporting to the NWS office for Detroit/Pontiac.

We run 90 sec reporting via traccar, which is autoforwarded to APRS-IS.  90 sec reports via APRS-IS is not really excessive, unless there's an unknown network connection loss, and the subsequent flood when it's restored. 

 

I'm trying to deal with the issue as best as I can with the limitations that my work has on their guess wireless access. 

 

But, to answer your question, yes, there is away to block them  -b/MICON*

 

73,

Randy

WF5X

Re: Something mis-configured?

David Shrum
 

Since I'm near Traverse City, yes that is what I want to do, Thanks.

Dave N8PU


On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 2:00 PM Randy Love rlove31@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

A little behind what you're seeing.

Traccar is running as a background service on my Android to do automatic reporting from my phone. 
( See that WF5X in the packet? That's me. )

Sometime over the course of the last few weeks, my work's internet access via the Guess Wireless connection has started to not find the traccar server.
Traccar stores up the unsuccessful position reports when network is unavailable and then dumps them en masse when a network connection is restored.
So, once it finally gets a connection to the server, it floods them out. 

I have found a way to keep the connection at work more stable, but it requires me to remember to start my VPN on my phone. 
Since I'm human, I forget sometimes, and then there's a flood when I remember to send start the VPN. 

MICON tactical calls are used by those of us associated with the multi-county reporting network used for Skywarn reporting to the NWS office for Detroit/Pontiac.
We run 90 sec reporting via traccar, which is autoforwarded to APRS-IS.  90 sec reports via APRS-IS is not really excessive, unless there's an unknown network connection loss, and the subsequent flood when it's restored. 

I'm trying to deal with the issue as best as I can with the limitations that my work has on their guess wireless access. 

But, to answer your question, yes, there is away to block them  -b/MICON*

73,
Randy
WF5X


On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 12:58 PM David Shrum dave.n8pu@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

In the last week or so I saw complaints about what is showing up in the ticker of stations showing up, I thought I would add what I see a lot of, and of course doing a "whois" doesn't show me who it is. I see a lot of MICON-1, MICON-42, etc. I guess I should have paid more attention what was being said, but since basically the only thing I have done is set my pass code and location, and who I track..

I guess my question is, is there a filter that can block anything that has "MICON" in it from showing up? Regardless of whether it has a "-1", or "-2" or "-42". Thanks and I apologize in advance for asking the same question over again so quickly, most of that went over my head because of a lack of knowledge and understanding of what was happening. If this program was a "appliance" like what the "old hams" said would happen with the CW drop back a while ago, I would have to say guilty on both counts.

Thanks,
Dave N8PU

PS, sorry about the poor picture quality of the second picture, I couldn't get a screen capture of it with my computer so I had to take a picture of it with my cell phone camera.

PPS, I tried to add a filter to not show anything with MICON in it and obviously was missing something important.

2019-08-05T11:28:50.806 Parsing
2019-08-05T11:28:50.806 Parsing
2019-08-05T16:52:36.164 Parsing -MICON*
2019-08-05T16:52:36.164 Filter Error:Piece(-MICON*) missing / as second character
2019-08-05T16:53:23.595 Parsing

Re: Something mis-configured?

Randy Love
 

A little behind what you're seeing.

Traccar is running as a background service on my Android to do automatic reporting from my phone. 
( See that WF5X in the packet? That's me. )

Sometime over the course of the last few weeks, my work's internet access via the Guess Wireless connection has started to not find the traccar server.
Traccar stores up the unsuccessful position reports when network is unavailable and then dumps them en masse when a network connection is restored.
So, once it finally gets a connection to the server, it floods them out. 

I have found a way to keep the connection at work more stable, but it requires me to remember to start my VPN on my phone. 
Since I'm human, I forget sometimes, and then there's a flood when I remember to send start the VPN. 

MICON tactical calls are used by those of us associated with the multi-county reporting network used for Skywarn reporting to the NWS office for Detroit/Pontiac.
We run 90 sec reporting via traccar, which is autoforwarded to APRS-IS.  90 sec reports via APRS-IS is not really excessive, unless there's an unknown network connection loss, and the subsequent flood when it's restored. 

I'm trying to deal with the issue as best as I can with the limitations that my work has on their guess wireless access. 

But, to answer your question, yes, there is away to block them  -b/MICON*

73,
Randy
WF5X


On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 12:58 PM David Shrum dave.n8pu@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

In the last week or so I saw complaints about what is showing up in the ticker of stations showing up, I thought I would add what I see a lot of, and of course doing a "whois" doesn't show me who it is. I see a lot of MICON-1, MICON-42, etc. I guess I should have paid more attention what was being said, but since basically the only thing I have done is set my pass code and location, and who I track.

I guess my question is, is there a filter that can block anything that has "MICON" in it from showing up? Regardless of whether it has a "-1", or "-2" or "-42". Thanks and I apologize in advance for asking the same question over again so quickly, most of that went over my head because of a lack of knowledge and understanding of what was happening. If this program was a "appliance" like what the "old hams" said would happen with the CW drop back a while ago, I would have to say guilty on both counts.

Thanks,
Dave N8PU

PS, sorry about the poor picture quality of the second picture, I couldn't get a screen capture of it with my computer so I had to take a picture of it with my cell phone camera.

PPS, I tried to add a filter to not show anything with MICON in it and obviously was missing something important.

2019-08-05T11:28:50.806 Parsing
2019-08-05T11:28:50.806 Parsing
2019-08-05T16:52:36.164 Parsing -MICON*
2019-08-05T16:52:36.164 Filter Error:Piece(-MICON*) missing / as second character
2019-08-05T16:53:23.595 Parsing

Something mis-configured?

David Shrum
 

In the last week or so I saw complaints about what is showing up in the ticker of stations showing up, I thought I would add what I see a lot of, and of course doing a "whois" doesn't show me who it is. I see a lot of MICON-1, MICON-42, etc. I guess I should have paid more attention what was being said, but since basically the only thing I have done is set my pass code and location, and who I track.

I guess my question is, is there a filter that can block anything that has "MICON" in it from showing up? Regardless of whether it has a "-1", or "-2" or "-42". Thanks and I apologize in advance for asking the same question over again so quickly, most of that went over my head because of a lack of knowledge and understanding of what was happening. If this program was a "appliance" like what the "old hams" said would happen with the CW drop back a while ago, I would have to say guilty on both counts.

Thanks,
Dave N8PU

PS, sorry about the poor picture quality of the second picture, I couldn't get a screen capture of it with my computer so I had to take a picture of it with my cell phone camera.

PPS, I tried to add a filter to not show anything with MICON in it and obviously was missing something important.

2019-08-05T11:28:50.806 Parsing
2019-08-05T11:28:50.806 Parsing
2019-08-05T16:52:36.164 Parsing -MICON*
2019-08-05T16:52:36.164 Filter Error:Piece(-MICON*) missing / as second character
2019-08-05T16:53:23.595 Parsing

pass code

4aigpxtbnokpl3uy3ucsck34c547rgqty3ileaod@...
 

I am trying to down load APRSISCE on my win 10 lap top.

when i click on the get pass code nothing happens.

when I enter the passcode I use on my desk top the screen just blinks and is not responding

Re: Blocking DSTAR, DMR, WinLink from the map

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

That is the filter for what you receive from the APRS-IS.  It does not affect RF receptions at all.  See also:

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:automatic-filters

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/aprs-is-filters

http://www.aprs-is.net/javAPRSFilter.aspx


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/3/2019 11:03 AM, JD Delancy wrote:
So there's a way to block something unwanted.  can the configure/general/filter be constructed to reject a specific station?

   jd

Re: Blocking DSTAR, DMR, WinLink from the map

Arnold Harding. - KQ6DI
 

Yes, you can block a specific station AND D-Star, etc, but it can only be done with data/stations coming from the APRS-IS servers.  For example, I have this in my Client Configuration, Add Filter:

-b/KJ6DZB-3 -u/APBM*/APDG*/APWL*/APJI*

So this stops KJ6DZB-3 as well as D-Star, etc., but anything heard on RF will not be stopped.  So in this example, KJ6DZB-3 also transmits on RF, and I hear probably 99% of his transmissions on RF, so this filter will NOT stop that station.

Arnold, KQ6DI

On August 3, 2019 at 8:03 AM "JD Delancy w1jd@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 

So there's a way to block something unwanted.  can the configure/general/filter be constructed to reject a specific station?

   jd


 


 

Re: Blocking DSTAR, DMR, WinLink from the map

JD Delancy
 

So there's a way to block something unwanted.  can the configure/general/filter be constructed to reject a specific station?

   jd

Re: how to weed out unnecessary iGate's from my decodes?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Not sure what you mean by "weed out" and why you think that is necessary?

The IGate specification at http://www.aprs-is.net/IGateDetails.aspx says:

Gate all packets heard on RF to the Internet EXCEPT if any of the following are true:

  1. 3rd-party packets (data type } ).
    3rd-party packets should have all before and including the data type stripped and then the packet should be processed again starting with step 1 again.
  2. generic queries (data type ? ).
  3. packets with TCPIP, TCPXX, NOGATE, or RFONLY in the header (last 2 are optional).

There's nothing in there about not gating packets of other IGates, or not gating "unnecessary" packets received from RF.  As long as a packet is received from RF and doesn't match any of those conditions, it is gated to the APRS-IS.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/3/2019 7:52 AM, Bob KD7YZ kd7yz@... [aprsisce] wrote:
There is one 34/94 machine which seems to make an announcement every
five mins. That machine is close at 15 or 20 miles. Otherwise all is
fairly onsey-twosey, and quite a bit farther from me.

Here is a snip of the log

WinMain:2019-08-03T11:25:50.036 Restore Saved ALWAYS Enable
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:28:05.081 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031126z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:33:04.997 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031131z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:38:05.048 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031136z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:43:05.051 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031141z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:48:05.048 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031146z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V


any help would be appreciated

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how to weed out unnecessary iGate's from my decodes?

KD7YZ Bob
 

There is one 34/94 machine which seems to make an announcement every
five mins. That machine is close at 15 or 20 miles. Otherwise all is
fairly onsey-twosey, and quite a bit farther from me.

Here is a snip of the log

WinMain:2019-08-03T11:25:50.036 Restore Saved ALWAYS Enable
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:28:05.081 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031126z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:33:04.997 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031131z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:38:05.048 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031136z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:43:05.051 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031141z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:48:05.048 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031146z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V


any help would be appreciated

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901

Re: Blocking DSTAR, DMR, WinLink from the map

Gurdon Wolfe
 

Arnold and Lynn,
  Thank you both for responding. The reason it wasn't working for me was because
I was adding the filter under Configure->Scroller->Filter vs Configure->General
->Filter. I've added the filters and it seems to be working.
73, Don
W4GCW

    
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On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 06:53:18 PM EDT, ARNOLD HARDING kq6di@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

[I changed the subject line.]

I have the following in my "Add Filter" line of Configure -> General.

-u/APBM*/APDG*/APWL*/APJI*

This blocks DMR, DStar, Winlink and something I can't remember at the moment (JI) from appearing on the map.  It doesn't catch every one, so I could do more fine tuning, but it stops enough that I just get APRS items on the APRS screen.

Arnold, KQ6DI

On August 1, 2019 at 3:11 PM "w4gcw@... [aprsisce]" wrote:

 

Lynn,

  Here is a copy of my error file attempting to block DSTAR stations from showing  on my map.
 Are there any other options you can suggest I try?  Am I missing something in the format? I
 appreciate your help.

 2019-07-30T16:16:12.369 Parsing 
2019-07-30T16:16:12.369 Parsing -s//a/DW
2019-07-30T16:31:11.428 Parsing 
2019-08-01T19:52:11.943 Parsing -b/DSTAR*
2019-08-01T19:59:49.523 Parsing -b/#D
2019-08-01T20:25:27.846 Parsing -b/Da
2019-08-01T20:53:28.308 Parsing -b/D&
2019-08-01T21:28:29.347 Parsing -sDa
2019-08-01T21:28:29.347 Filter Error:Piece(-sDa) missing / as second character
2019-08-01T21:29:01.127 Parsing -s/Da

73, Don
W4GCW