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Re: how to weed out unnecessary iGate's from my decodes?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Not sure what you mean by "weed out" and why you think that is necessary?

The IGate specification at http://www.aprs-is.net/IGateDetails.aspx says:

Gate all packets heard on RF to the Internet EXCEPT if any of the following are true:

  1. 3rd-party packets (data type } ).
    3rd-party packets should have all before and including the data type stripped and then the packet should be processed again starting with step 1 again.
  2. generic queries (data type ? ).
  3. packets with TCPIP, TCPXX, NOGATE, or RFONLY in the header (last 2 are optional).

There's nothing in there about not gating packets of other IGates, or not gating "unnecessary" packets received from RF.  As long as a packet is received from RF and doesn't match any of those conditions, it is gated to the APRS-IS.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/3/2019 7:52 AM, Bob KD7YZ kd7yz@... [aprsisce] wrote:
There is one 34/94 machine which seems to make an announcement every
five mins. That machine is close at 15 or 20 miles. Otherwise all is
fairly onsey-twosey, and quite a bit farther from me.

Here is a snip of the log

WinMain:2019-08-03T11:25:50.036 Restore Saved ALWAYS Enable
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:28:05.081 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031126z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:33:04.997 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031131z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:38:05.048 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031136z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:43:05.051 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031141z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:48:05.048 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031146z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V


any help would be appreciated

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73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901



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how to weed out unnecessary iGate's from my decodes?

Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@...>
 

There is one 34/94 machine which seems to make an announcement every
five mins. That machine is close at 15 or 20 miles. Otherwise all is
fairly onsey-twosey, and quite a bit farther from me.

Here is a snip of the log

WinMain:2019-08-03T11:25:50.036 Restore Saved ALWAYS Enable
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:28:05.081 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031126z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:33:04.997 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031131z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:38:05.048 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031136z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:43:05.051 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031141z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V
WinMain:2019-08-03T11:48:05.048 RFtoIS:[AGW/UISS?]IGated
KG4DVE-1>APMI06,WIDE2-2,qAR,KD7YZ-1:@031146z3824.25N/08237.70W#WX3in1Plus2.0
U=11.8V


any help would be appreciated

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901


Re: Blocking DSTAR, DMR, WinLink from the map

Gurdon Wolfe
 

Arnold and Lynn,
  Thank you both for responding. The reason it wasn't working for me was because
I was adding the filter under Configure->Scroller->Filter vs Configure->General
->Filter. I've added the filters and it seems to be working.
73, Don
W4GCW

    
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On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 06:53:18 PM EDT, ARNOLD HARDING kq6di@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

[I changed the subject line.]

I have the following in my "Add Filter" line of Configure -> General.

-u/APBM*/APDG*/APWL*/APJI*

This blocks DMR, DStar, Winlink and something I can't remember at the moment (JI) from appearing on the map.  It doesn't catch every one, so I could do more fine tuning, but it stops enough that I just get APRS items on the APRS screen.

Arnold, KQ6DI

On August 1, 2019 at 3:11 PM "w4gcw@... [aprsisce]" wrote:

 

Lynn,

  Here is a copy of my error file attempting to block DSTAR stations from showing  on my map.
 Are there any other options you can suggest I try?  Am I missing something in the format? I
 appreciate your help.

 2019-07-30T16:16:12.369 Parsing 
2019-07-30T16:16:12.369 Parsing -s//a/DW
2019-07-30T16:31:11.428 Parsing 
2019-08-01T19:52:11.943 Parsing -b/DSTAR*
2019-08-01T19:59:49.523 Parsing -b/#D
2019-08-01T20:25:27.846 Parsing -b/Da
2019-08-01T20:53:28.308 Parsing -b/D&
2019-08-01T21:28:29.347 Parsing -sDa
2019-08-01T21:28:29.347 Filter Error:Piece(-sDa) missing / as second character
2019-08-01T21:29:01.127 Parsing -s/Da

73, Don
W4GCW

 


 


 


Re: Any way to block object or sender?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

The symbol filter is not an easy one to use.  Arnold, KQ6DI, has the right approach with the unproto filter which I also suggested back on 7/30. 

-u/APBM*/APDG*/APWL*/APJI*

If you wanted to block the D overlay on the a alternate table, the syntax would be:

-s//a/D

The full description from http://www.aprs-is.net/javAPRSFilter.aspx is:

s/pri/alt/over Symbol filter pri = symbols in primary table (| => /)
alt = symbols in alternate table (| => /)
over = overlay character (case sensitive)
For example:
s/->     This will pass all House and Car symbols (primary table)
s//#     This will pass all Digi with or without overlay
s//#/T   This will pass all Digi with overlay of capital "T"

And remember that any filter term can be prefixed with a minus (-) to block packets matching that filter.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/1/2019 6:11 PM, w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Lynn,
  Here is a copy of my error file attempting to block DSTAR stations from showing on my map.
 Are there any other options you can suggest I try?  Am I missing something in the format? I
 appreciate your help.

 2019-07-30T16:16:12.369 Parsing 
2019-07-30T16:16:12.369 Parsing -s//a/DW
2019-07-30T16:31:11.428 Parsing 
2019-08-01T19:52:11.943 Parsing -b/DSTAR*
2019-08-01T19:59:49.523 Parsing -b/#D
2019-08-01T20:25:27.846 Parsing -b/Da
2019-08-01T20:53:28.308 Parsing -b/D&
2019-08-01T21:28:29.347 Parsing -sDa
2019-08-01T21:28:29.347 Filter Error:Piece(-sDa) missing / as second character
2019-08-01T21:29:01.127 Parsing -s/Da

73, Don
W4GCW


Re: Blocking DSTAR, DMR, WinLink from the map

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

[I changed the subject line.]

I have the following in my "Add Filter" line of Configure -> General.

-u/APBM*/APDG*/APWL*/APJI*

This blocks DMR, DStar, Winlink and something I can't remember at the moment (JI) from appearing on the map.  It doesn't catch every one, so I could do more fine tuning, but it stops enough that I just get APRS items on the APRS screen.

Arnold, KQ6DI

On August 1, 2019 at 3:11 PM "w4gcw@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 

Lynn,

  Here is a copy of my error file attempting to block DSTAR stations from showing  on my map.
 Are there any other options you can suggest I try?  Am I missing something in the format? I
 appreciate your help.

 2019-07-30T16:16:12.369 Parsing 
2019-07-30T16:16:12.369 Parsing -s//a/DW
2019-07-30T16:31:11.428 Parsing 
2019-08-01T19:52:11.943 Parsing -b/DSTAR*
2019-08-01T19:59:49.523 Parsing -b/#D
2019-08-01T20:25:27.846 Parsing -b/Da
2019-08-01T20:53:28.308 Parsing -b/D&
2019-08-01T21:28:29.347 Parsing -sDa
2019-08-01T21:28:29.347 Filter Error:Piece(-sDa) missing / as second character
2019-08-01T21:29:01.127 Parsing -s/Da

73, Don
W4GCW

 


 


 


Re: Any way to block object or sender?

Gurdon Wolfe
 

Lynn,
  Here is a copy of my error file attempting to block DSTAR stations from showing on my map.
 Are there any other options you can suggest I try?  Am I missing something in the format? I
 appreciate your help.

 2019-07-30T16:16:12.369 Parsing 
2019-07-30T16:16:12.369 Parsing -s//a/DW
2019-07-30T16:31:11.428 Parsing 
2019-08-01T19:52:11.943 Parsing -b/DSTAR*
2019-08-01T19:59:49.523 Parsing -b/#D
2019-08-01T20:25:27.846 Parsing -b/Da
2019-08-01T20:53:28.308 Parsing -b/D&
2019-08-01T21:28:29.347 Parsing -sDa
2019-08-01T21:28:29.347 Filter Error:Piece(-sDa) missing / as second character
2019-08-01T21:29:01.127 Parsing -s/Da

73, Don
W4GCW


Re: Need some information.

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

First, when asking for assistance, it is always good to provide the full station ID of the instance you are asking about.  I see W7DXJ has 2 KPC-3 digipeaters (-1 and -12) and had 2 instances of APRSIS32 running yesterday (W7DXJ and W7DXJ-3).  It's good that the -SSIDs are unique, but which one are you planning to keep operating as the IGate?

The symbol that is displayed for a station is configurable.  The default for APRSIS32 is the computer.  To change this, click the computer symbol in Configure / General and select whatever symbol you want to use.  For the black-diamond with an I overlay, select the Overlay Table, Symbol 38, and Overlay 73 as shown in the following screen capture.

But apparently the black diamond I is deprecated.  According to http://www.aprs.org/symbols/symbols-new.txt, here's the symbol recommendations in APRS 1.2:

GATEWAYS: #&

/& = HF Gateway <= the original primary table definition

I& = Igate Generic (please use more specific overlay)

R& = Receive only IGate (do not send msgs back to RF)

P& = PSKmail node

T& = TX igate with path set to 1 hop only)

W& = WIRES-X as opposed to W0 for WiresII

2& = TX igate with path set to 2 hops (not generally good idea)

So pick the appropriate symbol from this list.

Now, on to IGating, do you have an RF port configured?  If so, what type and what TNC do you have connected, and have you verified that the TNC can communicate with the radio and decode packets outside of APRSIS32?  If you have a KPC-3+, it is recommended NOT to run it in KISS mode for extended periods of time.  Please read: https://packet-radio.net/kantronics-kpc3-kiss-considered-harmful/  Although further testing shows that if you tie the handshaking signals correctly in the cable, the problem does not manifest.

That said, the easiest RF port to configure is a Simply(KISS) type in APRSIS32 and a TNC that is locked into KISS mode.  See also: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/system:page-tags/tag/tnc

Once you have answered these questions, please fire up the APRSIS32 instance and let me know what callsign-SSID it is using.  There are some remote queries I can do to further diagnose the situation.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/31/2019 9:45 PM, Thomas Hutter k7tjh@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hello Lynn - KJ4ERJ, I was successful in downloading and installing the aprsisce / 32 software on Dick's W7DXJ, computer. it is now showing up on the aprs if google map as a computer. The plan was to get Dick's I-gate back up on line. It appears that I am missing something to make that happen. The computer is connected to a KPC 3 TNC and a radio but is not passing any incoming data. Is there a driver or some other program that I need to work with, to make that happen. Dicks computer is a Dell i3 with Windows 7 pro OS 64 bit. As I told you before, this is all new to me, so please help. I know that when an I-gate is connected it normally appears as a black diamond with an "I" inside it. The aprsisce /32 software is showing a good instal, so what more do I need to do, thank you.
73,
Tom K7TJH
On Monday, July 29, 2019, 10:36:32 PM MST, Thomas Hutter k7tjh@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

Hi Lynn, yes I have done that. I got the program to open with the screen to input your call sign. Then when trying to move the station marker to the proper location on the map. I can only scroll about three times. I get around the state of AZ and the program shuts down. I'm going to try uninstalling and reinstalling fresh, then try again.

I'll let you know how that goes. Thanks for getting back to me. 
73,
Tom K7TJH 


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:24 PM, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]
wrote:
 

Make sure you have created a new directory and unzipped the download into that directory before double-clicking the .EXE.   Double-clicking from within a .ZIP viewer will NOT work.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/29/2019 7:55 PM, Thomas Hutter k7tjh@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Greetings, I am new to aprsisce and I am trying helping a friend, Dick - W7DXJ, with his I-gate. Dick, has had a few strokes and is not able to do things for himself. So, I am here helping. Dick - W7DXJ, had an I-gate operational at his QTH for years. The computer he was using for his I-gate, crashed and took down the I-gate and all of it's information with it. We have a new computer with an OS of Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. I am in the process of trying to load aprsisce/32 program on to the new computer and having some difficulties, I can get his call sign entered, but when I go to move the station location on the map and zoom in, the program closes.
Any suggestions?
My second question is when I get to the place where I need a pass code, do I need to use Dick's old pass code, which I do not have, or do I apply for a new pass code for Dick W7DXJ? 
Any help you can provide would be helpful, thank you.

73,
Tom Hutter - K7TJH
Lake Havasu City, AZ


Re: Need some information.

Thomas Hutter
 

Hello Lynn - KJ4ERJ, I was successful in downloading and installing the aprsisce / 32 software on Dick's W7DXJ, computer. it is now showing up on the aprs if google map as a computer. The plan was to get Dick's I-gate back up on line. It appears that I am missing something to make that happen. The computer is connected to a KPC 3 TNC and a radio but is not passing any incoming data. Is there a driver or some other program that I need to work with, to make that happen. Dicks computer is a Dell i3 with Windows 7 pro OS 64 bit. As I told you before, this is all new to me, so please help. I know that when an I-gate is connected it normally appears as a black diamond with an "I" inside it. The aprsisce /32 software is showing a good instal, so what more do I need to do, thank you.
73,
Tom K7TJH

On Monday, July 29, 2019, 10:36:32 PM MST, Thomas Hutter k7tjh@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

Hi Lynn, yes I have done that. I got the program to open with the screen to input your call sign. Then when trying to move the station marker to the proper location on the map. I can only scroll about three times. I get around the state of AZ and the program shuts down. I'm going to try uninstalling and reinstalling fresh, then try again.

I'll let you know how that goes. Thanks for getting back to me. 
73,
Tom K7TJH 


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:24 PM, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]
<aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

Make sure you have created a new directory and unzipped the download into that directory before double-clicking the .EXE.   Double-clicking from within a .ZIP viewer will NOT work.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/29/2019 7:55 PM, Thomas Hutter k7tjh@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Greetings, I am new to aprsisce and I am trying helping a friend, Dick - W7DXJ, with his I-gate. Dick, has had a few strokes and is not able to do things for himself. So, I am here helping. Dick - W7DXJ, had an I-gate operational at his QTH for years. The computer he was using for his I-gate, crashed and took down the I-gate and all of it's information with it. We have a new computer with an OS of Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. I am in the process of trying to load aprsisce/32 program on to the new computer and having some difficulties, I can get his call sign entered, but when I go to move the station location on the map and zoom in, the program closes.
Any suggestions?
My second question is when I get to the place where I need a pass code, do I need to use Dick's old pass code, which I do not have, or do I apply for a new pass code for Dick W7DXJ? 
Any help you can provide would be helpful, thank you.

73,
Tom Hutter - K7TJH
Lake Havasu City, AZ


Re: Any way to block object or sender?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

KJ4DDM-B>APDG02,TCPIP*
KJ4DDM-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,KJ4DDM-GS:;KJ4DDM B *
KJ4AAB-B>APDG02,TCPIP*
KJ4AAB-S>APDG01,TCPIP*,qAC,KJ4AAB-GS:;KJ4AAB B *
AD4DZ-N>APDG03,TCPIP* (That's the only AD4DZ*)

So, add a -u/APDG* to your Additional Filter and these stations should no longer be passed to you from the APRS-IS.  And in fact, no DSTAR stations of any version should be passed.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/30/2019 7:25 AM, Don Wolfe w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Thanks Lynn. Here are some of the D-Star stations in my area.
KJ4DDM-B  KJ4DDM B
KJ4AAB-B   KJ4AAB B
AD4DZ-B     AD4DZ B

Thanks again for your quick reply.

73, Don
W4GCW


Re: Any way to block object or sender?

Gurdon Wolfe
 

Thanks Lynn. Here are some of the D-Star stations in my area.
KJ4DDM-B  KJ4DDM B
KJ4AAB-B   KJ4AAB B
AD4DZ-B     AD4DZ B

Thanks again for your quick reply.

73, Don
W4GCW


Re: Need some information.

Thomas Hutter
 

Hi Lynn, yes I have done that. I got the program to open with the screen to input your call sign. Then when trying to move the station marker to the proper location on the map. I can only scroll about three times. I get around the state of AZ and the program shuts down. I'm going to try uninstalling and reinstalling fresh, then try again.
I'll let you know how that goes. Thanks for getting back to me. 
73,
Tom K7TJH 


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:24 PM, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]
<aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

Make sure you have created a new directory and unzipped the download into that directory before double-clicking the .EXE.   Double-clicking from within a .ZIP viewer will NOT work.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/29/2019 7:55 PM, Thomas Hutter k7tjh@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Greetings, I am new to aprsisce and I am trying helping a friend, Dick - W7DXJ, with his I-gate. Dick, has had a few strokes and is not able to do things for himself. So, I am here helping. Dick - W7DXJ, had an I-gate operational at his QTH for years. The computer he was using for his I-gate, crashed and took down the I-gate and all of it's information with it. We have a new computer with an OS of Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. I am in the process of trying to load aprsisce/32 program on to the new computer and having some difficulties, I can get his call sign entered, but when I go to move the station location on the map and zoom in, the program closes.
Any suggestions?
My second question is when I get to the place where I need a pass code, do I need to use Dick's old pass code, which I do not have, or do I apply for a new pass code for Dick W7DXJ? 
Any help you can provide would be helpful, thank you.

73,
Tom Hutter - K7TJH
Lake Havasu City, AZ


Re: Need some information.

Rob Giuliano
 

For the program crashing, you will need more information.
However, my first guess is that you are running it from within the ZIP file, or in a location that limits acccess.

For Windows 7 and 10, you want to extract the APRSIS32.exe file into a folder which you can control permissions.
I always recommend a folder structure from the base ("C:\") that makes sense to your situation.
Personally, mine is structured as:
  C:\WinApps\Radio\APRS\APRSIS32
But I tend to play around with many APRS things and even more radio things, so 3 layers is helpful.
For your situation, C:\WinApps\APRSIS32 might be enough

As for the passcode:  Yes it needs to match the callsign used at the station.
This needs to be done off this list (owners list) with the callsign and verifiable information for the user.  This is typically full name as it appears in the FCC database (no nicknames and only use initials if they that way are in the database).  The process is pretty quick.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Monday, July 29, 2019, 9:36:24 PM EDT, Thomas Hutter k7tjh@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

Greetings, I am new to aprsisce and I am trying helping a friend, Dick - W7DXJ, with his I-gate. Dick, has had a few strokes and is not able to do things for himself. So, I am here helping. Dick - W7DXJ, had an I-gate operational at his QTH for years. The computer he was using for his I-gate, crashed and took down the I-gate and all of it's information with it. We have a new computer with an OS of Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. I am in the process of trying to load aprsisce/32 program on to the new computer and having some difficulties, I can get his call sign entered, but when I go to move the station location on the map and zoom in, the program closes.
Any suggestions?
My second question is when I get to the place where I need a pass code, do I need to use Dick's old pass code, which I do not have, or do I apply for a new pass code for Dick W7DXJ? 
Any help you can provide would be helpful, thank you.

73,
Tom Hutter - K7TJH
Lake Havasu City, AZ


Re: Need some information.

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Make sure you have created a new directory and unzipped the download into that directory before double-clicking the .EXE.   Double-clicking from within a .ZIP viewer will NOT work.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/29/2019 7:55 PM, Thomas Hutter k7tjh@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Greetings, I am new to aprsisce and I am trying helping a friend, Dick - W7DXJ, with his I-gate. Dick, has had a few strokes and is not able to do things for himself. So, I am here helping. Dick - W7DXJ, had an I-gate operational at his QTH for years. The computer he was using for his I-gate, crashed and took down the I-gate and all of it's information with it. We have a new computer with an OS of Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. I am in the process of trying to load aprsisce/32 program on to the new computer and having some difficulties, I can get his call sign entered, but when I go to move the station location on the map and zoom in, the program closes.
Any suggestions?
My second question is when I get to the place where I need a pass code, do I need to use Dick's old pass code, which I do not have, or do I apply for a new pass code for Dick W7DXJ? 
Any help you can provide would be helpful, thank you.

73,
Tom Hutter - K7TJH
Lake Havasu City, AZ


Re: Any way to block object or sender?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Look at the ToCall of the DSTAR stations and use a -u/ filter to knock them out.

If you provide a few example DSTAR station IDs, I can be more specific.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/29/2019 5:02 PM, w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:
I have checked the filters section and can't seem to find a way to block
DSTAR stations from appearing on my map. Any assistance would be
appreciated.

73, Don
W4GCW


Need some information.

Thomas Hutter
 

Greetings, I am new to aprsisce and I am trying helping a friend, Dick - W7DXJ, with his I-gate. Dick, has had a few strokes and is not able to do things for himself. So, I am here helping. Dick - W7DXJ, had an I-gate operational at his QTH for years. The computer he was using for his I-gate, crashed and took down the I-gate and all of it's information with it. We have a new computer with an OS of Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. I am in the process of trying to load aprsisce/32 program on to the new computer and having some difficulties, I can get his call sign entered, but when I go to move the station location on the map and zoom in, the program closes.
Any suggestions?
My second question is when I get to the place where I need a pass code, do I need to use Dick's old pass code, which I do not have, or do I apply for a new pass code for Dick W7DXJ? 
Any help you can provide would be helpful, thank you.

73,
Tom Hutter - K7TJH
Lake Havasu City, AZ


Re: Any way to block object or sender?

Mark, KE6BB
 

Bingo!  That describes it perfectly.  Thanks, Lynn.  

Mark,
KE6BB

-------- Original message --------
From: "'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
Date: 7/29/19 2:00 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Any way to block object or sender?

 

It's a problem of his choice of Symbol.  He has selected \l (backslash lower case L) which is an Area Object symbol.  See the Area Objects section of aprs101.pdf on page 60.  I suspect he's including a speed and heading in the packet, but that gets interpreted as the object type and color along with the size of the object.  Yep, as he moves around, the "Area Object" his packet is describing will flail rather interestingly.

He just needs to change his symbol to not be an Area Object.  There's nothing else wrong with his packets as I can see them.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/29/2019 4:19 PM, Mark Petiford rv6amark@... [aprsisce] wrote:
THIS IS NOT A FOOTPRINT PROBLEM!

Sadly, Toolbar>Screen>Labels>Footprint doesn't fix this problem.  It appears that the KJ6DZB-3 is sending telemetry in his position beacon, and APRSIS32 seems to display it as a multiline object (see attached screen capture), NOT a footprint.  Sometimes it is a circle, several minutes later it turns into a vertical line extending upward, and other times it is 2 vertical lines extending upward and downward (see attached capture). 

That isn't really the worst part though.  His relatively long position beacon is being sent at approximately 30 sec. to 1 minute intervals (appears it may be GPS dither) in the middle of one of the most densely populated APRS areas of the world using a path of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2. That is seldom necessary in that area.  WIDE2 digi's are very common in the area, and are usually located on very tall peaks, so coverage is very good.  When in that area, I usually change my path to WIDE2-1 and do as well as can be expected given the system saturation.  I have never seen the need for WIDE1.

I don't know anything about a SainSonic AP510 tracker, but it appears something is wrong.

Just my thoughts.  They are free, so take them for what they are worth.

Mark,
KE6BB

 

On Monday, July 29, 2019, 9:22:03 AM PDT, David Shrum dave.n8pu@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:


 
Wish I could remember just how long I have been using this program of Lynn's and just discovered today, (because someone asked a question) some "new" features to me. DUH, but I basically just use it to track my son when he is out and about. Thanks Fred N7FMH for pointing this out. Even though I already was using the "footprint", I didn't realize I was, now to 'play' with some of the other screen settings. 😊 Obviously I haven't read all of the WiKi.

Dave N8PU
=====
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:45 AM 'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

Toolbar Screen Labels Footprint

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:13 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Any way to block object or sender?

 

 

Where is "footprint"?

Arnold, KQ6DI



Re: Any way to block object or sender?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

BTW, there are currently 2 other stations on the planet (in the last 2 hours) using the Area Object symbol.  But neither of them has a speed/heading following it so no funky objects are drawn since the parse fails.

KJ6DZB-4 (Possibly where KJ6DZB-3 got it from, but it claims to be xastir)

EA3CNO-12 (Over in Europe)


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS.  Pretty cool: an area object with a track!

On 7/29/2019 4:19 PM, Mark Petiford rv6amark@... [aprsisce] wrote:
THIS IS NOT A FOOTPRINT PROBLEM!

Sadly, Toolbar>Screen>Labels>Footprint doesn't fix this problem.  It appears that the KJ6DZB-3 is sending telemetry in his position beacon, and APRSIS32 seems to display it as a multiline object (see attached screen capture), NOT a footprint.  Sometimes it is a circle, several minutes later it turns into a vertical line extending upward, and other times it is 2 vertical lines extending upward and downward (see attached capture). 

That isn't really the worst part though.  His relatively long position beacon is being sent at approximately 30 sec. to 1 minute intervals (appears it may be GPS dither) in the middle of one of the most densely populated APRS areas of the world using a path of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2. That is seldom necessary in that area.  WIDE2 digi's are very common in the area, and are usually located on very tall peaks, so coverage is very good.  When in that area, I usually change my path to WIDE2-1 and do as well as can be expected given the system saturation.  I have never seen the need for WIDE1.

I don't know anything about a SainSonic AP510 tracker, but it appears something is wrong.

Just my thoughts.  They are free, so take them for what they are worth.

Mark,
KE6BB

 

On Monday, July 29, 2019, 9:22:03 AM PDT, David Shrum dave.n8pu@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 
Wish I could remember just how long I have been using this program of Lynn's and just discovered today, (because someone asked a question) some "new" features to me. DUH, but I basically just use it to track my son when he is out and about. Thanks Fred N7FMH for pointing this out. Even though I already was using the "footprint", I didn't realize I was, now to 'play' with some of the other screen settings. 😊 Obviously I haven't read all of the WiKi.

Dave N8PU
=====
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:45 AM 'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

Toolbar Screen Labels Footprint

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:13 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Any way to block object or sender?

 

 

Where is "footprint"?

Arnold, KQ6DI



Re: Any way to block object or sender? [1 Attachment]

Gurdon Wolfe
 

I have checked the filters section and can't seem to find a way to block
DSTAR stations from appearing on my map. Any assistance would be
appreciated.

73, Don
W4GCW


Re: Any way to block object or sender?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

It's a problem of his choice of Symbol.  He has selected \l (backslash lower case L) which is an Area Object symbol.  See the Area Objects section of aprs101.pdf on page 60.  I suspect he's including a speed and heading in the packet, but that gets interpreted as the object type and color along with the size of the object.  Yep, as he moves around, the "Area Object" his packet is describing will flail rather interestingly.

He just needs to change his symbol to not be an Area Object.  There's nothing else wrong with his packets as I can see them.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/29/2019 4:19 PM, Mark Petiford rv6amark@... [aprsisce] wrote:
THIS IS NOT A FOOTPRINT PROBLEM!

Sadly, Toolbar>Screen>Labels>Footprint doesn't fix this problem.  It appears that the KJ6DZB-3 is sending telemetry in his position beacon, and APRSIS32 seems to display it as a multiline object (see attached screen capture), NOT a footprint.  Sometimes it is a circle, several minutes later it turns into a vertical line extending upward, and other times it is 2 vertical lines extending upward and downward (see attached capture). 

That isn't really the worst part though.  His relatively long position beacon is being sent at approximately 30 sec. to 1 minute intervals (appears it may be GPS dither) in the middle of one of the most densely populated APRS areas of the world using a path of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2. That is seldom necessary in that area.  WIDE2 digi's are very common in the area, and are usually located on very tall peaks, so coverage is very good.  When in that area, I usually change my path to WIDE2-1 and do as well as can be expected given the system saturation.  I have never seen the need for WIDE1.

I don't know anything about a SainSonic AP510 tracker, but it appears something is wrong.

Just my thoughts.  They are free, so take them for what they are worth.

Mark,
KE6BB

 

On Monday, July 29, 2019, 9:22:03 AM PDT, David Shrum dave.n8pu@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 
Wish I could remember just how long I have been using this program of Lynn's and just discovered today, (because someone asked a question) some "new" features to me. DUH, but I basically just use it to track my son when he is out and about. Thanks Fred N7FMH for pointing this out. Even though I already was using the "footprint", I didn't realize I was, now to 'play' with some of the other screen settings. 😊 Obviously I haven't read all of the WiKi.

Dave N8PU
=====
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:45 AM 'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

Toolbar Screen Labels Footprint

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 11:13 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Any way to block object or sender?

 

 

Where is "footprint"?

Arnold, KQ6DI



Re: Passcode

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Passcode sent off-list.  Others, please read:

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:passcode


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 7/29/2019 3:47 PM, John Butcher kn4blf@... [aprsisce] wrote:

Good afternoon,

I respectfully request a passcode to use this program. My name is John T. Butcher, my call sign is KN4BLF.  Thank you in advance for your help.

 

73,

 

John

KN4BLF

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

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