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Selecting a transmit path.

Steve Galbraith
 

Hello All,

I have to apologist, I have not been back to this group in some time. Life got in the way. I am a long time aprs user. I used ui-view for many years but it can not be upgraded any longer. We use aprs in the field for many things from search and rescue to marathons ect. I enjoy aprsis32 . Great software.!! I would like to be able to select the path for a message sent to another station. For instance if I want to send a message direct to another station who is close by or if we are in the field off the aprs network. Is there a chance that this may be implemented in the future?


Sincerely,

Steve Galbraith   KB7ITU 


Re: OSM Tile servers with authentication

Ryszard Labus
 

Thanks for reply.

I check this out.

R.

W dniu 2019-06-06 o 15:35, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] pisze:
 

Check your google maps licensing and usage policy.  Last I looked, they do not allow local caching of map tiles which APRSISCE/32 does.

And have you seen the ones mentioned on the wiki at the following URL?  If you try those and any of them do not work, please let us know and we'll try to get the Wiki updated.

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/tile-sets

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/6/2019 9:22 AM, Ryszard Labus r.labus@... [aprsisce] wrote:

I have setup few maps including google maps (satelite or hybrid) servers and url's bellow

Thunderforrest
Server: tile.thunderforest.com
URL: /outdoors/%z/%x/%y.png?apikey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
or
URL: /landscape/%z/%x/%y.png?apikey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
or
URL: /cycle/%z/%x/%y.png?apikey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Polish server UMPpcPL
Server: tiles.ump.waw.pl
URL: /ump_tiles/

Google maps
Server: mts1.google.com
URL: /vt/lyrs=y&hl=x-local&src=app&x=%x&y=%y&z=%z

lyrs=
    h = roads only
    m = standard roadmap
    p = terrain
    r = somehow altered roadmap
    s = satellite only
    t = terrain only
    y = hybrid

Open Topo Map
Server: alt.opentopomap.org
URL: /

Does anyone else have any other interesting maps?

SQ9MDD


W dniu 2019-06-03 o 15:47, 'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce] pisze:
 

The map (tiles) need a method to address them. If you can find the method, then they may be able to be used.

 

Which map are you thinking of?

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 7:06 AM< br>To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers with authentication

 

 

How to set up access to tile server that requires authentication?

When accessed via other applications, login dialog pops up, and after I
enter credentials, I get the map.

With APRSISCE/32 no login is asked and map is not displayed.

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Re: OSM Tile servers with authentication

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Check your google maps licensing and usage policy.  Last I looked, they do not allow local caching of map tiles which APRSISCE/32 does.

And have you seen the ones mentioned on the wiki at the following URL?  If you try those and any of them do not work, please let us know and we'll try to get the Wiki updated.

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/tile-sets

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/6/2019 9:22 AM, Ryszard Labus r.labus@... [aprsisce] wrote:

I have setup few maps including google maps (satelite or hybrid) servers and url's bellow

Thunderforrest
Server: tile.thunderforest.com
URL: /outdoors/%z/%x/%y.png?apikey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
or
URL: /landscape/%z/%x/%y.png?apikey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
or
URL: /cycle/%z/%x/%y.png?apikey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Polish server UMPpcPL
Server: tiles.ump.waw.pl
URL: /ump_tiles/

Google maps
Server: mts1.google.com
URL: /vt/lyrs=y&amp;hl=x-local&amp;src=app&amp;x=%x&amp;y=%y&amp;z=%z

lyrs=
    h = roads only
    m = standard roadmap
    p = terrain
    r = somehow altered roadmap
    s = satellite only
    t = terrain only
    y = hybrid

Open Topo Map
Server: alt.opentopomap.org
URL: /

Does anyone else have any other interesting maps?

SQ9MDD


W dniu 2019-06-03 o 15:47, 'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce] pisze:
 

The map (tiles) need a method to address them. If you can find the method, then they may be able to be used.

 

Which map are you thinking of?

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 7:06 AM< br>To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers with authentication

 

 

How to set up access to tile server that requires authentication?

When accessed via other applications, login dialog pops up, and after I
enter credentials, I get the map.

With APRSISCE/32 no login is asked and map is not displayed.

--
73,

YT9TP, Pedja
http://www.yt9tp.iz.rs


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Re: OSM Tile servers with authentication

Ryszard Labus
 

I have setup few maps including google maps (satelite or hybrid) servers and url's bellow

Thunderforrest
Server: tile.thunderforest.com
URL: /outdoors/%z/%x/%y.png?apikey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
or
URL: /landscape/%z/%x/%y.png?apikey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
or
URL: /cycle/%z/%x/%y.png?apikey=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Polish server UMPpcPL
Server: tiles.ump.waw.pl
URL: /ump_tiles/

Google maps
Server: mts1.google.com
URL: /vt/lyrs=y&amp;hl=x-local&amp;src=app&amp;x=%x&amp;y=%y&amp;z=%z

lyrs=
    h = roads only
    m = standard roadmap
    p = terrain
    r = somehow altered roadmap
    s = satellite only
    t = terrain only
    y = hybrid

Open Topo Map
Server: alt.opentopomap.org
URL: /

Does anyone else have any other interesting maps?

SQ9MDD


W dniu 2019-06-03 o 15:47, 'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce] pisze:
 

The map (tiles) need a method to address them. If you can find the method, then they may be able to be used.

 

Which map are you thinking of?

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 7:06 AM< br>To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers with authentication

 

 

How to set up access to tile server that requires authentication?

When accessed via other applications, login dialog pops up, and after I
enter credentials, I get the map.

With APRSISCE/32 no login is asked and map is not displayed.

--
73,

YT9TP, Pedja
http://www.yt9tp.iz.rs


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Re: Editing XML for digipeating

Gurdon Wolfe
 

Many thanks Rob for your instructions. I'll give that a try.
73, Don
W4GCW


GPX import/export

Ryszard Labus
 

Hello Lyn, guys.

I found a minor but troublesome problem in APRSIS32.
During the cooperation with the search and rescue team. While searching
for a missing person.
I got from them data in GPX format.  These were files with sectors to
search, and landmarks.
I imported it easily. But when exporting data from APRSIS32 , my file
was not compatible with their (Garmin Basecamp) GPS software.
After a brief analysis I found that this could be easily fixed by adding
the following entry in the file header.


    xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1"

The header before the fix:
<gpx version="1.1" creator="APRSIS32 2019/01/21 17:53">

The header after the patch:
<gpx version="1.1" creator="APRSIS32 2019/01/21 17:53"
xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1">

If you could fix it in the program to make the export file look like it
was after the fixes, it would be a great help.
Because of our (hams) well-developed cooperation with search and rescue
groups.


Best regards SQ9MDD

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Re: Editing XML for digipeating

Gurdon Wolfe
 


What I meant was the kam/kpc are out as far as using it as a digi. Editing the software is easier and cheapest.


On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 6:47 AM, Don Wolfe w4gcw@... [aprsisce]
<aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

Okay, using KAM/KPC is out. So now my question this, do I add 
 WIDE1-1=WIDE1*
above or below the line that contains 
in radio port?

    
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On Saturday, June 1, 2019, 3:18:04 PM EDT, Don Wolfe w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

I want to setup my station to digipeat. In the XML file under port 1, do I edit the line
line or do I add another line with WIDE1-1=WIDE1*

Also, using a KAM or KPC3Plus, what parms do I change to allow the tnc to digi APRS
traffic prior to putting it into KISS mode?

Any help with my problems would be greatly appreciated.

73, Don
W4GCW

    
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Re: Editing XML for digipeating

Rob Giuliano
 

Just curious, why is the KAM/KPC3 out?
   Any commercial TNC you use for RF will likely act the same.

A: Outside the port settings completely

As the wki shows ...
After the last
   

You will find another (seemingly extra)
   


Re: Editing XML for digipeating

Gurdon Wolfe
 

Okay, using KAM/KPC is out. So now my question this, do I add 
 WIDE1-1=WIDE1*
above or below the line that contains 
in radio port?

    
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https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FW4GCW-9&timerange=3600&tail=3600







On Saturday, June 1, 2019, 3:18:04 PM EDT, Don Wolfe w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

I want to setup my station to digipeat. In the XML file under port 1, do I edit the line
line or do I add another line with WIDE1-1=WIDE1* ?

Also, using a KAM or KPC3Plus, what parms do I change to allow the tnc to digi APRS
traffic prior to putting it into KISS mode?

Any help with my problems would be greatly appreciated.

73, Don
W4GCW

    
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Proud member since 1982

Where am I? Click link below.
https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FW4GCW-9&timerange=3600&tail=3600







Re: Editing XML for digipeating

Rob Giuliano
 

I think this may have been answered, but I found it in the SPM folder...

KPC3 and KAM will not DIGI (by themself) when in KISS mode.  The computer application (like APRSIS32) has to handle this function.  KISS mode is a simple Modem (modulation from bits to sound) only.  The computer send it bits (with some overhead) and the TNC turns it into the modulated sounds that get transmitted over the air.  On receive the TNC turns those modulated sounds back into bits and sends them to the computer (again with some overhead).

For APRSIS32 to act as a DIGI, you must edit the XML as described here: DigiPeating - APRSISCE/32 The future of Amateur Radio APRS

IMPORTANT:  the inside the port is ignored (furture possible implementatio, but not used in the current version).  You must palce the "common to all port" outside the port descriptions.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Saturday, June 1, 2019, 3:18:04 PM EDT, Don Wolfe w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

I want to setup my station to digipeat. In the XML file under port 1, do I edit the line
line or do I add another line with WIDE1-1=WIDE1* ?

Also, using a KAM or KPC3Plus, what parms do I change to allow the tnc to digi APRS
traffic prior to putting it into KISS mode?

Any help with my problems would be greatly appreciated.

73, Don
W4GCW

    
  Photoalbum/Logos/ARRL logo lg
Proud member since 1982

Where am I? Click link below.
https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FW4GCW-9&timerange=3600&tail=3600







Re: OSM Tile servers with authentication

Fred Hillhouse
 

The map (tiles) need a method to address them. If you can find the method, then they may be able to be used.

 

Which map are you thinking of?

 

Fred N7FMH

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 7:06 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers with authentication

 

 

How to set up access to tile server that requires authentication?

When accessed via other applications, login dialog pops up, and after I
enter credentials, I get the map.

With APRSISCE/32 no login is asked and map is not displayed.

--
73,

YT9TP, Pedja
http://www.yt9tp.iz.rs


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Re: OSM Tile servers with authentication

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

APRSISCE/32 doesn't currently support authenticated tile server access.  Can you provide details of the tile server you are attempting to access so I can see if this is feasible?

Other applications may be embedding a browser which handles the map display and authentication for them.  APRSISCE/32 implements its own individual tile fetching, caching, and stitching for better control over performance.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/3/2019 7:06 AM, YT9TP - Pedja @yt9tp [aprsisce] wrote:
How to set up access to tile server that requires authentication?

When accessed via other applications, login dialog pops up, and after I
enter credentials, I get the map.

With APRSISCE/32 no login is asked and map is not displayed.


OSM Tile servers with authentication

YT9TP - Pedja
 

How to set up access to tile server that requires authentication?

When accessed via other applications, login dialog pops up, and after I enter credentials, I get the map.

With APRSISCE/32 no login is asked and map is not displayed.

--
73,

YT9TP, Pedja
http://www.yt9tp.iz.rs


Re: Editing XML for digipeating

Gurdon Wolfe
 

Lynn,

Do I edit the line   or do I add another line with WIDE1-1=WIDE1* ?
If I add another line do I place it above that line or below it?



    
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On Saturday, June 1, 2019, 8:40:00 PM EDT, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:digipeating

As for the KPC-3 or KAM, I'll refer you to the specific TNC documentation.  But you probably don't want both APRSISCE/32 and the TNC both doing the digipeating.  Pick one or the other.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/1/2019 3:17 PM, Don Wolfe w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:
I want to setup my station to digipeat. In the XML file under port 1, do I edit the line
line or do I add another line with WIDE1-1=WIDE1* ?

Also, using a KAM or KPC3Plus, what parms do I change to allow the tnc to digi APRS
traffic prior to putting it into KISS mode?

Any help with my problems would be greatly appreciated.

73, Don
W4GCW

    
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Proud member since 1982

Where am I? Click link below.







Re: OSM Tile servers

ve3slm
 

Thanks Ryszard.  That worked!!


Re: OSM Tile servers

Ryszard Labus
 

try this way:

SQ9MDD

W dniu 2019-06-01 o 17:29, 'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce] pisze:
 

If a link has HTTPS rather than HTTP, then APRSIS32 will not pull tiles. I suspect this is the case for Thunderforest.

 

You should be able to put together the entire link and paste it into a browser.

tile.thunderforest.com/transport/apikey=apikey/9/143/185.png

tile.thunderforest.com/transport/apikey=apikey/9/143/185.png

 

Once you are successful with a returned image, look at the beginning of the link for HTTP or HTTPS.

If a link has HTTPS rather than HTTP, then APRSIS32 will not pull tiles. I suspect this is the case for Thunderforest.

 

APRSIS32 should have a TileServer entry that looks like this:

tile.thunderforest.com

/transport/apikey=apikey/%z/%x/%y.png

Or maybe:

tile.thunderforest.com

/transport/apikey=apikey/

 

As Lynn commented, “Server” should always be just the server.

 

I hope this helps!

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:42 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: OSM Tile servers

 

 

Try specifying a server of just tile.thunderforest.com and a URLPrefix of /transport/apikey=..../%z/%y/%x.png or whatever the URL should look like.  With what you have now, I'm sure the DNS translation of the Server is failing.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/31/2019 12:04 PM, hamradiojunk@... [aprsisce] wrote:

I am interested in the thunderforest server, but I haven't been able to get it to fetch tiles.  Here is the section of the XML file.  My APIKey has been blanked.  I would appreciate any help to get this working.

 

TIA

Dave VE3SLM

 



tile.thunderforest.com/transport/apikey=apikeyapikeyapikeyapikeyapikeyap
80
/
1
G:/Mapping/OSM Tiles/ThunderForest/

0
0
20
0
20
0




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Re: Editing XML for digipeating

Rob Giuliano
 

Some TNCs (Like Byonics TT4 and Argent Data Systems T3) can be in KISS mode and still handle other functions, but most commercial TNCs (KPC-3 and KAM) are pretty much a dumb MODEM in KISS mode.  Things like DIGI, mailboxes, etc. are unavailable in KISS mode.  To truly work with APRS applications like APRSIS32 the TNC really needs to be in KISS mode.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Saturday, June 1, 2019, 8:47:54 PM EDT, Don Wolfe w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:


 

I'd rather it be the software.



On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 8:40 PM, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]
wrote:
 

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:digipeating

As for the KPC-3 or KAM, I'll refer you to the specific TNC documentation.  But you probably don't want both APRSISCE/32 and the TNC both doing the digipeating.  Pick one or the other.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/1/2019 3:17 PM, Don Wolfe w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:
I want to setup my station to digipeat. In the XML file under port 1, do I edit the line
line or do I add another line with WIDE1-1=WIDE1* ?

Also, using a KAM or KPC3Plus, what parms do I change to allow the tnc to digi APRS
traffic prior to putting it into KISS mode?

Any help with my problems would be greatly appreciated.

73, Don
W4GCW

    
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Proud member since 1982

Where am I? Click link below.







Re: Editing XML for digipeating

Gurdon Wolfe
 

I'd rather it be the software.



On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 8:40 PM, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]
wrote:
 

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:digipeating

As for the KPC-3 or KAM, I'll refer you to the specific TNC documentation.  But you probably don't want both APRSISCE/32 and the TNC both doing the digipeating.  Pick one or the other.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/1/2019 3:17 PM, Don Wolfe w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:
I want to setup my station to digipeat. In the XML file under port 1, do I edit the line
line or do I add another line with WIDE1-1=WIDE1* ?

Also, using a KAM or KPC3Plus, what parms do I change to allow the tnc to digi APRS
traffic prior to putting it into KISS mode?

Any help with my problems would be greatly appreciated.

73, Don
W4GCW

    
  Photoalbum/Logos/ARRL logo lg
Proud member since 1982

Where am I? Click link below.







Re: Editing XML for digipeating

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:digipeating

As for the KPC-3 or KAM, I'll refer you to the specific TNC documentation.  But you probably don't want both APRSISCE/32 and the TNC both doing the digipeating.  Pick one or the other.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 6/1/2019 3:17 PM, Don Wolfe w4gcw@... [aprsisce] wrote:
I want to setup my station to digipeat. In the XML file under port 1, do I edit the line
line or do I add another line with WIDE1-1=WIDE1* ?

Also, using a KAM or KPC3Plus, what parms do I change to allow the tnc to digi APRS
traffic prior to putting it into KISS mode?

Any help with my problems would be greatly appreciated.

73, Don
W4GCW

    
  Photoalbum/Logos/ARRL logo lg
Proud member since 1982

Where am I? Click link below.







Editing XML for digipeating

Gurdon Wolfe
 

I want to setup my station to digipeat. In the XML file under port 1, do I edit the line
line or do I add another line with WIDE1-1=WIDE1* ?

Also, using a KAM or KPC3Plus, what parms do I change to allow the tnc to digi APRS
traffic prior to putting it into KISS mode?

Any help with my problems would be greatly appreciated.

73, Don
W4GCW

    
  Photoalbum/Logos/ARRL logo lg
Proud member since 1982

Where am I? Click link below.
https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FW4GCW-9&timerange=3600&tail=3600