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Re: OSM Tile servers - orders

Fred Hillhouse
 

Hi Arnold,

 

It is easy without crazy amounts of work.

 

Open the XML for editing. I prefer to use a program called Notepad++.

 

Look for the section that looks like this:

 

tile.openstreetmap.org

<Port>80

/

1

C:/APRSIS32/Tiles/Original/</Path>

1

14

5

0

19

<RevisionHours>0

 

You only have four so it will be quick. I have 97!

 

Cut and paste you’re the different blocks in the order you need them. Then save file. Don’t bother with changing the tileserver number. It gets renumbered automatically.

 

Good luck!

 

Fred N7FMH

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 3:11 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers - orders

 

 

Lynn,

Is there a way to change the order of the Tile Sets in APRSISCE, without excessive xml file editing?

I have four Tile Sets and it would be nice and easier to understand visually if I could put LynnsOSM Tile Set either first or just after the original OSM Tile set.

It just sounds like it could be dangerous xml file editing.

Arnold, KQ6DI

 




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Re: OSM Tile servers - orders

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

Lynn,

Is there a way to change the order of the Tile Sets in APRSISCE, without excessive xml file editing?

I have four Tile Sets and it would be nice and easier to understand visually if I could put LynnsOSM Tile Set either first or just after the original OSM Tile set.

It just sounds like it could be dangerous xml file editing.

Arnold, KQ6DI

 


Re: OSM Tile servers

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

The URL on my server wasn't the same tile, but here's those two.

Mine:

b.tile.openstreetmap.org:

But the FRENCH OpenStreetMap tile server (quoted by Fred) is using different rendering rules:


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/29/2019 1:14 PM, 'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce] wrote:

They may be a bit different in view. Look at these two tiles.

http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net:14171/hot/15/9875/12040.png

https://tile-a.openstreetmap.fr/hot/15/9875/12040.png

 

The underlying data will be the same. Even OSM changed their schemes over time.

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 12:22 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers [1 Attachment]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from Arnold Harding included below]

Lynn,

Can I have the files from your server go into the same directory as the files from OpenStreetMap.org?  In other words, are they the same and compatible tiles, just from a different server?

 

If that’s OK, then I assume I could have two different Map Tile sets configured into the same directory because it is really just one set of tiles.  So I can get slow delivery when I have the time, and “express delivery” when needed.  Am I still correct?

Thanks, Arnold, KQ6DI

 

From: 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 6:56 AM
To: APRSISCE Group
Subject: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers

 

 

Just thought I'd post an interesting comment from one of the OSM admin team:

> The tile.openstreetmap.org CDN is at breaking point.
> We now frequently push more than 3Tb per second of traffic, with over
> 22000 requests per second/
> We are reaching the limit of what our current stack/config can handle.

So, if you're using OSM's main tile servers, please do NOT do massive
downloads of tiles.  We don't want APRSISCE/32 to be blocked for everyone.

If you want to download large areas of tiles for offline use, you can
set up a Configure / Map / Tile Set pointing to my current OSM tile
server.  It's slow, but it'll eventually deliver your tiles.

Name: LynnsOSM
Server: ldeffenb.dnsalias.net : 14171
URL: /hot/
Min: 0 Retain:8 Max:20

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS.  Note that my ports 6360 and 14160 current deliver OSM tiles from
b.tile.openstreetmap.org.  If you have a tileset specifying one of these
ports, please consider changing it to 14171 if you can stand the lag.

 




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Re: OSM Tile servers

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Yes, I've had a rendering server running for over 2 years now. Entire planetary database, updated every hour from OSM data.

My server runs in a Ubuntu VMWare VM on my Windows server.  The VM has access to 6 cores, 6GB RAM, and 5 SSDs totalling 1.5TB of space distributed over several logical volume manager volumes with various database tables on each volume to distribute the I/O load.  The smallest SSD (111GB) is dedicated to holding the flatnodes file (for those that are familiar with OSM tile rendering servers).

So, the rendering is slow because it's not a screaming machine nor does it have access to loads of RAM (the server only has 24GB), but the biggest bottleneck is my outbound Internet bandwidth.  I've got 25.7Mbps down, but only 6.44Mbps up (just measured at speedtest.net).

Oh, and I recently moved my Ethereum test and main network clients into that VM.  Parity and geth are much more stable under Ubuntu than they were under Windoze.

If you want to see the munin performance graphs of the tile server, check out the following URL:

http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net:14171/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/index.html

(Ignore the Master Bath Hot Water temp, that's another whole story!)

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS.  If you want to set up your own OSM tile server, the instructions are at:

https://switch2osm.org/

And some notes about my next-to-last (re)build of the tile server is on the Wiki at:

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/tile-server

On 5/29/2019 11:43 AM, Pedja YT9TP yt9tp@uzice.net [aprsisce] wrote:
On 29.05.2019 15:56, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@arrl.net
[aprsisce] wrote:
If you want to download large areas of tiles for offline use, you can
set up a Configure / Map / Tile Set pointing to my current OSM tile
server.  It's slow, but it'll eventually deliver your tiles.

Name: LynnsOSM
Server: ldeffenb.dnsalias.net : 14171
URL: /hot/
Min: 0 Retain:8 Max:20
It seems you have set complete rendering server, not just cache?


Re: OSM Tile servers [1 Attachment]

Fred Hillhouse
 

They may be a bit different in view. Look at these two tiles.

http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net:14171/hot/15/9875/12040.png

https://tile-a.openstreetmap.fr/hot/15/9875/12040.png

 

The underlying data will be the same. Even OSM changed their schemes over time.

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 12:22 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers [1 Attachment]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from Arnold Harding included below]

Lynn,

Can I have the files from your server go into the same directory as the files from OpenStreetMap.org?  In other words, are they the same and compatible tiles, just from a different server?

 

If that’s OK, then I assume I could have two different Map Tile sets configured into the same directory because it is really just one set of tiles.  So I can get slow delivery when I have the time, and “express delivery” when needed.  Am I still correct?

Thanks, Arnold, KQ6DI

 

From: 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 6:56 AM
To: APRSISCE Group
Subject: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers

 

 

Just thought I'd post an interesting comment from one of the OSM admin team:

> The tile.openstreetmap.org CDN is at breaking point.
> We now frequently push more than 3Tb per second of traffic, with over
> 22000 requests per second/
> We are reaching the limit of what our current stack/config can handle.

So, if you're using OSM's main tile servers, please do NOT do massive
downloads of tiles.  We don't want APRSISCE/32 to be blocked for everyone.

If you want to download large areas of tiles for offline use, you can
set up a Configure / Map / Tile Set pointing to my current OSM tile
server.  It's slow, but it'll eventually deliver your tiles.

Name: LynnsOSM
Server: ldeffenb.dnsalias.net : 14171
URL: /hot/
Min: 0 Retain:8 Max:20

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS.  Note that my ports 6360 and 14160 current deliver OSM tiles from
b.tile.openstreetmap.org.  If you have a tileset specifying one of these
ports, please consider changing it to 14171 if you can stand the lag.

 




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Re: OSM Tile servers [1 Attachment]

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

You are correct in most of your assumptions.  I try to keep my rendering rules updated with the latest, but sometimes I lag behind for a few weeks.   The tiles are compatible, but they may be disjoint for some period of time if my server isn't using the same rendering rules as their server for a bit.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/29/2019 12:22 PM, Arnold Harding kq6di@... [aprsisce] wrote:

Lynn,

Can I have the files from your server go into the same directory as the files from OpenStreetMap.org?  In other words, are they the same and compatible tiles, just from a different server?

 

If that’s OK, then I assume I could have two different Map Tile sets configured into the same directory because it is really just one set of tiles.  So I can get slow delivery when I have the time, and “express delivery” when needed.  Am I still correct?

Thanks, Arnold, KQ6DI

 

From: 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 6:56 AM
To: APRSISCE Group
Subject: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers

 

 

Just thought I'd post an interesting comment from one of the OSM admin team:

> The tile.openstreetmap.org CDN is at breaking point.
> We now frequently push more than 3Tb per second of traffic, with over
> 22000 requests per second/
> We are reaching the limit of what our current stack/config can handle.

So, if you're using OSM's main tile servers, please do NOT do massive
downloads of tiles..  We don't want APRSISCE/32 to be blocked for everyone.

If you want to download large areas of tiles for offline use, you can
set up a Configure / Map / Tile Set pointing to my current OSM tile
server.  It's slow, but it'll eventually deliver your tiles.

Name: LynnsOSM
Server: ldeffenb.dnsalias.net : 14171
URL: /hot/
Min: 0 Retain:8 Max:20

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS.  Note that my ports 6360 and 14160 current deliver OSM tiles from
b.tile.openstreetmap.org.  If you have a tileset specifying one of these
ports, please consider changing it to 14171 if you can stand the lag.

 


Assistance please

Frank Kostelac
 

I have APRSis32 running  and it seems to function correctly with the exception of no RF transmit or receive.

The ports look good and I see the beacon on findu but no RF.

When I use putty, i see the data from the  TNC on the comm port but the app is not seeing it?

Its as if the comm port is not actually enabled?


Thanks


Frank


Re: OSM Tile servers

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

Lynn,

Can I have the files from your server go into the same directory as the files from OpenStreetMap.org?  In other words, are they the same and compatible tiles, just from a different server?

 

If that’s OK, then I assume I could have two different Map Tile sets configured into the same directory because it is really just one set of tiles.  So I can get slow delivery when I have the time, and “express delivery” when needed.  Am I still correct?

Thanks, Arnold, KQ6DI

 

From: 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 6:56 AM
To: APRSISCE Group
Subject: [aprsisce] OSM Tile servers

 

 

Just thought I'd post an interesting comment from one of the OSM admin team:

> The tile.openstreetmap.org CDN is at breaking point.
> We now frequently push more than 3Tb per second of traffic, with over
> 22000 requests per second/
> We are reaching the limit of what our current stack/config can handle.

So, if you're using OSM's main tile servers, please do NOT do massive
downloads of tiles.  We don't want APRSISCE/32 to be blocked for everyone.

If you want to download large areas of tiles for offline use, you can
set up a Configure / Map / Tile Set pointing to my current OSM tile
server.  It's slow, but it'll eventually deliver your tiles.

Name: LynnsOSM
Server: ldeffenb.dnsalias.net : 14171
URL: /hot/
Min: 0 Retain:8 Max:20

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS.  Note that my ports 6360 and 14160 current deliver OSM tiles from
b.tile.openstreetmap.org.  If you have a tileset specifying one of these
ports, please consider changing it to 14171 if you can stand the lag.

 


Re: OSM Tile servers

YT9TP - Pedja
 

On 29.05.2019 15:56, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@arrl.net [aprsisce] wrote:
If you want to download large areas of tiles for offline use, you can
set up a Configure / Map / Tile Set pointing to my current OSM tile
server.  It's slow, but it'll eventually deliver your tiles.
Name: LynnsOSM
Server: ldeffenb.dnsalias.net : 14171
URL: /hot/
Min: 0 Retain:8 Max:20
It seems you have set complete rendering server, not just cache?


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OSM Tile servers

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Just thought I'd post an interesting comment from one of the OSM admin team:

The tile.openstreetmap.org CDN is at breaking point.
We now frequently push more than 3Tb per second of traffic, with over
22000 requests per second/
We are reaching the limit of what our current stack/config can handle.
So, if you're using OSM's main tile servers, please do NOT do massive downloads of tiles.  We don't want APRSISCE/32 to be blocked for everyone.

If you want to download large areas of tiles for offline use, you can set up a Configure / Map / Tile Set pointing to my current OSM tile server.  It's slow, but it'll eventually deliver your tiles.

Name: LynnsOSM
Server: ldeffenb.dnsalias.net : 14171
URL: /hot/
Min: 0 Retain:8 Max:20

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS.  Note that my ports 6360 and 14160 current deliver OSM tiles from b.tile.openstreetmap.org.  If you have a tileset specifying one of these ports, please consider changing it to 14171 if you can stand the lag.


Re: Passcode Request

Fred Hillhouse
 

Please send your request to aprsisce-owner@...

Include your name and address.

 

Thanks!

 

Fred N7FMH

 

 

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Subject: [aprsisce] Re: Passcode Request

 

 




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Re: Passcode Request

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

If this was intended to be a new passcode request, please read:

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:passcode


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/29/2019 12:01 AM, ab8xg@... [aprsisce] wrote:


Re: Passcode Request

ab8xg
 


Re: What is "sound" used for in APRSIS32?

Greg Depew
 

I believe sound is the dings etc when you have windows sound turned on and you receive a message or have a port error. 



Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]"
Date: 5/27/19 19:41 (GMT-05:00)
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] What is "sound" used for in APRSIS32?

 

Sound doesn’t seem to do much of anything. At least I have never found anything.

 

Fred N7FMH

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 1:57 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] What is "sound" used for in APRSIS32?

 

 

Per the subject but specifically does APRSIS32 have the capability to synthetically voice spots or more importantly messages (such as in UI-View or
Xastir) - great for keeping eyes on the road while still monitoring selected APRS traffic and messages.    Thanks - Gord VE1AJF-9

 


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Re: What is "sound" used for in APRSIS32?

Fred Hillhouse
 

Sound doesn’t seem to do much of anything. At least I have never found anything.

 

Fred N7FMH

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 1:57 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] What is "sound" used for in APRSIS32?

 

 

Per the subject but specifically does APRSIS32 have the capability to synthetically voice spots or more importantly messages (such as in UI-View or
Xastir) - great for keeping eyes on the road while still monitoring selected APRS traffic and messages.    Thanks - Gord VE1AJF-9

 


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Passcode Request

Frank Kostelac
 

Request Pas Code for APRSISCE/32

Thanks

Frank / N7ZEV



Re: What is "sound" used for in APRSIS32?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Negative.  Sorry.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/27/2019 1:56 PM, gskiffing@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Per the subject but specifically does APRSIS32 have the capability to synthetically voice spots or more importantly messages (such as in UI-View or
Xastir) - great for keeping eyes on the road while still monitoring selected APRS traffic and messages.    Thanks - Gord VE1AJF-9



What is "sound" used for in APRSIS32?

Gordon Skiffington
 

Per the subject but specifically does APRSIS32 have the capability to synthetically voice spots or more importantly messages (such as in UI-View or
Xastir) - great for keeping eyes on the road while still monitoring selected APRS traffic and messages.    Thanks - Gord VE1AJF-9



Re: Multiple Instances of APRSIS?

WH6FQE
 

Rob,

I have no idea what happened. The only way I could bring the Tracker back into KISS mode was to shut APRSIS down and reattach the Tracker to BPQ32 which brought it into KISS mode, then shut BPQ32 back down and bring APRSIS back up. It stayed in KISS mode until I went into the Configure/Ports/SatGate screen and unchecked the Beacons box. When I did that, it took it back out of KISS mode and I had to go back through the BPQ32 process again to put it back into KISS mode.

For some reason, APRSIS will not put it into KISS mode when it starts up but BPQ32 will.

The Quiet Time is set to 0 and the port is Simply(KISS).

It shows to be in KISS mode now, however, it also shows to be Receive Only and will not transmit anymore.

RC
WH6FQE


Re: Multiple Instances of APRSIS?

Rob Giuliano
 

Filters don't do anything to the port - as far as sending commands, so if isn't the filter.

Are you sure your TNC is set to remain in KISS mode over power cyvce/reset and you are using a Simply(KISS) port?
  That, truly is thd best method.

Check you port settings for "Quiet Time".  If your not a Simply(KISS) port, It could be that a period of inactivity on the port is sending the Close/Open commands and reseeting the port.
  Of course Simply(KISS) has those cleared out.

Try Quiet Time zero.


On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 0:10, wh6fqe@... [aprsisce]
wrote:
 

Ok, not sure what happened now. I found the wiki page where it showed to add the filter:


b/RS0ISS*/W3ADO-1/ARISS d/RS0ISS*/W3ADO-1/ARISS

Yet once I added this, it kicked my SCS Tracker back out of KISS mode. What the heck?


RC
WH6FQE

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