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Re: my iPhone hotspot won't work for APRSISCE

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

Web browser works, so yes I entered the correct address & PW to connect to the network.  The iPhone doesn’t filter users, but from the user side appears like a WiFi router.  Lynn gave me a hint yesterday by suggesting I try connecting to http://noam.aprs2.net:14501 , and that did work. 

 

I have some more things I want to try when time permits, but suggestions appreciated.

One item I left out of the details, my phone connects to the LTE network, and is on Verizon.

 

Arnold, KQ6DI

 

From: 'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 7:23 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] my iPhone hotspot won't work for APRSISCE

 

 

Places to start looking.

 

Do you have to enable users? Even my Android needs enabled users.

Correct password to connect to network?

Do other PC applications work, (e.g., web browser)?

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:18 PM
To: aprsisce
Subject: [aprsisce] my iPhone hotspot won't work for APRSISCE

 

 

I need some help with this.  Unfortunately it’s more a computer & phone issue than APRSISCE, but maybe someone has encountered this.

I am using my iPhone as a hotspot for my Laptop PC.  It works on a browser and other things, except it will not allow connections to the IS servers for APRSISCE.  I don’t know why, and frankly haven’t had a lot of time to troubleshoot this.

The PC is running Windoz 10.

The PC also has Norton Antivirus.

The iPhone is an iPhone 8, with the latest software.

 

I really need to use APRSISCE in the field at events, and this isn’t helping.  My previous android phone would work as a hotspot to this exact same computer just fine, so it’s new with the iPhone, or a new Norton permission.

 

Any hints would be greatly appreciated.

Arnold, KQ6DI

 

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Re: my iPhone hotspot won't work for APRSISCE

Fred Hillhouse
 

Places to start looking.

 

Do you have to enable users? Even my Android needs enabled users.

Correct password to connect to network?

Do other PC applications work, (e.g., web browser)?

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:18 PM
To: aprsisce
Subject: [aprsisce] my iPhone hotspot won't work for APRSISCE

 

 

I need some help with this.  Unfortunately it’s more a computer & phone issue than APRSISCE, but maybe someone has encountered this.

I am using my iPhone as a hotspot for my Laptop PC.  It works on a browser and other things, except it will not allow connections to the IS servers for APRSISCE.  I don’t know why, and frankly haven’t had a lot of time to troubleshoot this.

The PC is running Windoz 10.

The PC also has Norton Antivirus.

The iPhone is an iPhone 8, with the latest software.

 

I really need to use APRSISCE in the field at events, and this isn’t helping.  My previous android phone would work as a hotspot to this exact same computer just fine, so it’s new with the iPhone, or a new Norton permission.

 

Any hints would be greatly appreciated.

Arnold, KQ6DI


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: my iPhone hotspot won't work for APRSISCE

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

It is quite possible that the iPhone is not being a truly open hotspot, but is running either a proxy or some sort of firewall.  The normal APRS-IS connection is to port 14580, not a standard port for Internet protocol.  There may be some APRS-IS servers out there that still offer connections on port 23 (the standard telnet port), but you'll have to do that research elsewhere.

One quick test is to try browsing to http://noam.aprs2.net:14501 which should bring up a status page.  If it doesn't, you'll know that the iPhone is likely blocking non-standard ports.  If the status page does come up, you won't actually have learned anything because the browser access may be forced through a proxy server which allows http access to anywhere.

If you have a telnet client installed on your Windows machine, try telnetting to your configured APRS-IS server on port 14580.  If that goes through, then APRSIS32 should have no trouble connecting to the server.  Note: if this paragraph is Greek to you, ignore it.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/1/2019 7:17 PM, Arnold Harding kq6di@... [aprsisce] wrote:

I need some help with this.  Unfortunately it’s more a computer & phone issue than APRSISCE, but maybe someone has encountered this.

I am using my iPhone as a hotspot for my Laptop PC.  It works on a browser and other things, except it will not allow connections to the IS servers for APRSISCE.  I don’t know why, and frankly haven’t had a lot of time to troubleshoot this.

The PC is running Windoz 10..

The PC also has Norton Antivirus.

The iPhone is an iPhone 8, with the latest software.

 

I really need to use APRSISCE in the field at events, and this isn’t helping.  My previous android phone would work as a hotspot to this exact same computer just fine, so it’s new with the iPhone, or a new Norton permission.

 

Any hints would be greatly appreciated.

Arnold, KQ6DI


Re: my iPhone hotspot won't work for APRSISCE

Hal Mueller
 

Charles Proxy is the tool of choice on Mac and iOS to trace and debug network problems. It will show you what’s trying to connect, what ports/addresses it’s using, and view packet contents (even for SSL traffic). 

On May 1, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Arnold Harding kq6di@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 

I need some help with this.  Unfortunately it’s more a computer & phone issue than APRSISCE, but maybe someone has encountered this.

I am using my iPhone as a hotspot for my Laptop PC.  It works on a browser and other things, except it will not allow connections to the IS servers for APRSISCE.  I don’t know why, and frankly haven’t had a lot of time to troubleshoot this.

The PC is running Windoz 10.

The PC also has Norton Antivirus.

The iPhone is an iPhone 8, with the latest software.

 

I really need to use APRSISCE in the field at events, and this isn’t helping.  My previous android phone would work as a hotspot to this exact same computer just fine, so it’s new with the iPhone, or a new Norton permission.

 

Any hints would be greatly appreciated.

Arnold, KQ6DI


my iPhone hotspot won't work for APRSISCE

Arnold Harding - KQ6DI
 

I need some help with this.  Unfortunately it’s more a computer & phone issue than APRSISCE, but maybe someone has encountered this.

I am using my iPhone as a hotspot for my Laptop PC.  It works on a browser and other things, except it will not allow connections to the IS servers for APRSISCE.  I don’t know why, and frankly haven’t had a lot of time to troubleshoot this.

The PC is running Windoz 10.

The PC also has Norton Antivirus.

The iPhone is an iPhone 8, with the latest software.

 

I really need to use APRSISCE in the field at events, and this isn’t helping.  My previous android phone would work as a hotspot to this exact same computer just fine, so it’s new with the iPhone, or a new Norton permission.

 

Any hints would be greatly appreciated.

Arnold, KQ6DI


Re: Issues Setting Up Second APRS Receiver

RC Anderson, Ph.D. KH6B
 

James,

Unfortunately, that is the conclusion that I was starting to come to as well.


RC
WH6FQE


Re: Ailunce HD1 GPS to Aprsisce

thanos bouloutis <bouloutisath@...>
 

Ok.thanks sorry 73 bye

 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 1:35 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Ailunce HD1 GPS to Aprsisce

 

 

Sorry that should have been Anytone AT-D878UV. Trying to do too many things at once here and not concentrating.

 

RC

WH6FQE


Re: Issues Setting Up Second APRS Receiver

James Ewen
 

You can’t run two radios with APRSISCE/32. 

The solution is to run two instances of APRSISCE/32, one with a terrestrial radio and associated settings, and the second with your satellite configuration. You can tie them together using a network port connection. 

James
VE6SRV

On Apr 28, 2019, at 9:04 PM, wh6fqe@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:

Robert,

The path settings in the XML file work because that was part of the issue I was having in getting the terrestrial APRS station to work properly. Once I got that set up correctly in there the digipeater started working correctly.

The necessary paths for terrestrial and SatGate systems are different and a universal setting won't work for both of them.

For instance, the terrestrial system uses: IS, WIDE1-1, WIDE2-2, etc. but the SatGate instead uses: ARISS, SGATE, WIDE2-2


RC
WH6FQE


Re: Issues Setting Up Second APRS Receiver

RC Anderson, Ph.D. KH6B
 

Robert,

The path settings in the XML file work because that was part of the issue I was having in getting the terrestrial APRS station to work properly. Once I got that set up correctly in there the digipeater started working correctly.

The necessary paths for terrestrial and SatGate systems are different and a universal setting won't work for both of them.

For instance, the terrestrial system uses: IS, WIDE1-1, WIDE2-2, etc. but the SatGate instead uses: ARISS, SGATE, WIDE2-2


RC
WH6FQE


Re: Issues Setting Up Second APRS Receiver

Rob Giuliano
 

I believe the DIGI and the PATH functions are universal.
The PATH and DIGI options "inside" the port settings are not used at this time, but place holders for the future.

Lynn can verify.
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



From: "wh6fqe@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 9:01 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: Issues Setting Up Second APRS Receiver

 
If I can get the KISS mode issue figured out, I think I am seeing another issue with running both a terrestrial igate and a SatGate on the same system. 

In APRSIS am I able to have different paths for the different radios? When I added the second radio, it moved the path coding under both of the radios in the xml file. I tried to add the correct paths under each one, but when I closed it and opened it back up, it had changed it back to just one path listing which is correct for the terrestrial APRS system, but not the SatGate.

Can there be two different radios, each with different paths on the system?

RC
WH6FQE



Re: Issues Setting Up Second APRS Receiver

RC Anderson, Ph.D. KH6B
 

If I can get the KISS mode issue figured out, I think I am seeing another issue with running both a terrestrial igate and a SatGate on the same system. 

In APRSIS am I able to have different paths for the different radios? When I added the second radio, it moved the path coding under both of the radios in the xml file. I tried to add the correct paths under each one, but when I closed it and opened it back up, it had changed it back to just one path listing which is correct for the terrestrial APRS system, but not the SatGate.

Can there be two different radios, each with different paths on the system?

RC
WH6FQE


Re: Issues Setting Up Second APRS Receiver

RC Anderson, Ph.D. KH6B
 

When I move the second system back over to BPQ32, the SCS Tracker is back in KISS mode, but when I move it back to APRSIS it takes it out of KISS mode.

Apparently APRSIS is not going to allow me to operate two separate APRS receivers on different frequencies.


RC
WH6FQE


Re: APRS frequency world map

RC Anderson, Ph.D. KH6B
 

Steve,

Well, I can only speak for here in the United States.

Terrestrial APRS frequency:  144.390MHz.
Satellite APRS frequency:  145.825MHz.


RC
WH6FQE


Issues Setting Up Second APRS Receiver

RC Anderson, Ph.D. KH6B
 

I am trying to get a second radio system set up as a receiver on 145.825MHz, this one using an SCS Tracker / DSP TNC, but when I took it off of the BPQ system and moved it over to the APRSIS system something pulled it out of KISS. 


The dip switches on the front of the TNC are set for KISS mode, but the KISS light is no longer turned on, so something in the APRSIS system must be telling it to come out of KISS mode.


The other receiver that I have running on 144.390 is working correctly (or at least was), and everything is set up the same way, but this one isnt wanting to work.


ANy clue what I could be doing wrong?


RC

WH6FQE


Re: Nickname Issue - Solved

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

!Shriek!s are not case sensitive.  Your observation is correct on that.  I figured on some mobiles it's harder to enter caps than lower, so I just made them insensitive.  It also helps avoid common operator error during entry.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 4/24/2019 9:32 AM, gil.chapin@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Thanks, Lynn.  I knew it would be something silly/obvious that I overlooked.

On a somewhat (event) related note, regarding shrieks, are they case sensitive?  It appears they are not, but I'd like the official word on that.

Gil Chapin, WB2UTI


Re: Nickname Issue - Solved

Gil
 

Thanks, Lynn.  I knew it would be something silly/obvious that I overlooked.

On a somewhat (event) related note, regarding shrieks, are they case sensitive?  It appears they are not, but I'd like the official word on that.

Gil Chapin, WB2UTI


APRS frequency world map

sbd sbd
 

Hi all

I want to update my world map of VHF frequencies. You might have seen the map sometimes modified but sometimes with my callsign G6UIM still there.

Anyway I want to check if frequencies are still the same and if there are any errors in it, I think there are as some of the info was really difficult to obtain, such as what the national radio society says and what is actually in use.

 

So the request is if you chat to someone on HF or via APRS please could you let me know, their APRS frequency

 

Will obviously release copyright free

 

Steve

G6UIM


Re: Nickname Issue - Solved

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Just so everyone can learn, nickname support can be enabled and disabled with a single menu option.  You'll find it under Screen / Labels / Nicknames / Use Nickname.  If that isn't checked, then none of the nicknames are used.

Gil, in your configuration file, this was not checked.  As soon as I checked, SAG-2 showed up on my map instead of WB2UTI-9.  Yes, I got lucky and you happened to be beaconing when I jsut did this test!

Check, your laptop and see if that isn't checked.  Once you check it, all of your nicknames should start working.  (I suspect they're all not working right now, not just SAG-2).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 4/23/2019 7:20 AM, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] wrote:

Gil,

Please send your APRSIS32.XML configuration file to KJ4ERJ @ arrl.net with the nicknames that you have in place and the exact steps you are doing to attempt the final nickname.  I'm sure I can figure it out and either fix it or at least describe a workaround and why it isn't working as expected.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 4/22/2019 7:59 PM, gil.chapin@... [aprsisce] wrote:

I think I understand about nicknames, but I'm having an issue I haven't figured out yet.


I've been entering the nickname information for an upcoming bike ride I'm helping support.  I got a list of the tactical call signs and the expected APRS call sign/SSIDs to be used and I've set up a whole bunch of them ahead of the event.


I started with no nicknames in the list (except for "ME").  I know I was doing it right because one station's label changed when he showed up unexpectedly.


I decided I might as well nickname my own station to its tactical call sign.  I've done that successfully before.  This time, when I tried to do that, it wouldn't "take".  It's been my experience in the past that this can happen because that nickname label is already assigned.  As far as I can tell, it wasn't.  I even searched the .xml file and it only occurred once in the nickname I'd just set up.


I should explain my circumstances.  I have a laptop in my vehicle that I use for APRS, using the APRSIS 32 program.  I have a D710 running in APRS mode and it feeds the laptop (I also have an FTM-400 which can also feed the laptop - the D710 is much better at decoding and it has many features the 400 doesn't have - but it doesn't "do" C4FM...).  My D710's call sign/SSID is WB2UTI-9 (actually, so is my 400 but I don't use them at the same time).  The program on the laptop is assigned WB23UTI-13 - deliberately different from the radios.  The laptop is connected to the internet via a Verizon hotspot and it has a GPS receiver hooked to it so the map follows me around.  That way, when my radio beacons, I can see whether my radio's beacon made it to the APRS-IS.  It usually does, and when it does it just shows up as a mobile station labelled "WB2UTI-9".  That's the "station" I was unable to nickname.


When I tried to set up the nickname for my own station (WB2UTI-9), the label on the screen would not change.  When I clicked on the WB2UTI-9 label, I was not offered the option of nicknaming the station.  When I picked it out of the scrolling list, I was not offered the option to nickname it.


I went inside the house and turned on my desktop PC, fired up APRSIS32 and nicknamed my mobile station (WB2UTI) and it instantly changed on the screen when the mobile radio beaconed.


Apparently, there's something fishy in the laptop in the vehicle, but I don't see another occurrence of. the nickname I used anywhere.  I just put 27 nicknames in there.  I really don't want to delete them all (using the "delete all" menu option) and start over again, but I guess that's one option.


There's likely some obvious error I've made, except it's not obvious to me yet.


Does anyone have any ideas about this?  


Gil Chapin, WB2UTI


Re: Nickname Issue

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Gil,

Please send your APRSIS32.XML configuration file to KJ4ERJ @ arrl.net with the nicknames that you have in place and the exact steps you are doing to attempt the final nickname.  I'm sure I can figure it out and either fix it or at least describe a workaround and why it isn't working as expected.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 4/22/2019 7:59 PM, gil.chapin@... [aprsisce] wrote:

I think I understand about nicknames, but I'm having an issue I haven't figured out yet.


I've been entering the nickname information for an upcoming bike ride I'm helping support.  I got a list of the tactical call signs and the expected APRS call sign/SSIDs to be used and I've set up a whole bunch of them ahead of the event.


I started with no nicknames in the list (except for "ME").  I know I was doing it right because one station's label changed when he showed up unexpectedly.


I decided I might as well nickname my own station to its tactical call sign.  I've done that successfully before.  This time, when I tried to do that, it wouldn't "take".  It's been my experience in the past that this can happen because that nickname label is already assigned.  As far as I can tell, it wasn't.  I even searched the .xml file and it only occurred once in the nickname I'd just set up.


I should explain my circumstances.  I have a laptop in my vehicle that I use for APRS, using the APRSIS 32 program.  I have a D710 running in APRS mode and it feeds the laptop (I also have an FTM-400 which can also feed the laptop - the D710 is much better at decoding and it has many features the 400 doesn't have - but it doesn't "do" C4FM...).  My D710's call sign/SSID is WB2UTI-9 (actually, so is my 400 but I don't use them at the same time).  The program on the laptop is assigned WB23UTI-13 - deliberately different from the radios.  The laptop is connected to the internet via a Verizon hotspot and it has a GPS receiver hooked to it so the map follows me around.  That way, when my radio beacons, I can see whether my radio's beacon made it to the APRS-IS.  It usually does, and when it does it just shows up as a mobile station labelled "WB2UTI-9".  That's the "station" I was unable to nickname.


When I tried to set up the nickname for my own station (WB2UTI-9), the label on the screen would not change.  When I clicked on the WB2UTI-9 label, I was not offered the option of nicknaming the station.  When I picked it out of the scrolling list, I was not offered the option to nickname it.


I went inside the house and turned on my desktop PC, fired up APRSIS32 and nicknamed my mobile station (WB2UTI) and it instantly changed on the screen when the mobile radio beaconed.


Apparently, there's something fishy in the laptop in the vehicle, but I don't see another occurrence of. the nickname I used anywhere.  I just put 27 nicknames in there.  I really don't want to delete them all (using the "delete all" menu option) and start over again, but I guess that's one option.


There's likely some obvious error I've made, except it's not obvious to me yet.


Does anyone have any ideas about this?  


Gil Chapin, WB2UTI


Re: Nickname Issue

Gil
 

It's not a "race" as such, it's the National MS Society's "Citrus Tour" fund-raising ride in Central Florida.  It's two days, the 4th and 5th of May, coming up soon.

www.citrustour.org is the website for the amateur radio volunteers.

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