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Re: IS to RF

Mark, KE6BB
 

About 5 years ago I was driving through Flagstaff, Az. when the weather ahead began to concern me.  I glanced at my tablet PC (running APRSIS32 on RF only) and was pleased to see an NWS thunderstorm box just south of my route moving away from my route.  Apparently they were gating ONLY local NWS from IS to RF.  It was VERY useful information.

Mark
KE6BB


-------- Original message --------
From: "ka0azs@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
Date: 11/11/18 5:22 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: IS to RF

 

Could this be used to gate NWS weather warnings (Tornado, Severe thunderstorms) from the IS to local RF?  I.e. gate any object marked ILNTOR for instance to RF, preferably with just one hop.

There used to be someone (probably 10 years ago) that was doing that in the Dayton area, but I was never able to track them down or find out how they were doing it.  The bearing and distance information from the object provided good information when out and about in those conditions that you can't get from NOAA WX radio or local media.

Randy KAØAZS


Re: IS to RF

Randy Allen
 

Could this be used to gate NWS weather warnings (Tornado, Severe thunderstorms) from the IS to local RF?  I.e. gate any object marked ILNTOR for instance to RF, preferably with just one hop.

There used to be someone (probably 10 years ago) that was doing that in the Dayton area, but I was never able to track them down or find out how they were doing it.  The bearing and distance information from the object provided good information when out and about in those conditions that you can't get from NOAA WX radio or local media.

Randy KAØAZS


Re: IS to RF

Randy Allen
 

Could this be used to gate NWS weather warnings (Tornado, Severe thunderstorms) from the IS to local RF?  I.e. gate any object marked ILNTOR for instance to RF, preferably with just one hop.

There used to be someone (probably 10+ years ago) that was doing that in the Dayton area, but I was never able to track them down or find out how they were doing it.  The bearing and distance information from the object provided good information when out and about in those conditions that you can't get from NOAA WX radio or local media.

Randy KAØAZS


Re: IS to RF

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

These types of questions are best asked in the APRSISCE Yahoo group because I believe that for every question asked, there's probably a dozen people interested in the answer.  I'm copying my response to the group.  That said...

APRSISCE/32, in the Development version only, supports gating packets from the APRS-IS to local RF based on a filter setting. This is experimental at this point, and is not persistent, so you need to re-do the sequence after any IGate restart.  To set up this -IS to RF gating, follow this procedure.

1) Hit Control-G with the main window focused.  This will bring up a "Test Filter" window where you enter your desired filter.  In your case, the filter would be b/VE2SE-2.

2) Once the filter is entered, a new FilterTest trace window will come up.  I encourage you to monitor this window for some period of time (hours or days) to ensure that ONLY your desired packets are being selected by the filter.  Otherwise, go back to the Control-G window and tweak the filter.

3) Once you are satisfied with the filter setting, you can promote the filter to an IGate filter by typing Contol-I (eye) with the main window focused.  You will be asked to confirm your intent to set the IGate filter.  After clicking Yes, all filter-selected packets should be transmitted to RF as 3rd party packets.

4) Once you have confirmed your gating intent, a new IGate(Filter) trace log will open that will show all packets transmitted due to this setup.

Note that eventually I will be supporting multiple filters for such gating and will be making the filters persistent.  I also hope to provide rate-limiting via a so-called "Leaky Bucket" implementation (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaky_bucket).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS.  APRSISCE/32 extends the standard APRS-IS filter with a plus (+) operator.  Whereas normal APRS-IS filters are additive (any packet matching any term is passed) and provides a subtractive feature (-term) to exclude packets matching a term, my plus operator (+term) requires that all selected packets MUST match the plus term.  In other words, normal APRS-IS terms are joined with "OR".  The minus operator is joined with a "AND NOT".  My plus operator is joined with "AND".

On 11/8/2018 12:45 PM, Jean-Pierre Desilets wrote:
Hi Lynn
I have my  weather station ve2se-2  connected  to an  Ubuntu machine
sending  WX beacon rf(144.39) & internet (aprs is ).
On a windows machine i run  aprsis32   ve2se-10   igate   with filter  b/ve2se-2    &  rf  10.1473  mhz(robust packet).
How i can configure aprsis32  gating  ve2se-2  from internet  to rf   via ve2se-10  ?
Better having  a WX beacon than a dummy beacon on  10.1473 mhz.
Tnx for you help
73's de Jean-Pierre ve2se


Re: ISS pass entry not being gated

Steve Black
 

After checking your raw packets at the following URL, I would suggest that you not beacon your GridSquare in a status packet and (presumably) real coordinates in a normal beacon.  This will cause some APRS software to jitter your station between the imprecise GridSquare and the lat/lon coordinates.   
I have seen a station "jitter" as described above for over a year. Drives me crazy. I just sent this to him with   directions and fully expect it to solve the problem. His was as you discribed it with two locations one GPS coordinates and the other by grid square. Thanks for the insight. Steve kb1chu



Sent from the smartphone I said I'd  never get.


Re: ISS pass entry not being gated

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Ok, I'm assuming that the VU3NUF instance is the one using UZ7HO and a radio that is tuned to the ISS APRS frequency.

After checking your raw packets at the following URL, I would suggest that you not beacon your GridSquare in a status packet and (presumably) real coordinates in a normal beacon.  This will cause some APRS software to jitter your station between the imprecise GridSquare and the lat/lon coordinates.  In Configure / Status... simply uncheck the Status Report Enabled checkbox.

https://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=VU3NUF

How do you know that your received RS0ISS packet is not being gated?  Remember, the APRS-IS is dupe filtered, so if some other station gates the same packet that you received, you won't see it at aprs.fi.  You did not include a timestamp of any recently received RS0ISS packets, so we can't check the raw packets at the following URL to see if any other station gated one that you received.

https://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=RS0ISS&limit=1000&view=normal

If you check your IGate trace log, does it have anything in it?  Any packet gated from RF to the APRS-IS should appear in this trace log,   If you further have Enables / Logging / File Enabled, then all output to this trace log will appear in your APRSIS32.LOG files.  Simply search these logs for RFtoIS to see if anything has been gated.

There is NO filtering between RF reception and the APRS-IS per the specification.  If you receive a packet on an RF port and have a validated (proper passcode for your callsign) APRS-IS connection, the received packets WILL be delivered to your APRS-IS server.  What happens to them from there is up to the dupe suppression filter.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/7/2018 10:06 AM, Yatharth Verma halfcircle24@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hi!
Exactly 30 days ago I had asked the following:
My sound modem is able to decode the following string from an ISS pass:
1:Fm RS0ISS To CQ [13:37:20R] [+++]
>ARISS - International Space Station
but APRSIS32 is not gating it, where as I can see other users gated entries of the ISS from the same pass.

After a month of fiddling and observing I have found out that -
The ISS igate entries being shown in the stream are of some other pass

So now my question is that why is my ISS decoded string shown above not being gated?
1. My APRSIS32 beacons are shown in the IS stream
2. UZ7HO sound modem is working fine

Do I need to add any filter or edit the XML file for the format of the above shown string?

Kindly advice, am losing the plot..

73 de VU3NUF
Yatharth



Passthrough NMEA fix (Dev 2018/11/07 15:13)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

In testing ArgentData's new Tracker4, I discovered a minor bug in the configuration handling of ports with GPS/NMEA checked.  This bug can cause the Enable / GPS Enabled to be grayed out and enabled, or to remain grayed out even though a port is available that supplies GPS/NMEA data.  Everything is fine after a restart, but if the GPS/NMEA checkbox is changed, strange behavior could result.  This is fixed and is now consistent.   Enables / GPS Enabled should be available if you have a port with GPS/NMEA checked OR have a dedicated NMEA port configured.

Also, I've updated the ToCalls and Mic-E platform recognition to include Bob's latest from:

http://www.aprs.org/aprs11/tocalls.txt

http://aprs.org/aprs12/mic-e-types.txt

If anyone knows one or more stations running an SCS modem, please let me know the callsign-SSID.  I'd like to check them out to see if they are properly recognized.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


ISS pass entry not being gated

Yatharth Verma
 

Hi!
Exactly 30 days ago I had asked the following:
My sound modem is able to decode the following string from an ISS pass:
1:Fm RS0ISS To CQ [13:37:20R] [+++]
>ARISS - International Space Station
but APRSIS32 is not gating it, where as I can see other users gated entries of the ISS from the same pass.

After a month of fiddling and observing I have found out that -
The ISS igate entries being shown in the stream are of some other pass

So now my question is that why is my ISS decoded string shown above not being gated?
1. My APRSIS32 beacons are shown in the IS stream
2. UZ7HO sound modem is working fine

Do I need to add any filter or edit the XML file for the format of the above shown string?

Kindly advice, am losing the plot..

73 de VU3NUF
Yatharth


Re: picture

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Thank you Fred. It even shows up on aprs.fi if you zoom in close enough!

Another year older and ... BACON for Brunch!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 11/5/2018 2:09 PM, 'Fred Hillhouse' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce] wrote:


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Re: IGate Problem

Rob Giuliano
 

I am not sure if your copy of AGW is missing files.  You will need to read up on installing AGW on your computer and make sure that is running properly.  I recommend AGWMonitor as a tool for checking the installation without interfering with the data stream to your APRS client.

There are 2 separate configurations required:

1. From the menu
    >Configure >Ports >APRS-IS
    Here the IP or DNS setting needs to be an APRS-IS domain name.
        IP or DNS:  noam.aprs2.net
                  Port:  14580
    Also required is the APRS-IS passcode from Menu
      >Configure >General >Passcode
    If you do not have a passcode, the instructions are here: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:passcode
    Be sure and provide your name as it appears on your amateur radio license.

2. RF port using AGW style port
    From the menu
    >Configure >Ports >New port
    Here, the port type will be AGW and the name: VHF   {or anything you like to identify it by}
    Hit >Create>
   
    In the pop-up labeled Select Port type choose TCP/IP
       IP or Domain:   127.0.0.1    {or localhost}
                     Port:    8000           {Match you settings
     Double check all the setting of your new RF port (VHF(AGW) in the next pop-up.


Configuration 1 sets your port to the internet and the passcode is required for your data to be seen by the internet servers

Configuration 2 sets your AGW port for RF traffic inherits the callsign of the APRSISce/32 configuration.  That is why it is grayed out.
   agwtcpip.sys is a file used by the AGW application and "as far as I know" there is no callsign. 
   With AGWpe, the callsign-ssid should be in the configuration of the client using the AGW device driver.
   Opening AGWPI.INI or Port#.INI files did not show any callsigns

AGWTerminal that requires a callsign (where the default would be SV2AGW)?  AGW can only connect with 1 client (but the AGWMonitor can be connected as well  AGWMonitor does have a "MyCall" settings which would default to SV2AGW, so you should change that - even though it is only monitoring.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO





From: "Jerry Abrams jabrams4@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 10:17 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] IGate Problem

 
I reconfigured my Igate setup on a new computer.  Still using Win XP.  I
created a soundcard port labelled VHF.  I now get APRS-IS and VHF
alternating saying both are ok.  The APRS-IS port shows my callsign and
the icon (R inside a diamond) greyed out.  The VHF port has the callsign
space blank.  Which port do I enter the TCPIP info?  I have tried both
127.0.0.1 with port of 8000 or noam.aprs2.net with the port of 14580.  I
had to restart the computer and when I ran AGW I received a message that
agwtcpip.sys is not found.  There is the generic file with that name
having the default callsign of SV2AGW.  This is before I ran the
aprsisce program.  I am not seeing any packets transferred via I gate to
the internet.  So what am I doing wrong?  GPS Coordinates are correct.

Jerry WB2ZEX (WB2ZEX-10)




Re: aprs startup on raspberry pi

Rob Giuliano
 

Although there may be some expertise here in the APRSISce/32 Yahoo group, the most expertise on DireWolf and Raspberry Pi would be within those groups.

Since your question is how to get the Raspberry Pi to launch a program at boot, I would suggest starting there.
Since you are probably running a Linux OS on the Pi, you may even try a Linux group (or search).
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



From: "Frank R kh6bfd@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 1:11 AM
Subject: [aprsisce] aprs startup on raspberry pi

 
Hello All,

  I recently set up an igate using Direwolf on a raspberry pi.  How do I get Direwolf to start on power up automatically and stay up with a watchdog?

Thank you,

Frank
kh6bfd



aprs startup on raspberry pi

Frank R <kh6bfd@...>
 

Hello All,

  I recently set up an igate using Direwolf on a raspberry pi.  How do I get Direwolf to start on power up automatically and stay up with a watchdog?

Thank you,

Frank
kh6bfd


IGate Problem

jabrams2
 

I reconfigured my Igate setup on a new computer.  Still using Win XP.  I created a soundcard port labelled VHF.  I now get APRS-IS and VHF alternating saying both are ok.  The APRS-IS port shows my callsign and the icon (R inside a diamond) greyed out.  The VHF port has the callsign space blank.  Which port do I enter the TCPIP info?  I have tried both 127.0.0.1 with port of 8000 or noam.aprs2.net with the port of 14580.  I had to restart the computer and when I ran AGW I received a message that agwtcpip.sys is not found.  There is the generic file with that name having the default callsign of SV2AGW.  This is before I ran the aprsisce program.  I am not seeing any packets transferred via I gate to the internet.  So what am I doing wrong?  GPS Coordinates are correct.

Jerry WB2ZEX (WB2ZEX-10)


quicker way to read the aprs messages

Brad Ko6kL
 

whats the easy way to read the aprs message traffic ?
having to click 2 times in two places on the screen  to run the long list of messages is a bit awkward .
thank you.
ko6kL
jhill_81@...






Re: scs robust packet TNC

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

On 11/3/2018 9:50 AM, jeanpierredesilets jeanpierredesilets@gmail.com [aprsisce] wrote:


I configure the RFPort as simple kiss , edit aprsis32.xml using Lynn's link . It work ! Tnx guys
73's de Jean-Pierre ve2se
Glad to hear it!  I'll have to clean up that wiki page and add links to editing the XML and mention the Simply(KISS) at the start.  Or just add an SCS Tracker port type that supplies those to start with!

Although I'm considering reworking the APRSISCE/32 port support to use XML definition files similar to what I'm doing in APRSISMO. That way users can add their own and they (hopefully) "just work".

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Re: scs robust packet TNC

Jean-Pierre Desilets
 

I configure the RFPort as simple kiss , edit aprsis32.xml using Lynn's link . It work ! Tnx guys 
73's de Jean-Pierre ve2se


Envoyé depuis ma tablette Samsung


Re: scs robust packet TNC

Rob Giuliano
 

First, if your only purpose of the TNC is KISS mode with computer applications, it is common to set the TNC in KISS mode through some external configuration and use a Simply(KISS) port in APRSIS32.  Of course this would require that the TNC remains in KISS mode over power cycles / resets.  If your TNC does not remain in KISS mode after a reset or power cycle, then APRSIS32 can configure the TNC when it opens and closes the RF port.

You will need to review the manual for your model of the SCS Robust Packet TNC to determine:
1. If the TNC holds the KISS mode over power cycles
2. The commands required enter KISS mode and to exit KISS mode.

What to look for in the manual:
Search the manual (assume the PDF is searchable) for "KISS".  You should find the needed information, such as:
   Some TNC's use the INTerface command to change the TNC interface with the computer.  Something like INT KISS
   Others only require a simple command like "K" or "@K"
Don't forget to continue reading to find how to exit KISS as well

With #2, you can edit the XML's and replace the OpenCmd and CloseCmd with the commands from your manual.

I recommend starting with a Simply(KISS) port and editing the commands from there:
Example:
  ~!!0
  ~!!0
These are in Send ! Expected Response ! Time delay with the "!" to separate these commands.
In the above, the "~" suppresses the carriage return after the "empty command" to ensure nothing is sent.

So, from here we determine if more lines are required.  If so, just copy the line you need extra of.
Then edit what is between the > <, leaving the ! in place as the separator.

So 2 examples:
Example 1:
  !cmd:!1
  INT KISS!!2
  ^192^255^192!!0

Example 2:
  @K!!2
  ^192^255^192!!0

In example 1, I removed the "~" so that it will send  and wait for the TNC to send "cmd:" or 2 seconds.
It will then send the INT KISS command with and wait 2 seconds - this allows the TNC to respond.
   NOTE: with most TNCs, KISS mode does not send "anything", so you cannot look for a known response

In example 2, it sends @K (some TNCs use this command for entering KISS mode)
   NOTE:  If APRSIS32 does not like the @ character you can use ^064K)

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO





From: "jeanpierredesilets@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 2:03 AM
Subject: [aprsisce] scs robust packet TNC

 
i want to use my scs robust packet tnc in  kiss mode  with aprsis32 ,
need how to edit aprsis32.xml  to init it  in  kiss mode .
a copy  of the xml file  for  it  will  be apreciate.
tnx
Jean-Pierre  ve2se





Re: scs robust packet TNC

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Is this what you're looking for?

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/tnc-scs-dsp

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 11/1/2018 8:07 PM, jeanpierredesilets@... [aprsisce] wrote:
i want to use my scs robust packet tnc in  kiss mode  with aprsis32 ,
need how to edit aprsis32.xml  to init it  in  kiss mode .
a copy  of the xml file  for  it  will  be apreciate.
tnx
Jean-Pierre  ve2se




scs robust packet TNC

Jean-Pierre Desilets
 

i want to use my scs robust packet tnc in  kiss mode  with aprsis32 ,
need how to edit aprsis32.xml  to init it  in  kiss mode .
a copy  of the xml file  for  it  will  be apreciate.
tnx
Jean-Pierre  ve2se


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