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Re: scs robust packet TNC

Rob Giuliano
 

First, if your only purpose of the TNC is KISS mode with computer applications, it is common to set the TNC in KISS mode through some external configuration and use a Simply(KISS) port in APRSIS32.  Of course this would require that the TNC remains in KISS mode over power cycles / resets.  If your TNC does not remain in KISS mode after a reset or power cycle, then APRSIS32 can configure the TNC when it opens and closes the RF port.

You will need to review the manual for your model of the SCS Robust Packet TNC to determine:
1. If the TNC holds the KISS mode over power cycles
2. The commands required enter KISS mode and to exit KISS mode.

What to look for in the manual:
Search the manual (assume the PDF is searchable) for "KISS".  You should find the needed information, such as:
   Some TNC's use the INTerface command to change the TNC interface with the computer.  Something like INT KISS
   Others only require a simple command like "K" or "@K"
Don't forget to continue reading to find how to exit KISS as well

With #2, you can edit the XML's and replace the OpenCmd and CloseCmd with the commands from your manual.

I recommend starting with a Simply(KISS) port and editing the commands from there:
Example:
  ~!!0
  ~!!0
These are in Send ! Expected Response ! Time delay with the "!" to separate these commands.
In the above, the "~" suppresses the carriage return after the "empty command" to ensure nothing is sent.

So, from here we determine if more lines are required.  If so, just copy the line you need extra of.
Then edit what is between the > <, leaving the ! in place as the separator.

So 2 examples:
Example 1:
  !cmd:!1
  INT KISS!!2
  ^192^255^192!!0

Example 2:
  @K!!2
  ^192^255^192!!0

In example 1, I removed the "~" so that it will send  and wait for the TNC to send "cmd:" or 2 seconds.
It will then send the INT KISS command with and wait 2 seconds - this allows the TNC to respond.
   NOTE: with most TNCs, KISS mode does not send "anything", so you cannot look for a known response

In example 2, it sends @K (some TNCs use this command for entering KISS mode)
   NOTE:  If APRSIS32 does not like the @ character you can use ^064K)

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO





From: "jeanpierredesilets@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 2:03 AM
Subject: [aprsisce] scs robust packet TNC

 
i want to use my scs robust packet tnc in  kiss mode  with aprsis32 ,
need how to edit aprsis32.xml  to init it  in  kiss mode .
a copy  of the xml file  for  it  will  be apreciate.
tnx
Jean-Pierre  ve2se





Re: scs robust packet TNC

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Is this what you're looking for?

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/tnc-scs-dsp

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 11/1/2018 8:07 PM, jeanpierredesilets@... [aprsisce] wrote:
i want to use my scs robust packet tnc in  kiss mode  with aprsis32 ,
need how to edit aprsis32.xml  to init it  in  kiss mode .
a copy  of the xml file  for  it  will  be apreciate.
tnx
Jean-Pierre  ve2se




scs robust packet TNC

Jean-Pierre Desilets
 

i want to use my scs robust packet tnc in  kiss mode  with aprsis32 ,
need how to edit aprsis32.xml  to init it  in  kiss mode .
a copy  of the xml file  for  it  will  be apreciate.
tnx
Jean-Pierre  ve2se



Re: Kantronics KPC-3 + settings

Rob Giuliano
 

There are 2 methods:
1. Set your KPC in KISS mode (stays between power cycles)
    Use Simply(KISS) port in APRSIS32 - default OpenCmd and CloseCmd (top 2 lines)
    There is a couple of exe files by K5DAT to automate this,
     He also includes a batch file which changing state before (enables) and after (disables) running APRSIS32.
2. Configure APRSIS32 to place the KPC in KISS mode on start an exit KISS when closing.
    Edit the xml with OpenCmd and CloseCmd as indicated by Greg (K7UHP)

#1 is easiest in my opinion.  The upside of #2 is that if you have the TimeOut setting in APRSIS32, it will open and close the port which includes changing the INTerface setting.
 
I will also comment that most TNCs (KPC3s included) try (more accurately want to) use hardware flow control when in KISS mode.  This is because the "smarts" are in the computer, not in the TNC.  So as the computer gets all the data it can handle, it can "hold off" the data flow.  XFLOW uses software and keys in the data stream.  If a Byte comes through which is part of the XFLOW protocol, the computer and TNC will act on it as such, not as data.  This seems to impact TX data (PC to TNC) more than received data.  I HIGHLY recommend turning XFLOW OFF and using a full RS232 cable's flow control pins in KISS mode.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



From: "Greg Lundell greg@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Kantronics KPC-3 + settings

 
Create the new port in Configure>Ports>New Ports. When creating the new port for KPC3+ select Simply(KISS).  Close APRSIS32.  Open the APRSIS32.xml file where APRSIS32 is stored at with notepad or similar.  Look for for the port you just created.   You can verify as the RFPort Name should = KPC3+.   Replace this:
~!!0</OpenCmd>
~!!0</CloseCmd>
With:

^M~
^M~
XFLOW ON!!0
FULLDUP OFF!!0
INT KISS!!0
RESET!!0
^192^255^192~!!0
^C^C^C~!!0
Good Luck
Greg -K7UHP

On 10/30/2018 9:45 AM, n2djs@... [aprsisce] wrote:
 
Do I enter this directly into the TNC through PUTTY?



Re: Kantronics KPC-3 + settings

Greg
 

Create the new port in Configure>Ports>New Ports. When creating the new port for KPC3+ select Simply(KISS).  Close APRSIS32.  Open the APRSIS32.xml file where APRSIS32 is stored at with notepad or similar.  Look for for the port you just created.   You can verify as the RFPort Name should = KPC3+.   Replace this:

~!!0
~!!0

With:


^M~
^M~
XFLOW ON!!0
FULLDUP OFF!!0
INT KISS!!0
RESET!!0
^192^255^192~!!0
^C^C^C~!!0

Good Luck
Greg -K7UHP

On 10/30/2018 9:45 AM, n2djs@... [aprsisce] wrote:
 

Do I enter this directly into the TNC through PUTTY?


Re: Kantronics KPC-3 + settings

Dennis Schultz
 

Do I enter this directly into the TNC through PUTTY?


Re: Kantronics KPC-3 + settings

Greg
 

Here's the settings from the wiki for the KPC3+:

For participation in a shared APRS RF network:

^M~
^M~
XFLOW ON!!0
FULLDUP OFF!!0
INT KISS!!0
RESET!!0
^192^255^192~!!0
^C^C^C~!!0


Wiki  info:  http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/tnc-kpc-3


-Greg (K7UHP)


On 10/30/2018 9:10 AM, Dennis Schultz n2djs@... [aprsisce] wrote:
 

Does anyone have the list of Kantronics settings to correctly work with APRSIS32?


I hate to reinvent the wheel.


Kantronics KPC-3 + settings

Dennis Schultz
 

Does anyone have the list of Kantronics settings to correctly work with APRSIS32?

I hate to reinvent the wheel.


Re: Aprs

Rob Giuliano
 

In general, the first question would be:
  Did you put in the PassCode to connect to the APRS-IS server?

When requesting a psscode, it is most beneficial to provide your name as it appears on you license.  For instance if you go by Skip in your email signature, but you license has a different name, please provide the name that shows on your license or in the callsign lookup databases.

If you setup APRSISce/32 on your Raspberry Pi, please let us know how you went about that (WINE, or some other method).  Not only would more people be interested, but depending on how you setup the system, we can provide assistance accordingly.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO

P.S.
This discussion got side tracked on things like APRX and Xastir which are not topics for this group.
If you are using some other application like APRX or Xastir, you should be asking for assistance in their group.
 


From: "Frank kh6bfd@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs

 
I have set up APRS on my pi and after I logged in and am all connected it says that it received the data from a handheld device on the pi screen.  But, no reports are showing up on the APRS.fi map.  I must have missed something.  I might add that I am not yet any kind of expert on Linux operations. But, I am learning.  

Frank
Kh6bfd


Sent from my Commodore Vic-20



On Oct 29, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 
 APRX can easily be connected to APRSISce/32 through 2 means:
1. Server set to your APRSISce/32, and APRSISce/32 as a local server
    but then you weather data would be sent to APRS first, then, if so configured, to the APRS-IS.
2. TCP KISS device - straight serial to TCP as used with SOCAT or other serial to TCP interfaces
    The APRSISce/32 side uses a Simply(KISS) port with TCP/IP interface

 I do not think there is an "old fashion" AX.25 port in APRSISce/32, just the AGW port.  APRX does not offer an AGW port.

I've used APRX on a WRT54 and a raspberry Pi and fed into APRSIS32 with great success.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



From: "'Steve Daniels' steve@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Aprs

 
Non graphical APRX runs well on the Pi, I am using it to send my weather data to APRS.
APRX allows TCP links to other systems so it should be possible if I remember correctly to link it to APRSISCE, will give it a try and report back
 
Steve
G6UIM
 
From: aprsisce@... <aprsisce@...>
Sent: 26 October 2018 18:41
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs
 
 
Although this group is for APRSIS32, the discussion of the Pi and interfacing can be related by connecting it "to APRSIS32" from a client on the Pi. That is where a "mapless client" and even an old Pi seem to be most beneficial and work with linked cell phone connection, possibly even APRSISMO (if you can figure out how to connect through BT).
 
That said ...
Yes, the map handling has improved since the Tiger Maps went away.  Still a bit slow on the Pi though, but then I have not tried Xastir on a Pi 2 or Pi 3.
     Xastir has a Pi version available
          sudo apt-get install xastir
     or find it in the software installer on your Pi
     NOTE: this is not typically the latest, but it ensure you install everything you need 
                 compiling your own afterward is easier. 
 
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
 

From: "Greg D ko6th.greg@gmail. com [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs
 
 
I sometimes run YAAC on a Raspberry Pi 2 in my car, linked to my cell phone in hotspot mode for the connection.  Works pretty well.  I recently installed a mobile rig (though only QRP) in the car, so next step should be to get Direwolf running and drop the cell connection.

Xastir is a native Linux application, so I expect it should be possible, if not trivial, to compile it for the ARM platform and run it directly.  Oh, give or take the X-windows bit.  Yeah, that could be a problem...

But if you think back to the very early days of APRSISCE/32, I was one of the first to get APRSIS32 running under Linux/Wine on my underpowered x86 machine.  I did that because Xastir was so horribly slow at rendering the OSM maps, after the Tiger service was turned off.  It would be interesting to see if Xastir has gotten any better in this regard in the intervening years.  Otherwise, it will probably be too painful to use on the Pi too, even natively...

Greg  KO6TH

'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] wrote:
 
I've been told that WINE is really slow on the Pi, but I' have also read that some folks have successfully executed xastir on the Pi.

I was successful once in the past at running APRSISMO (under MOAI) on the Pi, but it would be better described as "crawling", not "running".  Screen updates were VERY slow because it was using X instead of native graphics.  I attempted to update MOAI to use the native support, but gave up before being successful.

That said, aprsc, a non-graphical APRS server, was actually tested on the Pi by Hessu (of aprs.fi fame) and AFAIK, he still has several Pis running aprsc in a data center somewhere.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 10/26/2018 7:35 AM, Adrian Burg ve6tdx@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hey guys.
Has anyone ever tried to run aprs on a pi3 ? I just picked one up and i am playing with it right now. I put castor on and give it a try. It worked fine. 
Thanks.
Adrian, ve6tdx
 
 
 





Re: Aprs

Frank <kh6bfd@...>
 

I have set up APRS on my pi and after I logged in and am all connected it says that it received the data from a handheld device on the pi screen.  But, no reports are showing up on the APRS.fi map.  I must have missed something.  I might add that I am not yet any kind of expert on Linux operations. But, I am learning.  

Frank
Kh6bfd


Sent from my Commodore Vic-20



On Oct 29, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 

 APRX can easily be connected to APRSISce/32 through 2 means:
1. Server set to your APRSISce/32, and APRSISce/32 as a local server
    but then you weather data would be sent to APRS first, then, if so configured, to the APRS-IS.
2. TCP KISS device - straight serial to TCP as used with SOCAT or other serial to TCP interfaces
    The APRSISce/32 side uses a Simply(KISS) port with TCP/IP interface

 I do not think there is an "old fashion" AX.25 port in APRSISce/32, just the AGW port.  APRX does not offer an AGW port.

I've used APRX on a WRT54 and a raspberry Pi and fed into APRSIS32 with great success.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



From: "'Steve Daniels' steve@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Aprs

 
Non graphical APRX runs well on the Pi, I am using it to send my weather data to APRS.
APRX allows TCP links to other systems so it should be possible if I remember correctly to link it to APRSISCE, will give it a try and report back
 
Steve
G6UIM
 
From: aprsisce@... <aprsisce@...>
Sent: 26 October 2018 18:41
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs
 
 
Although this group is for APRSIS32, the discussion of the Pi and interfacing can be related by connecting it "to APRSIS32" from a client on the Pi. That is where a "mapless client" and even an old Pi seem to be most beneficial and work with linked cell phone connection, possibly even APRSISMO (if you can figure out how to connect through BT).
 
That said ...
Yes, the map handling has improved since the Tiger Maps went away.  Still a bit slow on the Pi though, but then I have not tried Xastir on a Pi 2 or Pi 3.
     Xastir has a Pi version available
          sudo apt-get install xastir
     or find it in the software installer on your Pi
     NOTE: this is not typically the latest, but it ensure you install everything you need 
                 compiling your own afterward is easier. 
 
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
 

From: "Greg D ko6th.greg@gmail. com [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs
 
 
I sometimes run YAAC on a Raspberry Pi 2 in my car, linked to my cell phone in hotspot mode for the connection.  Works pretty well.  I recently installed a mobile rig (though only QRP) in the car, so next step should be to get Direwolf running and drop the cell connection.

Xastir is a native Linux application, so I expect it should be possible, if not trivial, to compile it for the ARM platform and run it directly.  Oh, give or take the X-windows bit.  Yeah, that could be a problem...

But if you think back to the very early days of APRSISCE/32, I was one of the first to get APRSIS32 running under Linux/Wine on my underpowered x86 machine.  I did that because Xastir was so horribly slow at rendering the OSM maps, after the Tiger service was turned off.  It would be interesting to see if Xastir has gotten any better in this regard in the intervening years.  Otherwise, it will probably be too painful to use on the Pi too, even natively...

Greg  KO6TH

'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] wrote:
 
I've been told that WINE is really slow on the Pi, but I' have also read that some folks have successfully executed xastir on the Pi.

I was successful once in the past at running APRSISMO (under MOAI) on the Pi, but it would be better described as "crawling", not "running".  Screen updates were VERY slow because it was using X instead of native graphics.  I attempted to update MOAI to use the native support, but gave up before being successful.

That said, aprsc, a non-graphical APRS server, was actually tested on the Pi by Hessu (of aprs.fi fame) and AFAIK, he still has several Pis running aprsc in a data center somewhere.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 10/26/2018 7:35 AM, Adrian Burg ve6tdx@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hey guys.
Has anyone ever tried to run aprs on a pi3 ? I just picked one up and i am playing with it right now. I put castor on and give it a try. It worked fine. 
Thanks.
Adrian, ve6tdx
 
 
 



Re: Aprs

Rob Giuliano
 

 APRX can easily be connected to APRSISce/32 through 2 means:
1. Server set to your APRSISce/32, and APRSISce/32 as a local server
    but then you weather data would be sent to APRS first, then, if so configured, to the APRS-IS.
2. TCP KISS device - straight serial to TCP as used with SOCAT or other serial to TCP interfaces
    The APRSISce/32 side uses a Simply(KISS) port with TCP/IP interface

 I do not think there is an "old fashion" AX.25 port in APRSISce/32, just the AGW port.  APRX does not offer an AGW port.

I've used APRX on a WRT54 and a raspberry Pi and fed into APRSIS32 with great success.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



From: "'Steve Daniels' steve@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Aprs

 
Non graphical APRX runs well on the Pi, I am using it to send my weather data to APRS.
APRX allows TCP links to other systems so it should be possible if I remember correctly to link it to APRSISCE, will give it a try and report back
 
Steve
G6UIM
 
From: aprsisce@...
Sent: 26 October 2018 18:41
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs
 
 
Although this group is for APRSIS32, the discussion of the Pi and interfacing can be related by connecting it "to APRSIS32" from a client on the Pi. That is where a "mapless client" and even an old Pi seem to be most beneficial and work with linked cell phone connection, possibly even APRSISMO (if you can figure out how to connect through BT).
 
That said ...
Yes, the map handling has improved since the Tiger Maps went away.  Still a bit slow on the Pi though, but then I have not tried Xastir on a Pi 2 or Pi 3.
     Xastir has a Pi version available
          sudo apt-get install xastir
     or find it in the software installer on your Pi
     NOTE: this is not typically the latest, but it ensure you install everything you need 
                 compiling your own afterward is easier. 
 
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
 

From: "Greg D ko6th.greg@gmail. com [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs
 
 
I sometimes run YAAC on a Raspberry Pi 2 in my car, linked to my cell phone in hotspot mode for the connection.  Works pretty well.  I recently installed a mobile rig (though only QRP) in the car, so next step should be to get Direwolf running and drop the cell connection.

Xastir is a native Linux application, so I expect it should be possible, if not trivial, to compile it for the ARM platform and run it directly.  Oh, give or take the X-windows bit.  Yeah, that could be a problem...

But if you think back to the very early days of APRSISCE/32, I was one of the first to get APRSIS32 running under Linux/Wine on my underpowered x86 machine.  I did that because Xastir was so horribly slow at rendering the OSM maps, after the Tiger service was turned off.  It would be interesting to see if Xastir has gotten any better in this regard in the intervening years.  Otherwise, it will probably be too painful to use on the Pi too, even natively...

Greg  KO6TH

'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] wrote:
 
I've been told that WINE is really slow on the Pi, but I' have also read that some folks have successfully executed xastir on the Pi.

I was successful once in the past at running APRSISMO (under MOAI) on the Pi, but it would be better described as "crawling", not "running".  Screen updates were VERY slow because it was using X instead of native graphics.  I attempted to update MOAI to use the native support, but gave up before being successful.

That said, aprsc, a non-graphical APRS server, was actually tested on the Pi by Hessu (of aprs.fi fame) and AFAIK, he still has several Pis running aprsc in a data center somewhere.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 10/26/2018 7:35 AM, Adrian Burg ve6tdx@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hey guys.
Has anyone ever tried to run aprs on a pi3 ? I just picked one up and i am playing with it right now. I put castor on and give it a try. It worked fine. 
Thanks.
Adrian, ve6tdx
 
 
 



Re: Aprs

sbd sbd
 

Non graphical APRX runs well on the Pi, I am using it to send my weather data to APRS.

APRX allows TCP links to other systems so it should be possible if I remember correctly to link it to APRSISCE, will give it a try and report back

 

Steve

G6UIM

 

From: aprsisce@...
Sent: 26 October 2018 18:41
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs

 

 

Although this group is for APRSIS32, the discussion of the Pi and interfacing can be related by connecting it "to APRSIS32" from a client on the Pi. That is where a "mapless client" and even an old Pi seem to be most beneficial and work with linked cell phone connection, possibly even APRSISMO (if you can figure out how to connect through BT).

 

That said ...

Yes, the map handling has improved since the Tiger Maps went away.  Still a bit slow on the Pi though, but then I have not tried Xastir on a Pi 2 or Pi 3.

     Xastir has a Pi version available

          sudo apt-get install xastir

     or find it in the software installer on your Pi

     NOTE: this is not typically the latest, but it ensure you install everything you need 

                 compiling your own afterward is easier. 

 

 

Robert Giuliano

KB8RCO

 


From: "Greg D ko6th.greg@gmail. com [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs

 

 

I sometimes run YAAC on a Raspberry Pi 2 in my car, linked to my cell phone in hotspot mode for the connection.  Works pretty well.  I recently installed a mobile rig (though only QRP) in the car, so next step should be to get Direwolf running and drop the cell connection.

Xastir is a native Linux application, so I expect it should be possible, if not trivial, to compile it for the ARM platform and run it directly.  Oh, give or take the X-windows bit.  Yeah, that could be a problem...

But if you think back to the very early days of APRSISCE/32, I was one of the first to get APRSIS32 running under Linux/Wine on my underpowered x86 machine.  I did that because Xastir was so horribly slow at rendering the OSM maps, after the Tiger service was turned off.  It would be interesting to see if Xastir has gotten any better in this regard in the intervening years.  Otherwise, it will probably be too painful to use on the Pi too, even natively...

Greg  KO6TH

'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] wrote:

 

I've been told that WINE is really slow on the Pi, but I' have also read that some folks have successfully executed xastir on the Pi.

I was successful once in the past at running APRSISMO (under MOAI) on the Pi, but it would be better described as "crawling", not "running".  Screen updates were VERY slow because it was using X instead of native graphics.  I attempted to update MOAI to use the native support, but gave up before being successful.

That said, aprsc, a non-graphical APRS server, was actually tested on the Pi by Hessu (of aprs.fi fame) and AFAIK, he still has several Pis running aprsc in a data center somewhere.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 10/26/2018 7:35 AM, Adrian Burg ve6tdx@... [aprsisce] wrote:

Hey guys.

Has anyone ever tried to run aprs on a pi3 ? I just picked one up and i am playing with it right now. I put castor on and give it a try. It worked fine. 

Thanks.

Adrian, ve6tdx

 

 

 


Re: Configure APRSIS32 for Kenwood TM-D710GA as Mobile

Gordon Davids
 

I just sent a long message off-line to Kent.  If it helps him, and if we get it right, we'll probably have something to report.

73 all,
Gordon / WJ3K


Re: Aprs

ve6tdx
 

I installed xastir on the pi3. It works very well on it.
The bluetooth is not compatible with my th74. For now I have the internet working on it. I will try to figure out how to hook either the 74 or the 710 kenwood on the pi3.
Thanks guys.
Adrian 


Re: Aprs

Rob Giuliano
 

Although this group is for APRSIS32, the discussion of the Pi and interfacing can be related by connecting it "to APRSIS32" from a client on the Pi. That is where a "mapless client" and even an old Pi seem to be most beneficial and work with linked cell phone connection, possibly even APRSISMO (if you can figure out how to connect through BT).

That said ...
Yes, the map handling has improved since the Tiger Maps went away.  Still a bit slow on the Pi though, but then I have not tried Xastir on a Pi 2 or Pi 3.
     Xastir has a Pi version available
          sudo apt-get install xastir
     or find it in the software installer on your Pi
     NOTE: this is not typically the latest, but it ensure you install everything you need 
                 compiling your own afterward is easier. 
 

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



From: "Greg D ko6th.greg@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs

 
I sometimes run YAAC on a Raspberry Pi 2 in my car, linked to my cell phone in hotspot mode for the connection.  Works pretty well.  I recently installed a mobile rig (though only QRP) in the car, so next step should be to get Direwolf running and drop the cell connection.

Xastir is a native Linux application, so I expect it should be possible, if not trivial, to compile it for the ARM platform and run it directly.  Oh, give or take the X-windows bit.  Yeah, that could be a problem...

But if you think back to the very early days of APRSISCE/32, I was one of the first to get APRSIS32 running under Linux/Wine on my underpowered x86 machine.  I did that because Xastir was so horribly slow at rendering the OSM maps, after the Tiger service was turned off.  It would be interesting to see if Xastir has gotten any better in this regard in the intervening years.  Otherwise, it will probably be too painful to use on the Pi too, even natively...

Greg  KO6TH


'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] wrote:
 
I've been told that WINE is really slow on the Pi, but I' have also read that some folks have successfully executed xastir on the Pi.

I was successful once in the past at running APRSISMO (under MOAI) on the Pi, but it would be better described as "crawling", not "running".  Screen updates were VERY slow because it was using X instead of native graphics.  I attempted to update MOAI to use the native support, but gave up before being successful.

That said, aprsc, a non-graphical APRS server, was actually tested on the Pi by Hessu (of aprs.fi fame) and AFAIK, he still has several Pis running aprsc in a data center somewhere.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 10/26/2018 7:35 AM, Adrian Burg ve6tdx@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hey guys.
Has anyone ever tried to run aprs on a pi3 ? I just picked one up and i am playing with it right now. I put castor on and give it a try. It worked fine. 
Thanks.
Adrian, ve6tdx





Re: Aprs

Greg D
 

I sometimes run YAAC on a Raspberry Pi 2 in my car, linked to my cell phone in hotspot mode for the connection.  Works pretty well.  I recently installed a mobile rig (though only QRP) in the car, so next step should be to get Direwolf running and drop the cell connection.

Xastir is a native Linux application, so I expect it should be possible, if not trivial, to compile it for the ARM platform and run it directly.  Oh, give or take the X-windows bit.  Yeah, that could be a problem...

But if you think back to the very early days of APRSISCE/32, I was one of the first to get APRSIS32 running under Linux/Wine on my underpowered x86 machine.  I did that because Xastir was so horribly slow at rendering the OSM maps, after the Tiger service was turned off.  It would be interesting to see if Xastir has gotten any better in this regard in the intervening years.  Otherwise, it will probably be too painful to use on the Pi too, even natively...

Greg  KO6TH


'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] wrote:

 

I've been told that WINE is really slow on the Pi, but I' have also read that some folks have successfully executed xastir on the Pi.

I was successful once in the past at running APRSISMO (under MOAI) on the Pi, but it would be better described as "crawling", not "running".  Screen updates were VERY slow because it was using X instead of native graphics.  I attempted to update MOAI to use the native support, but gave up before being successful.

That said, aprsc, a non-graphical APRS server, was actually tested on the Pi by Hessu (of aprs.fi fame) and AFAIK, he still has several Pis running aprsc in a data center somewhere.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 10/26/2018 7:35 AM, Adrian Burg ve6tdx@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hey guys.
Has anyone ever tried to run aprs on a pi3 ? I just picked one up and i am playing with it right now. I put castor on and give it a try. It worked fine. 
Thanks.
Adrian, ve6tdx




Re: Aprs

Rob Giuliano
 

If you are looking for a graphical APRS client/server for the Pi, many work well.

But if you are just using it to send "traffic" to another computer on the same network (as opposed to the IS), using SOCAT works very well.  This would require a TNC at the radio.  If you are using a sound card TNC, DireWolf already allows for the TCP Interface.

BTW, I saw an interesting "Pi Hack" (sent to me by Fred N7FMH) that I think is the coolest! 
This details a "Pocket AllStar Node", but the Pi modification to add a USB sound card is just "WAY COOL!" (IMHO)

Lets see:
  Pi Zero WH
  Pi Zero USB HAT
  SYBA USB sound card
  "Special interface board" => using a GPIO pin for PTT
  Direwolf  or any download
 ==================
  New TCP TNC     => Could probably make this a USB TNC as well        

A little modification to the USB HAT (attaching the SYBA sound card) or placing that on a board with a 5v reed relay for the PTT and a similar attachment directly to a "6-pin MiniDIN Data Jack" could be the perfect "data" interface.  You could Add a USB serial interface for CAT control as well.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO





From: "'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]" To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs

 
I've been told that WINE is really slow on the Pi, but I' have also read that some folks have successfully executed xastir on the Pi.

I was successful once in the past at running APRSISMO (under MOAI) on the Pi, but it would be better described as "crawling", not "running".  Screen updates were VERY slow because it was using X instead of native graphics.  I attempted to update MOAI to use the native support, but gave up before being successful.

That said, aprsc, a non-graphical APRS server, was actually tested on the Pi by Hessu (of aprs.fi fame) and AFAIK, he still has several Pis running aprsc in a data center somewhere.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 10/26/2018 7:35 AM, Adrian Burg ve6tdx@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hey guys.
Has anyone ever tried to run aprs on a pi3 ? I just picked one up and i am playing with it right now. I put castor on and give it a try. It worked fine. 
Thanks.
Adrian, ve6tdx




Re: Aprs

Menga
 

I can add some experience of using PI.
I installed on my PI3 another x86 emulator
(pi-qemu-wine

Image preconfigured to run x86 windows apps

RPi-Stretch-qemu-x86.zip
Released on 2018-03-25
It is a complete OS for PI with inside the emulation environment. I was able to run all windows executable present in the installation, but not any other application, even very simple, i tried to install.
At the end I gave up.
However, I use currently Xastir on the PI, it works fine.
Giuseppe (IZ1GCL)
 

From: Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 2:41 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Aprs
 
 

This question comes up here, every few months.
 
The issues with APRSISce/32 and the Pi are:
 
1. APRSISce/32 is compiled for x86 microprocessors and the Pi is an ARM-based processor
    There is ExaGear Desktop which allows x86 emulation, but (from what I understand) that is
     using an older WINE version
2. WINE is a compatibility layer which replaces function calls from "Windows OS" with "Linux OS" equivalent functions
    This has significant overhead for such a limited processor. 
     Pi 3 have functional applications run, but only those apps that were compiled for ARM processors (IoT mostly).
         (see #1 above)
 
Many of us have used a Pi as an intermediate processor for APRS. More or less a "smart" serial to TCP interface device.  This also works with "audio" to TCP by running Direwolf (or other "AGW style" interface), or a SDR on the Pi and use the TCP stream on another device.  This works well with other limited devices like tablets.
 
I hope this helps.
 
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



From: "Adrian Burg ve6tdx@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 7:38 AM
Subject: [aprsisce] Aprs
 
 
Hey guys.
Has anyone ever tried to run aprs on a pi3 ? I just picked one up and i am playing with it right now. I put castor on and give it a try. It worked fine.
Thanks.
Adrian, ve6tdx



Re: Aprs

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

I've been told that WINE is really slow on the Pi, but I' have also read that some folks have successfully executed xastir on the Pi.

I was successful once in the past at running APRSISMO (under MOAI) on the Pi, but it would be better described as "crawling", not "running".  Screen updates were VERY slow because it was using X instead of native graphics.  I attempted to update MOAI to use the native support, but gave up before being successful.

That said, aprsc, a non-graphical APRS server, was actually tested on the Pi by Hessu (of aprs.fi fame) and AFAIK, he still has several Pis running aprsc in a data center somewhere.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 10/26/2018 7:35 AM, Adrian Burg ve6tdx@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hey guys.
Has anyone ever tried to run aprs on a pi3 ? I just picked one up and i am playing with it right now. I put castor on and give it a try. It worked fine. 
Thanks.
Adrian, ve6tdx



Re: Aprs

Rob Giuliano
 

This question comes up here, every few months.

The issues with APRSISce/32 and the Pi are:

1. APRSISce/32 is compiled for x86 microprocessors and the Pi is an ARM-based processor
    There is ExaGear Desktop which allows x86 emulation, but (from what I understand) that is
     using an older WINE version 
2. WINE is a compatibility layer which replaces function calls from "Windows OS" with "Linux OS" equivalent functions 
    This has significant overhead for such a limited processor. 
     Pi 3 have functional applications run, but only those apps that were compiled for ARM processors (IoT mostly).
         (see #1 above)

Many of us have used a Pi as an intermediate processor for APRS. More or less a "smart" serial to TCP interface device.  This also works with "audio" to TCP by running Direwolf (or other "AGW style" interface), or a SDR on the Pi and use the TCP stream on another device.  This works well with other limited devices like tablets.

I hope this helps.

 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



From: "Adrian Burg ve6tdx@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 7:38 AM
Subject: [aprsisce] Aprs

 
Hey guys.
Has anyone ever tried to run aprs on a pi3 ? I just picked one up and i am playing with it right now. I put castor on and give it a try. It worked fine. 
Thanks.
Adrian, ve6tdx


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