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APRSIS32 Tracking

Jerome Lofton <LoftonJ@...>
 

Lynn,

I Just used the "Click --> Center" Tracking" functionality today for the
first time ... great feature to be able to lock onto a specific SSID.

I was tracking a friends progress on his flight in his airplane.

Is there a way to save the tracking log so that I can forward it to him as
reference for his speed & path ?

Thanks,
Jerome
WD4CWG


Re: Max distance

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Robin Williams wrote:
I notice that the max distance is 9999. i suspect that this is 999 miles.
Can this be expanded to cover the whole world.
Robin ZL3REW
If you mean on the Configuration Range number, just click in (or tab to)
the field and type whatever you want. I just didn't want the spin
button to go on and on and on and on like the EverReady Bunny,.

BTW, Note to all: Some configuration options require you to close and
restart the client to have full effect (like changing your callsign or
password). Others require at least a toggle of their respective enable
off and back on (like port changes on NMEA, KISS, or AGW). Others have
immediate effect (like the range number and Genius beaconing parameters).

I really need to work on some documentation, but adding new features and
tweaking performance is much more fun (and rewarding!).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: 2010/02/11 Release (Yes, a quick one!)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

m6xsd wrote:
Thanks Lynn,
You're quite welcome.

APRSIS32100211 seems to have fixed all my NMEA GPS (hard wired) problems. I will see if I can check Bluetooth later and with a bit of luck see if I can emulate a KISS TNC on a Netbook and try some RF at the weekend.
If you run into any issues, drop an e-mail to the group and/or an APRS message to KJ4ERJ-AP. If I'm at my laptop, I'll see what I can do to help. If it's a simple question, you can message KJ4ERJ-12 (my phone) and I'll try to answer even if I'm out and about.
73,
73 and best of luck getting it all going!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Colin
M6XSD.


Re: 2010/02/11 Release (Yes, a quick one!)

m6xsd <m6xsd@...>
 

Thanks Lynn,

APRSIS32100211 seems to have fixed all my NMEA GPS (hard wired) problems. I will see if I can check Bluetooth later and with a bit of luck see if I can emulate a KISS TNC on a Netbook and try some RF at the weekend.


73,
Colin
M6XSD.

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

There is a new release for both Win32 and Windows Mobile that fixes one
problem and optimizes screen redraws a bit.

If you have an NMEA GPS and don't see the time/date alternating in the
lower left corner even though you see satellite information across the
bottom, then this fix is for you!

If you'd like to see screen redraws be a bit peppier with less CPU load,
or would like the map dragging to go smoother (especially when taking a
maximized window back down to restored), then this release is also for you!

If you're not interested in either of those features, and have already
upgraded to 2010/02/09, then you'll probably be fine with that one.

As always, you can find the new release in the Files section of this
Yahoo Group. Just unzip the .EXE and drop it over the one that you've
been running and it's back to the races!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

The Background (if you have time to read)

This evening I was notified by N0ODV-9 that APRSIS32 wouldn't transmit
on his OpenTracker. Further diagnosis revealed that it wasn't actually
his OT at fault, but the fact that APRSIS32 didn't think he had a GPS
fix. It turns out that his GPS was putting more pieces into a $GPRMC
sentence than my client was expecting (I get really nit-picky when I
write code that interprets data according to a published protocol). The
problem was indicated when the client was showing satellite information
across the bottom, but not the GPS-based date and time in the lower
right corner. Even though it was claiming he had a 3D fix, I wasn't
getting the coordinate information. No coordinates, no position beaconing.

If you're trying to test RF transmissions, don't use the Transmit
button. All it does is attempt to force out a position update, but that
won't happen if you've got the min time set reasonably high or if the
client doesn't have a fix.

A more reliable way to force a transmission is to send a message to
someone. In the current version, APRSISCE/32 transmits outgoing
messages (and acks to incoming messages) via all available means. This
means it goes out APRS-IS, KISS, and AGW if they're all enabled. If you
send a message, you can expect to see PTT from your TNC.

My thanks goes out to N0ODV for his willingness and donation of time to
help me diagnose the NMEA GPS support issue.

Then, later this evening, I got a note from ZL3REW-8 that he wasn't
seeing any beacons on APRS-IS. A quick question confirmed that he was
also seeing satellites, but no times. I e-mailed him (her? Robin?) a
quick copy of the updated .EXE and the position packets were flying.
Another happy user.

Then I noticed some strange diagnostics in N0ODV's debug log file so I
got to looking around at the map painting code when coordinates were
changing or the map was dragged a small distance. I found that the
client was throwing away perfectly good map tiles (not really, just
swapping some pointers around) when it didn't need to. I implemented
better change detection in the loaded map tiles which results in
smoother map dragging and lower overhead / faster screen painting for
small map movements. This is especially visible if you maximize the
window, wait for it to catch up, and then restore it back to something
smaller. Dragging the map around in that window is MUCH smoother than
it was before.

Anyway, even N0ODV and ZL3REW should consider downloading this latest
copy. It's better than the one they got from me last night!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Max distance

Robin Williams <phonetech@...>
 

Hi Lynn,
I notice that the max distance is 9999. i suspect that this is 999 miles.
Can this be expanded to cover the whole world.
Robin ZL3REW
 


Good Work !

Jerome Lofton <LoftonJ@...>
 

Good work ... now, get some sleep, guys ;-)

73
Jerome
WD4CWG


Re: prefetch

Robin Williams <phonetech@...>
 

Thanks Lynn,
I thought you were going to bed.
Robin.

-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, 11 February 2010 7:09 p.m.
To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] prefetch

Robin Williams wrote:
With the prefetched files.
Are they able to be shared with other people.
eg Will the program reccognise them if you just fire them into someone
elses tiles folder.
Yep, you can prefetch on one machine, lift a copy of the OSMTiles directory
tree (or whatever you called it) and drop it onto another machine wherever
their configuration is looking for the tiles. You can even pre-fetch on
your desktop and drop it all onto your mobile phone if you have a way to
preserve the directory/file hierarchy!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ



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Re: prefetch

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Robin Williams wrote:
With the prefetched files.
Are they able to be shared with other people.
eg Will the program reccognise them if you just fire them into someone elses tiles folder.
Yep, you can prefetch on one machine, lift a copy of the OSMTiles directory tree (or whatever you called it) and drop it onto another machine wherever their configuration is looking for the tiles. You can even pre-fetch on your desktop and drop it all onto your mobile phone if you have a way to preserve the directory/file hierarchy!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Prefetch is Fixed

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Oh, one more thing that I forgot I did earlier today. I was out driving and tested out the map Prefetch on my phone under Windows Mobile. I was disappointed to discover that the prefetch queue flushed itself the instant I moved. (You can see the queue working by watching the expanding yellow circle or double-clicking on an empty map space). Well, when I got home I checked into it and found that the client thought the map moved enough to invalidate the normal prefetch that it does and the manually requested prefetch looked the same.

To make a long story short, manually requested map prefetches (View / Map / Prefetch) will now run to completion. You can even drag the map around and queue up a few more prefetches and then walk away while the tiles download. This should make it easier to build up a local cache of map details before going offline.

I'm looking forward to using this on my Tilt when I go to Spain in June. I'll preload the details for the whole country and will be able to use APRSISCE in a fully offline mode (I'm not paying International Roaming) to track me locally. If it works out right, I might be bringing my Alinco DR-135/T2-135 tracker with me (including the Nuvi 350) so I might even be RF tracking! Only time will tell.

Anyway, that's another fix that's in this morning's release. Download 2010/02/11's release when you get a chance.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


prefetch

Robin Williams <phonetech@...>
 

Hi Lynn,
thanks for the help yesterday.
With the prefetched files.
Are they able to be shared with other people.
eg Will the program reccognise them if you just fire them into someone elses tiles folder.
Cheers,
Robin.


2010/02/11 Release (Yes, a quick one!)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

There is a new release for both Win32 and Windows Mobile that fixes one problem and optimizes screen redraws a bit.

If you have an NMEA GPS and don't see the time/date alternating in the lower left corner even though you see satellite information across the bottom, then this fix is for you!

If you'd like to see screen redraws be a bit peppier with less CPU load, or would like the map dragging to go smoother (especially when taking a maximized window back down to restored), then this release is also for you!

If you're not interested in either of those features, and have already upgraded to 2010/02/09, then you'll probably be fine with that one.

As always, you can find the new release in the Files section of this Yahoo Group. Just unzip the .EXE and drop it over the one that you've been running and it's back to the races!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

The Background (if you have time to read)

This evening I was notified by N0ODV-9 that APRSIS32 wouldn't transmit on his OpenTracker. Further diagnosis revealed that it wasn't actually his OT at fault, but the fact that APRSIS32 didn't think he had a GPS fix. It turns out that his GPS was putting more pieces into a $GPRMC sentence than my client was expecting (I get really nit-picky when I write code that interprets data according to a published protocol). The problem was indicated when the client was showing satellite information across the bottom, but not the GPS-based date and time in the lower right corner. Even though it was claiming he had a 3D fix, I wasn't getting the coordinate information. No coordinates, no position beaconing.

If you're trying to test RF transmissions, don't use the Transmit button. All it does is attempt to force out a position update, but that won't happen if you've got the min time set reasonably high or if the client doesn't have a fix.

A more reliable way to force a transmission is to send a message to someone. In the current version, APRSISCE/32 transmits outgoing messages (and acks to incoming messages) via all available means. This means it goes out APRS-IS, KISS, and AGW if they're all enabled. If you send a message, you can expect to see PTT from your TNC.

My thanks goes out to N0ODV for his willingness and donation of time to help me diagnose the NMEA GPS support issue.

Then, later this evening, I got a note from ZL3REW-8 that he wasn't seeing any beacons on APRS-IS. A quick question confirmed that he was also seeing satellites, but no times. I e-mailed him (her? Robin?) a quick copy of the updated .EXE and the position packets were flying. Another happy user.

Then I noticed some strange diagnostics in N0ODV's debug log file so I got to looking around at the map painting code when coordinates were changing or the map was dragged a small distance. I found that the client was throwing away perfectly good map tiles (not really, just swapping some pointers around) when it didn't need to. I implemented better change detection in the loaded map tiles which results in smoother map dragging and lower overhead / faster screen painting for small map movements. This is especially visible if you maximize the window, wait for it to catch up, and then restore it back to something smaller. Dragging the map around in that window is MUCH smoother than it was before.

Anyway, even N0ODV and ZL3REW should consider downloading this latest copy. It's better than the one they got from me last night!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: Msg window suggestion

Phillip <zl2tze@...>
 

Hi Lynn,
                  Ok great news ..
 
Now that I have Robin ZL3REW playing we will be able to do things between ourselves.
 
Did you manage to contact John re BPQ32
 
73 Phil 
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 11/02/2010 3:22:20 p.m.
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Msg window suggestion
 
One of the big topics on my ToDo list is a complete renovation of the
messaging support.  That's one of the sections I use almost daily, so
I'm incubating some ideas of how to handle it.  A split MSG window works
on Win32, but I'm still striving to keep both the Win32 and Windows
Mobile versions code-level compatible.
 
Watch for some upcoming release, there'll be good stuff for messaging
coming sometime!
 
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
 
Phillip wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Lynn,
>                Is it possible to have a spilt MSG window that once
> opened it stays open until closed at some stage.
>
> Its a bit of a pain opening it to answer a keyboard chat
>
> Have stirred some interest here in ZL and another has APRSISCE on test ..
>
> 73 Phillip
>
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Beacon

Robin Williams <phonetech@...>
 

Hi Lynn,
just getting my head around this.
I don't seem to be able to send a beacon out.
I'm only connected to the IS and have a verified connection.
GPS is connected and working.
I can send and receive messages ok.
I must be missing something simple.
call is ZL3REW-8.
Cheers,
Robin. ZL3REW
BTW....Looks very good so far. Keep up the good work.


Re: Msg window suggestion

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

One of the big topics on my ToDo list is a complete renovation of the messaging support. That's one of the sections I use almost daily, so I'm incubating some ideas of how to handle it. A split MSG window works on Win32, but I'm still striving to keep both the Win32 and Windows Mobile versions code-level compatible.

Watch for some upcoming release, there'll be good stuff for messaging coming sometime!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Phillip wrote:



Hi Lynn,
Is it possible to have a spilt MSG window that once opened it stays open until closed at some stage.
Its a bit of a pain opening it to answer a keyboard chat
Have stirred some interest here in ZL and another has APRSISCE on test ..
73 Phillip



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Msg window suggestion

Phillip <zl2tze@...>
 

 
Hi Lynn,
               Is it possible to have a spilt MSG window that once opened it stays open until closed at some stage.
 
Its a bit of a pain opening it to answer a keyboard chat
 
Have stirred some interest here in ZL and another has APRSISCE on test ..
 
73 Phillip
 
 
 


Re: New version

Phillip <zl2tze@...>
 

Hi Lynn,
                Ok TCP blank..
 
one other thing if you look at my -15  on aprs.if you will see a posit for 02/02/2010
 
Again I don't know how that happened
 
Is there away of TXing without any TNC just via the aprsis
 
Phillip
ZL2TZE  
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 11/02/2010 11:24:39 a.m.
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] New version
 
Phillip wrote:
>
>              Yes I goofed on the address  to the group..
>
 
Not a problem, maybe someone there will be curious enough about
APRSISCE/32 to track it down and give it a try!
 
>
>             Callsign for aprsisce is zl2tze-15
>              Ui-View is -1
>
>
> Config / KISS is where I put the IP address
>
 
Do you actually have a KISS TNC that is IP addressible?  If not, you can
leave all of that configuration blank.  Having it populated won't hurt
anything as long as you don't enable KISS.  Otherwise, it will try to
connect to that address and port hoping to find an IP-addressible KISS TNC!
 
>
> How often does it do  telemetry  broadcast
>
 
Telemetry is sent (if enabled) every 15 minutes can can be changed in
the XML file under TelementryInterval.  If you change TelemetryDefined
to a different value (or delete the key), then the client will
re-transmit the definitions the next time it sends a telemetry packet.
 
UI-View shows ALL messages directed to your callsign regardless of -SSID
(per spec, believe it or not) which is why you saw them there.  I'll be
doing something similar when the "enhance messaging" task gets to the
top of my ToDo list.
 
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
 
 
 
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Re: New version

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Phillip wrote:
Yes I goofed on the address to the group..
Not a problem, maybe someone there will be curious enough about APRSISCE/32 to track it down and give it a try!

Callsign for aprsisce is zl2tze-15
Ui-View is -1
http://aprsnz.aprs2.net:14501/
Config / KISS is where I put the IP address
Do you actually have a KISS TNC that is IP addressible? If not, you can leave all of that configuration blank. Having it populated won't hurt anything as long as you don't enable KISS. Otherwise, it will try to connect to that address and port hoping to find an IP-addressible KISS TNC!

How often does it do telemetry broadcast
Telemetry is sent (if enabled) every 15 minutes can can be changed in the XML file under TelementryInterval. If you change TelemetryDefined to a different value (or delete the key), then the client will re-transmit the definitions the next time it sends a telemetry packet.

UI-View shows ALL messages directed to your callsign regardless of -SSID (per spec, believe it or not) which is why you saw them there. I'll be doing something similar when the "enhance messaging" task gets to the top of my ToDo list.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: New version

Phillip <zl2tze@...>
 

Hi Lynn
              Yes I goofed on the address  to the group..
 
            Callsign for aprsisce is zl2tze-15
             Ui-View is -1
 
 
Config / KISS is where I put the IP address 
 
How often does it do  telemetry  broadcast
 
73 Phillip
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 11/02/2010 10:59:34 a.m.
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: [APRS] New version
 
(Pardon the intrusion into the wrong group, but I might as well answer
it here and where it should have been)
 
Phillip wrote:
> I entered a TCP port
>
 
You entered a TCP Port where?  NMEA GPS?
 
> The following result was I have no idea where this cam from
> But  on my Ui-View PC the  following appeared
>
> >From                         To
> Received
>
> ZL2TZE-15           ZL2TZE-15                    PARM.Battery,Charging/AC
> GPS+Sat,A4,A5,A/C,Charging,GPS,B4,B5,B6,B7,B8
> ZL2TZE-15           ZL2TZE-15                    UNIT.Percentage
> Charge/On/Off,Sat/On/Off,N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A
> ZL2TZE-15           ZL2TZE-15                    EQNS,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1
> 0
> ZL2TZE-15           ZL2TZE-15                    BITS,111111111,Battery
> State Tracking
>
 
Those messages are automatically generated by APRSISCE/32 to define the
labels, units, and conversions for the APRS telemetry data generated by
the client.  They will only be generated once per telemetry version that
the client does.  These messages used to be generated by APRSISCE on
Windows Mobile every time the client started but are new to APRSIS32 on
Win32.
 
I hope your UI-View is running an -SSID different than the -15 that
you've got APRSIS32 configured for?  Otherwise strange things can happen.
 
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
 
 
 
 


Re: [APRS] New version

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

(Pardon the intrusion into the wrong group, but I might as well answer
it here and where it should have been)

Phillip wrote:
I entered a TCP port
You entered a TCP Port where? NMEA GPS?

The following result was I have no idea where this cam from But on my Ui-View PC the following appeared

From To
Received

ZL2TZE-15 ZL2TZE-15 PARM.Battery,Charging/AC
GPS+Sat,A4,A5,A/C,Charging,GPS,B4,B5,B6,B7,B8
ZL2TZE-15 ZL2TZE-15 UNIT.Percentage
Charge/On/Off,Sat/On/Off,N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A
ZL2TZE-15 ZL2TZE-15 EQNS,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1
0
ZL2TZE-15 ZL2TZE-15 BITS,111111111,Battery
State Tracking
Those messages are automatically generated by APRSISCE/32 to define the
labels, units, and conversions for the APRS telemetry data generated by
the client. They will only be generated once per telemetry version that
the client does. These messages used to be generated by APRSISCE on
Windows Mobile every time the client started but are new to APRSIS32 on
Win32.

I hope your UI-View is running an -SSID different than the -15 that
you've got APRSIS32 configured for? Otherwise strange things can happen.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Re: New APRSISCE/32 Release Notes! - Installation

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Jerome Lofton wrote:

Should the existing original version of APRSIS/32 be completely un-installed first before installing the new windows version ?
Nope, just copy the new .EXE overwriting the old one, double-click (or
however you normally start it) and you're in business.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ