Thanks! That clears up some more "loose ends." Given your comment in the first paragraph, what would be the utility of checking the GPS/NMEA box in paragraph 3?

This is a great piece of software. Thank you for making it available to the ham community!

On Monday, September 19, 2016, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 

If I recall correctly, the D72 does not have the ability to send the GPS data out the USB port to the PC.  The D710 does have this ability.  You can check the D72 Yahoo group for details on this point.  The upcoming D74 definitely has the ability to forward GPS data to the PC via either USB or Bluetooth.

The D710 port types should function fine when connecting to a D72, however.  Outside the GPS/NMEA issue.

Finally, if you're expecting to receive NMEA data from a connected radio port you should NOT separately configure the NMEA port but simply check the GPS/NMEA box in the radio port configuration.  Windows does not support sharing COMM ports which is why either your radio or NMEA port will be stuck in an OPEN state and never transition to OK.

To deconfigure an NMEA port, go into the Configure / Ports / NMEA and blank out the connection details.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 9/19/2016 9:13 AM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce] wrote:

There really are no "Scripts" per radio, just "specific PORT TYPES" with specific commands ( and ) placed in the configuration file (XML) to tell APRSISce/32 what to send to ensure the TNC is in the proper mode.  If there is a "Port TYPE" of TH72, you should use it.

If I remember correctly, you have "APRS data" coming from the radio properly, just the GPS data is lacking - correct?

The TH72 manual specifically says:

" Even if you select 'TH-D7' or 'TM-D700' for TNC type in the Comms Setup window of UI-View, you cannot expect proper 
   operation due to incompatibility of PC commands.  Ensure that the transceiver is placed in KISS mode as described above."

This tells me the D710 settings may not be the same as the TH72.

Looking at the APRSISe/32 WIKI and comparing the  and settings for the 2 radios, I see one setting that could cause problems:

8th command

   The D710 commands include GB 4800

   The D72 does not

Other differences include:

4th command

   D710 file: TN 1,0!TN 1,0

   TH72 file: TN 1,1!TN 1,1

27th command

   D710 file: BEACON EVERY 0!cmd:!1.0

   TH72 file: BEACON EVERY 60!cmd:!1.0

28 & 29th command

   D710 file: ECHO OFF!cmd:!1.00
              BEACON EVERY 0!cmd:!1.00

   TH72 file: not used?

Not in the "" but important:

   D710 file: 1

   TH72 file: not in WIKI settings

The missing in the TH72 setup is curious.  

You could edit the XML and alter the above lines to see if these settings are the cause.

Robert Giuliano

KB8RCO

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From: "Scott Johnson sdjcon@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] NEMA Does Not Open

 

Rob/KB8RCO,

Thanks for your response. I appreciate your time. I am using your Method 2. I checked and GPS/NMEA was not checked;-(( I made the change and still "no luck.")  I found that some how the PC out was off. I know I had turned it on, so I fixed that and it "helped." NMEA is still showing "Open" instead of "OK."

I am clearly missing something. reset both the radio and NMEA to 4800 on the off chance the default setting for the radio might work better. APRS-IS is "dinging" me, so something is still off. I have a date/time and a Fix=3D. My fix is dropping in and out. I am located next to a window, so . . .

Now the program is acting "buggy." Too many settings in too many places; who knows what I have created?

As I mentioned in my earlier note, the profile/script for the 710 seemed to work with the HT, but . . .

I know there is a script specifically for the TH72. Perhaps installing that and creating a new RF port using that script would help.

I know where to find the script I just don't know where, or exactly how, to install it in the APRS-IS file structure. Since it is not an executable I assume I can just "Copy ALL" and paste it. I have not found any specific notes on on the web re how to handle. I am assuming that once pasted (?) in the right location it would then appear in the dropdown box when setting up a new port. Can you shed any light on whether I am on target?

Thanks again,

73, Scott/AE7RO

 

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 

There are 2 ways to receive NMEA data:

1. On a dedicated COM port of the computer

2. Mixed in with the APRS data on the RF port.

Which to use:

1. Use if you directly connect a GPS to the computer

   Use if the device TNC or Radio) provides a separate GPS port with ONLY NMEA data coming through

2. Use when you device only provides 1 common COM port and sends GPS and APRS together

How to connect:

1. Configure Ports NMEA -> settings accordingly

   NOTE: port speed and other factors need to match the GPS

2. After setting up the RF port in Configure Ports "New port"

   There is a checkbox above "Device" for "GPS/NMEA" make sure it is checked

   NOTE: port speed and other factors are already set as you can't do 2 speeds on 1 port

How to enable:

  from the Menu >Enables >GPS Enabled

You should see a screen change to include GPS information.

Robert Giuliano

KB8RCO

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From: "sdjcon@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:02 AM
Subject: [aprsisce] NEMA Does Not Open

 

Recently in stalled package using the Kenwood 710 APRS profile on a TH-D72A. Initially all was working well. With the HT on the software turned on the TNC as advertised. APRSIS and the radio ports come up. I have configured and accepted the NEMA port and shows in the Config Port dropdown. No change wa made to the radio setup. What is th ecorrect speed for the NEMA port. On my setup the radio is on COM 3. I am receiving local RF APRS data. Any thoughts re troubleshooting would be appreciated.

Scott/AE7RO

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73, Scott/AE7RO

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73, Scott/AE7RO

If you mean you want to log the GPS output data via the USB serial output, turn on "PC Output" (menu 202). You should see the GPS data at all times regardless of TNC use. Don't forget to match the baud rate (menu 330).

If you mean the internal GPS logging (menu 220/230) I have never used that so please disregard this message, and pardon the interruption.

Danny

K2DMS

If I recall correctly, the D72 does not have the ability to send the GPS data out the USB port to the PC.  The D710 does have this ability.  You can check the D72 Yahoo group for details on this point.  The upcoming D74 definitely has the ability to forward GPS data to the PC via either USB or Bluetooth.

The D710 port types should function fine when connecting to a D72, however.  Outside the GPS/NMEA issue.

Finally, if you're expecting to receive NMEA data from a connected radio port you should NOT separately configure the NMEA port but simply check the GPS/NMEA box in the radio port configuration.  Windows does not support sharing COMM ports which is why either your radio or NMEA port will be stuck in an OPEN state and never transition to OK.

To deconfigure an NMEA port, go into the Configure / Ports / NMEA and blank out the connection details.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 9/19/2016 9:13 AM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce] wrote:

There really are no "Scripts" per radio, just "specific PORT TYPES" with specific commands ( and ) placed in the configuration file (XML) to tell APRSISce/32 what to send to ensure the TNC is in the proper mode.  If there is a "Port TYPE" of TH72, you should use it.

If I remember correctly, you have "APRS data" coming from the radio properly, just the GPS data is lacking - correct?

The TH72 manual specifically says:

" Even if you select 'TH-D7' or 'TM-D700' for TNC type in the Comms Setup window of UI-View, you cannot expect proper 
   operation due to incompatibility of PC commands.  Ensure that the transceiver is placed in KISS mode as described above."

This tells me the D710 settings may not be the same as the TH72.

Looking at the APRSISe/32 WIKI and comparing the  and settings for the 2 radios, I see one setting that could cause problems:

8th command

   The D710 commands include GB 4800

   The D72 does not

Other differences include:

4th command

   D710 file: TN 1,0!TN 1,0

   TH72 file: TN 1,1!TN 1,1

27th command

   D710 file: BEACON EVERY 0!cmd:!1.0

   TH72 file: BEACON EVERY 60!cmd:!1.0

28 & 29th command

   D710 file: ECHO OFF!cmd:!1.00
              BEACON EVERY 0!cmd:!1.00

   TH72 file: not used?

Not in the "" but important:

   D710 file: 1

   TH72 file: not in WIKI settings

The missing in the TH72 setup is curious.  

You could edit the XML and alter the above lines to see if these settings are the cause.

Robert Giuliano

KB8RCO

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From: "Scott Johnson sdjcon@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] NEMA Does Not Open

 

Rob/KB8RCO,

Thanks for your response. I appreciate your time. I am using your Method 2. I checked and GPS/NMEA was not checked;-(( I made the change and still "no luck.")  I found that some how the PC out was off. I know I had turned it on, so I fixed that and it "helped." NMEA is still showing "Open" instead of "OK."

I am clearly missing something. reset both the radio and NMEA to 4800 on the off chance the default setting for the radio might work better. APRS-IS is "dinging" me, so something is still off. I have a date/time and a Fix=3D. My fix is dropping in and out. I am located next to a window, so . . .

Now the program is acting "buggy." Too many settings in too many places; who knows what I have created?

As I mentioned in my earlier note, the profile/script for the 710 seemed to work with the HT, but . . .

I know there is a script specifically for the TH72. Perhaps installing that and creating a new RF port using that script would help.

I know where to find the script I just don't know where, or exactly how, to install it in the APRS-IS file structure. Since it is not an executable I assume I can just "Copy ALL" and paste it. I have not found any specific notes on on the web re how to handle. I am assuming that once pasted (?) in the right location it would then appear in the dropdown box when setting up a new port. Can you shed any light on whether I am on target?

Thanks again,

73, Scott/AE7RO

 

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:

 

There are 2 ways to receive NMEA data:

1. On a dedicated COM port of the computer

2. Mixed in with the APRS data on the RF port.

Which to use:

1. Use if you directly connect a GPS to the computer

   Use if the device TNC or Radio) provides a separate GPS port with ONLY NMEA data coming through

2. Use when you device only provides 1 common COM port and sends GPS and APRS together

How to connect:

1. Configure Ports NMEA -> settings accordingly

   NOTE: port speed and other factors need to match the GPS

2. After setting up the RF port in Configure Ports "New port"

   There is a checkbox above "Device" for "GPS/NMEA" make sure it is checked

   NOTE: port speed and other factors are already set as you can't do 2 speeds on 1 port

How to enable:

  from the Menu >Enables >GPS Enabled

You should see a screen change to include GPS information.

Robert Giuliano

KB8RCO

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From: "sdjcon@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:02 AM
Subject: [aprsisce] NEMA Does Not Open

 

Recently in stalled package using the Kenwood 710 APRS profile on a TH-D72A. Initially all was working well. With the HT on the software turned on the TNC as advertised. APRSIS and the radio ports come up. I have configured and accepted the NEMA port and shows in the Config Port dropdown. No change wa made to the radio setup. What is th ecorrect speed for the NEMA port. On my setup the radio is on COM 3. I am receiving local RF APRS data. Any thoughts re troubleshooting would be appreciated.

Scott/AE7RO

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73, Scott/AE7RO