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Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

David Tse
 

Lynn, I haven't had a chance to test it out yet on my e830 or my e805, but I'll do it once I get some time to. I think it is another user who was asking about CE platform.

I do not own any CE platform devices at the moment (well, there is one, but not being used: it is a Clarion AutoPC 310C, which is the AutoPC (now defunct) platform based on Windows CE 2.0, I used to use it in my old car, running Odyssey 2000 navigation package).

The reason I asked about e830 and e805 is that both units have a 4.0" large LCD, and they are not being used right now so it's a bit of a waste (too lazy to sell them). I might be selling my HTC Advantage x7501 so even though it'll work fine I might not be able to enjoy it. The MWg 503g's screen is a bit small so I might not be using it either.

I also acquired a MID lately: BenQ S6 running Win XP, and will test your win32 version soon (once I set up the unit w/ other things first).

Thanks!

73,
David

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Is this on the Toshiba e830 and e805 that you mentioned originally? Or
one of the other devices? If it's Pocket PC 2003, I might be able to
try building down to there, but I suspect that some of my features (like
the map display) won't be functional as that uses new features of the
Windows Mobile shell API.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Mustafa AYDIN wrote:


When I double click the exe file from file manager , nothing happens .
My device just continue working asif I didn't do anything.

Do you think I need to add some dll files to windows directory to get
the program work under winCE ?

*From:* Lynn W. Deffenbaugh <mailto:kj4erj@...>
*Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 7:33 PM
*To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: [aprsisce] Re: Hardware requirement for WM version



WinCE 6.0 or Windows Mobile 6.0? I require Windows Mobile, not WinCE.

What is the error message you are being presented with?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

ta2ey wrote:
Hi Lynn,

I just joined this group and tried APRSISCE program on my device
with WinCE 6.0 OS.

Unfortunately it didn't work under WinCE .
I managed to work APRS-CE without problem.

is there anything I can do to use this software under WinCE 6.0 ?

Mustafa

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>,
"Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@> wrote:

David,

My build environment says Windows Mobile 6.1, but I know it runs on
5.0. As far as 2003, I suspect it won't work because I'm not sure the
GPSapi goes back that far.

The best I can suggest is to put the .EXE on the device and see if it
runs. If it does, you're good. If it doesn't, let me know what it says
and maybe I can build a version that works around the issue.

I used to have an original Toshiba e755 before I left it in a loaner
car, the dealer recovered it, put it on a shelf, and it disappeared
before I got down to pick it up. They ended up reimbursing me for it
because they knew they had it and knew they lost it. That's what paid
for my AT&T Tilt because there were no other PDAs on the market by
that
time (well, there WERE PDAs available, but the Tilt with a 2 year plan
was cheaper and more functional).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

ve7mdt wrote:

I tried to look for the info but haven't been able to find it
(readme, release note etc).

Which Windows Mobile versions are supported? Are WM 2003 and 2003
SE supported, for example? Or only WM 5 or above?

The reason I asked is that I have an HTC Advantage x7501, a MWg
503g, both on WM 6.x right now, but I also have Toshiba e830 and e805
which are only WM 2003 SE, but I want to make good use of them as well.

Thanks and sorry if this info is easy to find, I just haven't been
able to and I tried the search as well.

73,
David
VE7MDT




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New Phone and Map Zooming Issues

radiofreq_prod <radiofreq@...>
 

Hi Lynn,

I have been running a Sprint Touch Pro which has the d-pad (circle multi-function button) like the AT&T Tilt. It functioned with up/down for zoom in/out and left/right for map transparency.

I have recently upgraded to the Sprint Touch Pro 2 which no longer has the d-pad. It only has a zoom in/out slider as seen at the very bottom of this photo: http://www.htc.com/us/content/images/phones/touch-pro2-sprint-Support-124.png

Is there any way to assign this 'zoom bar' (I guess you would call it) to be able to easily zoom the map in and out as opposed to having to open up the slider keyboard and use the arrows?

Thanks for any input you may have.

Other than that minor issue, APRSISCE is running like a champ on this phone. Even better yet, I don't seem to have the heat issue the Touch Pro/Tilt is so famous for. Plus it's a much bigger screen.

73, Jason, K2ENG (APRSISCE: K2ENG-12)


Re: Does aprsisce support Socks proxy?

ae5pl <pete@...>
 

While the Socks proxy is supposed to be invisible, if APRSISCE is using NetTCPBinding it doesn't support proxies. Here is a quote from a Microsoft thread:

"I have a program written with .Net 2.0 by me using normal tcp sockets and which I can tunnel through socks proxy, but after upgrading to .NET 3.5 (and still using sockets) my used tool can't grab the traffic. I'm using "proxifier" but there are many other capture tools, also some free."

Maybe this will help Lynn. Socks proxies were supposed to be invisible to applications but with the continual evolution of TCP stacks, APIs, etc., there may be issues with certain configurations.

73,

Pete AE5PL


Re: Does aprsisce support Socks proxy?

ae5pl <pete@...>
 

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, FUJIURA Toyonori <toyokun@...> wrote:

I didn't run both AGWTracker and APRSISCE same time.
So why APRSISCE doesn't connect to APRS server?
I can't answer that because see below...

When I set proxy server in connection setting,
is the socks handled by the socket API or the application like Pocket IE?
If Socket API, I think the APRSISCE should run.
If the application, I think the application support is needed.
It is the socket API. The design of the Socks Proxy is to go between the TCP stack and the application and be invisible to the application. I don't know why AGWTracker connects and APRSISCE doesn't. I recommend looking closely at your server and port definitions in AGWTracker and APRSISCE and make sure they are exactly the same.

73,

Pete AE5PL


Re: Does aprsisce support Socks proxy?

FUJIURA Toyonori <toyokun@...>
 

Dear Pete,

I didn't run both AGWTracker and APRSISCE same time.
So why APRSISCE doesn't connect to APRS server?

When I set proxy server in connection setting,
is the socks handled by the socket API or the application like Pocket IE?
If Socket API, I think the APRSISCE should run.
If the application, I think the application support is needed.

Thanks.

2010/1/31 ae5pl <pete@ae5pl.net>:
--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, FUJIURA Toyonori <toyokun@...> wrote:

Thanks reply and I understood, but it is very inconvenience.
Because not only putty but also AGWTracker support it.
Please add it in your plan..

My phone prover is EMOBILE.
http://www.gsmworld.com/Roaming/Gsminfo/net_jpem.shtml
And MMS connection requres the following settings.
wm.internal.emnet.ne.jp / 8080 (HTTP proxy) 1080 (Socks proxy)
Fujiura,

APRSISCE does not need to do anything to support the Socks proxy.  It is "transparent" to the application.  In other words, you don't do anything in putty or AGWTracker to accomodate the Socks proxy.  It is up to you to ensure that the Socks proxy properly intercepts the port you are connecting to in APRS-IS as a telnet type port.

The Socks proxy is very old technology put in place to help restrict normal non-HTTP TCP traffic.  It affects all non-HTTP applications on a device and must be configured to allow individual port connections.  My guess is that your cell phone provider uses it to restrict type of access to streaming sites and "banned" sites.  It should not interfere with APRSISCE if AGWTrackerPocket works as they both use the same TCP socket API.

73,

Pete AE5PL



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Re: Does aprsisce support Socks proxy?

ae5pl <pete@...>
 

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, FUJIURA Toyonori <toyokun@...> wrote:

Thanks reply and I understood, but it is very inconvenience.
Because not only putty but also AGWTracker support it.
Please add it in your plan..

My phone prover is EMOBILE.
http://www.gsmworld.com/Roaming/Gsminfo/net_jpem.shtml
And MMS connection requres the following settings.
wm.internal.emnet.ne.jp / 8080 (HTTP proxy) 1080 (Socks proxy)
Fujiura,

APRSISCE does not need to do anything to support the Socks proxy. It is "transparent" to the application. In other words, you don't do anything in putty or AGWTracker to accomodate the Socks proxy. It is up to you to ensure that the Socks proxy properly intercepts the port you are connecting to in APRS-IS as a telnet type port.

The Socks proxy is very old technology put in place to help restrict normal non-HTTP TCP traffic. It affects all non-HTTP applications on a device and must be configured to allow individual port connections. My guess is that your cell phone provider uses it to restrict type of access to streaming sites and "banned" sites. It should not interfere with APRSISCE if AGWTrackerPocket works as they both use the same TCP socket API.

73,

Pete AE5PL


Re: Does aprsisce support Socks proxy?

FUJIURA Toyonori <toyokun@...>
 

Dear Lynn.

Thanks reply and I understood, but it is very inconvenience.
Because not only putty but also AGWTracker support it.
Please add it in your plan..

My phone prover is EMOBILE.
http://www.gsmworld.com/Roaming/Gsminfo/net_jpem.shtml
And MMS connection requres the following settings.
wm.internal.emnet.ne.jp / 8080 (HTTP proxy) 1080 (Socks proxy)

Thank you.

2010/1/31 Lynn W. Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@arrl.net>:
Sorry, but APRSISCE (and all of APRS-IS, in point of fact) requires a
direct socket connection.  It is not a web connection.

And no, I do not currently support a Socks proxy and don't really have
any plans to.  If there's enough demand, maybe, but you are the first
person to ask in the 1+years of having the client in the field.

May I ask who your phone provider is?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

jg2rzf wrote:
Hi,

Is this software support Socks proxy?

My mobile phone provider support two Internet connection.
One is directly connected to the Internet but it doesn't support MMS,
and another is connected to Internet through Web proxy/Socks server but it supports MMS.

I try to use the second connection, but this software cannot connect APRS server. The first connection, it works.

Hopefully, I want to use this on the first connection.
Thanks.



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Re: Does aprsisce support Socks proxy?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Sorry, but APRSISCE (and all of APRS-IS, in point of fact) requires a
direct socket connection. It is not a web connection.

And no, I do not currently support a Socks proxy and don't really have
any plans to. If there's enough demand, maybe, but you are the first
person to ask in the 1+years of having the client in the field.

May I ask who your phone provider is?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

jg2rzf wrote:

Hi,
Is this software support Socks proxy?

My mobile phone provider support two Internet connection.
One is directly connected to the Internet but it doesn't support MMS,
and another is connected to Internet through Web proxy/Socks server but it supports MMS.

I try to use the second connection, but this software cannot connect APRS server. The first connection, it works.

Hopefully, I want to use this on the first connection.
Thanks.


Does aprsisce support Socks proxy?

jg2rzf <toyokun@...>
 

Hi,

Is this software support Socks proxy?

My mobile phone provider support two Internet connection.
One is directly connected to the Internet but it doesn't support MMS,
and another is connected to Internet through Web proxy/Socks server but it supports MMS.

I try to use the second connection, but this software cannot connect APRS server. The first connection, it works.

Hopefully, I want to use this on the first connection.
Thanks.


Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

Mustafa AYDIN <ta2ey.mustafa@...>
 

There isn't any brand on it. it could be Standard Windows CE SDK . There is a note like "Windows Embedded CE v6.0 (Build 0 on Apr 17 2009) " on desktop background picture
 
I have ROM image files here http://rapidshare.com/files/296548204/YF82A_4.8_WINCE_6.0_ROM.rar . it might help you identify exactly.
 
Mustafa - TA2EY
 
 

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

 

One thing Windows Mobile developers learn is there is no such thing as
"standard" Windows. APRS/CE and APRSISCE are two completely different
programs by different developers. APRSISCE is built in the Windows
Mobile 6 Professional SDK environment targeting the ARMV4I processor.
Windows CE has no guarantee of what sections of Windows API is available
or not. It is left up to the whim of the platform builder.

Is there a brand on the device or is a standard Windows CE SDK
development environment available for it? If so, that will tell me what
I need to conditionalize out of my program to make it work there.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Mustafa AYDIN wrote:
>
>
> My device is 5" navigation device with WinCE 6.0 OS , 600 Mhz
> ARM1136JF-S Processor , 128 MB Ram . Windows desktop and internet
> explorer works properly.
> I managed to work many of pocket PC softwares on this device.
> After successfully used APRS/CE ,I thought APRSISCE would work on this
> device as well.
> Mustafa - TA2EY
>
> *From:* Lynn W. Deffenbaugh kj4erj@arrl.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 8:59 PM
> *To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [aprsisce] Re: Hardware requirement for WM version
>
> Is this on the Toshiba e830 and e805 that you mentioned originally? Or
> one of the other devices? If it's Pocket PC 2003, I might be able to
> try building down to there, but I suspect that some of my features (like
> the map display) won't be functional as that uses new features of the
> Windows Mobile shell API.
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
>
> Mustafa AYDIN wrote:
> >
> >
> > When I double click the exe file from file manager , nothing happens .
> > My device just continue working asif I didn't do anything.
> >
> > Do you think I need to add some dll files to windows directory to get
> > the program work under winCE ?
> >
> > *From:* Lynn W. Deffenbaugh kj4erj@arrl.net
> 40arrl.net>>
> > *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 7:33 PM
> > *To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>
> aprsisce@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>>
> > *Subject:* Re: [aprsisce] Re: Hardware requirement for WM version
> >
> >
> >
> > WinCE 6.0 or Windows Mobile 6.0? I require Windows Mobile, not WinCE.
> >
> > What is the error message you are being presented with?
> >
> > Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
> >
> > ta2ey wrote:
> > > Hi Lynn,
> > >
> > > I just joined this group and tried APRSISCE program on my device
> > with WinCE 6.0 OS.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately it didn't work under WinCE .
> > > I managed to work APRS-CE without problem.
> > >
> > > is there anything I can do to use this software under WinCE 6.0 ?
> > >
> > > Mustafa
> > >
> > > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
> 40yahoogroups.com> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" wrote:
> > >
> > >> David,
> > >>
> > >> My build environment says Windows Mobile 6.1, but I know it runs on
> > >> 5.0. As far as 2003, I suspect it won't work because I'm not sure the
> > >> GPSapi goes back that far.
> > >>
> > >> The best I can suggest is to put the .EXE on the device and see if it
> > >> runs. If it does, you're good. If it doesn't, let me know what it
> says
> > >> and maybe I can build a version that works around the issue.
> > >>
> > >> I used to have an original Toshiba e755 before I left it in a loaner
> > >> car, the dealer recovered it, put it on a shelf, and it disappeared
> > >> before I got down to pick it up. They ended up reimbursing me for it
> > >> because they knew they had it and knew they lost it. That's what paid
> > >> for my AT&T Tilt because there were no other PDAs on the market by
> > that
> > >> time (well, there WERE PDAs available, but the Tilt with a 2 year
> plan
> > >> was cheaper and more functional).
> > >>
> > >> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
> > >>
> > >> ve7mdt wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I tried to look for the info but haven't been able to find it
> > (readme, release note etc).
> > >>>
> > >>> Which Windows Mobile versions are supported? Are WM 2003 and 2003
> > SE supported, for example? Or only WM 5 or above?
> > >>>
> > >>> The reason I asked is that I have an HTC Advantage x7501, a MWg
> > 503g, both on WM 6.x right now, but I also have Toshiba e830 and e805
> > which are only WM 2003 SE, but I want to make good use of them as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks and sorry if this info is easy to find, I just haven't been
> > able to and I tried the search as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> 73,
> > >>> David
> > >>> VE7MDT
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

One thing Windows Mobile developers learn is there is no such thing as "standard" Windows. APRS/CE and APRSISCE are two completely different programs by different developers. APRSISCE is built in the Windows Mobile 6 Professional SDK environment targeting the ARMV4I processor. Windows CE has no guarantee of what sections of Windows API is available or not. It is left up to the whim of the platform builder.

Is there a brand on the device or is a standard Windows CE SDK development environment available for it? If so, that will tell me what I need to conditionalize out of my program to make it work there.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Mustafa AYDIN wrote:



My device is 5" navigation device with WinCE 6.0 OS , 600 Mhz ARM1136JF-S Processor , 128 MB Ram . Windows desktop and internet explorer works properly.
I managed to work many of pocket PC softwares on this device.
After successfully used APRS/CE ,I thought APRSISCE would work on this device as well.
Mustafa - TA2EY

*From:* Lynn W. Deffenbaugh <mailto:kj4erj@arrl.net>
*Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 8:59 PM
*To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: [aprsisce] Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

Is this on the Toshiba e830 and e805 that you mentioned originally? Or
one of the other devices? If it's Pocket PC 2003, I might be able to
try building down to there, but I suspect that some of my features (like
the map display) won't be functional as that uses new features of the
Windows Mobile shell API.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Mustafa AYDIN wrote:


When I double click the exe file from file manager , nothing happens .
My device just continue working asif I didn't do anything.

Do you think I need to add some dll files to windows directory to get
the program work under winCE ?

*From:* Lynn W. Deffenbaugh <mailto:kj4erj@arrl.net
<mailto:kj4erj%40arrl.net>>
*Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 7:33 PM
*To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [aprsisce] Re: Hardware requirement for WM version



WinCE 6.0 or Windows Mobile 6.0? I require Windows Mobile, not WinCE.

What is the error message you are being presented with?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

ta2ey wrote:
Hi Lynn,

I just joined this group and tried APRSISCE program on my device
with WinCE 6.0 OS.

Unfortunately it didn't work under WinCE .
I managed to work APRS-CE without problem.

is there anything I can do to use this software under WinCE 6.0 ?

Mustafa

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>,
"Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

David,

My build environment says Windows Mobile 6.1, but I know it runs on
5.0. As far as 2003, I suspect it won't work because I'm not sure the
GPSapi goes back that far.

The best I can suggest is to put the .EXE on the device and see if it
runs. If it does, you're good. If it doesn't, let me know what it
says
and maybe I can build a version that works around the issue.

I used to have an original Toshiba e755 before I left it in a loaner
car, the dealer recovered it, put it on a shelf, and it disappeared
before I got down to pick it up. They ended up reimbursing me for it
because they knew they had it and knew they lost it. That's what paid
for my AT&T Tilt because there were no other PDAs on the market by
that
time (well, there WERE PDAs available, but the Tilt with a 2 year
plan
was cheaper and more functional).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

ve7mdt wrote:

I tried to look for the info but haven't been able to find it
(readme, release note etc).

Which Windows Mobile versions are supported? Are WM 2003 and 2003
SE supported, for example? Or only WM 5 or above?

The reason I asked is that I have an HTC Advantage x7501, a MWg
503g, both on WM 6.x right now, but I also have Toshiba e830 and e805
which are only WM 2003 SE, but I want to make good use of them as well.

Thanks and sorry if this info is easy to find, I just haven't been
able to and I tried the search as well.

73,
David
VE7MDT




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Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

Mustafa AYDIN <ta2ey.mustafa@...>
 

My device is 5" navigation device with WinCE 6.0 OS , 600 Mhz ARM1136JF-S Processor , 128 MB Ram . Windows desktop and internet explorer works properly.
 
I managed to work many of pocket PC softwares on this device.
After successfully used APRS/CE ,I thought APRSISCE would work on this device as well.
 
Mustafa - TA2EY

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

 

Is this on the Toshiba e830 and e805 that you mentioned originally? Or
one of the other devices? If it's Pocket PC 2003, I might be able to
try building down to there, but I suspect that some of my features (like
the map display) won't be functional as that uses new features of the
Windows Mobile shell API.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Mustafa AYDIN wrote:
>
>
> When I double click the exe file from file manager , nothing happens .
> My device just continue working asif I didn't do anything.
>
> Do you think I need to add some dll files to windows directory to get
> the program work under winCE ?
>
> *From:* Lynn W. Deffenbaugh kj4erj@arrl.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 7:33 PM
> *To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [aprsisce] Re: Hardware requirement for WM version
>
>
>
> WinCE 6.0 or Windows Mobile 6.0? I require Windows Mobile, not WinCE.
>
> What is the error message you are being presented with?
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
>
> ta2ey wrote:
> > Hi Lynn,
> >
> > I just joined this group and tried APRSISCE program on my device
> with WinCE 6.0 OS.
> >
> > Unfortunately it didn't work under WinCE .
> > I managed to work APRS-CE without problem.
> >
> > is there anything I can do to use this software under WinCE 6.0 ?
> >
> > Mustafa
> >
> > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" wrote:
> >
> >> David,
> >>
> >> My build environment says Windows Mobile 6.1, but I know it runs on
> >> 5.0. As far as 2003, I suspect it won't work because I'm not sure the
> >> GPSapi goes back that far.
> >>
> >> The best I can suggest is to put the .EXE on the device and see if it
> >> runs. If it does, you're good. If it doesn't, let me know what it says
> >> and maybe I can build a version that works around the issue.
> >>
> >> I used to have an original Toshiba e755 before I left it in a loaner
> >> car, the dealer recovered it, put it on a shelf, and it disappeared
> >> before I got down to pick it up. They ended up reimbursing me for it
> >> because they knew they had it and knew they lost it. That's what paid
> >> for my AT&T Tilt because there were no other PDAs on the market by
> that
> >> time (well, there WERE PDAs available, but the Tilt with a 2 year plan
> >> was cheaper and more functional).
> >>
> >> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
> >>
> >> ve7mdt wrote:
> >>
> >>> I tried to look for the info but haven't been able to find it
> (readme, release note etc).
> >>>
> >>> Which Windows Mobile versions are supported? Are WM 2003 and 2003
> SE supported, for example? Or only WM 5 or above?
> >>>
> >>> The reason I asked is that I have an HTC Advantage x7501, a MWg
> 503g, both on WM 6.x right now, but I also have Toshiba e830 and e805
> which are only WM 2003 SE, but I want to make good use of them as well.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks and sorry if this info is easy to find, I just haven't been
> able to and I tried the search as well.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> David
> >>> VE7MDT
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Is this on the Toshiba e830 and e805 that you mentioned originally? Or
one of the other devices? If it's Pocket PC 2003, I might be able to
try building down to there, but I suspect that some of my features (like
the map display) won't be functional as that uses new features of the
Windows Mobile shell API.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Mustafa AYDIN wrote:



When I double click the exe file from file manager , nothing happens . My device just continue working asif I didn't do anything.
Do you think I need to add some dll files to windows directory to get the program work under winCE ?

*From:* Lynn W. Deffenbaugh <mailto:kj4erj@arrl.net>
*Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 7:33 PM
*To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: [aprsisce] Re: Hardware requirement for WM version


WinCE 6.0 or Windows Mobile 6.0? I require Windows Mobile, not WinCE.

What is the error message you are being presented with?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

ta2ey wrote:
Hi Lynn,

I just joined this group and tried APRSISCE program on my device
with WinCE 6.0 OS.

Unfortunately it didn't work under WinCE .
I managed to work APRS-CE without problem.

is there anything I can do to use this software under WinCE 6.0 ?

Mustafa

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>,
"Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

David,

My build environment says Windows Mobile 6.1, but I know it runs on
5.0. As far as 2003, I suspect it won't work because I'm not sure the
GPSapi goes back that far.

The best I can suggest is to put the .EXE on the device and see if it
runs. If it does, you're good. If it doesn't, let me know what it says
and maybe I can build a version that works around the issue.

I used to have an original Toshiba e755 before I left it in a loaner
car, the dealer recovered it, put it on a shelf, and it disappeared
before I got down to pick it up. They ended up reimbursing me for it
because they knew they had it and knew they lost it. That's what paid
for my AT&T Tilt because there were no other PDAs on the market by
that
time (well, there WERE PDAs available, but the Tilt with a 2 year plan
was cheaper and more functional).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

ve7mdt wrote:

I tried to look for the info but haven't been able to find it
(readme, release note etc).

Which Windows Mobile versions are supported? Are WM 2003 and 2003
SE supported, for example? Or only WM 5 or above?

The reason I asked is that I have an HTC Advantage x7501, a MWg
503g, both on WM 6.x right now, but I also have Toshiba e830 and e805 which are only WM 2003 SE, but I want to make good use of them as well.

Thanks and sorry if this info is easy to find, I just haven't been
able to and I tried the search as well.

73,
David
VE7MDT




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Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

Mustafa AYDIN <ta2ey.mustafa@...>
 

When I double click the exe file from file manager , nothing happens . My device just continue working asif I didn't do anything.
 
Do you think I need to add some dll files to windows directory to get the program work under winCE ?

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

 

WinCE 6.0 or Windows Mobile 6.0? I require Windows Mobile, not WinCE.

What is the error message you are being presented with?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

ta2ey wrote:
> Hi Lynn,
>
> I just joined this group and tried APRSISCE program on my device with WinCE 6.0 OS.
>
> Unfortunately it didn't work under WinCE .
> I managed to work APRS-CE without problem.
>
> is there anything I can do to use this software under WinCE 6.0 ?
>
> Mustafa
>
> --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> My build environment says Windows Mobile 6.1, but I know it runs on
>> 5.0. As far as 2003, I suspect it won't work because I'm not sure the
>> GPSapi goes back that far.
>>
>> The best I can suggest is to put the .EXE on the device and see if it
>> runs. If it does, you're good. If it doesn't, let me know what it says
>> and maybe I can build a version that works around the issue.
>>
>> I used to have an original Toshiba e755 before I left it in a loaner
>> car, the dealer recovered it, put it on a shelf, and it disappeared
>> before I got down to pick it up. They ended up reimbursing me for it
>> because they knew they had it and knew they lost it. That's what paid
>> for my AT&T Tilt because there were no other PDAs on the market by that
>> time (well, there WERE PDAs available, but the Tilt with a 2 year plan
>> was cheaper and more functional).
>>
>> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
>>
>> ve7mdt wrote:
>>
>>> I tried to look for the info but haven't been able to find it (readme, release note etc).
>>>
>>> Which Windows Mobile versions are supported? Are WM 2003 and 2003 SE supported, for example? Or only WM 5 or above?
>>>
>>> The reason I asked is that I have an HTC Advantage x7501, a MWg 503g, both on WM 6.x right now, but I also have Toshiba e830 and e805 which are only WM 2003 SE, but I want to make good use of them as well.
>>>
>>> Thanks and sorry if this info is easy to find, I just haven't been able to and I tried the search as well.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> David
>>> VE7MDT
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
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Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

WinCE 6.0 or Windows Mobile 6.0? I require Windows Mobile, not WinCE.

What is the error message you are being presented with?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

ta2ey wrote:

Hi Lynn,

I just joined this group and tried APRSISCE program on my device with WinCE 6.0 OS.

Unfortunately it didn't work under WinCE . I managed to work APRS-CE without problem.

is there anything I can do to use this software under WinCE 6.0 ?

Mustafa

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

David,

My build environment says Windows Mobile 6.1, but I know it runs on 5.0. As far as 2003, I suspect it won't work because I'm not sure the GPSapi goes back that far.

The best I can suggest is to put the .EXE on the device and see if it runs. If it does, you're good. If it doesn't, let me know what it says and maybe I can build a version that works around the issue.

I used to have an original Toshiba e755 before I left it in a loaner car, the dealer recovered it, put it on a shelf, and it disappeared before I got down to pick it up. They ended up reimbursing me for it because they knew they had it and knew they lost it. That's what paid for my AT&T Tilt because there were no other PDAs on the market by that time (well, there WERE PDAs available, but the Tilt with a 2 year plan was cheaper and more functional).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

ve7mdt wrote:

I tried to look for the info but haven't been able to find it (readme, release note etc).

Which Windows Mobile versions are supported? Are WM 2003 and 2003 SE supported, for example? Or only WM 5 or above?

The reason I asked is that I have an HTC Advantage x7501, a MWg 503g, both on WM 6.x right now, but I also have Toshiba e830 and e805 which are only WM 2003 SE, but I want to make good use of them as well.

Thanks and sorry if this info is easy to find, I just haven't been able to and I tried the search as well.

73,
David
VE7MDT




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Re: Hardware requirement for WM version

ta2ey <ta2ey.mustafa@...>
 

Hi Lynn,

I just joined this group and tried APRSISCE program on my device with WinCE 6.0 OS.

Unfortunately it didn't work under WinCE .
I managed to work APRS-CE without problem.

is there anything I can do to use this software under WinCE 6.0 ?

Mustafa

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

David,

My build environment says Windows Mobile 6.1, but I know it runs on
5.0. As far as 2003, I suspect it won't work because I'm not sure the
GPSapi goes back that far.

The best I can suggest is to put the .EXE on the device and see if it
runs. If it does, you're good. If it doesn't, let me know what it says
and maybe I can build a version that works around the issue.

I used to have an original Toshiba e755 before I left it in a loaner
car, the dealer recovered it, put it on a shelf, and it disappeared
before I got down to pick it up. They ended up reimbursing me for it
because they knew they had it and knew they lost it. That's what paid
for my AT&T Tilt because there were no other PDAs on the market by that
time (well, there WERE PDAs available, but the Tilt with a 2 year plan
was cheaper and more functional).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

ve7mdt wrote:
I tried to look for the info but haven't been able to find it (readme, release note etc).

Which Windows Mobile versions are supported? Are WM 2003 and 2003 SE supported, for example? Or only WM 5 or above?

The reason I asked is that I have an HTC Advantage x7501, a MWg 503g, both on WM 6.x right now, but I also have Toshiba e830 and e805 which are only WM 2003 SE, but I want to make good use of them as well.

Thanks and sorry if this info is easy to find, I just haven't been able to and I tried the search as well.

73,
David
VE7MDT


Re: KISS TNC for APRS

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

m6xsd wrote:
Yep, point taken on 'Lost Fix' but I still think being able to select pre-programmed static points when 'en-route' would be good, I can think of quite a few situations where I would like to 'annouce'(for want of a better word) that I'm not exactly where my GPS thinks I am (or was).
See Bob's APRS 1.1 extension called "Destination Waypoints" described at:

http://wa8lmf.net/bruninga/APRS-docs/MOBILE.TXT

This is part of the APRS 1.1 Spec Addendum you can see at:

http://wa8lmf.net/bruninga/aprs/aprs11.html

I'm considering supporting the ability to beacon a "destination
waypoint" as well as interpret them and draw the lines that are
described. I don't know how many other APRS clients do this, but it's
part of the published spec, so I might as well support it! Who knows, I
might even make it part of the Poll's () "slow beacon" mode!

Oh, and another preview of things to come is that I'm designing a
"coordinate picker" dialog that will embed the OpenStreetMap with pan
and zoom to allow you to home in on and set a coordinate. It'll still
support a variety of manually-entered coordinates, but you'll be able to
see where you entered or enter what you see. - Thoughts?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: KISS TNC for APRS

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

g4ilo wrote:
Personally I think the last known position would be the best one to use when going into a building. Incidentally the last time this happened to me I forgot to turn the thing off when I went into a building and left my jacket and when I came back I had a hot phone with a depleted battery, so an auto-disable GPS if unable to get a fix after x min option might be a useful battery conservation tool.
That's maybe a reasonable suggestion. How long to make the delay before auto-disable is the hard part. I know with my AT&T Tilt the GPS will sometimes go out to la-la land for a few minutes when the visible satellite count drops to small numbers. I'll add this somewhere down on the ToDo list.

The ability to easily select a different icon would be a nice touch though I don't know if many would bother with it. I'm using the icon of a jogger because that seemed the most appropriate for a pedestrian mobile, but I also have it with me in the car and people may get the idea I'm a pretty fast runner. It would be nice to switch to an icon of a car without opening the config dialog and scrolling through that long list. There could do with being an icon of a guy in a chair with his feet up for when the thing is docked in its cradle on the desktop. :)
I've considered doing some sort of a named Profile set of settings that would include beaconing, Icon, status, and such. I don't know that I'll get as fancy as doing automatic profile switching ala the Tracker2 family, but at least having a Configure/Profile cascading menu selection might be nice. Hiking, Biking, Mobile, QTH/Stationary kind of settings where the user configures the names AND the parameters.

I'm not sure how successful my earlier suggestion of an economy mode that only gets a fix now and then would be, because as Lynn pointed out the GPS will struggle to get a fix if you are moving. I have been trying to remember to disable the GPS (or switch the phone off with the button on the top which keeps the APRS-IS connection going so you can still receive messages) but I have been switching it on and then setting off without waiting to get a fix and as a result I have travelled long distances before my next position was reported.
Yep, that's the GPS behavior. Those really quick fix times the manufacturers like to advertise are for fix acquisition without moving or at most walking. If you turn on the GPS, drop it on the dash, and dash on down the road, it'll be a while till it figures out where you really are. I've taken to backing out my driveway and turning the GPS on while I record my mileage (yes, most of what I drive, I get reimbursed for). But then, I live on a cul-de-sac, so I don't have to worry much about traffic while sitting in the middle of the street!

Economy mode still intrigues me because my GPS will pick up a fix pretty quick at walking speeds. It's trying to use economy mode while driving that would get rather iffy. Maybe an economy mode that disables itself if the prevailing speed is greater than some reasonable threshhold...

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - QTH at KJ4ERJ-2


Re: KISS TNC for APRS

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

g4ilo wrote:
--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
By "data source" I mean either a serial port (which may be a
paired BlueTooth serial port) or a TCP/IP address and port combination.
Does this mean it will work with the AGW Packet Engine on a PC? I don't know too much about this but it appears to run as a TCP/IP server listening on port 8000.
I have AGWPE support on my list, but that's not the IP/port that I mention above. There are Ethernet and WiFi serial port devices that offer a TCP/IP port to which you connect to access the serial data. I have also written similar shim programs that run on other machines and offer a TCP/IP connection to serial ports on those machines. The support I'm currently building expects the TCP data to appear just as if the serial device was locally connected. AGEPE adds a whole different protocol layer to the "TNC" communications.

AGW support will be there eventually, but not soonest.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Re: KISS TNC for APRS

g4ilo
 

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "m6xsd" <m6xsd@...> wrote:

Hi Lynn,

Your plans for COM port / NMEA implementation sound 'spot on', I can't wait to try it.
I normally run a Garmin eTrex Summit GPS hooked up to my HP iPaq HX2750 PDA (currently for moving map display), I just need to sort out a TNC to hook up to my radio & I should have an excellent mobile system.
Would it be possible to have the software revert to a 'static position' when GPS fix is lost(i.e when you enter a building). Ideally
the 'static position' would be easily selectable from pre-programmed points and have different icon (so it is obvious you are no longer mobile). This could also be useful when out climbing hills (SOTA & WOTA) because you could show you are at a summit (or other waypoint) without draining valuable GPS power (hopefully Julian will let us know if this is practical from the walkers point of view).
Personally I think the last known position would be the best one to use when going into a building. Incidentally the last time this happened to me I forgot to turn the thing off when I went into a building and left my jacket and when I came back I had a hot phone with a depleted battery, so an auto-disable GPS if unable to get a fix after x min option might be a useful battery conservation tool.

The ability to easily select a different icon would be a nice touch though I don't know if many would bother with it. I'm using the icon of a jogger because that seemed the most appropriate for a pedestrian mobile, but I also have it with me in the car and people may get the idea I'm a pretty fast runner. It would be nice to switch to an icon of a car without opening the config dialog and scrolling through that long list. There could do with being an icon of a guy in a chair with his feet up for when the thing is docked in its cradle on the desktop. :)

I'm not sure how successful my earlier suggestion of an economy mode that only gets a fix now and then would be, because as Lynn pointed out the GPS will struggle to get a fix if you are moving. I have been trying to remember to disable the GPS (or switch the phone off with the button on the top which keeps the APRS-IS connection going so you can still receive messages) but I have been switching it on and then setting off without waiting to get a fix and as a result I have travelled long distances before my next position was reported.

Julian, G4ILO