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Offline Maps

Martin Plenk
 

Hello Lynn, hello all,

I passed my Ham exam a few weeks ago and still new to APRS. I managed to get my Kenwood D710 connected to APRSISCE :-).
I will go to mongolia this summer and won't have internet connection most time of the trip. Is there a possibility to use APRSISCE with offline Maps? Due to the long trip and probably changing routes, caching the maps seems not to be an option.

Vy 73

Martin, DB1PLM


No Gps with MobilKind TNC

KF1BUZ
 

it uses the Phone which I am not using this is my set up


1. win 8 alien ware computer

2. blue tooth connection to mobilkind tnc

3. boafang radio

4. aprsisce


the program is seeing the mobilkind tnc not sure if teh tnc is triggering the radio ( i think it is ) or the program. 

I am getting a GPS error on the program and it will not let me transmit.. I turned off the GPS in the program and its still being kinda goofy.. or perhaps its me...( thats my guess)



any one use a set up like this or am I testing the waters?


Daniel KF1BUZ


Re: digipeater behaviour upon connected mode frames

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

As far as I know, APRSISCE/32 only handles UI frames.  All other frames will fail one of my consistency checks on the Protocol field in the AX.25 header.  This, of course, only applies to KISS-interfaced TNCs.

You should be able to see all APRSISCE/32 Digipeater activity in the Digi trace log if you enable it.  The non-UI traffic should show up with something in the Port() and never appear in the Digi log.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 3/12/2015 3:11 AM, helge@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Hi Lynn, hi folks,

in the Robust Packet (APRS) Network Europe we are presently working on a coordinated digipeating.

Maximum 6 digipeaters act as such while all others serve as bi-directional igate "only".

Problem: packets from connected mode QSO get digipeated as well costing a hell lot of traffic.

UI-View digipeaters now activated the ' UI only ' box which should help.

Question: After our recommended DigiXform is ...>WIDE1-1=OH6DL-10*<... for a traceable 1 hop operation

the question raised *** How does APRSIS32 react when a connected mode frame comes across? ***

Or the other way around *** Does APRSIS32 handle UI frames only ? ***

Thanks for helping on that issue!

73, Helge, DF8LS

Admin | Robust-Packet-Network | _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________




digipeater behaviour upon connected mode frames

helge@...
 

Hi Lynn, hi folks,

in the Robust Packet (APRS) Network Europe we are presently working on a coordinated digipeating.

Maximum 6 digipeaters act as such while all others serve as bi-directional igate "only".

Problem: packets from connected mode QSO get digipeated as well costing a hell lot of traffic.

UI-View digipeaters now activated the ' UI only ' box which should help.

Question: After our recommended DigiXform is ...>WIDE1-1=OH6DL-10*<... for a traceable 1 hop operation

the question raised *** How does APRSIS32 react when a connected mode frame comes across? ***

Or the other way around *** Does APRSIS32 handle UI frames only ? ***

Thanks for helping on that issue!

73, Helge, DF8LS

Admin | Robust-Packet-Network | _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________



Re: Hi all New guy here

Fred Hillhouse
 

Default: left clicks will get to a different map projection without any maps, right clicks will get full intensity of the maps.

There is an alternate use of the left/right arrows that control brightness under toolbarèscreenèbrightness.

 

When you install, simply unzip to an directory outside of the “program files” playground. Many of us just do something like C:\APRSIS32. but you can pick your poison.

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

PS Have you checked out the WIKI at http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/?

 

 

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:23 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Hi all New guy here

 

 

Fred,

 I Did that at start up i get the wire world thats it will uninstall and try again

 

 

thanks for the fast reply

 

Daniel Kf1BUZ

 


Re: Hi all New guy here

KF1BUZ
 

okay we are doing good now!

next is
 I have a mobilkind tnc bluetooth and a boafang radio. (dreaming that ti\his will work)

its set up for my phone which works great ish hahah

 any helppers?

Dan Kf1buz


Re: Hi all New guy here

KF1BUZ
 

Fred,
 I Did that at start up i get the wire world thats it will uninstall and try again


thanks for the fast reply

Daniel Kf1BUZ


Re: Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

Fred Hillhouse
 

I am thinking the flash drive speed might be making Windows think there is an error. Normally I wouldn’t pan around or be changing much as far a maps are concerned. I might try the C drive as well.

 

I’ll run it again tonight on the way home and check it out. The quick lunch time test in the parking seemed to work, although I don’t think I saw the D72 beacon.

 

Interesting, I have never heard the sound before, it works on the tablet. And, there are other things that are different such as what is saved when the program is exited and restarted.

 

I created tiles and desktop icons for APRSIS32 and MCP-4 but not on the taskbar yet.

 

Thanks!

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

 

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:19 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

 

 

Running APRSIS32 in the C: drive.  Didn't change anything in the XML, using KWD710 APRS not packet.  Same deal as the home station except that it is a desktop and D710.  Both instances C: and KWD710 APRS setting.  Both are running 8.1 and for quick launch I pinned them to the taskbar.

 

Carl,KB1EJH

 


From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

 

 

Hi Carl,

 

Good to hear you are successful!

 

It seems the funky when transmitting is passed. I used several different USB cables with similar and am now back to the original which has a choke.

 

Are you running from a USB flash drive? I am trying to and for the most part it is okay. I was getting a drive error so I changed the flash drive with the same results. I let the system ‘fix’ the drive and maybe that problem is gone. I did not see it in the short time before heading back inside to my desk.

 

Did you make any changes to the open/close commands in your XML?

 

Thanks!

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto: aprsisce@... ]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 7:51 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

 

 

No, it has worked much better than I expected actually.  I do use an old VTECH cable from the kid's toys that has a choke built in to the USB cable, it is only about 12" long overall.  I have used the set up for both this program and for RMS Express on UHF @1200b.  It is a great set up to take to the field with as it is pocket sized.  The screen is a bit small but with the HDMI output and BT for the mouse and keyboard I have it is a winner by far.  I have a Venue8 and it only has the one micro USB which is a pain in the ...  The WinBook with the ports makes it a much better unit.  Try swapping out the cable you are using and it might get rid of the gremlins when the D72 transmits.

 

Carl,KB1EJH

 


From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]" < aprsisce@... >
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

 

 

Hi Carl,

 

Do you have any problem with the WinBook doing something funky when the radio transmits? It appears I am but maybe it is because everything is close at the moment.

 

Thanks!

Fred N7FMH

 


 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto: aprsisce@... ]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:06 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

 

 

Fred,

I picked up one for a WiRES-X project but bailed on that and have it working for APRSIS32 and the D72 and it works great.  It makes a great portable-pocket sized APRS unit with the D72.  All you need is the USB to Mini USB cable and it is up and running with maps and packet paths.

 

Carl,KB1EJH

 


From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]" < aprsisce@... >
To: aprsisce@... ; aprsis32cafe@...
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72 [2 Attachments]

 

[Attachment(s) from Fred Hillhouse Jr included below]

Just in case you are interested in a Windows tablet …

 

After reading about the WinBook TW700 I decided to buy a couple.

 

 

The lower cable plugged into the WinBook is the power (USB micro), next up is a Staples USB hub. Connected to the hub is an USB flash drive with APRSIS32 and the D72.

 

I haven’t been in range of any other stations so I can’t say I have the correct configuration in APRSIS32 but I was able to read the radio configuration using Kenwood’s software. I will be running everything in my vehicle for the commute home later today.

 

I have connected the TW700 to the internet through my phone (running a hotspot) so I can have an internet connection if needed.

 

 

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

Carl Davis
 

Running APRSIS32 in the C: drive.  Didn't change anything in the XML, using KWD710 APRS not packet.  Same deal as the home station except that it is a desktop and D710.  Both instances C: and KWD710 APRS setting.  Both are running 8.1 and for quick launch I pinned them to the taskbar.
 
Carl,KB1EJH


From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72



Hi Carl,
 
Good to hear you are successful!
 
It seems the funky when transmitting is passed. I used several different USB cables with similar and am now back to the original which has a choke.
 
Are you running from a USB flash drive? I am trying to and for the most part it is okay. I was getting a drive error so I changed the flash drive with the same results. I let the system ‘fix’ the drive and maybe that problem is gone. I did not see it in the short time before heading back inside to my desk.
 
Did you make any changes to the open/close commands in your XML?
 
Thanks!
 
Best regards,
Fred N7FMH
 
 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto: aprsisce@... ]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 7:51 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72
 
 
No, it has worked much better than I expected actually.  I do use an old VTECH cable from the kid's toys that has a choke built in to the USB cable, it is only about 12" long overall.  I have used the set up for both this program and for RMS Express on UHF @1200b.  It is a great set up to take to the field with as it is pocket sized.  The screen is a bit small but with the HDMI output and BT for the mouse and keyboard I have it is a winner by far.  I have a Venue8 and it only has the one micro USB which is a pain in the ...  The WinBook with the ports makes it a much better unit.  Try swapping out the cable you are using and it might get rid of the gremlins when the D72 transmits.
 
Carl,KB1EJH
 

From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]" < aprsisce@... >
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72
 
 
Hi Carl,
 
Do you have any problem with the WinBook doing something funky when the radio transmits? It appears I am but maybe it is because everything is close at the moment.
 
Thanks!
Fred N7FMH
 

 
From: aprsisce@... [mailto: aprsisce@... ]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:06 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72
 
 
Fred,
I picked up one for a WiRES-X project but bailed on that and have it working for APRSIS32 and the D72 and it works great.  It makes a great portable-pocket sized APRS unit with the D72.  All you need is the USB to Mini USB cable and it is up and running with maps and packet paths.
 
Carl,KB1EJH
 

From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]" < aprsisce@... >
To: aprsisce@... ; aprsis32cafe@...
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72 [2 Attachments]
 
[Attachment(s) from Fred Hillhouse Jr included below]
Just in case you are interested in a Windows tablet …
 
After reading about the WinBook TW700 I decided to buy a couple.
 
 
The lower cable plugged into the WinBook is the power (USB micro), next up is a Staples USB hub. Connected to the hub is an USB flash drive with APRSIS32 and the D72.
 
I haven’t been in range of any other stations so I can’t say I have the correct configuration in APRSIS32 but I was able to read the radio configuration using Kenwood’s software. I will be running everything in my vehicle for the commute home later today.
 
I have connected the TW700 to the internet through my phone (running a hotspot) so I can have an internet connection if needed.
 
 
 
Best regards,
Fred N7FMH
 
 
 
 





Re: Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

Fred Hillhouse
 

Hi Carl,

 

Good to hear you are successful!

 

It seems the funky when transmitting is passed. I used several different USB cables with similar and am now back to the original which has a choke.

 

Are you running from a USB flash drive? I am trying to and for the most part it is okay. I was getting a drive error so I changed the flash drive with the same results. I let the system ‘fix’ the drive and maybe that problem is gone. I did not see it in the short time before heading back inside to my desk.

 

Did you make any changes to the open/close commands in your XML?

 

Thanks!

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 7:51 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

 

 

No, it has worked much better than I expected actually.  I do use an old VTECH cable from the kid's toys that has a choke built in to the USB cable, it is only about 12" long overall.  I have used the set up for both this program and for RMS Express on UHF @1200b.  It is a great set up to take to the field with as it is pocket sized.  The screen is a bit small but with the HDMI output and BT for the mouse and keyboard I have it is a winner by far.  I have a Venue8 and it only has the one micro USB which is a pain in the ...  The WinBook with the ports makes it a much better unit.  Try swapping out the cable you are using and it might get rid of the gremlins when the D72 transmits.

 

Carl,KB1EJH

 


From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

 

 

Hi Carl,

 

Do you have any problem with the WinBook doing something funky when the radio transmits? It appears I am but maybe it is because everything is close at the moment.

 

Thanks!

Fred N7FMH

 


 

From: aprsisce@... [mailto: aprsisce@... ]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:06 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

 

 

Fred,

I picked up one for a WiRES-X project but bailed on that and have it working for APRSIS32 and the D72 and it works great.  It makes a great portable-pocket sized APRS unit with the D72.  All you need is the USB to Mini USB cable and it is up and running with maps and packet paths.

 

Carl,KB1EJH

 


From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]" < aprsisce@... >
To: aprsisce@... ; aprsis32cafe@...
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72 [2 Attachments]

 

[Attachment(s) from Fred Hillhouse Jr included below]

Just in case you are interested in a Windows tablet …

 

After reading about the WinBook TW700 I decided to buy a couple.

 

 

The lower cable plugged into the WinBook is the power (USB micro), next up is a Staples USB hub. Connected to the hub is an USB flash drive with APRSIS32 and the D72.

 

I haven’t been in range of any other stations so I can’t say I have the correct configuration in APRSIS32 but I was able to read the radio configuration using Kenwood’s software. I will be running everything in my vehicle for the commute home later today.

 

I have connected the TW700 to the internet through my phone (running a hotspot) so I can have an internet connection if needed.

 

 

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 

 

 


Re: Hi all New guy here

Fred Hillhouse
 

Press right arrow a bunch of times and that will change the map contrast.

 

Center the map on your location. On your location, right click on map, mouse over the coordinates and select “move me”.

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:24 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Hi all New guy here

 

 

I installed the program and everything looks great exept I am not seeing any map data.. which is prolly something I did wrong so my me placement is way off and cant figure how to move it.

 

any how have more questions but time for work.

 

thanks

Daniel Kf1buz

 


Hi all New guy here

KF1BUZ
 

I installed the program and everything looks great exept I am not seeing any map data.. which is prolly something I did wrong so my me placement is way off and cant figure how to move it.


any how have more questions but time for work.


thanks

Daniel Kf1buz



Re: Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

Carl Davis
 

No, it has worked much better than I expected actually.  I do use an old VTECH cable from the kid's toys that has a choke built in to the USB cable, it is only about 12" long overall.  I have used the set up for both this program and for RMS Express on UHF @1200b.  It is a great set up to take to the field with as it is pocket sized.  The screen is a bit small but with the HDMI output and BT for the mouse and keyboard I have it is a winner by far.  I have a Venue8 and it only has the one micro USB which is a pain in the ...  The WinBook with the ports makes it a much better unit.  Try swapping out the cable you are using and it might get rid of the gremlins when the D72 transmits.
 
Carl,KB1EJH


From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72



Hi Carl,
 
Do you have any problem with the WinBook doing something funky when the radio transmits? It appears I am but maybe it is because everything is close at the moment.
 
Thanks!
Fred N7FMH
 



From: aprsisce@... [mailto: aprsisce@... ]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:06 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72
 
 
Fred,
I picked up one for a WiRES-X project but bailed on that and have it working for APRSIS32 and the D72 and it works great.  It makes a great portable-pocket sized APRS unit with the D72.  All you need is the USB to Mini USB cable and it is up and running with maps and packet paths.
 
Carl,KB1EJH
 

From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]" < aprsisce@... >
To: aprsisce@... ; aprsis32cafe@...
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72 [2 Attachments]
 
[Attachment(s) from Fred Hillhouse Jr included below]
Just in case you are interested in a Windows tablet …
 
After reading about the WinBook TW700 I decided to buy a couple.
 
 
The lower cable plugged into the WinBook is the power (USB micro), next up is a Staples USB hub. Connected to the hub is an USB flash drive with APRSIS32 and the D72.
 
I haven’t been in range of any other stations so I can’t say I have the correct configuration in APRSIS32 but I was able to read the radio configuration using Kenwood’s software. I will be running everything in my vehicle for the commute home later today.
 
I have connected the TW700 to the internet through my phone (running a hotspot) so I can have an internet connection if needed.
 
 
 
Best regards,
Fred N7FMH
 
 





Re: Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

Fred Hillhouse
 

Hi Carl,

 

Do you have any problem with the WinBook doing something funky when the radio transmits? It appears I am but maybe it is because everything is close at the moment.

 

Thanks!

Fred N7FMH

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:06 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

 

 

Fred,

I picked up one for a WiRES-X project but bailed on that and have it working for APRSIS32 and the D72 and it works great.  It makes a great portable-pocket sized APRS unit with the D72.  All you need is the USB to Mini USB cable and it is up and running with maps and packet paths.

 

Carl,KB1EJH

 


From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...; aprsis32cafe@...
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72 [2 Attachments]

 

[Attachment(s) from Fred Hillhouse Jr included below]

Just in case you are interested in a Windows tablet …

 

After reading about the WinBook TW700 I decided to buy a couple.

 

 

The lower cable plugged into the WinBook is the power (USB micro), next up is a Staples USB hub. Connected to the hub is an USB flash drive with APRSIS32 and the D72.

 

I haven’t been in range of any other stations so I can’t say I have the correct configuration in APRSIS32 but I was able to read the radio configuration using Kenwood’s software. I will be running everything in my vehicle for the commute home later today.

 

I have connected the TW700 to the internet through my phone (running a hotspot) so I can have an internet connection if needed.

 

 

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 


Re: Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72 [2 Attachments]

Carl Davis
 

Fred,
I picked up one for a WiRES-X project but bailed on that and have it working for APRSIS32 and the D72 and it works great.  It makes a great portable-pocket sized APRS unit with the D72.  All you need is the USB to Mini USB cable and it is up and running with maps and packet paths.
 
Carl,KB1EJH


From: "'Fred Hillhouse Jr' fmhillhouse@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...; aprsis32cafe@...
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72 [2 Attachments]

[Attachment(s) from Fred Hillhouse Jr included below]

Just in case you are interested in a Windows tablet …
 
After reading about the WinBook TW700 I decided to buy a couple.
 
 
The lower cable plugged into the WinBook is the power (USB micro), next up is a Staples USB hub. Connected to the hub is an USB flash drive with APRSIS32 and the D72.
 
I haven’t been in range of any other stations so I can’t say I have the correct configuration in APRSIS32 but I was able to read the radio configuration using Kenwood’s software. I will be running everything in my vehicle for the commute home later today.
 
I have connected the TW700 to the internet through my phone (running a hotspot) so I can have an internet connection if needed.
 
 
 
Best regards,
Fred N7FMH





Winbook TW700 and Kenwood D72

Fred Hillhouse
 

Just in case you are interested in a Windows tablet …

 

After reading about the WinBook TW700 I decided to buy a couple.

 

http://wa8lmf.net/WinbookTablet/

 

The lower cable plugged into the WinBook is the power (USB micro), next up is a Staples USB hub. Connected to the hub is an USB flash drive with APRSIS32 and the D72.

 

I haven’t been in range of any other stations so I can’t say I have the correct configuration in APRSIS32 but I was able to read the radio configuration using Kenwood’s software. I will be running everything in my vehicle for the commute home later today.

 

I have connected the TW700 to the internet through my phone (running a hotspot) so I can have an internet connection if needed.

 

 

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH


Re: KPC 3+ help

n4trn14
 

James,

Thank you.  I will look into it. :) 

Keith 

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 4:55 PM, James Ewen ve6srv@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Keith Boyer n4trn12@...
[aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:

> Well the KPC is not hearing the packets. From what I have been told, there are some
> commands to reset the KPC? If so what are they? I have not used the KPC in 10 years +...

Page 205 http://www.kantronics.com/documents/kpc-3plus_manual_RevD.pdf

> How do or can I hook up the KPC directly to the laptop to see what the current KPC setting are?

Try using this:

>> I have a cable that goes from the KPC to my laptop to a converter USB to RS 232.

Page 32 http://www.kantronics.com/documents/kpc-3plus_manual_RevD.pdf

You said you had a cable from the KPC to the laptop and a USB to
RS-232 converter, so that's probably your quickest solution, since
it's already in place.

If you are having issues with figuring out the "extremely complicated
serial port" communications with the KPC-3+, you might want to look at
modifying the KPC-3+ to have a built in USB port.

http://www.projecttraveler.org/how-to-s/50-converting-kpc-3-to-usb

Zack makes a few erroneous comments, like "hard-to-find DB-25
connectors", which is pretty silly since these components are
extremely easy to source, and can probably be recycled out of many old
pieces of equipment or cables laying around.

Once you are done with the modification to the KPC-3+, you'll still
have the same issues as before though. You'll need to get a
"hard-to-find USB cable" to go between the computer and KPC-3+. You'll
still need to deal with the USB to serial conversion, and figure out
which port the device is going to be enumerated as in the computer.

There are quite a few more pages in the KPC-3+ user manual. Many of
them contain quite a bit of very useful information. If you issue a
RESTORE command, the KPC-3+ will return to factory default settings,
and allow you to start from a known configuration. However, you're
going to have to get the communication from the laptop to the KPC-3+
working before you can send a RESTORE command.

That would be my step 4... get the physical communications between the
TNC and laptop operational. Page 30 and following of the manual talks
about getting the serial communications in place and working. There's
far more written in the manual than I wish to retype in an email.

James
VE6SRV




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Keith Boyer N4TRN
Orange County ARES
AEC Assistant Manager Skywarn Orange County, FL

Faith Assembly Traffic and Safety
Lead / Coordinator / Trainer


Re: KPC 3+ help

James Ewen
 

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Keith Boyer n4trn12@gmail.com
[aprsisce] <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Well the KPC is not hearing the packets. From what I have been told, there are some
commands to reset the KPC? If so what are they? I have not used the KPC in 10 years +...
Page 205 http://www.kantronics.com/documents/kpc-3plus_manual_RevD.pdf


How do or can I hook up the KPC directly to the laptop to see what the current KPC setting are?
Try using this:

I have a cable that goes from the KPC to my laptop to a converter USB to RS 232.
Page 32 http://www.kantronics.com/documents/kpc-3plus_manual_RevD.pdf

You said you had a cable from the KPC to the laptop and a USB to
RS-232 converter, so that's probably your quickest solution, since
it's already in place.


If you are having issues with figuring out the "extremely complicated
serial port" communications with the KPC-3+, you might want to look at
modifying the KPC-3+ to have a built in USB port.

http://www.projecttraveler.org/how-to-s/50-converting-kpc-3-to-usb

Zack makes a few erroneous comments, like "hard-to-find DB-25
connectors", which is pretty silly since these components are
extremely easy to source, and can probably be recycled out of many old
pieces of equipment or cables laying around.

Once you are done with the modification to the KPC-3+, you'll still
have the same issues as before though. You'll need to get a
"hard-to-find USB cable" to go between the computer and KPC-3+. You'll
still need to deal with the USB to serial conversion, and figure out
which port the device is going to be enumerated as in the computer.

There are quite a few more pages in the KPC-3+ user manual. Many of
them contain quite a bit of very useful information. If you issue a
RESTORE command, the KPC-3+ will return to factory default settings,
and allow you to start from a known configuration. However, you're
going to have to get the communication from the laptop to the KPC-3+
working before you can send a RESTORE command.

That would be my step 4... get the physical communications between the
TNC and laptop operational. Page 30 and following of the manual talks
about getting the serial communications in place and working. There's
far more written in the manual than I wish to retype in an email.

James
VE6SRV


Re: KPC 3+ help

n4trn14
 

James,

Well the KPC is not hearing the packets.  From what I have been told, there are some commands to reset the KPC?  If so what are they?  I have not used the KPC in 10 years +...

How do or can I hook up the KPC directly to the laptop to see what the current KPC setting are?

Thanks,

Keith 

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:51 PM, James Ewen ve6srv@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

It's a pretty easy process...

1) Get the radio hearing the packet tones on RF. 
2) Get the audio from the radio into the TNC.
3) Get the TNC decoding packets.
4) Get the TNC delivering the packets to the computer.
5) Get the APRS application picking up the packets.
6) Watch the APRS display.

Once that's all in place, most of the transmit chain is already in place.
You just have to make sure that the TNC activates the PTT, and the radio transmits, but that should be part of steps 2/3 when you are interfacing the radio and TNC.

So, you've told us that you have step 1 working, but step 6 doesn't.

What about the rest of the chain?

Does the KPC-3+ show that it is receiving packets? (LEDs) Get that going and you have the proper wiring and decode levels. (Steps 2 and 3)

Can you talk to the KPC-3+ using PUTTY? Get that going and you'll know you have the right com port and communications settings. (Step 4)

Get both of the above going and you'll find that APRSISCE/32 then works when you tell it to talk to the TNC. (Step 5)


James
VE6SRV

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Keith Boyer n4trn12@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:


Lynn or whomever,

I am working at getting ready for the ADA bike tour.  I am attempting to use my own equipment. 

I have the 6-pin data cable that goes from Yaesu FT-7800R to KPC.  I have a cable that goes from the KPC to my laptop to a converter USB to RS 232.

configurations:

KPC3+ (simply KISS) :
FRbaud: 1200 , other boxes check as needed. DEVICE: comm 1 / 9600 baud / party none, data 8, stop 1. 

I also purchased a MFJ 5429 at Orlando Hamcation.  I tried it but I am not doing something right. 

I am not sure what I am doing wrong but I hear aprs on the radio. But I do not see any activity on the laptop.  

the left colunm show that  KPC+ is open. But the software is chirping off and there is no incoming RF traffic.

I also have: AGW, PUTTY and Clear Terminal.  

What am I missing? 

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Keith 







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Orange County ARES
AEC Assistant Manager Skywarn Orange County, FL

Faith Assembly Traffic and Safety
Lead / Coordinator / Trainer


Re: KPC 3+ help

James Ewen
 

We're looking at the same process, just putting the eggs in different baskets...

It's up above freezing today, much too warm to sit in the house! Gotta go outside and bask in the sunshine, and start on my tan!



On Saturday, March 7, 2015, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:


The key in Step 5 "in my mind" is  " ... and program...."

So using another program (TeraTerm vs. APRSIS32) is still ensure Step 4 (TNC to computer are communicating).  I could use TeraTerm with the TNC at 19200 and the KPC3+ autobaud function and have no problems, which in my mind  step 5 would not be satisfied by "my process", but Step 4 (connection to computer working) is verified.


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


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From: "James Ewen ve6srv@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: "aprsisce@..." <aprsisce@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] KPC 3+ help

 
> Check the APRSIS32 log for the port -> best guess is the TNC is not in KISS mode.
> KPC3+(SimpleKISS) means you have to place the TNC in KISS mode before starting APRSIS32.
> Open terminal program and send the commands to place the KPC3+ in KISS mode:
> cmd: INTFACE KISS
> cmd: reset
> after the reset, you will not get a prompt.
>
> BTW:
> From James' post, connecting to the TNC and communicating to change these settings accounts for step 4.

I'd consider it step 5...

Step 4 in my mind would be ensuring that the physical connection
between the TNC and computer is working.

Step 5 would be configuring the communications parameters in both the
TNC and program so they speak the same language.

This is probably due my background in radio communications. I make the
physical world work, and then worry about making the software do it's
thing. Wires are number one, so you can talk to the devices, then make
sure the RF side is working, then make the application work.

Since this is APRS and you're only working on one end point, we know
the radio is able to receive from the information provided, so we jump
to wires, both between TNC and radio, as well as TNC and computer.
Then check to see if the data is being decoded and delivered to the
laptop. After that it's all configuration.

At work, when I get the data being delivered to the port, I'm done.
Some one else has to configure the PLC and get the communications
working.

Keith wrote:

> I am working at getting ready for the ADA bike tour. I am attempting to use my own equipment.
> I am not sure what I am doing wrong but I hear aprs on the radio. But I do not see any activity on the laptop.
> What am I missing?

We have a wiki page that answers this question:

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/what-am-i-missing

James
VE6SRV






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VE6SRV

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