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Re: NWS Messages

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Clear / Clear NWS Messages.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 2/26/2015 2:12 PM, kk4lqx@... [aprsisce] wrote:

How do I keep the NWS messages from stacking up in the message que and having to click though a ton of them to make them all go away. I have to do it so often I don't know if someone has actually messaged me. I do use the NWS stuff for the shape files.


Thanks in advance


Evan



Re: NWS Messages

Fred Hillhouse
 

I think if you check toolbar-->configure-->message-->but not NWS you will get what you need.

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 2:12 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] NWS Messages

 

 

How do I keep the NWS messages from stacking up in the message que and having to click though a ton of them to make them all go away. I have to do it so often I don't know if someone has actually messaged me. I do use the NWS stuff for the shape files.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Evan


Re: Multiple Devices

Fred Hillhouse
 

The only way is to use a different instance for each piece.

 

Best regards,

Fred N7FMH

 

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 2:08 PM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Multiple Devices

 

 

Hello,

 

            I'm currently running the latest DEV version of APRSIS32 and have 3 TNCs hooked up.
1. KAM-E connected to a Motorola Spectra on 144.39.
2. SignaLink USB connected to a Kenwood TS-570D on 10.147.60 USB (soon to be connected via KAM-E).

3. Kenwood TH-D72A on 145.825 for Satellite Work.

 

I'm having difficulties keeping the 3 different "modes" from beaconing things I don't want them to. For example I only want repeater objects to go out on 144.39 and even though I have "Bulletin/Obj" unchecked on the D72 and HF they still beacon them. How can I tell the software to only send certain things out over certain devices?

 

Thank you in advance

 

Evan


NWS Messages

kk4lqx@...
 

How do I keep the NWS messages from stacking up in the message que and having to click though a ton of them to make them all go away. I have to do it so often I don't know if someone has actually messaged me. I do use the NWS stuff for the shape files.


Thanks in advance


Evan


Multiple Devices

kk4lqx@...
 

Hello,


I'm currently running the latest DEV version of APRSIS32 and have 3 TNCs hooked up.
1. KAM-E connected to a Motorola Spectra on 144.39.
2. SignaLink USB connected to a Kenwood TS-570D on 10.147.60 USB (soon to be connected via KAM-E).

3. Kenwood TH-D72A on 145.825 for Satellite Work.


I'm having difficulties keeping the 3 different "modes" from beaconing things I don't want them to. For example I only want repeater objects to go out on 144.39 and even though I have "Bulletin/Obj" unchecked on the D72 and HF they still beacon them. How can I tell the software to only send certain things out over certain devices?


Thank you in advance


Evan


APRSIS32 Robust Packet 600 baud

Bill Erhardt
 

Howdy gang, KM7DES-6 robust packet 600 baud APRS on 10147.300 mhz was activated today at Ft. Harrison, Mt. using ARPSIS32. I got the proper KISS setting from the robustpacket.net web page in the manual section for the SCS PTCIIex (x = extra which is robust packet).


Right now it is standalone to get a feel for tx/rx coverage. So far so good.


I also have the UZ7HO software modem K7MT-11 with my USB signalink on 300 baud HF APRS with APRSIS32 on 10147.600 at my QTH. The UZ7HO software rocks and I say this because I copied data from the Montana State University's Firebird 3/4 satellite on 70 cm with a $15.00 SDR NOOELEC USB receiver using SDR Sharp and UZ7HO G3RUH  at 19,200 baud. Not bad for a free software modem. Yep it rocks.


Bill K7MT Helena, Mt.

Custodian for KM7DES Ft. Harrison, Mt.


Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

Rob Giuliano
 

Those work well, and I'd recommend the "tweak".
Way back when on my KPC-3, time ran a bit slow.  I would make a "small change" to DayTweak and check it every "few days" when it matched for a month, I left it (that was 1 second in a month - pretty good fro me).
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


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From: "k7mt@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:08 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

 
Howdy from Bill K7MT.  I just went ahead and got the RTC (Real Time Clock) for $12.00, set the time, and the internal battery keeps it tickin. Even after being powered off for a couple three days the time was really close. There is an adjustment command daytweak if needed.



Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

Bill Erhardt
 

Howdy from Bill K7MT.  I just went ahead and got the RTC (Real Time Clock) for $12.00, set the time, and the internal battery keeps it tickin. Even after being powered off for a couple three days the time was really close. There is an adjustment command daytweak if needed.


Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

kk4lqx@...
 

For me I use my TNC for a varity of things not just APRS, although that is where it spends 90% of it's time. I was just curious if it were possible. Is a setting it might as well be correct. Sorry to stir up such a hornets nest.


Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

 

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:20 AM, kc6vvt@gmail.com [aprsisce]
<aprsisce@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Again, not having a way to connect to your TNC in a terminal mode (exit KISS
mode) while in the program to allow and operator to refine parameters and
settings in the TNC, like the internal clock,and then easily return to the
APRSIS32 program, i
Bob WB4APR has had this exit and re-enter feature for a long time in the
APRSdos version, and it is really useful for those Kantronics TNC users to
access the TNC command set

Similarly JNOS has a simple built in Terminal emulator, KISS Parms,
and a way to send simple text to a 'port.' All are very handy when
dealing with a cranky TNC interface.

Bill


Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

Rob Giuliano
 

Don't forget that in order for the terminal program to do "its thing", it needs to change the TNC mode.  The TNC 'should be' in KISS mode when APRSIS32 running.  In order to change settings, you will need to change out of KISS mode (to command mode) in order to modify the TNC settings.
The only reason I can see for have this is if the GPS is connected to the TNC and the TNC is capable of "beaconing" on its own.  To my knowledge, the Kantronics TNCs are not able to do this when placed in KISS mode. 
 
It seems the sequence of events for something like this would be something like:
  APRSIS32 running
  Open Terminal -> Automatic force KISS EXIT?
      APRSIS32 still running, but RF capability is DISABLED because TNC is in the wrong mode
      Do whatever 'Terminal activity' you desire
   Exit Terminal -> Automatic re-enter KISS mode?
      APRSIS32 still running and RF is "capable" again
      Nothing done in the terminal is being used as the TNC is in KISS mode. 
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


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From: "'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

 
On 2/25/2015 8:20 AM, kc6vvt@... [aprsisce] wrote:
>
> Again, not having a way to connect to your TNC in a terminal mode
> (exit KISS mode) while in the program to allow and operator to refine
> parameters and settings in the TNC, like the internal clock,and then
> easily return to the APRSIS32 program, is a very annoying flaw.

Disable the port, bring up a terminal emulator, do your thing, and
re-enable the port. It's not really that hard. You don't even need to
close APRSIS32 to do it.

>
> Bob WB4APR has had this exit and re-enter feature for a long time in
> the APRSdos version,

And I recall reading somewhere that, like UI-View, the source code to
Bob's APRSdos doesn't exist any more. Ouch.

> and it is really useful for those Kantronics TNC users to access the
> TNC command set that is blocked by APRSIS32 program running the TNC is
> Kiss mode.

APRSIS32 doesn't explicitly block the port. It is blocked by Windows
because COMM ports are not implicitly shareable.

Have you tried using one of the virtual serial port programs that let
multiple programs open a pseudo-port which is internally associated with
a "real" port? You could point both APRSISCE/32 and your favorite
terminal emulator to the shareable port and hack at the command to your
heart's content. I don't have any assurances that APRSISCE/32 will like
what you're doing, though.

>
> Will there ever be a TNC Terminal Mode version of APRSIS32 for real
> operators?

What's a "fake" operator? "Real" folks use *nix which, to my knowledge,
frowns on swiss-army-knife applications and delivers single function
tools for the user to cobble together to make something more useful.
What business does a terminal emulator have in an APRS client application?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS. Short answer for those that get this far: yes, eventually
APRSISCE/32 will have some terminal-type access to TNC ports.




Re: APRSlink

Jose Manuel Martinez Barbera
 

the website is down

2015-02-25 13:10 GMT+00:00 kc6vvt@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...>:

 

Anyone available that can test APRSlink using their APRSIS32 terminal?


APRSlink is used to send multi-line email and get a reply or responses via the WinLink 2000 interface, not unlike the email function in the Messages function. 


Information on APRSlink, which has worked for me in the past, may be found here:
http://www.winlink.org/aprslink


Someday, I hope Messages may also have a drop down selection choice for Send APRSLink (to WL2K-1), not unlike the Send EMail box, 





Re: APRSlink

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

On 2/25/2015 8:10 AM, kc6vvt@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Information on APRSlink, which has worked for me in the past, may be found here:

http://www.winlink.org/aprslink


After a long timeout, http://www.winlink.org/aprslink gives me:

500 - Internal server error.

There is a problem with the resource you are looking for, and it cannot be displayed.


Got another link with info?  Or is it the same as I just found at:

http://www.df8ls.de/documents/APRSlink.pdf

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

On 2/24/2015 7:40 PM, kk4lqx@gmail.com [aprsisce] wrote:
Is there a way to have APRSIS send the DAYTIME command with the current date and time to a Kantronics TNC? I know the command is DAYTIME and the format is YYMMDDHHMMSS. I'm fairly certain I could insert the DAYTIME command into the <OpenCmd> section of the port config the APRSIS.xml file.

My guess is that it would be <OpenCmd>DAYTIME YYMMDDHHMMSS</OpenCmd> but that's just a guess.
If you're running the TNC in KISS mode, it becomes a dumb modem anyway, so why worry about telling it what time it is?

If you're not running in KISS mode, which port type are you using in APRSISCE/32 that allows the TNC to do work while still allowing APRSISCE/32 transmit access? I'm really curious.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

On 2/25/2015 8:20 AM, kc6vvt@gmail.com [aprsisce] wrote:

Again, not having a way to connect to your TNC in a terminal mode (exit KISS mode) while in the program to allow and operator to refine parameters and settings in the TNC, like the internal clock,and then easily return to the APRSIS32 program, is a very annoying flaw.
Disable the port, bring up a terminal emulator, do your thing, and re-enable the port. It's not really that hard. You don't even need to close APRSIS32 to do it.


Bob WB4APR has had this exit and re-enter feature for a long time in the APRSdos version,
And I recall reading somewhere that, like UI-View, the source code to Bob's APRSdos doesn't exist any more. Ouch.

and it is really useful for those Kantronics TNC users to access the TNC command set that is blocked by APRSIS32 program running the TNC is Kiss mode.
APRSIS32 doesn't explicitly block the port. It is blocked by Windows because COMM ports are not implicitly shareable.

Have you tried using one of the virtual serial port programs that let multiple programs open a pseudo-port which is internally associated with a "real" port? You could point both APRSISCE/32 and your favorite terminal emulator to the shareable port and hack at the command to your heart's content. I don't have any assurances that APRSISCE/32 will like what you're doing, though.


Will there ever be a TNC Terminal Mode version of APRSIS32 for real operators?
What's a "fake" operator? "Real" folks use *nix which, to my knowledge, frowns on swiss-army-knife applications and delivers single function tools for the user to cobble together to make something more useful. What business does a terminal emulator have in an APRS client application?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS. Short answer for those that get this far: yes, eventually APRSISCE/32 will have some terminal-type access to TNC ports.


Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

Randy Love
 

Pat,

Why the need to set the date/time in the KPC3?

APRSIS32 sets the date and time stamp information on the packets it receives internal to the program. It doesn't use the time from the TNC.

Are you looking for APRSIS32 to become a dumb terminal in addition to a very well written APRS application, which is it's purpose?

Is there concurrent connected and APRS traffic on the same channel where you are? That would seem very inefficient use of bandwidth to this real operator.

73,
Randy
WF5X




On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:20 AM, kc6vvt@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
 

Again, not having a way to connect to your TNC in a terminal mode (exit KISS mode) while in the program to allow and operator to refine parameters and settings in the TNC, like the internal clock,and then easily return to the APRSIS32 program, is a very annoying flaw.


Bob WB4APR has had this exit and re-enter feature for a long time in the APRSdos version, and it is really useful for those Kantronics TNC users to access the TNC command set that is blocked by APRSIS32 program running the TNC is Kiss mode.

Will there ever be a TNC Terminal Mode version of APRSIS32 for real operators?

73 de Pat KC6VVT



Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

R. Patrick Ryan
 

Again, not having a way to connect to your TNC in a terminal mode (exit KISS mode) while in the program to allow and operator to refine parameters and settings in the TNC, like the internal clock,and then easily return to the APRSIS32 program, is a very annoying flaw.

Bob WB4APR has had this exit and re-enter feature for a long time in the APRSdos version, and it is really useful for those Kantronics TNC users to access the TNC command set that is blocked by APRSIS32 program running the TNC is Kiss mode.

Will there ever be a TNC Terminal Mode version of APRSIS32 for real operators?

73 de Pat KC6VVT


APRSlink

R. Patrick Ryan
 

Anyone available that can test APRSlink using their APRSIS32 terminal?


APRSlink is used to send multi-line email and get a reply or responses via the WinLink 2000 interface, not unlike the email function in the Messages function. 


Information on APRSlink, which has worked for me in the past, may be found here:
http://www.winlink.org/aprslink


Someday, I hope Messages may also have a drop down selection choice for Send APRSLink (to WL2K-1), not unlike the Send EMail box, 




Re: TNC-KPC-3+ Commands Question

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

I know there are folks out there using such a KAM, so I'll let them describe their setup.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 2/24/2015 7:36 PM, kk4lqx@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Thanks for the replies! I'm actually not using a KPC-3+ I'm using a KAM All Mode. Does the same hold true for those TNCs as well?


Re: APRSIS32 HF Setup [1 Attachment]

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

The RF Baud drop-down is a Red Herring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring).  It is not used for anything and won't retain any settings.  Only the TNC and your s can affect the RF Baud in use.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 2/24/2015 8:34 PM, kk4lqx@... [aprsisce] wrote:

Hello,


I'm already running APRSIS32 successfully on VHF. I'm running it also using AGW on HF. What I would really like to do is connect a Kantronics KAM-E TNC to it and use it to run 300 baud. When I go to Configure > Ports > HF port the "RFBaud" drop down menu is greyd out and set to 1200. I've tried and set the baud rate by editing the APRSIS32.xml file but that doesn't change it either.


Any ideas?


Also is there a suggested setup for being a HF iGate?


73,

Evan


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