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Re: APRSIS32 HF Setup [1 Attachment]

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

The RF Baud drop-down is a Red Herring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring).  It is not used for anything and won't retain any settings.  Only the TNC and your s can affect the RF Baud in use.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 2/24/2015 8:34 PM, kk4lqx@... [aprsisce] wrote:

Hello,


I'm already running APRSIS32 successfully on VHF. I'm running it also using AGW on HF. What I would really like to do is connect a Kantronics KAM-E TNC to it and use it to run 300 baud. When I go to Configure > Ports > HF port the "RFBaud" drop down menu is greyd out and set to 1200. I've tried and set the baud rate by editing the APRSIS32.xml file but that doesn't change it either.


Any ideas?


Also is there a suggested setup for being a HF iGate?


73,

Evan



Re: Kantronics DAYTIME command

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Unfortunately s don't currently have any fill-in-the-blank parameter substitutions.  Unless you set the correct time in the then it won't ever be set correctly.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 2/24/2015 7:40 PM, kk4lqx@... [aprsisce] wrote:

Hello,


Is there a way to have APRSIS send the DAYTIME command with the current date and time to a Kantronics TNC? I know the command is DAYTIME and the format is YYMMDDHHMMSS. I'm fairly certain I could insert the DAYTIME command into the  section of the port config the APRSIS.xml file.


My guess is that it would be DAYTIME YYMMDDHHMMSS but that's just a guess.


Thanks in advance


73,

Evan

 



APRSIS32 HF Setup

kk4lqx@...
 

Hello,


I'm already running APRSIS32 successfully on VHF. I'm running it also using AGW on HF. What I would really like to do is connect a Kantronics KAM-E TNC to it and use it to run 300 baud. When I go to Configure > Ports > HF port the "RFBaud" drop down menu is greyd out and set to 1200. I've tried and set the baud rate by editing the APRSIS32.xml file but that doesn't change it either.


Any ideas?


Also is there a suggested setup for being a HF iGate?


73,

Evan


Kantronics DAYTIME command

kk4lqx@...
 

Hello,


Is there a way to have APRSIS send the DAYTIME command with the current date and time to a Kantronics TNC? I know the command is DAYTIME and the format is YYMMDDHHMMSS. I'm fairly certain I could insert the DAYTIME command into the <OpenCmd> section of the port config the APRSIS.xml file.


My guess is that it would be <OpenCmd>DAYTIME YYMMDDHHMMSS</OpenCmd> but that's just a guess.


Thanks in advance


73,

Evan

 


Re: TNC-KPC-3+ Commands Question

kk4lqx@...
 

Thanks for the replies! I'm actually not using a KPC-3+ I'm using a KAM All Mode. Does the same hold true for those TNCs as well?


UK Cross band igate

sbd sbd
 

Our system goes live on 70cm tomorrow it's setup using 2 instances of
APRSIS32. MB7VT-2 on 2m and -7 on 70cm.

We believe it is the only VHF/UHF cross band system in the UK

Lynn if you want access to the PC when you get to sorting it out in one
instance you are welcome

Steve
G6UIM


Re: TNC-KPC-3+ Commands Question

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Those aren't KPC-3+ commands, they're the default commands provided for a KISS type port that take a Kenwood APRS radio into and out of KISS mode, provided that the radio is in Packet mode originally.

For the KPC-3, I recommend using a terminal emulator to put the TNC into KISS mode permanently and then use a Simply(KISS) type port in APRSISCE/32.  This port type doesn't do any open or close commands, but assumes that the TNC is, and will stay in, KISS mode.

As for the issues with the KPC-3+, please read:

http://blog.aprs.fi/2011/03/kantronics-kpc3-considered-harmful.html

The videos mentioned are linked from that page.

Eventually I hope to provide a KPC-3+ demanded "feature" that will periodically drop the TNC out of KISS mode and put it back into KISS.  This has been shown to clear up the delays that this TNC firmware version seems to introduce.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 2/22/2015 9:19 PM, kk4lqx@... [aprsisce] wrote:

Hello,


I'm trying to figure out what the command are on the page title mentioned above. I have tried entering them manually and not all of them work, I also couldn't find them in the manuals. That being said when I let APRSIS32 run them everything appears to be working just fine, meaning it will transmit and receive packets. I'm using two Kantronics KAM one running firmware E8.2 and the other running E6.2. The E8.2 is for 1200 baud VHF and the E6.2 is for 300 baud HF, are these settings correct for both?


^M~ - ???
^M~ - ???
XFLOW ON!!0 - Software flow control on
FULLDUP OFF!!0 - data carrier detect
INT KISS!!0 - Interface mode KISS
RESET!!0 - soft reset of the TNC
^192^255^192~!!0 - ???
^C^C^C~!!0 - ???


Thanks in advance,


73,

Evan

KK4LQX




Re: TNC-KPC-3+ Commands Question

Carl Davis
 

Be careful using the 3+ with the program.  It can hold packets and leading to delays in gating info.  Lynn and others can explain it probably better, there is also a youtube on the problems using the 3+.
 
Carl,KB1EJH


From: "kk4lqx@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] TNC-KPC-3+ Commands Question



Hello,

I'm trying to figure out what the command are on the page title mentioned above. I have tried entering them manually and not all of them work, I also couldn't find them in the manuals. That being said when I let APRSIS32 run them everything appears to be working just fine, meaning it will transmit and receive packets. I'm using two Kantronics KAM one running firmware E8.2 and the other running E6.2. The E8.2 is for 1200 baud VHF and the E6.2 is for 300 baud HF, are these settings correct for both?

^M~ - ???
- ???
XFLOW ON!!0 - Software flow control on
FULLDUP OFF!!0
INT KISS!!0 - Interface mode KISS
RESET!!0 - soft reset of the TNC
^192^255^192~!!0 - ???
^C^C^C~!!0 - ???


Thanks in advance,

73,
Evan
KK4LQX






TNC-KPC-3+ Commands Question

kk4lqx@...
 

Hello,


I'm trying to figure out what the command are on the page title mentioned above. I have tried entering them manually and not all of them work, I also couldn't find them in the manuals. That being said when I let APRSIS32 run them everything appears to be working just fine, meaning it will transmit and receive packets. I'm using two Kantronics KAM one running firmware E8.2 and the other running E6.2. The E8.2 is for 1200 baud VHF and the E6.2 is for 300 baud HF, are these settings correct for both?


<OpenCmd>^M~</OpenCmd> - ???
<OpenCmd>^M~</OpenCmd> - ???
<OpenCmd>XFLOW ON!!0</OpenCmd> - Software flow control on
<OpenCmd>FULLDUP OFF!!0</OpenCmd> - data carrier detect
<OpenCmd>INT KISS!!0</OpenCmd> - Interface mode KISS
<OpenCmd>RESET!!0</OpenCmd> - soft reset of the TNC
<CloseCmd>^192^255^192~!!0</CloseCmd> - ???
<CloseCmd>^C^C^C~!!0</CloseCmd> - ???


Thanks in advance,


73,

Evan

KK4LQX



Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE

robt.harris
 

Since the two interact, either and/or both.

Whenever I have set up a TT4 with a radio that does not have the "data" port, I usually start with the radio volume control at its midpoint (often 12 o'clock) and then adjust the setting of the RXAMP.

On 2/22/2015 10:53 AM, godfather_waggo@... [aprsisce] wrote:
 

Bob, quick question, are you speaking of the audio as in RXAMP and those settings, or the volume on the radio?


--

Bob Harris (K9UDX)
Can MOTCH Katmai Henry David Thoreau UDX Bda UD (1992-2005)
Longmeadow Bradford Torrey CD (2001-2014)
Ch Silvercreek Gossip Girl
Bath, NH


Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE

Curtis Wagner
 

Bob, quick question, are you speaking of the audio as in RXAMP and those settings, or the volume on the radio?


Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE

Curtis Wagner
 

Thank you for the reply and advice Bob!


Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE

robt.harris
 

Pseudo intelligent guess. It appears you have an audio level around 70 when there is no signal present (just unsquelched noise). When you receive a packet, the audio level goes "off scale", i..e. over 100 and only the two least significant digits show.

Try to get the audio level in the absence of any traffic down below, say, 10 - 20 and see if your packets then come in where they should be.

On 2/21/2015 7:19 PM, godfather_waggo@... [aprsisce] wrote:
 

If anyone is interesting in viewing the 4 minute video I made today of me in teraterm trying to figure out and decode packets, here is a link. Everytime a packet comes in the values drop to 20. Not sure what else I can do to get those values up. Here is the link  decodingpackets

 


--

Bob Harris (K9UDX)
Can MOTCH Katmai Henry David Thoreau UDX Bda UD (1992-2005)
Longmeadow Bradford Torrey CD (2001-2014)
Ch Silvercreek Gossip Girl
Bath, NH


Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE [1 Attachment]

Curtis Wagner
 

If anyone is interesting in viewing the 4 minute video I made today of me in teraterm trying to figure out and decode packets, here is a link. Everytime a packet comes in the values drop to 20. Not sure what else I can do to get those values up. Here is the link  decodingpackets

 


Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE [1 Attachment]

James Ewen
 

Why not watch this video and learn to correlate the sounds to seeing the packets show up on screen.

You can see the successfully decoded packets show up immediately on the screen. Right near the start, you will hear two packets that are not successfully decoded. Watch and learn from this video.


You'll never be able to decode every packet you can hear by ear. The packets need to be good a strong to be able to be decoded.

Your file sounds like it was recorded via a microphone listening in a room to the audio coming from a speaker on another device, rather than recorded directly. It sounds like there's other background audio mixed in.

With that type of recording, it's tough to know what you are actually hearing on air. Any of what I heard via your recording is probably not going to be able to be decoded by ANY APRS decoder.



James
VE6SRV

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:08 AM, godfather_waggo@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@...> wrote:
[Attachment(s) from godfather_waggo@... [aprsisce] included below]

And don't take this the wrong way, but I've attached audio of my radio set to the same frequency as my transmitter, with the transmitter on and nearby with the same frequency. If someone can tell me A. out of that, what is a packet and B. how do I know which, if any, is my packet, I'd be appreciative.



Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE [1 Attachment]

Curtis Wagner
 

I made a 4 minute video of what I'm seeing if anyone would like to view.......cannot attach here, too big.


Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE [1 Attachment]

Curtis Wagner
 

To answer Lynn's question....BTW, what do you have currently checked in the Configure / Scroller submenu options? It has "Show All" checkmarked


Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE [1 Attachment]

Curtis Wagner
 

Ok good, so those are packet signals. Now using teraterm, when they come in, the values drop to between 15-40. Adjusting rxamp and/or cdlevel doesn't raise them much but to maybe 50. Using the volume control on the radio, doesn't do much to get them to 55 at most. No offense, but I am following what people tell me. Short of getting out the camcorder I don't know what else to do. You are all helpful, and I appreciate it, but its not like I am not doing what people tell me to do....I just really don't know what else to do. When you hear those packets, that's what I've heard since the beginning, but the monitor values won't adjust to 80-90 no matter what I do.


Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE [1 Attachment]

Rob Giuliano
 

The only packet signals I heard were very early on.
   3-  4 seconds: VERY QUIET 
   8-  9 seconds
 18-19 seconds

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


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From: "godfather_waggo@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] What do these things mean APRSISCE [1 Attachment]

 
[Attachment(s) from godfather_waggo@... [aprsisce] included below]
And don't take this the wrong way, but I've attached audio of my radio set to the same frequency as my transmitter, with the transmitter on and nearby with the same frequency. If someone can tell me A. out of that, what is a packet and B. how do I know which, if any, is my packet, I'd be appreciative.



Re: What do these things mean APRSISCE

Curtis Wagner
 

And don't take this the wrong way, but I've attached audio of my radio set to the same frequency as my transmitter, with the transmitter on and nearby with the same frequency. If someone can tell me A. out of that, what is a packet and B. how do I know which, if any, is my packet, I'd be appreciative.

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