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Re: WX Icon

James Ewen
 

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:11 PM, johndvorack@yahoo.com [aprsisce]
<aprsisce@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I notice when my station transmits WX on APRS, my WX Icon is a dark blue, and others I see on the screen are light blue.

What is the difference?
I got this one, I got this one!

The light blue icon is a lighter shade of blue than the darker blue icon!

Aww man, see what working all day does? You miss out on a prime
opportunity to be able to answer the burning questions of the day!

Of course, Lynn ruins all the fun and points out the obvious answer!

James
VE6SRV


Re: receiving TCPIP station over RF

James Ewen
 

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM, kd5pck@arrl.net [aprsisce]
<aprsisce@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I sort of understand what is at the link that you sent. But my thing is that the signal is originating
from a computer only. The beacon is only sent from that computer to the internet, no RF involved
at this point. How did it get sent over RF and received on my rig in the car is what I am trying to understand.
The short answer is that there a couple different ways this could
happen. Without seeing the entire packet you heard on RF, we cannot
say for sure who moved it from IS to RF. Without seeing all the
packets for about 10 minutes before you heard the packet on RF, and/or
knowing the configuration of the possible station gating to RF, we
again can't say for sure why that happened.

One thing I can say for sure is that it didn't happen magically.
There's a station around you that is on RF and the IS stream that
under direction of some rule in the software moved the packet from the
IS stream to the RF channel. The only unknown is which rule triggered
the move.

James
VE6SRV


Re: WX Icon

johndvorack
 

Great...Thanks Robert!

73
John  KD8BIN


Re: WX Icon

Rob Giuliano
 

In APRSIS32 you need to go to
>Menu >Configure >General
Click on the Icon to change
"Table" has 3 options:
 1. Primary
 2. Alternate
 3. Overlay -> enables Overlay box to the right.

It defaults to t#1

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


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From: "johndvorack@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] WX Icon

 
Lynn......where do I find the "primary table" to change that?

John  KD8BIN



Re: receiving TCPIP station over RF

Rob Giuliano
 

I cannot remember the current starting point of this discussion.  Was the packet you received from IS-to-RF a message, or just a position report.

If it was a message:
   The answer is as simple as "someone gated from IS to RF".
   Many IGATES will gate IS-to-RF any packet address to a callsign it has
     heard "recently" on the RF channel.

However, the answer becomes more complicated if it was a position packet.
Could be:
1. Someone has an IGATE setup to GATE any signal to/from a callsign (regardless of SSID) that it recently heard. 
2. Someone (including possibly another station of you callsign) has you as a "buddy" and automatically gates your packets to RF (and you were within the "HOP" zone).

For #1:  I cannot say how to set this up or what applications might have this feature, but it would make sense.  In fact, I'd say that is a pretty interesting feature.  If I am traveling and had another station (home station) on the air, hearing packets from that station, even though I am traveling in a moving and only on RF, would mean a lot.  It tells me my station is still on the air.

For #2:  I've done this for testing.  I have one instance of APRSIS32 running on IS only, then using G with b/KB8RCO* make it send any packets with my callsign to RF, then setip a receiving station to see that it works.
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


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From: "kd5pck@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 4:40 PM
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: receiving TCPIP station over RF

 
Robert
 I sort of understand what is at the link that you sent. But my thing is that the signal is originating from a computer only. The beacon is only sent from that computer to the internet, no RF involved at this point. How did it get sent over RF and received on my rig in the car is what I am trying to understand. 


Scott
KD5PCK





Re: WX Icon

johndvorack
 

Lynn......where do I find the "primary table" to change that?

John  KD8BIN


Re: WX Icon

johndvorack
 

OK........I will take care of that...Thanks Lynn!

73

John  KD8BIN


Re: receiving TCPIP station over RF

sbd sbd
 

Some software will send beacons from tcpip to RF within a defined set of filters. APRX being one. Helpful if you have an event and some people are using phones etc

 

Steve

G6UIM

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: 21 November 2014 21:40
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] Re: receiving TCPIP station over RF

 

 

Robert

 I sort of understand what is at the link that you sent. But my thing is that the signal is originating from a computer only. The beacon is only sent from that computer to the internet, no RF involved at this point. How did it get sent over RF and received on my rig in the car is what I am trying to understand. 

 


Scott

KD5PCK

 

 


Re: WX Icon

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Never mind.  You have your symbol set to /W which is a weather station which, interestingly enough, doesn't actually supply any weather.  You need to use a /_ (underscore in the primary table) to be a WX Service which actually supplies weather and is what everyone else uses.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 11/21/2014 5:23 PM, 'Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)' kj4erj@... [aprsisce] wrote:
Can you provide specific callsign-SSIDs for "my WX" and "others"?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 11/21/2014 5:11 PM, johndvorack@... [aprsisce] wrote:

I notice when my station transmits WX on APRS, my WX Icon is a dark blue, and others I see on the screen are light blue.


What is the difference?


Thanks,


John   KD8BIN




Re: WX Icon

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Can you provide specific callsign-SSIDs for "my WX" and "others"?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 11/21/2014 5:11 PM, johndvorack@... [aprsisce] wrote:

I notice when my station transmits WX on APRS, my WX Icon is a dark blue, and others I see on the screen are light blue.


What is the difference?


Thanks,


John   KD8BIN



WX Icon

johndvorack
 

I notice when my station transmits WX on APRS, my WX Icon is a dark blue, and others I see on the screen are light blue.


What is the difference?


Thanks,


John   KD8BIN


Re: receiving TCPIP station over RF

kd5pck@...
 

Robert
 I sort of understand what is at the link that you sent. But my thing is that the signal is originating from a computer only. The beacon is only sent from that computer to the internet, no RF involved at this point. How did it get sent over RF and received on my rig in the car is what I am trying to understand. 


Scott
KD5PCK



Re: M0XER-4 Approaching Yellowknife

robt.harris
 

When I go to that link, the map is not populated.

On 11/20/2014 5:43 PM, 'Steve' steve@... [aprsisce] wrote:

http://habitat.habhub.org/mobile-tracker/?filter=B-64 will give you its complete flight so far.

Habhub is the system spacenear.us gets its info from

Steve

G6UIM


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: 20 November 2014 22:29
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: M0XER-4 Approaching Yellowknife

Is there a good site to check on its current status? When I go here, http://spacenear.us/tracker/flyb.php, my browser basically seizes up (and I've got 16 GB RAM + i7 core CPU). Probably it's using some very heavy client-side Javascript to compute a long-term history of its entire flight path. Would be nice to have a link that basically loads only a few days' worth of data and perhaps the next projected several days, for speed. I could bookmark that, and see if I have a chance of hearing it. These have a tendency to veer too far off to the east for my QTH though.

73, KD0KZE / Paul


From: "'Steve' steve@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@...>
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:52:12 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Re: M0XER-4 Approaching Yellowknife

M0XER Leo grabs the APRS and puts it into the database, he also puts the archived data from when the balloon is out of range into the data base (transmitted in the comment field on aprs

Steve

G6UIM


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...]
Sent: 20 November 2014 20:31
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: M0XER-4 Approaching Yellowknife

Actually, they're the same object. Someone has a tool out there that picks up the APRS beacons from M0XER-4 and injects the posits into the HabHub database. I have a tool that picks up HabHab object posits and injects them into the APRS-IS with the HB- prefix. If you watch them both, M0XER-4 will move and then HB-B-64 will join it a few seconds later based primarily, I believe, on my tool's polling frequency to the habitat database.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 11/20/2014 3:21 PM, D Anderson dande25974@... [aprsisce] wrote:

Looks like a race between m0xer-4 and HB-B-64 too!

Daniel


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Re: HF Path 10147.600

Bill Erhardt
 

Thanks everyone, 

I took out the path as I am just an HF Igate with no gating using a USB Signalink for HF packet. When I first approached this HF idea, it was suggested I run separate copies of APRSIS32 one for VHF and one for HF and that works just fine. I have  Kantronics Kam Plus that has the gate possibility HF > VHF but will leave it as is for now as it is working.

I am also running UISS on 145.825 and Igating ISS and NO-44 aprs traffic. I like UISS and there is a setting to beacon only when it hears the ISS or NO-44 and then stops beaconing after the last heard.  This way it does not transmit when the satellites are not in view. 

This is important as my IGATES, Weather Station, Computer, internet wireless connection, and all the equipment is on solar. In winter I approach that fine line of output vs input on the power scheme so think sunshine !!!!

I really enjoy APRS since KI0BJ Rex and I were the only two stations in Montana about 2000 !!!! I have watched it grow over years and enjoy seeing new stations show up in Montana even after all these years.  APRS Rocks and I and truly having fun learning.

A big thanks to N5DTX-8 who stops in the say howdy most mornings on HF APRS Packet.  

Thanks everyone
Bill K7MT
home
 


Re: receiving TCPIP station over RF

Rob Giuliano
 

A feature of the IGATE is to be bi-directional.
 
If you would like a quick review of this of how APRSIS32 handles this, I suggest looking at the wiki
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


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From: "kd5pck@... [aprsisce]"
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 5:46 AM
Subject: [aprsisce] receiving TCPIP station over RF

 
First of all, I do not know all that I should about APRS and how to take advantage of it to its full extent. Time and life is getting in the way of learning more. With that said...
 
I run APRSISCE on a computer at work, KD5PCK-1. This morning, I received that station on my mobile rig on the way to work. I thought that if a station was only on the internet, that it would only be displayed on the internet and not over RF. It doesn't look like it was received by another station that sent it over RF.3

I looked up everything on aprs.fi and this is what I found. How is it that this beacon was injected into RF?

Thanks in advance for forgiving my ignorance. 

Scott
KD5PCK

APRS station KD5PCK-1  - show graphs
Comment:kd5pck at gmail.com
Location:30°22.68' N 90°06.04' W - locator EM40WJ70WR - show map - static map
2.5 miles Northwest bearing 303° from Mandeville, Saint Tammany Parish, Louisiana, United States [?]
7.9 miles Southwest bearing 208° from Abita Springs, Saint Tammany Parish, Louisiana, United States
29.3 miles North bearing 357° from New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana, United States
63.0 miles East bearing 94° from Baton Rouge, East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana, United States
Last position:2014-11-21 04:20:18 CST (13m30s ago)
2014-11-21 04:20:18 CST local time at Mandeville, United States [?]
Device:KJ4ERJ: APRSIS32 version 10 (software, Windows)
Last path:KD5PCK-1>APWW10 via TCPIP*,qAC,T2FEJER
Positions stored:35
Packet rate:3047 seconds between packets on average during 39608 seconds.




Re: receiving TCPIP station over RF

Eric Bryant
 

That's normal. It goes both ways. I send messages from APRSIS32 online to my HT via RF, and to my cellphone, and from my HT (RF) back to APRSIS32 online.

Eric,
N2WVM


On Friday, November 21, 2014 5:47 AM, "kd5pck@... [aprsisce]" wrote:


 
First of all, I do not know all that I should about APRS and how to take advantage of it to its full extent. Time and life is getting in the way of learning more. With that said...
 
I run APRSISCE on a computer at work, KD5PCK-1. This morning, I received that station on my mobile rig on the way to work. I thought that if a station was only on the internet, that it would only be displayed on the internet and not over RF. It doesn't look like it was received by another station that sent it over RF.3

I looked up everything on aprs.fi and this is what I found. How is it that this beacon was injected into RF?

Thanks in advance for forgiving my ignorance. 

Scott
KD5PCK

APRS station KD5PCK-1  - show graphs
Comment:kd5pck at gmail.com
Location:30°22.68' N 90°06.04' W - locator EM40WJ70WR - show map - static map
2.5 miles Northwest bearing 303° from Mandeville, Saint Tammany Parish, Louisiana, United States [?]
7.9 miles Southwest bearing 208° from Abita Springs, Saint Tammany Parish, Louisiana, United States
29.3 miles North bearing 357° from New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana, United States
63.0 miles East bearing 94° from Baton Rouge, East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana, United States
Last position:2014-11-21 04:20:18 CST (13m30s ago)
2014-11-21 04:20:18 CST local time at Mandeville, United States [?]
Device:KJ4ERJ: APRSIS32 version 10 (software, Windows)
Last path:KD5PCK-1>APWW10 via TCPIP*,qAC,T2FEJER
Positions stored:35
Packet rate:3047 seconds between packets on average during 39608 seconds.




receiving TCPIP station over RF

kd5pck@...
 

First of all, I do not know all that I should about APRS and how to take advantage of it to its full extent. Time and life is getting in the way of learning more. With that said...

 

I run APRSISCE on a computer at work, KD5PCK-1. This morning, I received that station on my mobile rig on the way to work. I thought that if a station was only on the internet, that it would only be displayed on the internet and not over RF. It doesn't look like it was received by another station that sent it over RF.3


I looked up everything on aprs.fi and this is what I found. How is it that this beacon was injected into RF?


Thanks in advance for forgiving my ignorance. 


Scott

KD5PCK


APRS station KD5PCK-1  - show graphs
Comment:kd5pck at gmail.com
Location:30°22.68' N 90°06.04' W - locator EM40WJ70WR - show map - static map
2.5 miles Northwest bearing 303° from Mandeville, Saint Tammany Parish, Louisiana, United States [?]
7.9 miles Southwest bearing 208° from Abita Springs, Saint Tammany Parish, Louisiana, United States
29.3 miles North bearing 357° from New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana, United States
63.0 miles East bearing 94° from Baton Rouge, East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana, United States
Last position:2014-11-21 04:20:18 CST (13m30s ago)
2014-11-21 04:20:18 CST local time at Mandeville, United States [?]
Device:KJ4ERJ: APRSIS32 version 10 (software, Windows)
Last path:KD5PCK-1>APWW10 via TCPIP*,qAC,T2FEJER
Positions stored:35
Packet rate:3047 seconds between packets on average during 39608 seconds.



Re: M0XER-4 Approaching Yellowknife [1 Attachment]

James Ewen
 

Yup, made landfall over Alaska yesterday gated through Ron's I-gate. Chris' I-gate in Yellowknife was up and operational this time! 😀

Luckily Leo's payload is long lived enough to wait long enough for them to get things sorted out!  

10 laps and still going strong.

Missed Alberta completely this time, but it looks like it will wander over Buffalo to have a look at the snow.

James
VE6SRV


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VE6SRV


Re: M0XER-4 Approaching Yellowknife

Paul Bramscher <pfbram@...>
 

Thanks for the link. As an interesting meteorological aside, I see
it'll likely be floating over the part of New York that just got ~ 5-6
FEET of snow. So-called "lake effect". There are some predictions that
they'll have 8 feet before that storm ends.

Paul / KD0KZE

On 11/20/2014 4:50 PM, 'Steve' steve@daniels270.eclipse.co.uk [aprsisce]
wrote:


Forgot to say if you click the Hysplit button it will give you predicted
paths for the next few days



Steve

G6UIM



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*From:*aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com]
*Sent:* 20 November 2014 22:44
*To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* RE: [aprsisce] Re: M0XER-4 Approaching Yellowknife





http://habitat.habhub.org/mobile-tracker/?filter=B-64 will give you its
complete flight so far.

Habhub is the system spacenear.us gets its info from



Steve

G6UIM



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*From:*aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com]
*Sent:* 20 November 2014 22:29
*To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [aprsisce] Re: M0XER-4 Approaching Yellowknife





Is there a good site to check on its current status? When I go here,
http://spacenear.us/tracker/flyb.php, my browser basically seizes up
(and I've got 16 GB RAM + i7 core CPU). Probably it's using some very
heavy client-side Javascript to compute a long-term history of its
entire flight path. Would be nice to have a link that basically loads
only a few days' worth of data and perhaps the next projected several
days, for speed. I could bookmark that, and see if I have a chance of
hearing it. These have a tendency to veer too far off to the east for
my QTH though.



73, KD0KZE / Paul







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*From: *"'Steve' steve@daniels270.eclipse.co.uk [aprsisce]"
<aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
*To: *aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
*Sent: *Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:52:12 PM
*Subject: *RE: [aprsisce] Re: M0XER-4 Approaching Yellowknife





M0XER Leo grabs the APRS and puts it into the database, he also puts the
archived data from when the balloon is out of range into the data base
(transmitted in the comment field on aprs



Steve

G6UIM



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*From:*aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com]
*Sent:* 20 November 2014 20:31
*To:* aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [aprsisce] Re: M0XER-4 Approaching Yellowknife





Actually, they're the same object. Someone has a tool out there that
picks up the APRS beacons from M0XER-4 and injects the posits into the
HabHub database. I have a tool that picks up HabHab object posits and
injects them into the APRS-IS with the HB- prefix. If you watch them
both, M0XER-4 will move and then HB-B-64 will join it a few seconds
later based primarily, I believe, on my tool's polling frequency to the
habitat database.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 11/20/2014 3:21 PM, D Anderson dande25974@yahoo.com
<mailto:dande25974@yahoo.com> [aprsisce] wrote:

Looks like a race between m0xer-4 and HB-B-64 too!



Daniel








Re: HF Path 10147.600

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

You will likely get as many answers as you get responders with any question about paths. Here's my understanding:

1) Most APRS on HF requires no path whatsoever. Shorter packets rule and digipeaters are particularly unhelpful on HF, especially without the FM capture effect that assists decoding simultaneous digipeats on VHF.

2) If you DO want to use a digipeater, then the standard has been ECHO to the best of my knowledge.

3) The GATE path component is asking receivers to gate the received packet onto the local VHF APRS frequency if they are capable of that.

4) Anything after the GATE is the path requested for said VHF cross-band-repeated packet.

So ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-1 is asking any ECHO-based digipeaters to repeat the packet and any receiving station to gate the packet to their local VHF APRS frequency with a path of WIDE2-1.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/20/2014 7:00 PM, 'Bill Erhardt' k7mt@mt.net [aprsisce] wrote:
Howdy gang,

I am testing an HF Igate here in Montana and see several different paths. I
copied one echo,gate,wide2-1 and that is the one I have had on the air for
a couple three days.

I looked and look and cannot find a good source for correct HF path on APRS.
Help !!!! I hope I don't get four different answers !! Hee Hee !!

Thanks in advance.

Bill K7MT
http://www.k7mt.com



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