Re: No Tx with APRSIS & FT7800
Lynn Deffenbaugh
On 1/28/2014 9:19 PM, James Ewen wrote:
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 6:11 PM, <eckerpw@...> wrote:Based on that error log, it appears that there is nothing coming in the port. Have you seen the T2 actually talk to the PC on COM4 at 9600 baud? And see data coming in?Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T20:51:33.895 Opening COM4:9600,N,8,1 Where are the lines that have "a bunch of entries starting with KISS:Having something else connected will prevent the port from opening. This port opens, sits there, and then errros out 152 seconds (2.5 minutes) later. There doesn't seem to be any data coming in. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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Re: No Tx with APRSIS & FT7800
James Ewen
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 6:11 PM, <eckerpw@...> wrote:
James - the T2 is in KISS mode; here is the error log: WinMain:2014-01-28T20:51:33.895 Starting Port(FT7800) I can provide whatever else might be helpfulWhere are the lines that have "a bunch of entries starting with KISS: not long enough and MISSING 0" The above error is looking like you have something attached to com4 already. APRSISCE/32 is not able to open the com port because it is already opened by another program. Lynn will know exactly what the errors thrown mean, but it sure looks like something else already has the com port. Close whatever else you have running attached to the com port and try again. -- James VE6SRV
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Re: GPS units
sbd sbd
Those wanting to try GPSD or even my NTP server can do, the IP address is 91.84.215.75 it’s a static address. Obviously only for testing as GPSD will give my location, and you would be better of using a proper time server. My NTP system is really to try and get a reasonable time on a non internet connected system, such as Field day. If you are attaching a GPS to a pi you might as well do as much as possible with it.
As you can see PPS jitter is good GPS time data not so good. Obviously a bit of work to do. For comparison I am linked to a UK ntp pool hence the other info. The GPS is not designed for time reference but does have a PPS output.
Lynn is you want to connect to GPSD for testing please do it should be running 24/7 APRSIS32 uses it just fine Steve Daniels Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM Torbay Freecycle Owner http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com
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aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Steve Daniels
I need to test in a better way to be absolutely sure.
And I will port
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From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Gary Sanders Sent: 27 January 2014 17:11 To: aprsisce@... Subject: Re: [aprsisce] GPS units Don't know if you've seen this: http://www.talkunafraid.co.uk/2012/12/the-ntpi-accurate-time-with-a-raspberr y-pi-and-venus638flpx/ I did similar, and never could tame the thing down - the jitter was really bad - to the point that it really wasn't usable. I was driving the PPS with the PPS output from a Trimble Thunderbolt GPSDO, so I know the PPS was good. I understand that the RasPi occasionally strips out some Oscillator clock pulses for some reason, and I suspect that may be the cause. More later - have to go to an appointment. Gary Sanders W0BY On 1/27/2014 6:24 AM, Steve Daniels wrote: > > > Well I got asked to do data modes for the Olympics in Weymouth, to find > the laptop time was out enough that JT-65 did not work. > > Using an adafruit breakout board GPS, that will run from 5V or 3.3V. > Enable input and fix output. Handy for balloons. > > Cold starts very quickly. To the point that I have not sorted the > battery backup. > > Have had it supplying APRSIS32 via GPSD with location. And time via the > normal NMEA sentences. > > Got it running in user mode for NTP time easily, Which to be honest is > good enough. > > But attempting to get the more accurate kernel mode working, which is > more of a problem. On my second 10 hour long compile!! > > When it's working will torrent an image for everyone, as I will with an > added TNC-Pi setup using XASTIR. > > I am hoping we can get APRSISMO working on the Pi. Currently there is a > graphics driver issue that stops it running. To do with 3D hardware > acceleration if I recall. > > Steve Daniels ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links
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Re: No Tx with APRSIS & FT7800
eckerpw@...
James - the T2 is in KISS mode; here is the error log: WinMain:2014-01-28T20:51:33.895 Starting Port(FT7800) Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T20:51:33.895 CpReader Running on COM4:9600,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds) Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T20:51:33.895 Opening COM4:9600,N,8,1 Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T20:51:33.895 Opening COM4 with 4 Args Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T20:51:33.896 Opened COM4:9600,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.739 Status -1 Error 1 At 491 in c:\compass\code\aprs\aprsisce\cprtns.c Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.740 Status -1 Error 0 At 529 in c:\compass\code\aprs\aprsisce\cprtns.c Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.740 Error Reading Port, CpReadBytesWithTimeout FAILED! Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.740 Error Reading Port, PortReadCommPort FAILED! Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.740 Terminating after 152703 msec vs 0 Quiet Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.740 Closing COM4:9600,N,8,1 Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.782 Restarting Reader... Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.782 CpReader Running on COM4:9600,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds) Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.782 Opening COM4:9600,N,8,1 Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.782 Opening COM4 with 4 Args Port(FT7800):2014-01-28T21:55:14.783 Opened COM4:9600,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds I can provide whatever else might be helpful 73 Paul
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Re: No Tx with APRSIS & FT7800
James Ewen
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 1:37 PM, <eckerpw@...> wrote:
- Did a search through the archives and nothing jumped out at me to help.If you searched the mailing list archives for the terms you see in the log, you'd find applicable advice. Put the T2 in KISS mode and it will most likely work. Since you didn't provide enough information about the error in the log, I am guessing that is what the error is. It should look something like this: From log: Port(OT3m):2013-06-17T10:26:12.739 KISS:Missing Leading C0[94]:<00 00 98 E6 18 1E>``<1E 1E E6 06 06>x<00 18 06 E6 00 1E 00 F8 FE F8 E6 18>x<E0 98 E0 18 06 86 E0 86 E6 18>x<E0 98 E0>`<06 E6 E0 E6 00 00 00 E6>f<86 98 E0 9E 06 18 E6 9E E6 86 00 86>``<18>ff<98 06 06>x<1E 06 98 9E 18 98>f<E0 98 F8 98 9E 98 E6 86 06 98>f`<E6 80 00> ----------------------- -- James VE6SRV
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No Tx with APRSIS & FT7800
eckerpw@...
In the past I have been using APRSIS on my win 7 64 bit PC, an Argent T2 and an FT7800. This lash up ran fine for about two years or so. Then recently had a PC Hard Drive crash and I am having to start all over re-installing and configuring programs; and I can’t get APRSIS to transmit. I did the setup so long ago, I honestly don’t remember how I got it all to work. So I need some help from anyone that has a somewhat similar setup. - Again PC is win 7 64 bit, 2.4 ghz processor, 4 gb ram and solid state hard drive. - T2 is connected to the FT7800 via a DIN plug; TNC is connected to PC via a serial cable - PC seems to be communicating with FT7800 via OTwincfg software. - I configured a new port for the ft7800. I am getting APRSIS-OK and FT7800 OK in the window just above the scroller. - Program is displaying stations received via Rf and the green rx light on the T2 is flashing. - I did review the two G4ILO videos on re-installing the program and getting it to communicate with your radio. I have looked thru the Wiki for applicable sections to help me, went thru the steps in “Why won’t APRSIS /32 Transmist” in the wiki. All is fine there. - Did a search through the archives and nothing jumped out at me to help. I enabled logging on the FT7800 port but am not bright enough to interpret it, there are a bunch of entries starting with KISS: not long enough and MISSING 0
So would like to hook up with someone who has a similar setup and we could compare notes on configuration.
Thanks & 73 Paul Kc2nyu
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Re: GPS units
sbd sbd
I need to test in a better way to be absolutely sure. And I will port
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forward my router so people can see for themselves. My current setup provides GPS location to any device or software capable of receiving location and time data from a GPSD system. APRSIS32 is capable of that. NTP time for access from any device. Using the PPS in kernel mode rather than user mode. Also a samba install to allow monitoring from a windows pc. And SNMP for remote monitoring as this is intended as a headless system. Currently showing a bit of jitter on the GPS time as expected, but zero jitter on the PPS. I can create an image of the SD card. And torrent if people are interested. Steve Daniels Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM Torbay Freecycle Owner http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com
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From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Gary Sanders Sent: 27 January 2014 17:11 To: aprsisce@... Subject: Re: [aprsisce] GPS units Don't know if you've seen this: http://www.talkunafraid.co.uk/2012/12/the-ntpi-accurate-time-with-a-raspberr y-pi-and-venus638flpx/ I did similar, and never could tame the thing down - the jitter was really bad - to the point that it really wasn't usable. I was driving the PPS with the PPS output from a Trimble Thunderbolt GPSDO, so I know the PPS was good. I understand that the RasPi occasionally strips out some Oscillator clock pulses for some reason, and I suspect that may be the cause. More later - have to go to an appointment. Gary Sanders W0BY On 1/27/2014 6:24 AM, Steve Daniels wrote:
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Re: Messages
johndvorack
Thanks Jim...I will tinker with it and see what I get.. John KD8BIN
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Re: GPS units
Gary Sanders
Don't know if you've seen this:
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http://www.talkunafraid.co.uk/2012/12/the-ntpi-accurate-time-with-a-raspberry-pi-and-venus638flpx/ I did similar, and never could tame the thing down - the jitter was really bad - to the point that it really wasn't usable. I was driving the PPS with the PPS output from a Trimble Thunderbolt GPSDO, so I know the PPS was good. I understand that the RasPi occasionally strips out some Oscillator clock pulses for some reason, and I suspect that may be the cause. More later - have to go to an appointment. Gary Sanders W0BY
On 1/27/2014 6:24 AM, Steve Daniels wrote:
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Re: GPS units
Dave Aitch OCN <daveocn@...>
Please replace the word "Weymouth" with the words "Island & Royal Manor of Portland". I thank you. Dave G1OCN.
On 27 January 2014 11:24, Steve Daniels <steve@...> wrote:
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Re: GPS units
sbd sbd
Well I got asked to do data modes for the Olympics in Weymouth, to find the laptop time was out enough that JT-65 did not work.
Using an adafruit breakout board GPS, that will run from 5V or 3.3V. Enable input and fix output. Handy for balloons. Cold starts very quickly. To the point that I have not sorted the battery backup.
Have had it supplying APRSIS32 via GPSD with location. And time via the normal NMEA sentences. Got it running in user mode for NTP time easily, Which to be honest is good enough. But attempting to get the more accurate kernel mode working, which is more of a problem. On my second 10 hour long compile!!
When it’s working will torrent an image for everyone, as I will with an added TNC-Pi setup using XASTIR.
I am hoping we can get APRSISMO working on the Pi. Currently there is a graphics driver issue that stops it running. To do with 3D hardware acceleration if I recall.
Steve Daniels Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM Torbay Freecycle Owner http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com
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aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano
I
have used several of the SparkFun GPS modules.
What a combo: GPS data and Time standard from the same device! Could be useful!
Robert Giuliano
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From: Steve Daniels
To: aprsisce@...
Well my experience With the adafruit breakout GPS module has been good. Took it a couple of minutes from cold start, to work out where it was, that from new. It does much the same after a power cycle, I have no battery attached to it Will run from 3.3 or 5V serial output is 3.3V so you might need to use an interface if using TTL levels.
Obviously I am using it for my RPI projects, but it’s good to feed other things with a bit of interface work.
Steve Daniels Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM Torbay Freecycle Owner APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/
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Re: Messages
James Ewen
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 10:20 PM, <johndvorack@...> wrote:
Thanks for helping me get the program going. Only 1 issue....I was able to sendIt looks like you are sending messages. You do understand that only specific stations will respond to specific queries... W8JES is probably running UI-InfoKiosk, and add on to UI-View that responds to specific queries sent to the station by providing information back. APRSISCE/32 has a similar capability called QRU (Have you anything for me?) http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:qru Only APRSISCE/32 stations with QRU information configured by the operator will provide QRU information back. There are some generic queries that some APRS programs respond to... not all programs support the same responses though. Dumb trackers won't respond to anything, and maybe some of the integrated APRS radios will respond to some as well. http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:queries BTW, the queries have to be sent perfectly... 2014-01-25 17:52:55 MST: KD8BIN>W8JES: \?INFO 2014-01-25 17:54:42 MST: W8JES>KD8BIN: Hello try ?info or ?sfinfo 2014-01-25 18:01:52 MST: KD8BIN>W8JES: ?info 2014-01-25 18:01:53 MST: W8JES>KD8BIN: ?2MFREQ ?440FREQ ?AIRPORT ?BUSTOP ?CINEMA 2014-01-25 18:03:35 MST: KD8BIN>W8JES: ?cinema 2014-01-25 18:03:36 MST: W8JES>KD8BIN: Carmike12 Your first query \?INFO was no good... the slash was not supposed to be there. After that though, you got what you wanted. 2014-01-26 18:50:23 MST: KD8BIN>W8JES: /?SFINFO 2014-01-26 18:55:01 MST: KD8BIN>W8JES: /?SFINFO 2014-01-26 18:55:32 MST: KD8BIN>W8HHF: /h 2014-01-26 18:56:58 MST: KD8BIN>W8HHF: /h 2014-01-26 18:57:39 MST: KD8BIN>W8HHF: /h 2014-01-26 18:58:14 MST: KD8BIN>W8HHF: /h 2014-01-26 18:58:55 MST: KD8BIN>W8HHF: /h 2014-01-26 19:00:39 MST: KD8BIN>W8JES: /h 2014-01-26 19:01:36 MST: KD8BIN>W8JES: /h 2014-01-26 19:02:21 MST: KD8BIN>W8JES: /h 2014-01-26 19:02:54 MST: KD8BIN>W8JES: /h 2014-01-26 19:03:25 MST: KD8BIN>W8JES: /h /?SFINFO isn't going to work for W8JES, we know that from before... get rid of the slash. W8HHF hasn't been on the air for over 200 days, so you're not going to get a response from that station. /h is not a valid query for W8JES, so there's going to be no response to that message either. -- James VE6SRV
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Messages
johndvorack
Thanks for helping me get the program going. Only 1 issue....I was able to send
messages yesterday, but now when my TNC transmits a message to another station, I do not receive any message back for info...like type ?LOCAL PD...?HOSPITAL...... I did not change anything....Any ideas what I may have missed? My messages box is checked in my ports setup.... Thanks, John KD8BIN
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Re: GPS units
Rob Giuliano
I have used several of the SparkFun GPS modules.
None for Timer Service, but plan on possibly doing that soon. What a combo: GPS data and Time standard from the same device!
Could be useful!
Robert Giuliano
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From: Steve Daniels
To: aprsisce@... Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 9:20 PM Subject: [aprsisce] GPS units Well my experience With the adafruit breakout GPS module has been good. Took it a couple of minutes from cold start, to work out where it was, that from new.
It does much the same after a power cycle, I have no battery attached to it
Will run from 3.3 or 5V serial output is 3.3V so you might need to use an interface if using TTL levels.
Obviously I am using it for my RPI projects, but it’s good to feed other things with a bit of interface work.
Steve Daniels
Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM
Torbay Freecycle Owner
APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/
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Re: Help with Win 7 instalation
Lynn Deffenbaugh
This is not the group to discuss the (de)merits of uSoft's operating
system design decision. Greg was just stating the facts as they
relate to APRSISCE/32.
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Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 1/25/2014 9:26 PM, Tony VE6MVP
wrote:
At 06:00 PM 2014-01-25, Greg Depew wrote:
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Re: Help with Win 7 instalation
Tony VE6MVP
At 06:00 PM 2014-01-25, Greg Depew wrote:
>Have you unzipped the file to somewhere other than under program >files? Win 7/8 doesn't like stuff installed under there. That last sentence is wrong. Windows 7 and 8 quite like software being installed in Program Files. That is the proper location for software. The problem is that much amateur radio software does not like being installed there because the authors insist on putting all the settings files in the same folder as the software or subfolders. This is now DOS software behaved by default. This is also directly against the Microsoft standards which have been present since Windows NT 4.0 if not earlier. The various settings files and downloadable files such as the mapping tiles should be placed in the users Applications Data folder. Now what happened in Windows 7 is that Microsoft has been tightening up how things work. Tony (software programmer)
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Re: Help with Win 7 instalation
sbd sbd
Maybe an update to the wiki is in order. Put the file outside the program
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files folder. And Make sure you uncompressed the file. As Greg says The windows protection system is more of a pain than a help. It does not stop viri but makes it a pain for users installing non approved by Microsoft developers (which costs) Steve Daniels Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM Torbay Freecycle Owner http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com
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From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Greg Depew Sent: 26 January 2014 01:00 To: aprsisce@... Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Help with Win 7 instalation Have you unzipped the file to somewhere other than under program files? Win 7/8 doesn't like stuff installed under there. And if you try to run it from the zip file it will not work correctly. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: ssgeroh@... Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 00:56:14 To: <aprsisce@...> Subject: [aprsisce] Help with Win 7 instalation I installed aprisce on my Dell NetBook with Win 7 but when I try to run it, the little screen where you put in your callsign, etc comes up. When I press the button to run all it does is flash and freeze the screen. I have to use ctrl-alt-delete to do anything else. Any ideas? Somebody told me to use ubungtu but with a little ADD and after having a stroke I don't do well programing & stuff reguiring a lot of short-term memory. Being a senior doesing help much either even tho i've done electronics all my adult life. Oh yeah, add in tremors which cause me to add extra letters. So basically, i'm asking for a windows based solution. I was going to use my Vista laptop which it runs great on in the car until the backlight went out. 73, John N4SME ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links
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Re: Help with Win 7 instalation
Lynn Deffenbaugh
Watch the introductory video and follow the instructions at:
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http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/initial-startup Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 1/25/2014 8:00 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
Have you unzipped the file to somewhere other than under program files? Win 7/8 doesn't like stuff installed under there. And if you try to run it from the zip file it will not work correctly.
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Re: Need Help
Lynn Deffenbaugh
Steve's got it. Check Configure / Ports / 's
checkboxes.
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Also, for the first set of retries, APRSISCE/32 will only send out via RF if the message destination station has been recently heard on RF. The second set of retries goes out all suitably-enabled ports. You can check the Transmit and Port(YourPortName) trace logs (enable them first) to see what's actually going out where. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 1/25/2014 7:41 PM, Steve Daniels
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Re: Need Help
James Ewen
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Steve Daniels
<steve@...> wrote: Am thinking maybe on RF port setup. Beacon ticked but not messages?That was it... I forget about those switches! -- James VE6SRV
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