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Chat colors Fixed? - Dev 2013/10/28 13:06

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

There's a new Dev release that hopefully fixes the Chat colors. The condition I found (thanks to KC2ANT) required all of the following to be true:

1) Transmitting messages on RF only

2) Hearing a digipeat of your own outbound message

3) Eavesdropping some category (typically RF) of messages to pick it up.

4) Not getting an ack triggering a retry after 2+3

In this case, the received copy of the transmitted message was being treated as an acknowledged message even though it was just transmitted. This marked the first entry in the chat as "done". When the same line was retransmitted, it was not allowed to merge with the "done" entry so it created a brand new entry causing the visual duplication in the chat window.

If anyone out there had been suffering from the Chat window duplicate message issue, please give this new version a similar test to help me know if I've fixed it. If you still get a duplicate, please e-mail me the relevant APRSIS32*.LOG file(s) and a screen shot of your widened (to see the *n hh:mm:ss piece) chat showing the duplicates.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Chat Color Debug - Dev 2013/10/28 07:15

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

There's a new Dev version out that includes some Chat Trace Log output that will hopefully assist in figuring out why some chat messages are duplicating themselves instead of colorizing properly.

Please make sure you have Enables / Logging / File Enabled checked.

If you see any chat window with line duplication (that you know was only entered once by the originator), please widen the chat window to reveal the (*N hh:mm:ss) information at the right side, screen capture, and e-mail both the screen capture and your APRSIS32*.LOG files to KJ4ERJ@arrl.net.

I need to get this duplication put to bed and then (hopefully) get this version into a general release before I open up the next can of worms.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Re: What did I break? Dev

Greg Depew
 

Ok that got it. I have to be zoom 14 or higher. I think it is different in the current release that you don't have to be zoomed in so far and I was used to that.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:33:26
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] What did I break? Dev


Try zooming in a lot further or disable the GPS if you have it enabled.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/27/2013 8:35 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
I confirm I have beacon after transmit checked on purpose, however after I make my first beacon I can no longer change my position neither with drag and tx or right click move me here.
  
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:30:51
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] What did I break? Dev

   
  
  
  
  
You will only be asked about moving ME if you're zoomed in really close.
  
   As for the no beacon at start up, I suspect you have Configure / Beacon / After Transmit checked.  From http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/menu:configure-beacon
  
   After Transmit - In a semi-mobile (not fixed) GPS-less installation, it may be desirable to not transmit a position beacon on initial startup until the last known position can be confirmed and possibly corrected. If this option is checked, APRSISCE/32 will not transmit a position beacon until the Transmit menu option has been manually activated. Given that the Transmit option allows the user to move "ME" to the center of the screen, this allows the actual current position to be verified and/or changed before any position beacons are sent.
   Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
  
  
  
   On 10/27/2013 8:21 PM, Greg Depew wrote:



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Re: What did I break? Dev

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Try zooming in a lot further or disable the GPS if you have it enabled.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/27/2013 8:35 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
I confirm I have beacon after transmit checked on purpose, however after I make my first beacon I can no longer change my position neither with drag and tx or right click move me here.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:30:51
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] What did I break? Dev

You will only be asked about moving ME if you're zoomed in really close.
As for the no beacon at start up, I suspect you have Configure / Beacon / After Transmit checked. From http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/menu:configure-beacon
After Transmit - In a semi-mobile (not fixed) GPS-less installation, it may be desirable to not transmit a position beacon on initial startup until the last known position can be confirmed and possibly corrected. If this option is checked, APRSISCE/32 will not transmit a position beacon until the Transmit menu option has been manually activated. Given that the Transmit option allows the user to move "ME" to the center of the screen, this allows the actual current position to be verified and/or changed before any position beacons are sent.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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Re: What did I break? Dev

Greg Depew
 

I confirm I have beacon after transmit checked on purpose, however after I make my first beacon I can no longer change my position neither with drag and tx or right click move me here.

Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:30:51
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] What did I break? Dev

 




You will only be asked about moving ME if you're zoomed in really close.

As for the no beacon at start up, I suspect you have Configure / Beacon / After Transmit checked.  From http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/menu:configure-beacon

After Transmit - In a semi-mobile (not fixed) GPS-less installation, it may be desirable to not transmit a position beacon on initial startup until the last known position can be confirmed and possibly corrected. If this option is checked, APRSISCE/32 will not transmit a position beacon until the Transmit menu option has been manually activated. Given that the Transmit option allows the user to move "ME" to the center of the screen, this allows the actual current position to be verified and/or changed before any position beacons are sent.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 10/27/2013 8:21 PM, Greg Depew wrote:


Re: What did I break? Dev

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

You will only be asked about moving ME if you're zoomed in really close.

As for the no beacon at start up, I suspect you have Configure / Beacon / After Transmit checked. From http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/menu:configure-beacon

After Transmit- In a semi-mobile (not fixed) GPS-less installation, it may be desirable to not transmit a position beacon on initial startup until the last known position can be confirmed and possibly corrected. If this option is checked, APRSISCE/32 will not transmit a position beacon until the Transmit menu option has been manually activated. Given that the Transmit option allows the user to move "ME" to the center of the screen, this allows the actual current position to be verified and/or changed before any position beacons are sent.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



On 10/27/2013 8:21 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
Ok I can't figure out what I did, but I changed one of my instances to the dev version and deleted a few of my status comments in the xml with the program closed and now after bringing the program up I have the first beacon as suspended with the menu option, after I pick my first beacon I can't change my position. I can center on a different station and when I hit tx it doesn't ask me if I would like to move to center. And the option to move me here in the right click menu is greyed out. What did I break?? And can I get it back without a complete delete of the xml? Thanks
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What did I break? Dev

Greg Depew
 

Ok I can't figure out what I did, but I changed one of my instances to the dev version and deleted a few of my status comments in the xml with the program closed and now after bringing the program up I have the first beacon as suspended with the menu option, after I pick my first beacon I can't change my position. I can center on a different station and when I hit tx it doesn't ask me if I would like to move to center. And the option to move me here in the right click menu is greyed out. What did I break?? And can I get it back without a complete delete of the xml? Thanks
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


New QRG for Net104

G0JXN Jim
 

Hi Guys

 

Net104, the 20m RF only APRS Net, has QSYd in response to requests to improve access to the QRG. For details follow the News Flash directions in the opening page of www.net104.org.uk .

 

73

 

Jim, G0JXN/MB7UXN


OT British Amateur Satellite to Launch soon

sbd sbd
 

Yes it’s off topic

A British Amateur satellite is to launch soon. It’s primarily an educational satellite, the idea being teachers can use it in class.

So if you have any contacts in a school or college, it might be good to get them involved. And possibly get some people interested in Ham Radio.

It will mode switch to an amateur transponder, this will be triggered by whether it is sunlit or not. The thought being schools/colleges etc generally only open during daylight hours.

More info here

http://funcube.org.uk/

 

 

Steve Daniels

Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle  Owner

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

 

 


Maps not working (was: D7 support)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Talk to me about your map problem. What are you seeing or not seeing?

If you enable the OSM trace log, does it have anything useful in it?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 10/21/2013 4:14 PM, Rob Halcro wrote:
TKS Miguel , was wondering why it would not play !
Now if only I could get the maps to work !


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Yes, APRSISCE/32 supports the D7. Configure a KISS (not Simply(KISS)) port in APRSISCE/32 and make sure that the D7 is in Packet (not APRS) mode before you start APRSISCE/32 or enable the port. If you cycle power on the D7, you'll need to put it back in Packet mode and Disable / Re-Enable the APRSISCE/32 port. This is because the D7 is incapable of sticking in KISS mode across a power cycle.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ -Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/21/2013 1:55 PM, Miguel Angel wrote:
Im Miguel my callsign is CX1RK
one question the APRSIS32 is compatible with kenwood thd7 ?

many thanks

Miguel.




Re: D7 support (was: hello)

Rob Halcro
 

TKS Miguel , was wondering why it would not play !
Now if only I could get the maps to work !


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:
 

Yes, APRSISCE/32 supports the D7.  Configure a KISS (not Simply(KISS)) port in APRSISCE/32 and make sure that the D7 is in Packet (not APRS) mode before you start APRSISCE/32 or enable the port.  If you cycle power on the D7, you'll need to put it back in Packet mode and Disable / Re-Enable the APRSISCE/32 port.  This is because the D7 is incapable of sticking in KISS mode across a power cycle.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ -Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/21/2013 1:55 PM, Miguel Angel wrote:
I´m Miguel my callsign is CX1RK
one question the APRSIS32 is compatible with kenwood thd7 ?

many thanks

Miguel.



D7 support (was: hello)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Yes, APRSISCE/32 supports the D7.  Configure a KISS (not Simply(KISS)) port in APRSISCE/32 and make sure that the D7 is in Packet (not APRS) mode before you start APRSISCE/32 or enable the port.  If you cycle power on the D7, you'll need to put it back in Packet mode and Disable / Re-Enable the APRSISCE/32 port.  This is because the D7 is incapable of sticking in KISS mode across a power cycle.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ -Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/21/2013 1:55 PM, Miguel Angel wrote:
I´m Miguel my callsign is CX1RK
one question the APRSIS32 is compatible with kenwood thd7 ?

many thanks

Miguel.


aprsis32cafe

sbd sbd
 

Just a reminder we have the aprsis32cafe group for those of you who would like to talk to other APRSISCE/32 users about more general things

 

Steve Daniels

Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle  Owner

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

 

 


Re: CCW Digi Tracker the Sequel

sbd sbd
 

Just to announce that Chris G4HYG of Cross Country Wireless has tested the WIKI page. And confirms that the  CCW Digi Tracker and APRSISCE/32 are fully working together including messaging.

Currently you need to use the development version of APRSISCE/32. How to get the system working is described on the following link

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/en-ccw-tracker

 

 

Steve Daniels

Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle  Owner

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Steve Daniels
Sent: 11 October 2013 20:59
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] CCW Digi Tracker the Sequel

 

 

After a bit of research I believe that APRSISCE32 and CCW Digi Tracker can work together.

A page has been added to the WIKI http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/en-ccw-tracker

If someone could follow that page and test that the instructions work and report back that would be good.

Check that messaging works please as well as other expected functions

 

If confirmed that the instructions work I will link the page into the rest of the WIKI

I don’t have a CCW Digi Tracker to test

 

Of course APRSISCE/32 will work with APRS Messenger and I will write a page about that shortly.

 

Steve Daniels

Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle  Owner

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Re: Path lines

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

e/ is the entry filter and selects packets based on their point of entry to the APRS-IS.

If you want to get all packets for the balloon, you'd use b/<balloon-SSID>.

But the Control-G doesn't affect the path lines, it only shows you the packets being received by the instance within which you do it. And it doesn't circumvent the APRS-IS dupe filter either. It's just a way to show whether or not your -15 instance is receiving any packets gated by -5 to know whether or not path lines should appear.

And the Control-G doesn't extend your APRS-IS filter, but further filters the feed into the Filter Test trace log. If the balloon is outside your range and isn't forced by any other filter term, then you won't get the packets and won't see the packets.

Because HABs can be pretty far away, you might want to add e/KB3KBR-5 to -15's Configure / General / Add Filter to ensure that you get all packets gated by -5 from the APRS-IS. This will pass the packets (but only those first gated by -5) to you regardless of whether or not they match any of your other filters.

You know, remote access to the machine on which -5 is running is still a whole lot more reliable for seeing all of the paths for packets received by that instance!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/17/2013 3:40 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
Ok. I will do that! Now all I need is another balloon! I wonder if I do a control-g and enter a e/(balloon callsign) if that will show every path line as well?

Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 19:34:10
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines


Another interesting feature of the APRS-IS is that not all connected
clients will see the same packet if it is gated from multiple points
near simultaneously. This is due to the distributed nature of the
APRS-IS dupe filter and the way packets are propagated through the
network. So, even if aprs.fi showed a few packets gated by -5, that
doesn't mean that -15 would have seen the same gate information on the
same packet. This is especially true of HABs as they are concurrently
hitting numerous IGates with every single packet. About the only time
you see a digipeated HAB packet on the APRS-IS is when the packet lives
long enough to be delivered 30 seconds later than the first copy of the
packet. This is exacerbated by KPC-3+ IGates running in KISS mode.

If you have a chance to do this again, do a Control-G on -15 and enter a
filter of e/KB3KBR-5. The resulting filter test window will show all
packets that end with qAR,KB3KBR-5 delivered via the APRS-IS each of
which should be reflected in the APRSISCE/32 path display provided
you've got those settings all done correctly.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/17/2013 3:25 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
No -5 is a separate igate about 10 mi away from 1 and 15 running XP. 1 and 15 are on the same computer running win7. 13 is on my win8 machine. 1, 15, and 13 all connect to the same agw on the win7 machine. 5 was receiving directly and was first a couple of times to get it to the IS as per APRS.FI. 1,15 and 13 only heard it direct a few times and only 13 gated it. And the paths of both the balloon and 5 did not show between the two.
Hope that clears things abit.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:39:11
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines


Ah, NOW I think I get what was going on. Let's see if I have this right:

-5 was receiving the balloon directly via RF and gating to the APRS-IS

-15 was also receiving the balloon on the same radio (thanks to AGW),
but was also receiving an APRS-IS feed

-15 didn't show any paths between the balloon and -5. This is to be
expected as -15 only knows what -5 is receiving via the APRS-IS. And if
-5 wasn't the first station to gate any of the packets, then no paths
would show.

If you want -15 to show RF paths for -5 without the APRS-IS dupe filter
messing you up, then you need to set up a Local Server port on -5 and
connect to it from -15. That way -15 will see everything that -5 sees
from RF with the appropriate ,qAR construct because the Local Server
function in APRSISCE/32 doesn't do any dupe filtering.

Since -15 is connected to the same radio as -5, it'd be far easier just
to look at the paths from the balloon to the local -15 since they'll
reflect the same paths as seen by -5 on its own local screen.

This is yet another instance where you cannot use the APRS-IS to
evaluate what's happening in the RF world.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 10/17/2013 2:32 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
-1 and 15 are on the same computer, and all 3 share the same radio. I'm in an rf hole so I can't really hear anything. The path lines in question are from looking at -15 mutitracking -5 which at this time is a rx only igate at my dads. I confirmed by ?dx and ?aprsh that it was indeed hearing the balloon. -15 was not showing the path lines between -5 and the balloon.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:53:40
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines



If I read what you are saying correctly, you are looking at a TCP/IP feed for RF path lines?
-1 RF radio
-13 RF radio - same physical radio
-15 server - no RF, but full feed
"... I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither ..."
Or are you trying to see "Tracks" from station movements?
My instance is configured to draw a line connecting the TX station with my station through DIGI's - indicating the "PATH" the packet took. I have not seen such LINES on an IS only feed.
MENU >Screen >PATH >RFONLY
This seems to take precedence and turns OFF any other option
[like MENU >Screen >PATH >Netwrok(LINKS)]
Any instance I have running (including Multitracks) will show TRACKS that are lines connecting multiple points received.
I assume you are using the same terminology, but I would check the note about precedence of RFONLY. That could be set???
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


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From: Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@hotmail.com>
To: "aprsisce@yahoogroups.com" <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Fw: [aprsisce] Path lines

Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comDate: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:43:18 To: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)<kj4erj@arrl.net>Reply-To: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comSubject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesI have only one radio at my current residence and run my home station -1 that is my digi and qru server, and I also run -15 on the same machine which is my world feed. -13 is on a different computer and is networked to the same radio.&nbsp; I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither one was showing up on a multitrack of -5 or the balloon.
I did remote login on teamviewer to -5 and it did show the balloon as being heard. Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:23:18 To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesWhy do you have three IGates running against (I suspect) a single agw instance?&nbsp; That's got to muddy the waters, especially since you didn't say which station you're trying to look a the paths on.Is what I see from here.&nbsp; What Times option do you have selected? The shot above is with Times of Long or 30 minutes.Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32On
10/16/2013 6:59 PM, Greg Depew wrote:> Lynn and group, I have a question about path lines. Right now the balloon ATHER4-1 is up and is being copied directly by my rx only igate KB3KBR-5, but both the path lines in my full feed -15 do not show in either the multi tracks of the balloon or my igate nor in the main window. I have the times set to all and everything but rf only checked. Am I missing something? Thanks.> Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry>>>> ------------------------------------>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:&nbsp; &nbsp; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce/&;amp;lt;*&amp;amp;gt; Your email settings:&nbsp; &nbsp; Individual Email |
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Re: Path lines

Greg Depew
 

Ok. I will do that! Now all I need is another balloon! I wonder if I do a control-g and enter a e/(balloon callsign) if that will show every path line as well?

Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 19:34:10
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines


Another interesting feature of the APRS-IS is that not all connected
clients will see the same packet if it is gated from multiple points
near simultaneously.  This is due to the distributed nature of the
APRS-IS dupe filter and the way packets are propagated through the
network.  So, even if aprs.fi showed a few packets gated by -5, that
doesn't mean that -15 would have seen the same gate information on the
same packet. This is especially true of HABs as they are concurrently
hitting numerous IGates with every single packet.  About the only time
you see a digipeated HAB packet on the APRS-IS is when the packet lives
long enough to be delivered 30 seconds later than the first copy of the
packet.  This is exacerbated by KPC-3+ IGates running in KISS mode.

If you have a chance to do this again, do a Control-G on -15 and enter a
filter of e/KB3KBR-5.  The resulting filter test window will show all
packets that end with qAR,KB3KBR-5 delivered via the APRS-IS each of
which should be reflected in the APRSISCE/32 path display provided
you've got those settings all done correctly.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/17/2013 3:25 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
No -5 is a separate igate about 10 mi away from 1 and 15 running XP. 1 and 15 are on the same computer running win7. 13 is on my win8 machine. 1, 15, and 13 all connect to the same agw on the win7 machine. 5 was receiving directly and was first a couple of times to get it to the IS as per APRS.FI. 1,15 and 13 only heard it direct a few times and only 13 gated it. And the paths of both the balloon and 5 did not show between the two.
Hope that clears things abit.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:39:11
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines


Ah, NOW I think I get what was going on.  Let's see if I have this right:

-5 was receiving the balloon directly via RF and gating to the APRS-IS

-15 was also receiving the balloon on the same radio (thanks to AGW),
but was also receiving an APRS-IS feed

-15 didn't show any paths between the balloon and -5.  This is to be
expected as -15 only knows what -5 is receiving via the APRS-IS.  And if
-5 wasn't the first station to gate any of the packets, then no paths
would show.

If you want -15 to show RF paths for -5 without the APRS-IS dupe filter
messing you up, then you need to set up a Local Server port on -5 and
connect to it from -15.  That way -15 will see everything that -5 sees
from RF with the appropriate ,qAR construct because the Local Server
function in APRSISCE/32 doesn't do any dupe filtering.

Since -15 is connected to the same radio as -5, it'd be far easier just
to look at the paths from the balloon to the local -15 since they'll
reflect the same paths as seen by -5 on its own local screen.

This is yet another instance where you cannot use the APRS-IS to
evaluate what's happening in the RF world.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 10/17/2013 2:32 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
-1 and 15 are on the same computer, and all 3 share the same radio. I'm in an rf hole so I can't really hear anything. The path lines in question are from looking at -15 mutitracking -5 which at this time is a rx only igate at my dads. I confirmed by ?dx and ?aprsh that it was indeed hearing the balloon. -15 was not showing the path lines between -5 and the balloon.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:53:40
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines

     
    
    
    


If I read what you are saying correctly, you are looking at a TCP/IP feed for RF path lines?
    
    
     
-1   RF radio
-13  RF radio - same physical radio
-15  server - no RF, but full feed
              "... I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither ..."
       Or are you trying to see "Tracks" from station movements?
     
My instance is configured to draw a line connecting the TX station with my station through DIGI's - indicating the "PATH" the packet took.  I have not seen such LINES on an IS only feed.
       MENU >Screen >PATH >RFONLY
         This seems to take precedence and turns OFF any other option
           [like MENU >Screen >PATH >Netwrok(LINKS)]
     
Any instance I have running (including Multitracks) will show TRACKS that are lines connecting multiple points received.
     
I assume you are using the same terminology, but I would check the note about precedence of RFONLY.  That could be set???
     
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


    
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From: Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@hotmail.com>
To: "aprsisce@yahoogroups.com" <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Fw: [aprsisce] Path lines
    

Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comDate: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:43:18 To: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)<kj4erj@arrl.net>Reply-To: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comSubject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesI have only one radio at my current residence and run my home station -1 that is my digi and qru server, and I also run -15 on the same machine which is my world feed. -13 is on a different computer and is networked to the same radio.&nbsp; I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither one was showing up on a multitrack of -5 or the balloon.
     I did remote login on teamviewer to -5 and it did show the balloon as being heard. Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:23:18 To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesWhy do you have three IGates running against (I suspect) a single agw instance?&nbsp; That's got to muddy the waters, especially since you didn't say which station you're trying to look a the paths on.Is what I see from here.&nbsp; What Times option do you have selected? The shot above is with Times of Long or 30 minutes.Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32On
     10/16/2013 6:59 PM, Greg Depew wrote:> Lynn and group, I have a question about path lines. Right now the balloon ATHER4-1 is up and is being copied directly by my rx only igate KB3KBR-5, but both the path lines in my full feed -15 do not show in either the multi tracks of the balloon or my igate nor in the main window. I have the times set to all and everything but rf only checked. Am I missing something? Thanks.> Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry>>>> ------------------------------------>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:&nbsp; &nbsp; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce/&;amp;lt;*&amp;amp;gt; Your email settings:&nbsp; &nbsp; Individual Email |
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Re: Path lines

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Another interesting feature of the APRS-IS is that not all connected clients will see the same packet if it is gated from multiple points near simultaneously. This is due to the distributed nature of the APRS-IS dupe filter and the way packets are propagated through the network. So, even if aprs.fi showed a few packets gated by -5, that doesn't mean that -15 would have seen the same gate information on the same packet. This is especially true of HABs as they are concurrently hitting numerous IGates with every single packet. About the only time you see a digipeated HAB packet on the APRS-IS is when the packet lives long enough to be delivered 30 seconds later than the first copy of the packet. This is exacerbated by KPC-3+ IGates running in KISS mode.

If you have a chance to do this again, do a Control-G on -15 and enter a filter of e/KB3KBR-5. The resulting filter test window will show all packets that end with qAR,KB3KBR-5 delivered via the APRS-IS each of which should be reflected in the APRSISCE/32 path display provided you've got those settings all done correctly.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/17/2013 3:25 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
No -5 is a separate igate about 10 mi away from 1 and 15 running XP. 1 and 15 are on the same computer running win7. 13 is on my win8 machine. 1, 15, and 13 all connect to the same agw on the win7 machine. 5 was receiving directly and was first a couple of times to get it to the IS as per APRS.FI. 1,15 and 13 only heard it direct a few times and only 13 gated it. And the paths of both the balloon and 5 did not show between the two.
Hope that clears things abit.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:39:11
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines


Ah, NOW I think I get what was going on. Let's see if I have this right:

-5 was receiving the balloon directly via RF and gating to the APRS-IS

-15 was also receiving the balloon on the same radio (thanks to AGW),
but was also receiving an APRS-IS feed

-15 didn't show any paths between the balloon and -5. This is to be
expected as -15 only knows what -5 is receiving via the APRS-IS. And if
-5 wasn't the first station to gate any of the packets, then no paths
would show.

If you want -15 to show RF paths for -5 without the APRS-IS dupe filter
messing you up, then you need to set up a Local Server port on -5 and
connect to it from -15. That way -15 will see everything that -5 sees
from RF with the appropriate ,qAR construct because the Local Server
function in APRSISCE/32 doesn't do any dupe filtering.

Since -15 is connected to the same radio as -5, it'd be far easier just
to look at the paths from the balloon to the local -15 since they'll
reflect the same paths as seen by -5 on its own local screen.

This is yet another instance where you cannot use the APRS-IS to
evaluate what's happening in the RF world.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 10/17/2013 2:32 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
-1 and 15 are on the same computer, and all 3 share the same radio. I'm in an rf hole so I can't really hear anything. The path lines in question are from looking at -15 mutitracking -5 which at this time is a rx only igate at my dads. I confirmed by ?dx and ?aprsh that it was indeed hearing the balloon. -15 was not showing the path lines between -5 and the balloon.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:53:40
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines



If I read what you are saying correctly, you are looking at a TCP/IP feed for RF path lines?
-1 RF radio
-13 RF radio - same physical radio
-15 server - no RF, but full feed
"... I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither ..."
Or are you trying to see "Tracks" from station movements?
My instance is configured to draw a line connecting the TX station with my station through DIGI's - indicating the "PATH" the packet took. I have not seen such LINES on an IS only feed.
MENU >Screen >PATH >RFONLY
This seems to take precedence and turns OFF any other option
[like MENU >Screen >PATH >Netwrok(LINKS)]
Any instance I have running (including Multitracks) will show TRACKS that are lines connecting multiple points received.
I assume you are using the same terminology, but I would check the note about precedence of RFONLY. That could be set???
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


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From: Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@hotmail.com>
To: "aprsisce@yahoogroups.com" <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Fw: [aprsisce] Path lines

Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comDate: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:43:18 To: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)<kj4erj@arrl.net>Reply-To: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comSubject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesI have only one radio at my current residence and run my home station -1 that is my digi and qru server, and I also run -15 on the same machine which is my world feed. -13 is on a different computer and is networked to the same radio.&nbsp; I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither one was showing up on a multitrack of -5 or the balloon.
I did remote login on teamviewer to -5 and it did show the balloon as being heard. Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:23:18 To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesWhy do you have three IGates running against (I suspect) a single agw instance?&nbsp; That's got to muddy the waters, especially since you didn't say which station you're trying to look a the paths on.Is what I see from here.&nbsp; What Times option do you have selected? The shot above is with Times of Long or 30 minutes.Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32On
10/16/2013 6:59 PM, Greg Depew wrote:> Lynn and group, I have a question about path lines. Right now the balloon ATHER4-1 is up and is being copied directly by my rx only igate KB3KBR-5, but both the path lines in my full feed -15 do not show in either the multi tracks of the balloon or my igate nor in the main window. I have the times set to all and everything but rf only checked. Am I missing something? Thanks.> Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry>>>> ------------------------------------>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:&nbsp; &nbsp; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce/&;lt;*&amp;gt; Your email settings:&nbsp; &nbsp; Individual Email |
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Re: Path lines

Greg Depew
 

No -5 is a separate igate about 10 mi away from 1 and 15 running XP. 1 and 15 are on the same computer running win7. 13 is on my win8 machine. 1, 15, and 13 all connect to the same agw on the win7 machine. 5 was receiving directly and was first a couple of times to get it to the IS as per APRS.FI. 1,15 and 13 only heard it direct a few times and only 13 gated it. And the paths of both the balloon and 5 did not show between the two.
Hope that clears things abit.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:39:11
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines


Ah, NOW I think I get what was going on.  Let's see if I have this right:

-5 was receiving the balloon directly via RF and gating to the APRS-IS

-15 was also receiving the balloon on the same radio (thanks to AGW),
but was also receiving an APRS-IS feed

-15 didn't show any paths between the balloon and -5.  This is to be
expected as -15 only knows what -5 is receiving via the APRS-IS.  And if
-5 wasn't the first station to gate any of the packets, then no paths
would show.

If you want -15 to show RF paths for -5 without the APRS-IS dupe filter
messing you up, then you need to set up a Local Server port on -5 and
connect to it from -15.  That way -15 will see everything that -5 sees
from RF with the appropriate ,qAR construct because the Local Server
function in APRSISCE/32 doesn't do any dupe filtering.

Since -15 is connected to the same radio as -5, it'd be far easier just
to look at the paths from the balloon to the local -15 since they'll
reflect the same paths as seen by -5 on its own local screen.

This is yet another instance where you cannot use the APRS-IS to
evaluate what's happening in the RF world.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 10/17/2013 2:32 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
-1 and 15 are on the same computer, and all 3 share the same radio. I'm in an rf hole so I can't really hear anything. The path lines in question are from looking at -15 mutitracking -5 which at this time is a rx only igate at my dads. I confirmed by ?dx and ?aprsh that it was indeed hearing the balloon. -15 was not showing the path lines between -5 and the balloon.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:53:40
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines

   
  
  
  


If I read what you are saying correctly, you are looking at a TCP/IP feed for RF path lines?
  
  
   
-1   RF radio
-13  RF radio - same physical radio
-15  server - no RF, but full feed
            "... I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither ..."
     Or are you trying to see "Tracks" from station movements?
   
My instance is configured to draw a line connecting the TX station with my station through DIGI's - indicating the "PATH" the packet took.  I have not seen such LINES on an IS only feed.
     MENU >Screen >PATH >RFONLY
       This seems to take precedence and turns OFF any other option
         [like MENU >Screen >PATH >Netwrok(LINKS)]
   
Any instance I have running (including Multitracks) will show TRACKS that are lines connecting multiple points received.
   
I assume you are using the same terminology, but I would check the note about precedence of RFONLY.  That could be set???
   
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


  
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From: Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@hotmail.com>
To: "aprsisce@yahoogroups.com" <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Fw: [aprsisce] Path lines
  

Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comDate: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:43:18 To: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)&lt;kj4erj@arrl.net>Reply-To: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comSubject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesI have only one radio at my current residence and run my home station -1 that is my digi and qru server, and I also run -15 on the same machine which is my world feed. -13 is on a different computer and is networked to the same radio.&nbsp; I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither one was showing up on a multitrack of -5 or the balloon.
   I did remote login on teamviewer to -5 and it did show the balloon as being heard. Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net&gt;Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:23:18 To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesWhy do you have three IGates running against (I suspect) a single agw instance?&nbsp; That's got to muddy the waters, especially since you didn't say which station you're trying to look a the paths on.Is what I see from here.&nbsp; What Times option do you have selected? The shot above is with Times of Long or 30 minutes.Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32On
   10/16/2013 6:59 PM, Greg Depew wrote:> Lynn and group, I have a question about path lines. Right now the balloon ATHER4-1 is up and is being copied directly by my rx only igate KB3KBR-5, but both the path lines in my full feed -15 do not show in either the multi tracks of the balloon or my igate nor in the main window. I have the times set to all and everything but rf only checked. Am I missing something? Thanks.> Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry>>>> ------------------------------------>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:&nbsp; &nbsp; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce/&;lt;*&amp;gt; Your email settings:&nbsp; &nbsp; Individual Email |
   Traditional<*> To change settings online go to:&nbsp; &nbsp; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce/join&;nbsp; &nbsp; (Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email:&nbsp; &nbsp; aprsisce-digest@yahoogroups.com &nbsp; &nbsp; aprsisce-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:&nbsp; &nbsp; aprsisce-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:&nbsp; &nbsp; http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

     
      

     
     


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Re: Path lines

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Ah, NOW I think I get what was going on. Let's see if I have this right:

-5 was receiving the balloon directly via RF and gating to the APRS-IS

-15 was also receiving the balloon on the same radio (thanks to AGW), but was also receiving an APRS-IS feed

-15 didn't show any paths between the balloon and -5. This is to be expected as -15 only knows what -5 is receiving via the APRS-IS. And if -5 wasn't the first station to gate any of the packets, then no paths would show.

If you want -15 to show RF paths for -5 without the APRS-IS dupe filter messing you up, then you need to set up a Local Server port on -5 and connect to it from -15. That way -15 will see everything that -5 sees from RF with the appropriate ,qAR construct because the Local Server function in APRSISCE/32 doesn't do any dupe filtering.

Since -15 is connected to the same radio as -5, it'd be far easier just to look at the paths from the balloon to the local -15 since they'll reflect the same paths as seen by -5 on its own local screen.

This is yet another instance where you cannot use the APRS-IS to evaluate what's happening in the RF world.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/17/2013 2:32 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
-1 and 15 are on the same computer, and all 3 share the same radio. I'm in an rf hole so I can't really hear anything. The path lines in question are from looking at -15 mutitracking -5 which at this time is a rx only igate at my dads. I confirmed by ?dx and ?aprsh that it was indeed hearing the balloon. -15 was not showing the path lines between -5 and the balloon.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:53:40
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines



If I read what you are saying correctly, you are looking at a TCP/IP feed for RF path lines?
-1 RF radio
-13 RF radio - same physical radio
-15 server - no RF, but full feed
"... I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither ..."
Or are you trying to see "Tracks" from station movements?
My instance is configured to draw a line connecting the TX station with my station through DIGI's - indicating the "PATH" the packet took. I have not seen such LINES on an IS only feed.
MENU >Screen >PATH >RFONLY
This seems to take precedence and turns OFF any other option
[like MENU >Screen >PATH >Netwrok(LINKS)]
Any instance I have running (including Multitracks) will show TRACKS that are lines connecting multiple points received.
I assume you are using the same terminology, but I would check the note about precedence of RFONLY. That could be set???
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


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From: Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@hotmail.com>
To: "aprsisce@yahoogroups.com" <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Fw: [aprsisce] Path lines

Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comDate: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:43:18 To: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)<kj4erj@arrl.net>Reply-To: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comSubject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesI have only one radio at my current residence and run my home station -1 that is my digi and qru server, and I also run -15 on the same machine which is my world feed. -13 is on a different computer and is networked to the same radio.&nbsp; I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither one was showing up on a multitrack of -5 or the balloon.
I did remote login on teamviewer to -5 and it did show the balloon as being heard. Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:23:18 To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesWhy do you have three IGates running against (I suspect) a single agw instance?&nbsp; That's got to muddy the waters, especially since you didn't say which station you're trying to look a the paths on.Is what I see from here.&nbsp; What Times option do you have selected? The shot above is with Times of Long or 30 minutes.Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32On
10/16/2013 6:59 PM, Greg Depew wrote:> Lynn and group, I have a question about path lines. Right now the balloon ATHER4-1 is up and is being copied directly by my rx only igate KB3KBR-5, but both the path lines in my full feed -15 do not show in either the multi tracks of the balloon or my igate nor in the main window. I have the times set to all and everything but rf only checked. Am I missing something? Thanks.> Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry>>>> ------------------------------------>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:&nbsp; &nbsp; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce/<*> Your email settings:&nbsp; &nbsp; Individual Email |
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Re: Path lines

Greg Depew
 

-1 and 15 are on the same computer, and all 3 share the same radio. I'm in an rf hole so I can't really hear anything. The path lines in question are from looking at -15 mutitracking -5 which at this time is a rx only igate at my dads. I confirmed by ?dx and ?aprsh that it was indeed hearing the balloon. -15 was not showing the path lines between -5 and the balloon.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:53:40
To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines

 





If I read what you are saying correctly, you are looking at a TCP/IP feed for RF path lines?


 
-1   RF radio
-13  RF radio - same physical radio
-15  server - no RF, but full feed
          "... I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither ..."
   Or are you trying to see "Tracks" from station movements?
 
My instance is configured to draw a line connecting the TX station with my station through DIGI's - indicating the "PATH" the packet took.  I have not seen such LINES on an IS only feed.
   MENU >Screen >PATH >RFONLY
     This seems to take precedence and turns OFF any other option
       [like MENU >Screen >PATH >Netwrok(LINKS)]
 
Any instance I have running (including Multitracks) will show TRACKS that are lines connecting multiple points received.
 
I assume you are using the same terminology, but I would check the note about precedence of RFONLY.  That could be set???
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



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From: Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@hotmail.com>
To: "aprsisce@yahoogroups.com" <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Fw: [aprsisce] Path lines


Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comDate: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:43:18 To: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)<kj4erj@arrl.net>Reply-To: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comSubject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesI have only one radio at my current residence and run my home station -1 that is my digi and qru server, and I also run -15 on the same machine which is my world feed. -13 is on a different computer and is networked to the same radio.&nbsp; I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither one was showing up on a multitrack of -5 or the balloon.
I did remote login on teamviewer to -5 and it did show the balloon as being heard. Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@arrl.net>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:23:18 To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesWhy do you have three IGates running against (I suspect) a single agw instance?&nbsp; That's got to muddy the waters, especially since you didn't say which station you're trying to look a the paths on.Is what I see from here.&nbsp; What Times option do you have selected? The shot above is with Times of Long or 30 minutes.Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32On
10/16/2013 6:59 PM, Greg Depew wrote:> Lynn and group, I have a question about path lines. Right now the balloon ATHER4-1 is up and is being copied directly by my rx only igate KB3KBR-5, but both the path lines in my full feed -15 do not show in either the multi tracks of the balloon or my igate nor in the main window. I have the times set to all and everything but rf only checked. Am I missing something? Thanks.> Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry>>>> ------------------------------------>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:&nbsp; &nbsp; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce/<*> Your email settings:&nbsp; &nbsp; Individual Email |
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