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Re: SCS Robust Packet Setting

Jeremy <jcaoy@...>
 

Thanks for all of the input. I think I am set by going through the various sources you pointed me to. The RPR Manual has a script that I discovered just after fixing mine by using the info from the APRSIS32 Wiki.

In any case, this script in the XML file seems to do the trick:

<!--RFPort[1]-->
<RFPort Name="SCS Tracker">
<Protocol>KISS</Protocol>
<Device>COM23:38400,N,8,1</Device>
<RfBaud>300</RfBaud>
<OpenCmd>^027~!!1</OpenCmd>
<OpenCmd>^064^075!!0</OpenCmd>
<CloseCmd>^192^255^192~!!1</CloseCmd>
<CloseCmd>^027~!!1</CloseCmd>
<QuietTime>0</QuietTime>
<Enabled>1</Enabled>
<XmitEnabled>1</XmitEnabled>
<ProvidesNMEA>0</ProvidesNMEA>
<RFtoISEnabled>1</RFtoISEnabled>
<IStoRFEnabled>1</IStoRFEnabled>
<MyCallNot3rd>0</MyCallNot3rd>
<BeaconingEnabled>1</BeaconingEnabled>
<BeaconPath></BeaconPath>
<BulletinObjectEnabled>1</BulletinObjectEnabled>
<DXEnabled>0</DXEnabled>
<DXPath></DXPath>
<MessagesEnabled>1</MessagesEnabled>
<MessagePath></MessagePath>
<TelemetryEnabled>1</TelemetryEnabled>
<TelemetryPath></TelemetryPath>
<!--DigiXform-->
</RFPort>
<!--RFPort[1]-->

It is RF port 1 because I have my KAM as port 0. (I disable one or the other when I run this application.)

I used the SCS program TRConfig to do the initial settings. This Windows 7 machine has no terminal program and trying to get any of my older machines to look at COM23 wasn't working either. That program not only can set everything up easily, it also does firmware updates.

When you fire the TNC and program up, the Red LED for KISS mode does light up so that is a good indication that it worked correctly. When I hit the "transmit" button it does appear to send out the Robust packet. I can't see if it decodes as I haven't gotten a 30M antenna up, but that will be tomorrow's project.

When you shut the program down, you do have to cycle the power of the Tracker or it won't re-initialize in KISS mode. Not sure why, but it's a known problem.

73
Jeremy N1ZZZ


usb gps

Don Eklund
 

Is there a way to use a usb gps with aprsisce? 

 

 

Don

 

 


Re: SCS Robust Packet Setting

Fred Hillhouse
 

Hi Jeremy,
 
All the TNCs I have used to-date allow setting up via HyperTerminal, PuTTY or your favorite terminal application.
 
Using a terminal application, you can look at the settings and make adjustments. On the face, DIP switch 2 is for the baud rate used to converse with the PC. Make note of it and set your terminal app appropriately. I would not change from 38400 to 115200. The slower speed is typically more robust. [Pg 3 of manual]
 
Command %B sets your RF baud rate. [page 22]
 
Command @K will put the device in KISS. [page 12]
The comments associated with @K seems to imply that the @K must be entered each time the device is powered up. If that is the case, then @K will need to be part of the KISS configuration in APRSIS32. If it turns out KISS is retained across a power up, then APRSIS32 has a SimplyKISS port configuration that may work.
 
This may help you at some point: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/port-configuration
 
Another commenter mentioned that other SCS TNC users use UI-View. If you can get the config file/info, then we should be able to help more if you post it. Once it is operational, we would like to add the information to the WIKI as well.
 
 
Best regards,
Fred, N7FMH
 
 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 16:51
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] SCS Robust Packet Setting

 

Hi All,

I took delivery of my SCS tracker today and am trying to get it to work with the program.

My issue, I think, right now is that I can't get the program to tell it to go to Robust Packet 300 baud. The menu on in the configure box doesn't give that option, and when I select "other" it enters a "0" in the script. How do I fix this.

When I initiate the modem in the program, the TX keys and it sends packet data and then doesn't transmit again, even when I hit the "Transmit" key. I haven't hooked it up to an RX antenna, just the dummy load until I can get this figured out.

Could someone who uses this modem post the entire script in the XML file so that I can compare?

I appreciate any help

73
Jeremy N1ZZZ


Re: SCS Robust Packet Setting

sbd sbd
 

I would suggest asking Helge DF8LS he does a lot of RPN and is a member of this group.

If anyone has an SCS Tracker running with APRSIS32 it’s most likely him

 

 

Steve Daniels

Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle  Owner

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of wb2lmv
Sent: 20 May 2013 21:59
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] SCS Robust Packet Setting

 

 

Jeremy,

From what I can see, the members of the Robust Packet Network all use UI-View32.

Look at the "tip and tricks" area to see how to do it. Maybe Lynn will add it.

73 Glenn WB2LMV

http://robust-packet.net/

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Jeremy
To: aprsisce <aprsisce@...>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 4:50 pm
Subject: [aprsisce] SCS Robust Packet Setting

 

Hi All,

I took delivery of my SCS tracker today and am trying to get it to work with the program.

My issue, I think, right now is that I can't get the program to tell it to go to Robust Packet 300 baud. The menu on in the configure box doesn't give that option, and when I select "other" it enters a "0" in the script. How do I fix this.

When I initiate the modem in the program, the TX keys and it sends packet data and then doesn't transmit again, even when I hit the "Transmit" key. I haven't hooked it up to an RX antenna, just the dummy load until I can get this figured out.

Could someone who uses this modem post the entire script in the XML file so that I can compare?

I appreciate any help

73
Jeremy N1ZZZ


Re: SCS Robust Packet Setting

wb2lmv <wb2lmv@...>
 

Jeremy,
From what I can see, the members of the Robust Packet Network all use UI-View32.
Look at the "tip and tricks" area to see how to do it. Maybe Lynn will add it.




-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy
To: aprsisce
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 4:50 pm
Subject: [aprsisce] SCS Robust Packet Setting

 
Hi All,

I took delivery of my SCS tracker today and am trying to get it to work with the program.

My issue, I think, right now is that I can't get the program to tell it to go to Robust Packet 300 baud. The menu on in the configure box doesn't give that option, and when I select "other" it enters a "0" in the script. How do I fix this.

When I initiate the modem in the program, the TX keys and it sends packet data and then doesn't transmit again, even when I hit the "Transmit" key. I haven't hooked it up to an RX antenna, just the dummy load until I can get this figured out.

Could someone who uses this modem post the entire script in the XML file so that I can compare?

I appreciate any help

73
Jeremy N1ZZZ


SCS Robust Packet Setting

Jeremy <jcaoy@...>
 

Hi All,

I took delivery of my SCS tracker today and am trying to get it to work with the program.

My issue, I think, right now is that I can't get the program to tell it to go to Robust Packet 300 baud. The menu on in the configure box doesn't give that option, and when I select "other" it enters a "0" in the script. How do I fix this.

When I initiate the modem in the program, the TX keys and it sends packet data and then doesn't transmit again, even when I hit the "Transmit" key. I haven't hooked it up to an RX antenna, just the dummy load until I can get this figured out.

Could someone who uses this modem post the entire script in the XML file so that I can compare?

I appreciate any help

73
Jeremy N1ZZZ


Re: usb gps

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

The only way to use a USB GPS with APRSISCE is if it offers a serial port as mentioned by Steve.

I also own Delorme GPS units and the BT-20 is just about as cheap as their USB GPS, but it works fine if your laptop has Bluetooth.

Even if it doesn't, the BT-20 coupled with a $5 Bluetooth dongle from China makes a workable configuration.  And as a bonus you have no wires between the laptop and the GPS and the same bluetooth interface can drive a Bluetooth to serial adapter on your TNC!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/20/2013 7:13 PM, Don Eklund wrote:

Is there a way to use a usb gps with aprsisce? 

 

 

Don

 



Re: usb gps

Don Eklund
 

I have a Delorme GPS and it does not    

Delorme does have a usb serial convert, but does not work with a 64 bit laptop.  


On May 19, 2013, at 7:21 PM, "Steve Daniels" <steve@...> wrote:

 

Most USB GPS devices install a driver that looks to the software like a serial port, I use a Bluetooth and a serial GPS unit without problems

 

Steve Daniels

Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle  Owner

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Don Eklund
Sent: 21 May 2013 00:13
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] usb gps

 

 

Is there a way to use a usb gps with aprsisce? 

 

 

Don

 

 



Don






Re: usb gps

sbd sbd
 

Most USB GPS devices install a driver that looks to the software like a serial port, I use a Bluetooth and a serial GPS unit without problems

 

Steve Daniels

Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle  Owner

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Don Eklund
Sent: 21 May 2013 00:13
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] usb gps

 

 

Is there a way to use a usb gps with aprsisce? 

 

 

Don

 

 


Re: Trying out a new mode with aprsis32 and multipsk in KISS on HF

sbd sbd
 

Looks interesting had a brief play with it today, going to figure out how to interface it with APRSIS32 next

Perhaps you could write something up on it that I can put in the WIKI

 

Steve Daniels

Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle  Owner

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

 


From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Steinar Aanesland
Sent: 18 May 2013 12:56
To: APRSIS32
Subject: [aprsisce] Trying out a new mode with aprsis32 and multipsk in KISS on HF

 

 

Hi all ,I hope this is not to out of topic for this group.

As some of you probably know, 300b packet is not the best choice on HF,
but there are some alternatives.
One of them is ALE400 . ALE400 is ARQ mode in Multipsk.

I have made me a small lab testing out the ALE400/Multipsk software in
KISS with aprsis32 and UI-View32.

My lab is like this:

I am using to PCes simulating station "LA5VNA" and station "LC5VNA".
They are connecting together trough their mic's and they loudspeakers.

I was first testing out a combination of
Multipsk/KISS/UI-View32 on station "LA5VNA", and a combination of
Multipsk/KISS/aprsis32 on station "LC5VNA".

[Multipsk/KISS/UI-View32]<===mic's/loudspeakers==>[Multipsk/KISS/aprsis32]

Beaconing was working great form station "a" and "b". Both maps was
updated, but when trying the message function something

strange was happening.

When UI-View32 (station "LA5VNA") was sending a message like "test",
this appeared in the middle window of multipsk:
LA5VNA :LC5VNA :test{12

When aprsis32 (station"LC5VNA") was responding with an ack, this was
appearing in the
lower window of multipsk on station"LA5VNA" :

[End of TX] FAE APRS frame
LC5VNA :LA5VNA :ack12 [FAE APRS]
...KISS frame repeated

Station"LA5VNA" had got its ack and seems to be happy.

BUT, when aprsis32 (station"LC5VNA") was sending a "test" message,
thisappeared in the middle window of Multipsk:
LC5VNA :LA5VNA :test{PU}HX

When is UI-View32 (station "LA5VNA") was responding with an ack, this
was appearing in the
lower window of Multipsk on station"LC5VNA" :

[End of TX] FAE APRS frame
LA5VNA :LA5VNA :ackPU}HX [FAE APRS]
...KISS frame repeated

The aprsis32 (station"LC5VNA") seems not to recognize ackPU}HX as an ACK
so it keep repeating the "test" message until it times

out.

I was then trying with only UI-View32on both station"LC5VNA" and
"LA5VNA" and everything works fine. With only aprsis32 there

was absolutely no way of getting the stations to recognize the ACK's

Does anyone have a clue of was going on ?

If you want to try this , download latest ver of multipsk, but remember
to read the "ALE_and_ALE400_APRS_with_UI-

VIEW_through_Multipsk_easy.doc"
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16381257/MULTIPSK_TEST_16_05_2013.ZIP

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Re: APRSISCE vs Baofeng UV-3R

Mike Miller <mike.kc9doa@...>
 

Hi Kevin,

I see you have solved your problem. I seem to remember a mod to
cure the problem that was adding 1 or 2 caps to bypass the PTT
transistor on the TNC-X. If you have more problems, contact John
at Coastal Chip Works.
<http://tnc-x.com/>

73
Mike kc9doa

On 19 May 2013 at 13:21, kevin_kleinfelter wrote:

I connected APRSISCE, a TNC-X, and a Baofeng UV-3R. They play
well together for RF-receive and RF-to-Internet.

When I enable Xmit Enable, after a while the red transmit LED
on the UV-3R goes on and stays on. Curiously, the red transmit
LED on the TNC is *not* on.

When in this state, the only ways to bring it back to normal
are to unplug the cable between the TNC and the UV-3R (always
works) or to power off the TNC (sometimes works).

Any suggestions?
TNX DE K4KPK / Kevin



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Re: APRSISCE vs Baofeng UV-3R

Gregory Ames
 

I had similar issues with a TinyTrak4 and FT-60R when using the attached antenna.  Placing cheap Radio Shack ferrite chokes at either end and coiling the cable into 1 inch coils solved the problem.


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Kevin Kleinfelter <kleinfelter.groups@...> wrote:
 

I lowered the output power, moved the HT away from the TNC, and it still got stuck on transmit.

Then I added a choke to the end of the cable nearest the HT.  That fixed it.
TNX
Kevin/K4KPK


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Don Rolph <don.rolph@...> wrote:
 

The TNC-X is sensitive to RF fields.  I have the same problem when I use my FT-817ND.  Lower the output power to perhaps 1 watt and see if the issue improves.

Also try using an external antenna and see if the issue resolves.





Re: APRSISCE vs Baofeng UV-3R

Kevin Kleinfelter
 

I lowered the output power, moved the HT away from the TNC, and it still got stuck on transmit.
Then I added a choke to the end of the cable nearest the HT.  That fixed it.
TNX
Kevin/K4KPK


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Don Rolph <don.rolph@...> wrote:
 

The TNC-X is sensitive to RF fields.  I have the same problem when I use my FT-817ND.  Lower the output power to perhaps 1 watt and see if the issue improves.

Also try using an external antenna and see if the issue resolves.




Re: APRSISCE vs Baofeng UV-3R

Don Rolph
 

The TNC-X is sensitive to RF fields.  I have the same problem when I use my FT-817ND.  Lower the output power to perhaps 1 watt and see if the issue improves.

Also try using an external antenna and see if the issue resolves.


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM, kevin_kleinfelter <kleinfelter.groups@...> wrote:
 

I connected APRSISCE, a TNC-X, and a Baofeng UV-3R. They play well together for RF-receive and RF-to-Internet.

When I enable Xmit Enable, after a while the red transmit LED on the UV-3R goes on and stays on. Curiously, the red transmit LED on the TNC is *not* on.

When in this state, the only ways to bring it back to normal are to unplug the cable between the TNC and the UV-3R (always works) or to power off the TNC (sometimes works).

Any suggestions?
TNX DE K4KPK / Kevin



APRSISCE vs Baofeng UV-3R

Kevin Kleinfelter
 

I connected APRSISCE, a TNC-X, and a Baofeng UV-3R. They play well together for RF-receive and RF-to-Internet.

When I enable Xmit Enable, after a while the red transmit LED on the UV-3R goes on and stays on. Curiously, the red transmit LED on the TNC is *not* on.

When in this state, the only ways to bring it back to normal are to unplug the cable between the TNC and the UV-3R (always works) or to power off the TNC (sometimes works).

Any suggestions?
TNX DE K4KPK / Kevin


Re: Observations on APRS testing during Walpole Day

Don Rolph
 

Absolutely feel free to move this to the wiki.

A web link for Walpole Day may be found at:


Enjoy!

And thanks for all your work on APRSISCE!

73,
AB1PH
Don Rolph


On May 18, 2013, at 6:25 PM, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

 

Very nice.  Do you mind if we copy the PowerPoint to the Wiki for easier access?

And if so, do you have a link to just what "Walpole Day" is about?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/18/2013 6:07 PM, Don Rolph wrote:
Some APRS testing during the Walpole Day activities.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Don Rolph <don.rolph@...>
Date: Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM
Subject: Observations on APRS testing during Walpole Day
To: "CERT, Walpole" <cert@...>, "wlp1ema@..." <wlp1ema@...>, Dave Doe <d.doe@...>, lightbody911 <lightbody911@...>, Dick Mordaunt <Sea_Brat2002@...>, Pete Spotts <w1pns@...>, Dick Bean <dick.bean@...>, Jeff Marden <jmardensdl@...>
Cc: Don Rolph <don.rolph@...>


Attached is a PowerPoint  including some map images showing APRS tracking of the CERT truck and individuals walking the field during Walpole day.

One can verify the data by going to http://aprs.fi/ and searching on AB1PH-12 and KB1TJI-12.

It would appear that APRS properly deployed can effectively track both vehicular and foot based assets in the field with readily available equipment.  Fillin digipeater support to cover areas with difficult coverage is advisable.

73,
AB1PH
Don Rolph



Re: Observations on APRS testing during Walpole Day [1 Attachment]

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Very nice.  Do you mind if we copy the PowerPoint to the Wiki for easier access?

And if so, do you have a link to just what "Walpole Day" is about?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 5/18/2013 6:07 PM, Don Rolph wrote:
Some APRS testing during the Walpole Day activities.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Don Rolph <don.rolph@...>
Date: Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM
Subject: Observations on APRS testing during Walpole Day
To: "CERT, Walpole" <cert@...>, "wlp1ema@..." <wlp1ema@...>, Dave Doe <d.doe@...>, lightbody911 <lightbody911@...>, Dick Mordaunt <Sea_Brat2002@...>, Pete Spotts <w1pns@...>, Dick Bean <dick.bean@...>, Jeff Marden <jmardensdl@...>
Cc: Don Rolph <don.rolph@...>


Attached is a PowerPoint  including some map images showing APRS tracking of the CERT truck and individuals walking the field during Walpole day.

One can verify the data by going to http://aprs.fi/ and searching on AB1PH-12 and KB1TJI-12.

It would appear that APRS properly deployed can effectively track both vehicular and foot based assets in the field with readily available equipment.  Fillin digipeater support to cover areas with difficult coverage is advisable.

73,
AB1PH
Don Rolph



Observations on APRS testing during Walpole Day

Don Rolph
 

Some APRS testing during the Walpole Day activities.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Don Rolph <don.rolph@...>
Date: Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM
Subject: Observations on APRS testing during Walpole Day
To: "CERT, Walpole" <cert@...>, "wlp1ema@..." <wlp1ema@...>, Dave Doe <d.doe@...>, lightbody911 <lightbody911@...>, Dick Mordaunt <Sea_Brat2002@...>, Pete Spotts <w1pns@...>, Dick Bean <dick.bean@...>, Jeff Marden <jmardensdl@...>
Cc: Don Rolph <don.rolph@...>


Attached is a PowerPoint  including some map images showing APRS tracking of the CERT truck and individuals walking the field during Walpole day.

One can verify the data by going to http://aprs.fi/ and searching on AB1PH-12 and KB1TJI-12.

It would appear that APRS properly deployed can effectively track both vehicular and foot based assets in the field with readily available equipment.  Fillin digipeater support to cover areas with difficult coverage is advisable.

73,
AB1PH
Don Rolph


Re: Trying out a new mode with aprsis32 and multipsk in KISS on HF

Steinar Aanesland <saanes@...>
 

Lynn


Thank for your reply. I will do some more testing and send you the log :)


" Has anyone used MultiPSK's KISS mode for other APRS messaging? Is
this even possible?" Yes, take a look at this youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lKbhtChkGw

LA6VNA S

On 18.05.2013 15:43, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:
Please bring up Enables / View Logs / Port(<YourRFPort>) and enable it
and do the message test again. I'm suspecting that something in the
chain is mucking about with the curly brace inside the ack sequence
which is the Reply-Ack protocol. This is supposed to be fully backward
compatible (I've had many QSOs with UI-View users), so it must be
something in the ALE/ARQ/MultiPSK chain that is introducing something
strange.

If you also check Enables / Logging / File Enabled, then the trace from
above will also go into your APRSIS32.LOG file that you can send on to
KJ4ERJ@... with a reminder of what it is I'm looking at.

While you've got it all put together, try messaging back and forth with
a UI-View station over the APRS-IS and/or standard packet just to show
that the same configuration of the stations (outside of the RF path)
truly does function. It's a case of "show what works" and then "what's
different" must be the source of the problem.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS. Has anyone used MultiPSK's KISS mode for other APRS messaging? Is
this even possible?

On 5/18/2013 7:56 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote:
Hi all ,I hope this is not to out of topic for this group.

As some of you probably know, 300b packet is not the best choice on HF,
but there are some alternatives.
One of them is ALE400 . ALE400 is ARQ mode in Multipsk.

I have made me a small lab testing out the ALE400/Multipsk software in
KISS with aprsis32 and UI-View32.

My lab is like this:

I am using to PCes simulating station "LA5VNA" and station "LC5VNA".
They are connecting together trough their mic's and they loudspeakers.

I was first testing out a combination of
Multipsk/KISS/UI-View32 on station "LA5VNA", and a combination of
Multipsk/KISS/aprsis32 on station "LC5VNA".

[Multipsk/KISS/UI-View32]<===mic's/loudspeakers==>[Multipsk/KISS/aprsis32]

Beaconing was working great form station "a" and "b". Both maps was
updated, but when trying the message function something

strange was happening.

When UI-View32 (station "LA5VNA") was sending a message like "test",
this appeared in the middle window of multipsk:
LA5VNA :LC5VNA :test{12

When aprsis32 (station"LC5VNA") was responding with an ack, this was
appearing in the
lower window of multipsk on station"LA5VNA" :

[End of TX] FAE APRS frame
LC5VNA :LA5VNA :ack12 [FAE APRS]
...KISS frame repeated

Station"LA5VNA" had got its ack and seems to be happy.


BUT, when aprsis32 (station"LC5VNA") was sending a "test" message,
thisappeared in the middle window of Multipsk:
LC5VNA :LA5VNA :test{PU}HX

When is UI-View32 (station "LA5VNA") was responding with an ack, this
was appearing in the
lower window of Multipsk on station"LC5VNA" :

[End of TX] FAE APRS frame
LA5VNA :LA5VNA :ackPU}HX [FAE APRS]
...KISS frame repeated


The aprsis32 (station"LC5VNA") seems not to recognize ackPU}HX as an ACK
so it keep repeating the "test" message until it times

out.


I was then trying with only UI-View32on both station"LC5VNA" and
"LA5VNA" and everything works fine. With only aprsis32 there

was absolutely no way of getting the stations to recognize the ACK's

Does anyone have a clue of was going on ?

If you want to try this , download latest ver of multipsk, but remember
to read the "ALE_and_ALE400_APRS_with_UI-

VIEW_through_Multipsk_easy.doc"
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16381257/MULTIPSK_TEST_16_05_2013.ZIP


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Re: Trying out a new mode with aprsis32 and multipsk in KISS on HF

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Please bring up Enables / View Logs / Port(<YourRFPort>) and enable it and do the message test again. I'm suspecting that something in the chain is mucking about with the curly brace inside the ack sequence which is the Reply-Ack protocol. This is supposed to be fully backward compatible (I've had many QSOs with UI-View users), so it must be something in the ALE/ARQ/MultiPSK chain that is introducing something strange.

If you also check Enables / Logging / File Enabled, then the trace from above will also go into your APRSIS32.LOG file that you can send on to KJ4ERJ@... with a reminder of what it is I'm looking at.

While you've got it all put together, try messaging back and forth with a UI-View station over the APRS-IS and/or standard packet just to show that the same configuration of the stations (outside of the RF path) truly does function. It's a case of "show what works" and then "what's different" must be the source of the problem.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS. Has anyone used MultiPSK's KISS mode for other APRS messaging? Is this even possible?

On 5/18/2013 7:56 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote:
Hi all ,I hope this is not to out of topic for this group.

As some of you probably know, 300b packet is not the best choice on HF,
but there are some alternatives.
One of them is ALE400 . ALE400 is ARQ mode in Multipsk.

I have made me a small lab testing out the ALE400/Multipsk software in
KISS with aprsis32 and UI-View32.

My lab is like this:

I am using to PCes simulating station "LA5VNA" and station "LC5VNA".
They are connecting together trough their mic's and they loudspeakers.

I was first testing out a combination of
Multipsk/KISS/UI-View32 on station "LA5VNA", and a combination of
Multipsk/KISS/aprsis32 on station "LC5VNA".

[Multipsk/KISS/UI-View32]<===mic's/loudspeakers==>[Multipsk/KISS/aprsis32]

Beaconing was working great form station "a" and "b". Both maps was
updated, but when trying the message function something

strange was happening.

When UI-View32 (station "LA5VNA") was sending a message like "test",
this appeared in the middle window of multipsk:
LA5VNA :LC5VNA :test{12

When aprsis32 (station"LC5VNA") was responding with an ack, this was
appearing in the
lower window of multipsk on station"LA5VNA" :

[End of TX] FAE APRS frame
LC5VNA :LA5VNA :ack12 [FAE APRS]
...KISS frame repeated

Station"LA5VNA" had got its ack and seems to be happy.


BUT, when aprsis32 (station"LC5VNA") was sending a "test" message,
thisappeared in the middle window of Multipsk:
LC5VNA :LA5VNA :test{PU}HX

When is UI-View32 (station "LA5VNA") was responding with an ack, this
was appearing in the
lower window of Multipsk on station"LC5VNA" :

[End of TX] FAE APRS frame
LA5VNA :LA5VNA :ackPU}HX [FAE APRS]
...KISS frame repeated


The aprsis32 (station"LC5VNA") seems not to recognize ackPU}HX as an ACK
so it keep repeating the "test" message until it times

out.


I was then trying with only UI-View32on both station"LC5VNA" and
"LA5VNA" and everything works fine. With only aprsis32 there

was absolutely no way of getting the stations to recognize the ACK's

Does anyone have a clue of was going on ?

If you want to try this , download latest ver of multipsk, but remember
to read the "ALE_and_ALE400_APRS_with_UI-

VIEW_through_Multipsk_easy.doc"
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16381257/MULTIPSK_TEST_16_05_2013.ZIP


LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq




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