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IGate expectations (was: password KB7STN)

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

If you read the IGate design details at http://www.aprs-is.net/IGating.aspx, it defines the functions of an IGate to be:

An IGate (Internet Gateway) has two functions: to pass all packets heard on RF to APRS-IS and to pass all message packets destined for local stations to RF (if a bidirectional IGate).

Note that that second function says "message packets" not all packets.  No IGate should indiscriminately pass all packet from the (nearly unlimited) bandwidth of the APRS-IS to the 1200 baud shared bandwidth of the RF channel.

http://www.aprs-is.net/IGateDetails.aspx details this further with:

Gate message packets and associated posits to RF if all of the following are true:

  1. the receiving station has been heard within range within a predefined time period (range defined as digi hops, distance, or both).
  2. the sending station has not been heard via RF within a predefined time period (packets gated from the Internet by other stations are excluded from this test).
  3. the sending station does not have TCPXX, NOGATE, or RFONLY in the header.
  4. the receiving station has not been heard via the Internet within a predefined time period.
    A station is said to be heard via the Internet if packets from the station contain TCPIP* or TCPXX* in the header or if gated (3rd-party) packets are seen on RF gated by the station and containing TCPIP or TCPXX in the 3rd-party header (in other words, the station is seen on RF as being an IGate).

But then further adds the option of:

Gate all packets to RF based on criteria set by the sysop (such as callsign, object name, etc.).

This final bit is what I'm working on in the current development version.  With it, you'll be able to specify APRS-IS style filters (http://www.aprs-is.net/javAPRSFilter.aspx) to select which additional packets are gated from -IS to RF.  But by default, IGates are only supposed to pass messages (and courtesy posits) addressed to stations that have been recently heard locally on RF.

If you're new to APRS messaging, you might also want to read http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:aprs-messaging-explained before trying to develop a bi-directional messaging test.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

PS.  I'm copying this to the Yahoo group and would appreciate moving this discussion there.  Others may have additional observations to add and/or be able to answer some of your queries.

On 11/24/2012 9:51 AM, Larry Overcast wrote:
Maybe I don't quite understand, but I had hoped that packet information received via IS that was coming from stations within the 2 hop distance would be gated.   The scroller has a continuous list of stations appearing, but I'm not getting any being sent to my HT.  

When I review the trace Igate log I don't see any IS to RF, only RF to IS.

For example:






Re: Frustration ensues- Any thoughts? I can't send/receive over RF with TT4

Jeffrey H
 

APRSIS32 SSID is KD0TNH-10, TT4 is KD0TNH-9 although I haven't configured the TT4 to beacon anything itself.

I thought the same at first. However, I put tape on the knob and was using the same xramp # that I was using yesterday when it worked. Strangely, I lowered both the volume and xramp by a lot to make it work today. I left it running for awhile and I saw it decoding packets in the terminal. Re-enabled KISS mode and turned the port back on and I see stations appearing on the left with the * which I understand to be indicative of an RF packet. The strong stations seem to be making it now but the weaker ones that I hear are causing the yellow light to flicker on the TT but nothing is appearing in APRSIS.

Now I'm back to the same problem I was originally trying to fix. Nobody was hearing me. I do see the red light on the TT4 and I see my radio go into transmit mode and "PACKET" appears on the display. Into a dummy load and on a simplex freq, I can hear the packet clearly in my handheld. I can send a message to my handheld and vice versa.
Reconnecting the antenna, I started at the lowest setting within calibrate and stepped it up 5 points at a time until I heard myself repeated. For the first time, I have seen an entry in aprs.fi in the stations that heard me section. But it's the only one and they are 10 miles away. I hope more appear.

I will keep an eye on it and see if it looks any better tomorrow.

Is there anything else I should be checking?

Thanks
Jeff

--- In aprsisce@..., "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Sounds to me like you mess up the volume on the radio and your TT4 isn't
decoding any more. Disable the port in APRSISCE/32 or close the client
and go back into your terminal emulator. Put the TT4 into TEXT mode and
see if you're decoding packets. Do the whole RXAMP/Volume tuning thing
again.

Once that is complete and you're SURE the TT4 is decoding what it hears,
put the TT4 back into KISS mode and fire up APRSISCE/32.

After that, verify that when you click Transmit, the TT4 red light comes
on and the radio actually transmits. If possible, listen on another
radio for a burst on 144.390 (or whatever frequency you're using) that
coincides with your APRSISCE/32 Transmits.

What is the TT4's MYCALL and what are you running for APRSIS32?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of ARPSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/23/2012 5:31 PM, Jeffrey H wrote:
I'm using a TinyTrak4 and a Yaesu mobile- 50 watts into a J-Pole in the attic. I'm 10 miles from downtown St. Louis. I seemed to receive fine on the RF port and I could exchange messages with my handheld. However, another member pointed out that no other stations saw me transmitting according to aprs.fi.

I begin to try fix that.
I found it odd that I was transmitting and being heard by my handheld but that nobody else could either hear or decode me. So I repeated the Calibrate/Monitor/Rxamp procedures. I also found a posting by Lynn recommending to turn off squelch and set the TT4 for CDLevel=Data.

Nothing is working for me now and I don't seem to be able to get back to even the partial working state that I was in before. I'm not receiving or transmitting.

Here are my settings:

XML File:
<!--RFPort[0]-->
<RFPort Name="KISS">
<Protocol>Simply(KISS)</Protocol>
<Device>COM1:19200,N,8,1</Device>
<RfBaud>1200</RfBaud>
<OpenCmd>~!!0</OpenCmd>
<CloseCmd>~!!0</CloseCmd>
<QuietTime>0</QuietTime>
<Enabled>1</Enabled>
<XmitEnabled>1</XmitEnabled>
<ProvidesNMEA>0</ProvidesNMEA>
<RFtoISEnabled>1</RFtoISEnabled>
<IStoRFEnabled>1</IStoRFEnabled>
<MyCallNot3rd>0</MyCallNot3rd>
<BeaconingEnabled>1</BeaconingEnabled>
<BeaconPath></BeaconPath>
<BulletinObjectEnabled>0</BulletinObjectEnabled>
<DXEnabled>0</DXEnabled>
<DXPath></DXPath>
<MessagesEnabled>0</MessagesEnabled>
<MessagePath></MessagePath>
<TelemetryEnabled>0</TelemetryEnabled>
<TelemetryPath></TelemetryPath>
<!--DigiXform-->
</RFPort>
<!--RFPort[0]-->


Enables Ports All and KISS checked
Configure Ports Kiss RFBaud is 1200 and Everything is checked but Me not 3rd.


TinyTrak:
Callsign: KD0TNH-10
AMODE KISS 19200 BMODE GPS 4800
Port A Mode Kiss Baud 19200
CHECKED- Send decoded packets to serial ports
CHECKED- Send generated packets to serial ports
Didn't mess with anything under Position as I don't have GPS attached

Packet:
Path Wide1-1 Wide2-1 (blank)
CD Mode: Tones
CD Level: 13
TX Level: 21
TX Twist: 50
RX AMP: 13


Log file shows:
Port(KISS):2012-11-23T22:23:19.163 KISS:Missing Leading C0[1]:?
Port(KISS):2012-11-23T22:23:21.535 KISS:Missing Leading C0[47]:<0D 0A>Press ESC 3 times to enter TT4 Options Menu<0D 0A>





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Re: Frustration ensues- Any thoughts? I can't send/receive over RF with TT4

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Sounds to me like you mess up the volume on the radio and your TT4 isn't decoding any more. Disable the port in APRSISCE/32 or close the client and go back into your terminal emulator. Put the TT4 into TEXT mode and see if you're decoding packets. Do the whole RXAMP/Volume tuning thing again.

Once that is complete and you're SURE the TT4 is decoding what it hears, put the TT4 back into KISS mode and fire up APRSISCE/32.

After that, verify that when you click Transmit, the TT4 red light comes on and the radio actually transmits. If possible, listen on another radio for a burst on 144.390 (or whatever frequency you're using) that coincides with your APRSISCE/32 Transmits.

What is the TT4's MYCALL and what are you running for APRSIS32?

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of ARPSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/23/2012 5:31 PM, Jeffrey H wrote:
I'm using a TinyTrak4 and a Yaesu mobile- 50 watts into a J-Pole in the attic. I'm 10 miles from downtown St. Louis. I seemed to receive fine on the RF port and I could exchange messages with my handheld. However, another member pointed out that no other stations saw me transmitting according to aprs.fi.

I begin to try fix that.
I found it odd that I was transmitting and being heard by my handheld but that nobody else could either hear or decode me. So I repeated the Calibrate/Monitor/Rxamp procedures. I also found a posting by Lynn recommending to turn off squelch and set the TT4 for CDLevel=Data.

Nothing is working for me now and I don't seem to be able to get back to even the partial working state that I was in before. I'm not receiving or transmitting.

Here are my settings:

XML File:
<!--RFPort[0]-->
<RFPort Name="KISS">
<Protocol>Simply(KISS)</Protocol>
<Device>COM1:19200,N,8,1</Device>
<RfBaud>1200</RfBaud>
<OpenCmd>~!!0</OpenCmd>
<CloseCmd>~!!0</CloseCmd>
<QuietTime>0</QuietTime>
<Enabled>1</Enabled>
<XmitEnabled>1</XmitEnabled>
<ProvidesNMEA>0</ProvidesNMEA>
<RFtoISEnabled>1</RFtoISEnabled>
<IStoRFEnabled>1</IStoRFEnabled>
<MyCallNot3rd>0</MyCallNot3rd>
<BeaconingEnabled>1</BeaconingEnabled>
<BeaconPath></BeaconPath>
<BulletinObjectEnabled>0</BulletinObjectEnabled>
<DXEnabled>0</DXEnabled>
<DXPath></DXPath>
<MessagesEnabled>0</MessagesEnabled>
<MessagePath></MessagePath>
<TelemetryEnabled>0</TelemetryEnabled>
<TelemetryPath></TelemetryPath>
<!--DigiXform-->
</RFPort>
<!--RFPort[0]-->


Enables Ports All and KISS checked
Configure Ports Kiss RFBaud is 1200 and Everything is checked but Me not 3rd.


TinyTrak:
Callsign: KD0TNH-10
AMODE KISS 19200 BMODE GPS 4800
Port A Mode Kiss Baud 19200
CHECKED- Send decoded packets to serial ports
CHECKED- Send generated packets to serial ports
Didn't mess with anything under Position as I don't have GPS attached

Packet:
Path Wide1-1 Wide2-1 (blank)
CD Mode: Tones
CD Level: 13
TX Level: 21
TX Twist: 50
RX AMP: 13


Log file shows:
Port(KISS):2012-11-23T22:23:19.163 KISS:Missing Leading C0[1]:?
Port(KISS):2012-11-23T22:23:21.535 KISS:Missing Leading C0[47]:<0D 0A>Press ESC 3 times to enter TT4 Options Menu<0D 0A>





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Frustration ensues- Any thoughts? I can't send/receive over RF with TT4

Jeffrey H
 

I'm using a TinyTrak4 and a Yaesu mobile- 50 watts into a J-Pole in the attic. I'm 10 miles from downtown St. Louis. I seemed to receive fine on the RF port and I could exchange messages with my handheld. However, another member pointed out that no other stations saw me transmitting according to aprs.fi.

I begin to try fix that.
I found it odd that I was transmitting and being heard by my handheld but that nobody else could either hear or decode me. So I repeated the Calibrate/Monitor/Rxamp procedures. I also found a posting by Lynn recommending to turn off squelch and set the TT4 for CDLevel=Data.

Nothing is working for me now and I don't seem to be able to get back to even the partial working state that I was in before. I'm not receiving or transmitting.

Here are my settings:

XML File:
<!--RFPort[0]-->
<RFPort Name="KISS">
<Protocol>Simply(KISS)</Protocol>
<Device>COM1:19200,N,8,1</Device>
<RfBaud>1200</RfBaud>
<OpenCmd>~!!0</OpenCmd>
<CloseCmd>~!!0</CloseCmd>
<QuietTime>0</QuietTime>
<Enabled>1</Enabled>
<XmitEnabled>1</XmitEnabled>
<ProvidesNMEA>0</ProvidesNMEA>
<RFtoISEnabled>1</RFtoISEnabled>
<IStoRFEnabled>1</IStoRFEnabled>
<MyCallNot3rd>0</MyCallNot3rd>
<BeaconingEnabled>1</BeaconingEnabled>
<BeaconPath></BeaconPath>
<BulletinObjectEnabled>0</BulletinObjectEnabled>
<DXEnabled>0</DXEnabled>
<DXPath></DXPath>
<MessagesEnabled>0</MessagesEnabled>
<MessagePath></MessagePath>
<TelemetryEnabled>0</TelemetryEnabled>
<TelemetryPath></TelemetryPath>
<!--DigiXform-->
</RFPort>
<!--RFPort[0]-->


Enables Ports All and KISS checked
Configure Ports Kiss RFBaud is 1200 and Everything is checked but Me not 3rd.


TinyTrak:
Callsign: KD0TNH-10
AMODE KISS 19200 BMODE GPS 4800
Port A Mode Kiss Baud 19200
CHECKED- Send decoded packets to serial ports
CHECKED- Send generated packets to serial ports
Didn't mess with anything under Position as I don't have GPS attached

Packet:
Path Wide1-1 Wide2-1 (blank)
CD Mode: Tones
CD Level: 13
TX Level: 21
TX Twist: 50
RX AMP: 13


Log file shows:
Port(KISS):2012-11-23T22:23:19.163 KISS:Missing Leading C0[1]:?
Port(KISS):2012-11-23T22:23:21.535 KISS:Missing Leading C0[47]:<0D 0A>Press ESC 3 times to enter TT4 Options Menu<0D 0A>


Re: Disabled or not

kc8sfq
 

Hi Lynn
Thanks again for the help. Sorry about the extra question. I was still playing with the program and just after I sent this question, I figured it out. But of course, it was too late to un-ask. Sorry for the un necessary static.

73, Ron

> Check Enables / Beaconing Enabled.


Re: need a password

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

This request has been satisfied privately.  To all others needing a passcode, please read:

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:passcode

And send requests to aprsisce-owner@..., not the group in general.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/23/2012 11:57 AM, red brown wrote:

This is Red - kb5ajh in fcc list Manuel Brown and they call for
for short ,,,, Need a password ....
   Thankyou for your Att :
   Red - kb5ajh


need a password

red brown
 

This is Red - kb5ajh in fcc list Manuel Brown and they call for
for short ,,,, Need a password ....
   Thankyou for your Att :
   Red - kb5ajh


Re: General purpose APRS mailing list?

Rob Giuliano
 

Tell that to those who at the ARRLwho do the product review.  They didn't seem to think it was worth mentioning.
 
To me it would be like selling an HT with the jack for an external mic.  Not absolutely necessary, but why would you buy a radio without it.  It provides options.
 
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


---------------------------------------------

From: Tony VE6MVP
To: aprsisce@...
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] General purpose APRS mailing list?
 
At 05:24 AM 2012-11-22, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:

Unlike the Kenwood APRS radios, Yaesu doesn't provide external access to the internal TNC.  The VX-8 family is completely internal while the FTM-350 at least will provide output of the decoded APRS packets.  None of the current Yaesu radios can transmit anything from a program unless you provide your own external TNC and do a standard audio/PTT connection to the radio.

Ahhh, wow.    I've happily used my D710 to send and receive Winlink 2000 emails.   T

To me serial port access to the TNC is so fundamental it wouldn't have occurred to me to even ask if it wasn't available.

Thanks, Tony


Security reminder

sbd sbd
 

The group is restricted on signup to cut down spammers, However it is publicly viewable.

Unless you have a phone number you can easily change, I think best not to include it in your signature or anywhere else for that matter.

 

Steve Daniels

Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

Torbay Freecycle  Owner

http://http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

 

 


Re: Disabled or not

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Check Enables / Beaconing Enabled.

The top line rotates the status of the various ports.  The second line shows the beaconing status.  There are also three thin progress bars at the bottom of that pane that show (from http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:screen-features)

There are also three colored bars below that text that indicate (top to bottom):
Transmit Pressure increasing left to right (Transmits when it gets to the right, see also last line)
APRS-IS Quiet Time - Increasing left to right, reconnects if it ever gets to the right
Transmit Throttle decreasing right to left (Counts down Min Time after beacon)

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of ARPSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 11/22/2012 3:06 PM, kc8sfq@... wrote:
Hi gang,

After poking about in the wiki for quite a while, I am still puzzled.

I finally have APRSIS32 recognizing my GPS set up as: ARGENT-puck to Byonics-Serial-USB adapter to Targus-multi-port dongle into the one USB port in the computer.

My observations: I have a message at the top of screen (wide mode) that says "NMEA OK" immediately below that in smaller type "Disabled". I am clearly receiving the birds, a whole flock of them. The signal strength of them varies as I move the puck around on the bench.

My question is this: What is disabled? (toggling Enables, GPS Enabled has no affect on this message)

Thanks and 73  Ron, KC8SFQ



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Re: New computer, new challanges

kc8sfq
 

Hi Greg, You Wrote
> ....... Pickett slide rule. Knowing how to use it made one a member of a select and secret society.

Kind of like CW

 I still have the one
> I got in college (10" bamboo).

I just went and looked at mine. It's 12" not 17". As with a lot of things as we age, It's not as big as I remember.

 Used it when taking my Advanced license
> test years ago, just because I could.

At least, you didn't have to flush the memory before the test

73 Ron KC8SFQ


Disabled or not

kc8sfq
 

Hi gang,

After poking about in the wiki for quite a while, I am still puzzled.

I finally have APRSIS32 recognizing my GPS set up as: ARGENT-puck to Byonics-Serial-USB adapter to Targus-multi-port dongle into the one USB port in the computer.

My observations: I have a message at the top of screen (wide mode) that says "NMEA OK" immediately below that in smaller type "Disabled". I am clearly receiving the birds, a whole flock of them. The signal strength of them varies as I move the puck around on the bench.

My question is this: What is disabled? (toggling Enables, GPS Enabled has no affect on this message)

Thanks and 73 Ron, KC8SFQ


Re: New computer, new challanges

Greg D
 


On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:10 PM, <kc8sfq@...> wrote:

I'm SO glad you do, That is what makes this program and this forum such a wonderful place. I have learned skills and undertaken projects that I never would have considered without all the help. Often what I am learning is rudimentary. My study of electronics pretty much stopped when the field effect transistor was the new, hot thing. One of the many reasons I am a welder and not an E.E. is the 17" Picket slide rule.

One of the reasons I went into computer engineering was the Pickett slide rule.  Learned how to use one in the 4th grade (if I recall), and thought it was the greatest piece of technology ever invented.  Knowing how to use it made one a member of a select and secret society.  I still have the one I got in college (10" bamboo).  Used it when taking my Advanced license test years ago, just because I could.

Now, if I could figure out all this GUI / Object Oriented stuff, I'd be all set.  To me, C++ means "increment C"...

Greg  KO6TH


Re: General purpose APRS mailing list?

Tony VE6MVP
 

At 05:24 AM 2012-11-22, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:

Unlike the Kenwood APRS radios, Yaesu doesn't provide external access to the internal TNC.  The VX-8 family is completely internal while the FTM-350 at least will provide output of the decoded APRS packets.  None of the current Yaesu radios can transmit anything from a program unless you provide your own external TNC and do a standard audio/PTT connection to the radio.

Ahhh, wow.    I've happily used my D710 to send and receive Winlink 2000 emails.   T

To me serial port access to the TNC is so fundamental it wouldn't have occurred to me to even ask if it wasn't available.

Thanks, Tony


Re: New computer, new challanges

kc8sfq
 

Hi Lynn,
You wrote:

> Have you cranked up the opacity? Right arrow with the map focused will
> increase opacity.

Yes, I usually run it wide open (right button 'til it quits) or sometimes one click to the left for the grid, I like that feature. I'm also real fond of the up/ down buttons for zoom.

> OSMArender is no more.

Too bad, I liked that one.

73 and thanks, KC8SFQ Ron


Re: New computer, new challanges

Adam Mahnke <kc2ant@...>
 

That's the one.

Sadly most of my replies are via my mobile, and I don't have aprsisce/32 in front of me to share settings.

Adam
KC2ANT

-----Original Message-----

From: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Sent: 22 Nov 2012 12:21:17 GMT
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] New computer, new challanges

 

Would that be the "Midnight Command" mentioned on the tile set page of the Wiki?

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/tile-sets

When discussing tile sets, it'd be helpful if you include the settings so that others can configure the same set.  But only, of course, if there's no private data like API keys in your access in which case you could provide a link of where to get your own key.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/21/2012 9:48 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
The map I use at night is called "midnight". It doesn't change any of the windows OS colors, but the map is easier on the night vision.


As for the drive letter, I've only found issues when dealing with NWS files, everything else normally works fine.

Adam
KC2ANT




-----Original Message-----

From: kc8sfq@...
Sent: 22 Nov 2012 01:43:39 GMT
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] New computer, new challanges

 


> I'm thinking if he gets a large flash drive (32G) he'd have more than
> enough room for any tiles, present and future, as well as not having to
> copy every time Lynn does an update.

I'm currently running on a 16G flash drive, and for the moment, that seems an elegant sufficiency. I don't have a lot of tiles on there yet. I want to change to a different rendering though, the original OSM doesn't have enough contrast to suit me. I seem to remember a rendering called Osmerender, or something like that, but have yet to find it again. I still need to find a subdued rendering for use at night as well. I remember that OSM had a lot of renderings, but when I went there last night I just found Original, Transport and Cycle map.

> If it were me, which it's not, I'd get the huge flash drive, plug it into
> a machine with internet, note the drive letter, make sure the version is
> up to date, do a bunch of panning, zooming, and prefetching of the tiles
> after turning purge off

I run the purger off almost all the time. If I went somewhere once, with very few exceptions, I'll probably go back and towns seldom move far enough that an older map is a big problem.

> and then take it to the internetless toughbook
> for use with the radio, and assign it the same drive letter.

I need to figure out how to assign a drive letter. I thought the computer did that. That's another question for my computer savy son. This weekend, there will be three generations of the family men at my son's house. Although, the four year old grand son will probably not be a lot of help with either car of computer projects.

> Do some searching through the yahoo group messages for the 'driving a gpx
> file' information, very handy when you know you're going somewhere new.

I'll go have a look, thanks.
 
> You can do the file copies, but IMHO it's easier, and faster to just leave
> everything on a dedicated flash drive

Yup, That looks like the hot setup to me too.

Thanks and 73  KC8SFQ  Ron



GPS virtual serial port Was: ftm-350 without GPS

Bob Burns W9RXR <w9rxr_@...>
 

At 06:45 AM 11/22/2012, Colin XSD wrote:

I think NMEA in/out would be a useful option...
I agree and I've mentioned it in this group before. That led to a discussion of virtual serial ports, but Lynn had hotter irons in the fire at the time.

The problem I have is that while mobile, I run both APRSIS/32 to interact with the APRS world through a Kenwood TM-D710 and I run a mapping program (Delorme TopoUSA). I have a GPSr connected to the D710 and the D710 is connected to a laptop computer. Lynn's fine program can read the GPS sentences coming through the D710 so it knows where it is. But, TopoUSA is in the dark. My current solution is to split the data line coming from the GPSr--one side goes to the D710 and the other side goes to a serial port and eventually to the computer.

But, if APRSIS/32 could pass the GPS sentences out to a virtual serial port in the Windows OS, I could eliminate having to electrically split the GPS data.

Bob...


Re: ftm-350 without GPS

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Copy that and I'll see what I can do when I finally get the time to dive into the port stuff.  Be aware, however, that every relay of 1200 baud serial data introduces delay, so don't set your expectations too high (unless you're headed to the top of a Wainwright...).

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/22/2012 6:45 AM, Colin XSD wrote:

Hi Lynn,

I think NMEA in/out would be a useful option, I could then use an HP iPaq as a straight swap for my Garmin 60CSx rather than having to swap cables over from the GPS to the PC port on the TH-D7 (something I have been known to either forget to do or get wrong when out in the Fells). I might also be able to persuade Liz to use her newly acquired TH-D7 with APRSISCE if it is just a matter of pluging the iPaq into the GPS Port the same as she would do with a GPS.


73,
Colin
M0XSD.

On 22/11/2012 01:26, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:
 

Does it support GPS In and APRS out as independent settings?  My suspicion is that it's an either/or mode, not a both/and.

Eventually I may put in some sort of GPS passthrough, but there's virtual serial drivers out there that will do that also with no modifications of my code, although there may be port sharing issues with that approach.  The only platform I see this being useful on is Windows Mobile where I can take the internal GPSapi feed and generate NMEA output.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile And Win32

On 11/21/2012 6:09 PM, Brian Evans wrote:
The radio does support GPS in via the serial link with newer firmware.  But you did answer my question.  Is there any plans on supporting GPS out to radios?

Thanks,
Brian
KJ6ZZY

--- On Wed, 11/21/12, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:

From: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] ftm-350 without GPS
To: aprsisce@...
Date: Wednesday, November 21, 2012, 2:59 PM

 

If you're asking for the GPS information to flow along the existing
serial cable to the FTM-350, I don't believe the radio supports that.
The FTM-350 is, IMHO, a very closed platform. We're lucky to be able to
get the decoded APRS packets out of it!

Besides, currently APRSISCE/32 doesn't provide any GPS data output.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ -Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/21/2012 5:36 PM, speedyguru2000 wrote:
> I have a laptop connected to a FTM-350 and APRSIS32 setup to plot the packets from the radio. My laptop gets GPS info from a bluetooth GPS. Is there a way for APRSIS32 to output the GPS information back to the FTM-350? I know the radio supports serial GPS info.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
> KJ6ZZY
>





Re: General purpose APRS mailing list?

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

And for FTM-350-related questions, there's a group for that too.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FTM-350R/

Unlike the Kenwood APRS radios, Yaesu doesn't provide external access to the internal TNC.  The VX-8 family is completely internal while the FTM-350 at least will provide output of the decoded APRS packets.  None of the current Yaesu radios can transmit anything from a program unless you provide your own external TNC and do a standard audio/PTT connection to the radio.

See also: http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/ftm350

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/22/2012 12:54 AM, Tony VE6MVP wrote:

Folks

What with the long term hibernation of the NWAPRS mailing list is there another general purpose APRS related mailing list?  I have some general questions to ask.  Such as I have a vague memory that the Yaesu FTM-350 has a serious shortcoming with respect to either APRS or Winlink 2000 but I can't recall what that shortcoming was or what keywords to use to search on it.

Tony


Re: New computer, new challanges

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

Would that be the "Midnight Command" mentioned on the tile set page of the Wiki?

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/tile-sets

When discussing tile sets, it'd be helpful if you include the settings so that others can configure the same set.  But only, of course, if there's no private data like API keys in your access in which case you could provide a link of where to get your own key.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 11/21/2012 9:48 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:

The map I use at night is called "midnight". It doesn't change any of the windows OS colors, but the map is easier on the night vision.


As for the drive letter, I've only found issues when dealing with NWS files, everything else normally works fine.

Adam
KC2ANT




-----Original Message-----

From: kc8sfq@...
Sent: 22 Nov 2012 01:43:39 GMT
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] New computer, new challanges

 


> I'm thinking if he gets a large flash drive (32G) he'd have more than
> enough room for any tiles, present and future, as well as not having to
> copy every time Lynn does an update.

I'm currently running on a 16G flash drive, and for the moment, that seems an elegant sufficiency. I don't have a lot of tiles on there yet. I want to change to a different rendering though, the original OSM doesn't have enough contrast to suit me. I seem to remember a rendering called Osmerender, or something like that, but have yet to find it again. I still need to find a subdued rendering for use at night as well. I remember that OSM had a lot of renderings, but when I went there last night I just found Original, Transport and Cycle map.

> If it were me, which it's not, I'd get the huge flash drive, plug it into
> a machine with internet, note the drive letter, make sure the version is
> up to date, do a bunch of panning, zooming, and prefetching of the tiles
> after turning purge off

I run the purger off almost all the time. If I went somewhere once, with very few exceptions, I'll probably go back and towns seldom move far enough that an older map is a big problem.

> and then take it to the internetless toughbook
> for use with the radio, and assign it the same drive letter.

I need to figure out how to assign a drive letter. I thought the computer did that. That's another question for my computer savy son. This weekend, there will be three generations of the family men at my son's house. Although, the four year old grand son will probably not be a lot of help with either car of computer projects.

> Do some searching through the yahoo group messages for the 'driving a gpx
> file' information, very handy when you know you're going somewhere new.

I'll go have a look, thanks.
 
> You can do the file copies, but IMHO it's easier, and faster to just leave
> everything on a dedicated flash drive

Yup, That looks like the hot setup to me too.

Thanks and 73  KC8SFQ  Ron


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