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Re: APRSISCE questions

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

On 6/6/2011 7:00 AM, apenadragon wrote:
3. There should be a delete button on the port configuration screen.
Sometimes the delete button may be disabled if the port is enabled. Disable the port, accept the changes, and go back into configure to delete the freshly disabled port.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


Re: lat ant long?

Beau <n9mfk@...>
 


are these the correct format to enter in the xml
if not what a good convert to use ?
39.706133
-89.631442
thanks Beau

On 6/6/2011 1:15 PM, Keehan Dowd wrote:

 

At about 11-06-06 12:02 PM, Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF whilst discussing "Re: [aprsisce] lat  ant long?", wrote the following:

 

Because 22 seconds is 0.37 minutes and 53 seconds is 0.89 minutes.

APRS expects (INT(degrees) X 100)+(INT(minutes))+(INT(seconds)/60)


It's important to be aware of this.  Decimal minutes is most common with APRS.  After yesterday's RCMP marathon event a few of us stayed around chatting to some rescue folks about exactly this point.  They said all they need is degrees, minutes (and perhaps seconds if you have it).  Degrees and minutes only will usually get them close enough to see the incident, but if you have all three numbers, that'll drop them right on the spot.  Of course they're adept enough to work with just about any standard you throw at them, however deg, min, sec will always be appreciated as the quickest and least thought intensive method of relaying co-ord's.

Regards,
Keehan - VE6XVK


Re: New computer, new problems (drat) [2 Attachments]

Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@...>
 

Another one to discover that Windows 7 is broken.
APRSIS needs to be installed in a directory directly under root, not it Program Files.

On 06-Jun-11 18:39, kc8sfq@... wrote:
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Hi gang:
I can't seem to get APRSIS32 to run on my win7 machine. I am also having trouble with Yahoo Groups. I can't get into
Yahoo groups, but I have downloaded APRSIS32 from the wiki. when I run the APRSIS-32 I get the sign in screen with
"NOCALL in the callsign block. So far, so good.
When I click the "ACCEPT" button it all goes south. I get a bar most of the way across the screen. This bar and any
windows on the screen begin flashing. I can close the other windows, but to get rid of the bar, I have to restart the
computer.

any help here greatly appreciated

Ron

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Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF 9H3GN), e-mail nigel@... www http://www.ngunn.net
Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385,
Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN, EAA382.


Re: New computer, new problems (drat)

kc8sfq
 



Hi gang:
I can't seem to get APRSIS32 to run on my win7 machine. I am also having trouble with Yahoo Groups. I can't get into Yahoo groups, but I have downloaded APRSIS32 from the wiki. when I run the APRSIS-32 I get the sign in screen with "NOCALL in the callsign block. So far, so good.
When I click the "ACCEPT" button it all goes south. I get a bar most of the way across the screen. This bar and any windows on the screen begin flashing. I can close the other windows, but to get rid of the bar, I have to restart the computer.

any help here greatly appreciated

Ron


Re: lat ant long?

Keehan Dowd
 

At about 11-06-06 12:02 PM, Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF whilst discussing "Re: [aprsisce] lat  ant long?", wrote the following:
 

Because 22 seconds is 0.37 minutes and 53 seconds is 0.89 minutes.

APRS expects (INT(degrees) X 100)+(INT(minutes))+(INT(seconds)/60)


It's important to be aware of this.  Decimal minutes is most common with APRS.  After yesterday's RCMP marathon event a few of us stayed around chatting to some rescue folks about exactly this point.  They said all they need is degrees, minutes (and perhaps seconds if you have it).  Degrees and minutes only will usually get them close enough to see the incident, but if you have all three numbers, that'll drop them right on the spot.  Of course they're adept enough to work with just about any standard you throw at them, however deg, min, sec will always be appreciated as the quickest and least thought intensive method of relaying co-ord's.

Regards,
Keehan - VE6XVK


Re: lat ant long?

apenadragon <kc2ant@...>
 

These are all the same coordinates just in different formats.

you're putting in Decimal Degree's, and APRSIS32 is showing you Degree and Minutes decimal.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/gpscoordconv.html

If you take the 3942.37N and make it look like 39 42.37N it will make more sense to your brain.

Adam
KC2ANT

--- In aprsisce@..., Beau <n9mfk@...> wrote:

Hi all
im have trouble with
lat an long
here what I put in 39.706133 (39° 42' 22'' N)

here what u put in-89.631442 (89° 37' 53'' W)

aprsis32 is showing 3942.37N -08937.89 w

how does the 22 be come 37 an 53 be come 89
thanks for any help
Beau


Re: lat ant long?

Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@...>
 

Not quite. The seconds, as all the other units, are already in base 10.

On 06-Jun-11 18:03, Brian Amos wrote:


There is no error. To convert from seconds to decimal minutes a change in base from base 60 (seconds) to base 10
(decimal minutes) is required. simply divide your seconds by 60 to get the decimal portion of the minutes. ie 22"/60
is .366666 and 53/60 is .88333

Brian


Re: lat ant long?

Brian Amos <bamos1@...>
 

There is no error. To convert from seconds to decimal minutes a change in base from base 60 (seconds) to base 10 (decimal minutes) is required.  simply divide your seconds by 60 to get the decimal portion of the minutes.  ie 22"/60 is .366666 and 53/60 is .88333

Brian


On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Beau <n9mfk@...> wrote:
 

Hi all
im have trouble with
lat an long
here what I put in 39.706133 (39° 42' 22'' N)

here what u put in-89.631442 (89° 37' 53'' W)

aprsis32 is showing 3942.37N -08937.89 w

how does the 22 be come 37 an 53 be come 89
thanks for any help
Beau



Re: lat ant long?

Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@...>
 

Because 22 seconds is 0.37 minutes and 53 seconds is 0.89 minutes.

APRS expects (INT(degrees) X 100)+(INT(minutes))+(INT(seconds)/60)

On 06-Jun-11 17:50, Beau wrote:
Hi all
im have trouble with
lat an long
here what I put in 39.706133 (39 42' 22'' N)

here what u put in-89.631442 (89 37' 53'' W)

aprsis32 is showing 3942.37N -08937.89 w

how does the 22 be come 37 an 53 be come 89
thanks for any help
Beau


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Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF 9H3GN), e-mail nigel@... www http://www.ngunn.net
Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385,
Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN, EAA382.


Re: APRSISCE questions

apenadragon <kc2ant@...>
 

If that's the case then I'd start looking at your TNC and COM port settings for talking to the D72. I'm not the one to help you with that as I don't have that particular Radio.

Adam
KC2ANT

--- In aprsisce@..., "dj2nl@..." <chris@...> wrote:

Adam,
Thanks for your answers,
The system works fine with APRS.fi and shows up there.

Chris
DJ2NL

--- In aprsisce@..., "apenadragon" <kc2ant@> wrote:

Read through the Wiki for these

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/

It sounds like you need to tweak your port settings, and make sure that your D72 is set up properly, can't help with that I don't have one.

1. When you press transmit there is no response from the radio, or from APRSIS32? are you not showing up on APRS.fi? elaborate please.

3. There should be a delete button on the port configuration screen.

4. you drag the map around until the center is where you are, press transmit and it will lock your icon there.

5. TNC's have to be on in order for the computer to talk to them.

6. ^^ the Link above.


Good luck,
Adam
KC2ANT

--- In aprsisce@..., "dj2nl@" <chris@> wrote:

I try to install an iGate with a Kenwood TH-D72 and the APRSISCE program but till now I did not manage to get any reading of my position on the map.
I configure everything according instructions of G4ILO site.I think my rig is not communicating with the PC.
I do have some more questions:
1)When I press Transmit there is no response
Only on the top of the program the time announcement changes in FORCE or FIRST
What does this mean?
2)What is the green and red (changing) bar for?
3)How can I delete a once configured extra com-port?
4)How do I get my callsign shown on my home position ?
5) Do I have to turn the TNC on my Kenwood on or off?
6) Where do I find a help file for the program?

Thanks,
Chris
DJ2NL



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lat ant long?

Beau <n9mfk@...>
 

Hi all
im have trouble with
lat an long
here what I put in 39.706133 (39 42' 22'' N)

here what u put in-89.631442 (89 37' 53'' W)

aprsis32 is showing 3942.37N -08937.89 w

how does the 22 be come 37 an 53 be come 89
thanks for any help
Beau


Re: APRSISCE/32 getting a real workout.

Fred Hillhouse
 

"and loss of a couple dozen of runner numbers."
 
After loading objects, etc, it is good to restart. This will cause the XML to save. In the case of a PC crash, the XML would not be saved which would require reloading data.
 
Sounds like a successful event in spite of the high driver! ;)
 
Best regards,
Fred



From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Keehan Dowd
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 18:33
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 getting a real workout.

 

At about 11-06-05 03:24 PM, James Ewen whilst discussing "Re: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 getting a real workout.", wrote the following:

 

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Greg Dolkas <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:

> The only one I am curious about is how VE6XVK-10 got up to
> 398 MPH.  He's going to win the race for sure.

Keehan has been reporting erroneously high speeds all day. I'll have
to pester him about that later.


Didn't I tell you.... I got a nitrous kit fitted to the Dodge Caravan.   You should see my 8 ft long ham-tenna at 398 MPH!

I don't quite know what was going on.  My -10 instance derives it's GPS signal from a Telus EvDO internet stick with GPS and it was tied to my roof-rack.  It's a Sierra Wireless Compass 597U.  All day it's been acting funny and was jumping around when I was stationary and that's probably where the 398MPH came from.  VE6XVK-9 is my TT4 with the Byonics GPS puck.  It was rock-solid as far as I know.

Today's exercise with APRSISCE/32 went well.  I was messaging runner numbers to the finish line from my position at the 1/2 way mark and there was another station at 1 kilometre out from the finish line doing the same thing.  We had portable trackers in some of the EMS units and other support vehicles.  The net control station was watching those and several other mobile stations in real time via RF only.  There was one small hitch where the laptop at 1 klm from the finish line had a flaky power issue that caused (what the operator called) a crash of APRSISCE/32 requiring a complete reboot and loss of a couple dozen of runner numbers.

Other than that, all were impressed.  At the BBQ afterwards we loosely threw some ideas around and it was mentioned that a text-based data import-export would be real nice.  Something like an-RFID reader or keyboard entry of runner numbers going into the message channel and then being able to be exported out to a serial device at the other end for displaying on a board, etc...

Regards,
Keehan.



Re: APRSISCE questions

Chris de Voogd v/d Straaten
 

Adam,
Thanks for your answers,
The system works fine with APRS.fi and shows up there.

Chris
DJ2NL

--- In aprsisce@..., "apenadragon" <kc2ant@...> wrote:

Read through the Wiki for these

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/

It sounds like you need to tweak your port settings, and make sure that your D72 is set up properly, can't help with that I don't have one.

1. When you press transmit there is no response from the radio, or from APRSIS32? are you not showing up on APRS.fi? elaborate please.

3. There should be a delete button on the port configuration screen.

4. you drag the map around until the center is where you are, press transmit and it will lock your icon there.

5. TNC's have to be on in order for the computer to talk to them.

6. ^^ the Link above.


Good luck,
Adam
KC2ANT

--- In aprsisce@..., "dj2nl@" <chris@> wrote:

I try to install an iGate with a Kenwood TH-D72 and the APRSISCE program but till now I did not manage to get any reading of my position on the map.
I configure everything according instructions of G4ILO site.I think my rig is not communicating with the PC.
I do have some more questions:
1)When I press Transmit there is no response
Only on the top of the program the time announcement changes in FORCE or FIRST
What does this mean?
2)What is the green and red (changing) bar for?
3)How can I delete a once configured extra com-port?
4)How do I get my callsign shown on my home position ?
5) Do I have to turn the TNC on my Kenwood on or off?
6) Where do I find a help file for the program?

Thanks,
Chris
DJ2NL



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Re: APRSISCE questions

apenadragon <kc2ant@...>
 

Read through the Wiki for these

http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/

It sounds like you need to tweak your port settings, and make sure that your D72 is set up properly, can't help with that I don't have one.

1. When you press transmit there is no response from the radio, or from APRSIS32? are you not showing up on APRS.fi? elaborate please.

3. There should be a delete button on the port configuration screen.

4. you drag the map around until the center is where you are, press transmit and it will lock your icon there.

5. TNC's have to be on in order for the computer to talk to them.

6. ^^ the Link above.


Good luck,
Adam
KC2ANT

--- In aprsisce@..., "dj2nl@..." <chris@...> wrote:

I try to install an iGate with a Kenwood TH-D72 and the APRSISCE program but till now I did not manage to get any reading of my position on the map.
I configure everything according instructions of G4ILO site.I think my rig is not communicating with the PC.
I do have some more questions:
1)When I press Transmit there is no response
Only on the top of the program the time announcement changes in FORCE or FIRST
What does this mean?
2)What is the green and red (changing) bar for?
3)How can I delete a once configured extra com-port?
4)How do I get my callsign shown on my home position ?
5) Do I have to turn the TNC on my Kenwood on or off?
6) Where do I find a help file for the program?

Thanks,
Chris
DJ2NL



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APRSISCE questions

Chris de Voogd v/d Straaten
 

I try to install an iGate with a Kenwood TH-D72 and the APRSISCE program but till now I did not manage to get any reading of my position on the map.
I configure everything according instructions of G4ILO site.I think my rig is not communicating with the PC.
I do have some more questions:
1)When I press Transmit there is no response
Only on the top of the program the time announcement changes in FORCE or FIRST
What does this mean?
2)What is the green and red (changing) bar for?
3)How can I delete a once configured extra com-port?
4)How do I get my callsign shown on my home position ?
5) Do I have to turn the TNC on my Kenwood on or off?
6) Where do I find a help file for the program?

Thanks,
Chris
DJ2NL



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Re: APRSIS32 I-gate questions

Richard Johnson <rjjohn60@...>
 

Thanks Alan,

I re-did the xml file tonight as James recommended except I did NOT put FULLDUP ON. The setup seems to work better now.

I have run this setup through several power fail scenarios multiple times and it always recovers. The controlling PC is a Laptop so it normally stays running (with the cover closed) even during a power failure. I have killed the radio, the TNC, and both together and it always comes back up automatically. I have also pulled the serial cable for a minute or two, reinserted it, and the system automatically recovers. Yesterday we had Tornado come through and lost power for almost 3 hours. The whole system recovered automatically. I've also tested a 1/2 hour internet loss. Again it recovered with no problems.

What I will not be able to recover from is a total power failure that lasts longer than the battery life of the laptop. To extend the battery life I have installed a second battery in place of the CD drive. There is all kinds of back up power at this site since it services several cell phone companies, a wire less ISP and a bunch of other commercial microwave and VHF / UHF stuff. I can not get on their UPSs but I am covered by the site back up diesel generator so I should be OK.

I also was very concerned on the length of the RS-232 cable. It is way beyond specs but since the old system worked OK with the same model TNC up on the tower, I am assuming this one will also work. I did slow down the serial port from 19,200 which the old system was running to 9,600 for this one.

I realize this is a strange setup but this is what I have to work with and the site is basically free to me.

The idea of getting to the TNC over the radio was just something I thought of in case this one should go dead down the serial cable like the existing one has. The existing one ran for almost 3 years and until it comes down off of tower the I really do not know what failed. I probably should just forget about talking to it over the air. I was just down in the basement getting parts together to make a cable for this Open Tracker-USB to try it. While using it sounds good, I know of several of these OT+s that have died and needed to be repaired. I'm thinking I would rather have the better reliability of the KPC unit and forget trying to talk to it over the air if the PC link dies.

Yes, I have remote console capability to control the PC over the Internet. I'm using TeamViewer version 6. I chose it because I can put it in the startup and get it to automatically start on power up without any keyboard intervention.

I do not want to digi from there. It makes no sense to me to do that and add additional traffic on the frequency. Before I send it up there for final installation, I also intend to double the beacon interval time to further reduce it's impact on the frequency.

Thanks for the input. I appreciate all the help I can get.

Ken N9KB

In aprsisce@..., "Alan" <alan@...> wrote:


I run a Mountain top I-gate simular to what you want to do.

I use a KPC TNC in Kiss mode, and APRSIS32. I run a bunch of Digis and I-gates, and have never had a problem with KPC TNC's locking up, probably the most reliable for remote use.

I Have remote access to the I-gate computer via RealVNC (There are several other good free remote software programs available)

Once, a while back APRSIS32 crashed without sending the converse command to get out of KISS mode. This was no problem since I had a terminal program that I remotely opened and sent the exit KISS command manually. You could also just restart APRSIS32 and exit out again to return to converse mode. It will throw some errors, but it will start humming along again.

The manual KPC keyboard exit KISS command is:
With the KPC in KISS mode, hold down the "ALT" key then enter the 1st group of numbers from the numeric keys on the right side of the keyboard. Enter "0192". release the ALT, then hold down "ALT" again while entering the next set of numbers "0255", same ALT routine again "0192", then it should reset the KPC, to normal mode.

(hold down "ALT", "0192", release ALT, hold "ALT" "0255", release ALT, hold "ALT" "0192", release ALT). It only works with keyboards that have numeric keys.

If your old existing setup is still powered up, you might try the same exit KISS trick. Or at least try all baud rates to see if you can talk to it, (1200,2400,4800,9600.19200), to see if it is still working.

I would be concerned with the serial cable length, but if it worked before, it must be some good rated shielded CAT 5, or better.

If you live in an area that already has several digis around, and a fair amount of RF traffic, I wouldn't even setup digi mode. Why spew out stale stuff on RF that you just sent to the internet?

As an I-gate only, with two-way messaging, mine sends around 50K packets to APRSIS a month. This number would be way lower if it were busy spewing stale packets 24/7 back on the RF channel.

My Mtn. I-gate doesn't Digi at all, unless it drops out of KISS. If the computer was to gracefully shut down, APRSIS32 will exit politely, and the KPC is put back into converse mode, and then it begins to Digi as an "S" Digi. A special beacon is sent out "I-gate computer is down".

One thing I spent a lot of time getting straight was disabling updates, auto login's, and no halts. I brut force yanked the plug on everything many times to work out all the restart problems. This saved several trips, it's a mountain that is sometimes inaccessible.

The Full-duplex command in KPC's is for full duplex configuration, like if you were using two frequencies, an input and output frequency. I don't know why several folks recommend putting it into fulldup. It doesn't seam to matter in KISS, as with most of the extra commands in the into KISS and exit string.

Sounds like a neat project, have fun!
Alan
n6vud


Re: APRSIS32 I-gate questions

Alan Judd
 

I run a Mountain top I-gate simular to what you want to do.

I use a KPC TNC in Kiss mode, and APRSIS32. I run a bunch of Digis and I-gates, and have never had a problem with KPC TNC's locking up, probably the most reliable for remote use.

I Have remote access to the I-gate computer via RealVNC (There are several other good free remote software programs available)

Once, a while back APRSIS32 crashed without sending the converse command to get out of KISS mode. This was no problem since I had a terminal program that I remotely opened and sent the exit KISS command manually. You could also just restart APRSIS32 and exit out again to return to converse mode. It will throw some errors, but it will start humming along again.

The manual KPC keyboard exit KISS command is:
With the KPC in KISS mode, hold down the "ALT" key then enter the 1st group of numbers from the numeric keys on the right side of the keyboard. Enter "0192". release the ALT, then hold down "ALT" again while entering the next set of numbers "0255", same ALT routine again "0192", then it should reset the KPC, to normal mode.

(hold down "ALT", "0192", release ALT, hold "ALT" "0255", release ALT, hold "ALT" "0192", release ALT). It only works with keyboards that have numeric keys.

If your old existing setup is still powered up, you might try the same exit KISS trick. Or at least try all baud rates to see if you can talk to it, (1200,2400,4800,9600.19200), to see if it is still working.

I would be concerned with the serial cable length, but if it worked before, it must be some good rated shielded CAT 5, or better.

If you live in an area that already has several digis around, and a fair amount of RF traffic, I wouldn't even setup digi mode. Why spew out stale stuff on RF that you just sent to the internet?

As an I-gate only, with two-way messaging, mine sends around 50K packets to APRSIS a month. This number would be way lower if it were busy spewing stale packets 24/7 back on the RF channel.

My Mtn. I-gate doesn't Digi at all, unless it drops out of KISS. If the computer was to gracefully shut down, APRSIS32 will exit politely, and the KPC is put back into converse mode, and then it begins to Digi as an "S" Digi. A special beacon is sent out "I-gate computer is down".

One thing I spent a lot of time getting straight was disabling updates, auto login's, and no halts. I brut force yanked the plug on everything many times to work out all the restart problems. This saved several trips, it's a mountain that is sometimes inaccessible.

The Full-duplex command in KPC's is for full duplex configuration, like if you were using two frequencies, an input and output frequency. I don't know why several folks recommend putting it into fulldup. It doesn't seam to matter in KISS, as with most of the extra commands in the into KISS and exit string.

Sounds like a neat project, have fun!
Alan
n6vud

--- In aprsisce@..., "Richard Johnson" <rjjohn60@...> wrote:

I just remembered the second question.

In your recommended settings in my xml file for the 9612 you have FULL DUPLEX ON?. Since this is an I-Gate and not a digi-peater, do I really want this on. If I set this on then the TNC can transmit over others on the frequency when sending beacons or any IS to RF traffic.

Ken


Re: APRSIS32 I-gate questions

Richard Johnson <rjjohn60@...>
 

I just remembered the second question.

In your recommended settings in my xml file for the 9612 you have FULL DUPLEX ON?. Since this is an I-Gate and not a digi-peater, do I really want this on. If I set this on then the TNC can transmit over others on the frequency when sending beacons or any IS to RF traffic.

Ken


Re: APRSIS32 I-gate questions

Richard Johnson <rjjohn60@...>
 

Thanks Adam and James.

I've been sawing and moving blown down trees from the storm with my JD tractor all day so I and haven't got to looking at this. I also fixed my garage door opener (I think). I did not install the motorcycle tire and my daughter called this afternoon with a bad transmission. No 3rd gear so I'll have to go tow it back tomorrow. Do not ever retire. You will never have enough time to get everything done.

I'll probably have to build a cable between the OT and the FT-1500M first. I haven't looked at the pin outs yet for the 9612 vs. the OT. If they are the same I'll reuse the 9612 cable. Knowing my luck they probably not the same. I'll try to make the .xml changes you recommended later tonight.

I really appreciate all of the help you are giving me. Other than to install a few trackers in some vehicles, I haven't messed with packet since the late 1980's.

I have a couple more questions:

What decides which interface beacons are sent out on? RF, IS, or both. I have managed to get APRSIS32 to do all three of the above and I do not know what controls this. The beacon interface appears to change depending on what order I enable the interfaces. Keep in mind I have not made the recommended xml changes yet.

I forgot what the second question was. I'll remember later.

Ken- N9KB


wrote:


That's the opposite of what Ken wants. You have the TNC in KISS mode
continually. Ken wants the TNC to drop out of KISS mode if the
connectivity to the computer drops out.
I understand that, I'm just saying that this is what gets APRSIS32 talking to a KPC 9612.


again, I've got Remote access to the PC and therefore the TNC via
TightVNC password protected access.
Ken can have direct keyboard access to the computer as it is on the
ground... it's remote access to the TNC that is the 350 foot issue.
If he can remote to the PC, that has a serial cable to the TNC, then he has remote access to the TNC.


I don't have the OTA functionality that you're looking for, and I'm
not sure that APRSIS32 supports having both at this time.
APRSISCE/32 is not the component that would need to support the
over-the-air access... that's a function of the TNC itself. Once into
KISS mode, the TNC will not respond to OTA commands. Kind of like the
Kenwoods not putting information up on the screen when in packet mode.
Turn off all the smarts inside the unit and it stops doing all the
nifty things you want it to do.
I was referring to the fact that APRSIS32 won't allow the TNC to function stand alone, and still decode stuff to function as an IGate. I know it's a function of how the TNC works, however if APRSIS32 were to support CONV mode (I know it's on the to do list) then it would be ideal (as I understand it)... Patience is a virtue is kind of what I was getting at.



The OpenTracker line from Argent Data Systems however will keep their
smarts running and support KISS at the same time. Ken has a couple in
hand, so it's a good time to try them out!

Agreed, if he has a TNC that fits his needs then he should go that direction, and my idiotic ramblings can simply be more support that a 9612 is not the ideal TNC for what he wants to accomplish.


Adam
KC2ANT


Ghost PHG info

apenadragon <kc2ant@...>
 

Hey all,

I'm starting to see on a few instances of APRSIS32 some MASSIVE PHG circles. I started looking at stations and asking them about it, and they didn't reply, go figure.

Tonight I saw it on my object coming from my home station... I verified that my object had no PHG information in it, but when clicking on the object and looking at the information it was showing PHG data for 36W 320ft with a 5DB Omni...

I double checked my object, and it was not tx any such information to go with it...

anyone else seeing this?


Adam
KC2ANT