Re: Minor details.

Fred Hillhouse

Hi Lynn,
Assuming your map engine is reusable, whether you use the Mapnik tiles or Cycle Map tiles or Osmarender it should be transparent except for storage space. By allowing the user the option they can make the decision whether there is too much clutter or not and whether or not there is not enough tiles. I myself would use the Cycle Maps immediately.
In two packages I have run, when a tile is not available or there is a server error, they fill it in with a homemade tile that might be just a X from corner to corner. Or they just leave the space blank. Then when the user re-visits the area when running a separate instance, it tries for the tile again. In the case of APRSCIS32, you use an adjacent zoom tile. I suspect that would be fine.
Again, in the other map packages, there are key sequences to switch between map sources. And, whatever map type was up at shutdown is what is used again at startup.
Over time, I suspect more topo maps will become available. I don't know how to request rendering of tiles yet. I have been looking but not been successful.
Until you arrive at a plan, I will be patient, like a kid in a candy store. ;)
Enjoy you time with the kids! Mine isn't coming home for break. :( She is the one in Arkansas.
Best regards,

From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:17
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: Minor details.


Just play around with the SlippyMap browser at with Cycle Map selected on the upper right
corner and you'll see why I don't have that as a publicized option. WAY
too many chunks of the country that simply disappear into white tiles
when you zoom in. Just SW of Winston Salem in the Carolinas as well as
the East Coast of Florida just don't seem to exist at the lower levels
of Cycle Map.

I also discounted Osmarender due to the density of "stuff" on the map.
The APRS stations just got lost in the clutter.

I'll see about providing configuration assistance to switch the tile
server and URLs to these various options, but I'll be keeping Mapnik as
the default option.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Fred Hillhouse wrote:
> > > I remember that now! Cycle map doesn't zoom very close
> > Hmm, you can zoom in as close as Mapnik... I don't have tiles rendered
> right down to the full zoom in my area. Cycle Map renders tiles as
> requested by the users. If no one has asked for the tiles, you'll zoom
> in, and see blanks, but give it a bit, and the tiles will be rendered.
> Do they get rendered on the fly or is it done through some sort of
> communication?
> This would be a sweet option! That would be my default. There is
> something about contours that are just plain attractive.
> > > and is rather
> > > boring in Florida. The hazards of where I live!
> > Well, not much I can do about that. Even in my area, there's not a lot
> of interesting appeal, but there are areas where I would like to have
> the topo information as part of the map. I'd rather have the Cycle Map
> as the tiles for use in RadioMobile, as RadioMobile is all about 3D
> propagation modelling.
> When I lived in Utah I bought every 7min map of the Moab area and
> several other areas I visited. I have a large collection of paper.

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