Re: Igates and their use of digi paths
Glenn O'Connor
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From: APRSISCE@groups.io <APRSISCE@groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Depew
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:56 AM To: APRSISCE@groups.io Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Igates and their use of digi paths
What I'm saying is there is no network around me except me! That digi 30 miles away sometimes can't get into the network either and may disappear for hours or sometimes days from being on the maps. Unfortunately I don't have the money nor the locations to be able to put up a high level digi like needs to be. For now I'm it.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: James Ewen <ve6srv@...> Date: 6/21/20 02:40 (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Igates and their use of digi paths
While true the nearest permanent digi near me is 30 miles away and a mobile can't hit it unless it's about 15 miles away. I can't even reliably get into any of the digis in the area with the home station.
So what you are describing is an area with no digipeater coverage. This is not a location for a fill-in digipeater, this area needs a full digipeater.
A station operating in this area will not be able to participate in APRS operations on the digipeater network as there is no digipeater network in the area. A fill-in digipeater acts as a one way booster in the digipeater network. It will only ever act upon the first path element of a packet. If you put a fill-in digipeater into an area that is not covered by a main digipeater, then there is no way for any traffic (position reports, or more importantly messages) to get back into the area.
Stations should never use WIDE1-1 anywhere other than as the first element in their outgoing path. Anyone wanting to get information back to station that only has a fill-in digipeater within range from an area 2 digits away would be forced to use WIDE1–1 As a second path element, which we all know is a very bad thing to do.
Build the network properly and APRS works great. Build it incorrectly and you can have something that is a waste of time, effort, money, and just generally makes people resort to trying stupid things that cause more problems for everyone.
James VE6SRV
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:12 PM Greg Depew <goatherder_4891@...> wrote:
-- James
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