Re: Path lines

Greg Depew

No -5 is a separate igate about 10 mi away from 1 and 15 running XP. 1 and 15 are on the same computer running win7. 13 is on my win8 machine. 1, 15, and 13 all connect to the same agw on the win7 machine. 5 was receiving directly and was first a couple of times to get it to the IS as per APRS.FI. 1,15 and 13 only heard it direct a few times and only 13 gated it. And the paths of both the balloon and 5 did not show between the two.
Hope that clears things abit.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:39:11
To: <>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines

Ah, NOW I think I get what was going on.  Let's see if I have this right:

-5 was receiving the balloon directly via RF and gating to the APRS-IS

-15 was also receiving the balloon on the same radio (thanks to AGW),
but was also receiving an APRS-IS feed

-15 didn't show any paths between the balloon and -5.  This is to be
expected as -15 only knows what -5 is receiving via the APRS-IS.  And if
-5 wasn't the first station to gate any of the packets, then no paths
would show.

If you want -15 to show RF paths for -5 without the APRS-IS dupe filter
messing you up, then you need to set up a Local Server port on -5 and
connect to it from -15.  That way -15 will see everything that -5 sees
from RF with the appropriate ,qAR construct because the Local Server
function in APRSISCE/32 doesn't do any dupe filtering.

Since -15 is connected to the same radio as -5, it'd be far easier just
to look at the paths from the balloon to the local -15 since they'll
reflect the same paths as seen by -5 on its own local screen.

This is yet another instance where you cannot use the APRS-IS to
evaluate what's happening in the RF world.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/17/2013 2:32 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
-1 and 15 are on the same computer, and all 3 share the same radio. I'm in an rf hole so I can't really hear anything. The path lines in question are from looking at -15 mutitracking -5 which at this time is a rx only igate at my dads. I confirmed by ?dx and ?aprsh that it was indeed hearing the balloon. -15 was not showing the path lines between -5 and the balloon.
Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano <>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:53:40
To: <>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path lines


If I read what you are saying correctly, you are looking at a TCP/IP feed for RF path lines?
-1   RF radio
-13  RF radio - same physical radio
-15  server - no RF, but full feed
            "... I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither ..."
     Or are you trying to see "Tracks" from station movements?
My instance is configured to draw a line connecting the TX station with my station through DIGI's - indicating the "PATH" the packet took.  I have not seen such LINES on an IS only feed.
     MENU >Screen >PATH >RFONLY
       This seems to take precedence and turns OFF any other option
         [like MENU >Screen >PATH >Netwrok(LINKS)]
Any instance I have running (including Multitracks) will show TRACKS that are lines connecting multiple points received.
I assume you are using the same terminology, but I would check the note about precedence of RFONLY.  That could be set???
Robert Giuliano

From: Greg Depew <>
To: "" <>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Fw: [aprsisce] Path lines

Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comDate: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:43:18 To: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)&lt;>Reply-To: goatherder_4891@hotmail.comSubject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesI have only one radio at my current residence and run my home station -1 that is my digi and qru server, and I also run -15 on the same machine which is my world feed. -13 is on a different computer and is networked to the same radio.&nbsp; I was trying to look at the lines on my full feed -15 neither one was showing up on a multitrack of -5 or the balloon.
   I did remote login on teamviewer to -5 and it did show the balloon as being heard. Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <;Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:23:18 To: <>Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Path linesWhy do you have three IGates running against (I suspect) a single agw instance?&nbsp; That's got to muddy the waters, especially since you didn't say which station you're trying to look a the paths on.Is what I see from here.&nbsp; What Times option do you have selected? The shot above is with Times of Long or 30 minutes.Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32On
   10/16/2013 6:59 PM, Greg Depew wrote:> Lynn and group, I have a question about path lines. Right now the balloon ATHER4-1 is up and is being copied directly by my rx only igate KB3KBR-5, but both the path lines in my full feed -15 do not show in either the multi tracks of the balloon or my igate nor in the main window. I have the times set to all and everything but rf only checked. Am I missing something? Thanks.> Greg KB3KBR Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry>>>> ------------------------------------>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:&nbsp; &nbsp;;lt;*&amp;gt; Your email settings:&nbsp; &nbsp; Individual Email |
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