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Anthropogeny.net Will the AAT-group ignore the Bioko-hypothesis, just as paleoanthropologists ignore the AAT?
Please read the arguments for the Bioko-version of AAT at anthropogeny.net and the two articles linked there. And then let's discuss Bioko.
AAT will not go away, and neither will the Bioko version of AAT. I hope that the AAT-Group does not reject the Bioko version for being too unorthodox, too speculative, not supported by fossil evidence, etc. We have heard similar reasons for ignoring the AAT. Let's discuss the pros and cons of the Bioko-version. Thanks! Allan Krill AquaticApe.net |
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Mario Petrinovic <mario.petrinovic1@...>
But, there is not much difference from my version, where I am taking the Afar region as being barren volcanic. This is the same theory. There is another similarity, Bioko is on Cameroon Line, which is also rift, but this one is older than the rift in East Africa. Apes emerged at the time of formation of rift that is in East Africa. So, you are, basically, saying the same thing as me, only I am giving additional arguments for living on cliffs. So, if you compare Afar and Bioko, Afar is the same
thing, only it has more arguments.
On 30.3.2020. 20:48, Allan Krill wrote:
Please read the arguments for the Bioko-version of AAT at anthropogeny.net and the two articles linked there. And then let's discuss Bioko. |
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IMO we already know one of the locations: Dubois found his Javanese fossil in a river delta, it had pachyosteosclerosis, platycephaly & a dorso-ventrally flattened femur, exactly what AAT needed: a Pleistocene littoral human ancestor ("aquatic ape", a term of Desmond Morris, is misleading IMO). IMO most Miocene pongids & hominids lived in coastal & flooded forests along the Tethys coasts. Late-Miocene aquarboreal hominids from the Tethys coastal forests entered Africa along the Nile or the Lybian shallow seas, they colonized the wetlands of the 2 great forests in Africa (Jon.Kingdon): 1) Gorilla stayed behind in the swamps of central forest Nile-Chad-Rift-Congo, 2) Homo-Pan went further to the coastal forest along the Zambesi mouth. They evolved in parallel (alloatrically): gracile - robust - apelike Pliocene - Pleistocene - today 1) afarensis - boisei - gorillas 2) africanus - robustus - chimps. IOW, thinner enamel, longer canines, longer iliac blades, less iliac flaring, less orthogrady, more monkey-like feet etc. evolved in parallel in today's gorillas // chimpanzees. This seems difficult to understand for many people, but it's simple Darwinism: adaptations in comparable milieus to the same climatic changes. Homo after the H/P split colonized the Ind.Ocean coastal forests, and when Pleistocene sea-levels dropped, vast territories (tree-poor & shellfish-rich?) became available on the continental shelves for littoral Homo: we evolved typical littoral semi-aquatic features: very large brains (DHA), very heavy skeletons (frequent shallow diving), long low flat skulls (id.), flattened femora (id.), external nose (semi-aquatic), hyoidal descent (sucking-swallowing rather than biting-chewing) etc. Late-Pleistocene (why?? better tools? fishing-hooks? nets? boats? harpoons?), early H.sapiens reduced diving, but waded-walked more & more in very shallow water or along the beach & riverside, farther above the water, hence skeletal gracilization, longer tibias, less iliac flaring, stronger basi-cranial flexion, very long & inferiorly-directed spinous processes T8-10 etc. Perhaps the reduction of diving "freed" the airways for human speech: all preadaptations were there already: duetting, voluntary breathing, suction, hyoidal descent, large brain (if preadaptive) & probably also vocal learning. Explained in more detail in google "two incredible logical mistakes 2020 verhaegen". _______ Van: <AAT@groups.io> namens Felipe Carvalho <felipebeltrao@...> Beantwoorden - Aan: <AAT@groups.io> Datum: dinsdag 31 maart 2020 23:54 Aan: "AAT@groups.io" <AAT@groups.io> Onderwerp: RES: RES: [AAT] Anthropogeny.net Will the AAT-group ignore the Bioko-hypothesis, just as paleoanthropologists ignore the AAT? Thanks for the answers! De: AAT@groups.io <AAT@groups.io> Em nome de Allan Krill Enviada em: terça-feira, 31 de março de 2020 05:30 Para: AAT@groups.io Assunto: Re: RES: [AAT] Anthropogeny.net Will the AAT-group ignore the Bioko-hypothesis, just as paleoanthropologists ignore the AAT? On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 02:44 PM, Felipe Carvalho wrote:
Thanks Felipe, for 3 good comments. Here are my thoughts on them. 1. The exact location is not "important", but only interesting. It is not important to actually know where your ancestors came from, but only interesting. 2. Homo sapiens came from a common ancestor with chimpanzees (about 6 million years ago), and chimpanzees and the chimpanzee-gorilla common ancestor (about 10 million years ago) have lived and evolved in the areas where chimpanzees and gorillas are found today. Bioko is in the middle of this area, where chimpanzees could have easily become isolated. The "keys" were probably dropped in this area, and not elsewhere in Africa or Asia, where chimpanzees and gorillas and their immediate ancestors have not lived and evolved. 3. The Bioko idea is just speculative. I agree. But it can potentially be proven, with DNA of retroviruses. |
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