I see no reason to think they didn't use tools in the water. More barriers to adaptation, of course, but perfectly understandable.

Humans however had tools to assist with aquatic living. Such as sticks hammer stones and floats. Sent from Mail for Windows

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 12:02 PM, alandarwinvanarsdale wrote: Humans have never been aquatic even to the level of seals.Even? Seals are an order of magnitude beyond our ancestors' evolution in water.

Humans have never been aquatic even to the level of seals. Humans could easily transition from marine to lacustrine to riparian to terrestrial or arboreal. Humans are a radiation of a primitive /

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 09:12 AM, Craig Hagstrom wrote: It takes an extremely lush and inviting terrestrial habitat to lure a thoroughly evolved aquatic back from the water. Dr Tobias liked my book,

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 01:15 AM, Allan Krill wrote: where humans could not have been isolated in an aquatic environment for millions of years. Isolation can be geographic or behavioral. My book

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 02:12 PM, Marc Verhaegen wrote: some people do revise their opinion, e.g. prof.Tobias. At the first day of the Ghent symposium in 1999 (organized by Mario Vaneechoutte), I was

Thank you, I was not sure what happened. Terry

Marc, You've mixed up two separate posts. TT: Supporters of a proposition do a poor job of finding its weak points. Creationists make a cottage industry

How do pigeons navigate? It's not the tiny iron balls in their ears. https://www.yahoo.com/gma/pigeons-navigate-not-tiny-iron-130815488.html "It's very strange to just have a ball of iron sitting in

Sorry, this was accidentally sent too early, here's the definite version. TT: Supporters of a proposition do a poor job of finding its weak points. Creationists make a cottage industry of picking

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 05:50 PM, terry turner wrote: TT: Supporters of a proposition do a poor job of finding its weak points. Creationists make a cottage industry of picking apart everything that

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 05:50 PM, terry turner wrote: Supporters of a proposition do a poor job of finding its weak points. Creationists make a cottage industry of picking apart everything that does

Nothing to apologize for. Supporters of a proposition do a poor job of finding its weak points. Creationists make a cottage industry of picking apart everything that does not sound biblical. One day

Different great apes splitting off from a tree leading up to humans is not at all supported by genetics. And is disputed by some morphologists well before the genetic evidence demonstrated this model

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 02:41 PM, Marc Verhaegen wrote: I'd think H.erectus had smaller ears than we have, hidden in their headhairs when diving.Marc, your drawing suggests that hair would make the

Orangutans have small ears like gorillas. This suggests that small ears are ancestral to great apes: the LCAs shown here at 13 and 8 Ma ago had small ears. Chimps, bonobos, and humans have large ears,

Gori;;a tends to live in cooler environments than chimps. Might be related in part to thermoregulation. Sent from Mail for Windows

Yes, Francesca, I've been asking this myself for years. I'd think H.erectus had smaller ears than we have, hidden in their headhairs when diving. But why do gorillas have much smaller ears than

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 04:49 AM, fceska_gr wrote: I guess smaller ears were ancestral to great apes. Then why would humans and chimps get larger ears?Most likely, smaller ears were ancestral to